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Christianity Etc › Re: How My Friend Found Himself In The Middle Of A Body-Parts Market In Lekki, Lagos by budaatum: 2:55am On Mar 25, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You are picking on an issue that has nothing to do with what I pointed out in my post. undecided

The sales of human parts is not in any way unique to Africa and the existence of human parts markets is not unique to Nigeria either. My concern remains those storytellers who come telling us stories of the existence of forbidden market areas, they seem privy to but are more concerned with telling us of their personal stories and encounters than they are pointing us to the location or at least looking to raise a mob to raid undecided

In this day and age, telling us that the authorities turn a blind eye to information received is bullsheet. If anyone knows where these sellers are, tag them make the whole country know and so we can find a way to shut these people down so those whose parts litter those markets are gotten justice for. undecided

I don tire to hear the Nigerian excuse for almost just about everything one can think of. If people are not willing to go beyond themselves to do something better than save their own lives, but instead feel they need to regale us with their tales of woes we can all, like eejits, cry "praise the Lord" one more time, I think they should bury their story where they got it and spare us the rubbish.
Me too, I tire!

The picture in the post the op claimed as corroborating evidence was also used in.Trade in human heads on the rise in Zimbabwe, but some people who have never been to Jankara market would be here claiming their friends saw, as if if it is true anyone with a brain would ever go to that market to buy or sell anything.
Christianity Etc › Pope Orders 10 Per Cent Pay Cuts For Cardinals by budaatum(op): 2:13am On Mar 25, 2021
Pope Francis has also ordered that priests will have their salaries reduced by three per cent

Pope Francis on Wednesday announced plans to cut the salaries of cardinals and priests, part of an ongoing effort by the pontiff to put the Holy See's finances in order.

Cardinals will see their salaries cut by 10 per cent as of April 1, while priests will have theirs reduced by three per cent, the pontiff wrote in an apostolic letter.

The salaries of department heads and secretaries of dicasteries will also be reduced by eight percent under the measure, which is designed to avoid the need for job cuts.

"An economically sustainable future today requires, among other decisions, the adoption of measures concerning staff salaries," read the notice.

It cited the deficit of the Holy See - the governing body of the Catholic church - in recent years that has been exacerbated by the coronavirus pandemic.

"Although the Holy See and the Vatican City State are adequately capitalised, it is necessary to ensure sustainability and a balance between income and expenditure in current economic and financial management," wrote the pope.

Information about salaries - which are known as "remuneration - is murky, but in 2014, the newspaper Il Messaggero reported that within the Vatican, bishops are given €5,000 (£4,300) each month, not including donations they receive destined for charitable purposes.

The Holy See expects a loss of almost €50m this year, it said last month, as fallout from the pandemic continues to weigh on the budget.

Donations from the faithful to the pope for charity work have fallen, while the €30m typically received from the Vatican museums each year has been cut by half following months of museum closures.

The salary cuts will not apply if the person concerned can show that they cannot meet their healthcare needs, or that of their relatives, said the letter.

Francis also implemented a two-year freeze on seniority pay increases for all employees except for lower-level lay workers.

Since becoming pope in 2013, Francis has sought to put the Holy See's finances in order, while bringing greater accountability and transparency to the Vatican.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/24/pope-orders-10-per-cent-pay-cuts-cardinals-vatican-braces-financial/
Christianity Etc › Re: A Message To Budaatum by budaatum: 1:55am On Mar 25, 2021
I advised that the next time you create one of these you mention me in the body of the op because merely mentioning in thread title does not flag up a mention.

Below is my response.

budaatum:
Let this be clear! I am not accusing you of not understanding. That is not an accusatory crime. I am accusing you of being lazy, and only laziness would make you mix up the two so!

With that hopefully clear, let the relationship be meaningless or stop being lazy and take responsibility to let the onus make you go back over our discussions to seek that which you do not understand so you can make the relationship meaningful, because my faith and love for you does not include dying for you Hell, nor does it include brainwashing you since unbrainwashed you is what I admire so much about you in the first place.

I have undying immense faith that if you use that very powerful computer brain in that skull of your mind you will understand. You just need to have faith in you and know the choice is entirely your's.
Christianity Etc › Re: . by budaatum: 1:48am On Mar 25, 2021
HellVictorinho:
I neither love nor hate your mother.
I don't love dogs.
I don't love ants.
Actually, you don't even select who or what to love.
You just get exposed to something that's lovely or someone that is lovable by chance.
It's a matter of an exposure that happens by chance.
So,what you love today might become what you hate tomorrow including your mother.
I can only hope you select to love yourself at least and don't leave that to chance. Though, considering this post of your's, I confess to having doubts.
Health › Re: Inferiority Complex Is A Mental Disorder by budaatum: 1:45am On Mar 25, 2021
HellVictorinho:
Budaatum!!!!!!!
Why not use your own brain to determine the importance of having a desire for somethinghuhhuhhuh
Why not use your own brain to ask about the welfare of Hellhuhhuh?
Is that how a political party should existhuh?
You introduced me to the party but you don't even bother to ask how I've been faring despite what I've stated about my background before.
Don't lazily accuse Hell of being lazy!!!!!!!
I've been doing a lot to survive!!!!!!!!
If you don't really care about my survival,then you're just #__##&;++$$$;+
What kind of human being are youhuh??
I've passed through Hell but you're telling me &$##&$$$-;
I am disappointed in you.
In fact,you have offended me.
Are you asking buda to be concerned about you who has not once asked buda for help? Would that not be like buda trying to be saviour and messiah and God to HellVictorinho who constantly claimed such things don't exist? Can you understand how that would be rather patronising of buda, especially considering you constantly make out like you know all the answers and claim to already have victory over hell?

Introducing you to the party does not mean I want to take responsibility for you Hell. Join the Nairaland Democratic Party and make the difference you want to see! The bit in bold kinda sorta means "stop being an irresponsible lazy fuq"!

If you have a "desire for something", take the advise I've been shoving down your throat which is "ask and knock and seek", instead of expecting some God to rain manna down on your very undeserving ass, because buda reads the words you write on Nairaland and not your mind.

P.s. Show me where you posted about your background because I can not recall ever seeing it.
Christianity Etc › Re: . by budaatum: 1:21am On Mar 25, 2021
HellVictorinho:
I didn't choose to have no reason to be more loving than an ant.
I also don't agree that your love is greater than that of an ant.
There's no philosopher or psychiatrist or psychologist that can determine how the love of any human being is greater than that of an ant.
Budaatum!!!!!!!!!!
Love is a feeling that is expressed by chance.
It cannot be measured
.
You either love me or you don't.
If you write a poem to demonstrate your love for me,it doesn't mean it's greater or less than that of a pig towards something else.
If you ask me to marry you,it doesn't mean it's less or greater than that of a snake towards something else.
What makes you think your love can be greater or less than that of a hen?
The books you have read were written by humans and I'm also a human though I'm Hell.
Should you discard what I'm saying because I have not written any book?
Where do you get this from? Hell, perhaps?

Is it by chance that you love your mother more than you love my mother?

Do you love a dog as much as you love your father?

Do you not love yourself more than you love ants?

Does buda not love you immense precisely because you write book on here!

Think now, Hell. Use those brain muscles so they don't atrophise, I'm begging you please.

How can love, that is highly selective, be "a feeling that is expressed by chance"?
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 1:08am On Mar 25, 2021
shadeyinka:
You seem blind tonight.
No Shadeyinka, I'm not blind. I'm just not pandering to your slimy dishonest way of seemingly attempting to "meet halfway" as you do often after many pages of posts where you've ignorantly made out you are right and everyone else is wrong instead of admitting you were wrong and ungraceful all along.

You might think you and your ways are not noticed but not only has Christ spat on mud and rubbed it in our eyes so we can see, we have bathed in the Pool of Siloam too and will advise you do the same so that your eyes may open and you too can see.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13214489_screenshot20210303100137_jpegf2e0ec6d1d391d89b3906a2ae3f9d6f4
Literature › Re: Where Can I Get This To Buy? by budaatum: 12:09am On Mar 25, 2021
JONSYN7154:
Good day Ladies and Gentlemen, please where can I get this novel to buy.? The palm wine drunkard by Amos Popoola?
[url=https://archive.org/download/ThePalmWineDrinkardAndMyLifeInTheBushOfGhostsAmosTutuola/The%20Palm-Wine%20Drinkard%20and%20My%20Life%20in%20the%20Bush%20of%20Ghosts%20-%20Amos%20Tutuola.pdf]Pdf direct download[/url]

Other formats here
https://archive.org/details/ThePalmWineDrinkardAndMyLifeInTheBushOfGhostsAmosTutuola
Romance › Re: I Discovered This About My Girlfriend’s Brothers After Visiting Her Family – Man by budaatum: 11:57pm On Mar 24, 2021
I hope the girlfriend sees this so she can dump him pretty quick because after she put her trust in him he sounds far too ignorant to not know that being gay does not make one a child molester.
Health › Re: Yes Am Depressed And It Doesn't Feel That Bad by budaatum: 11:47pm On Mar 24, 2021
Whoa! Can you imagine the maturity that is required to embrace depression as you seem to be doing?

Its like the knowing that the storm will end and the calm will follow, and is like a stage of rebirth.

buda humbly bows!
Travel › Re: Oyibo Woman Jumped On A Moving Bus In Lagos, Turn Conductor. by budaatum: 11:44pm On Mar 24, 2021
You can't try that in her country because even she can't try that in her country! She is in Rome and is simply behaving like a Roman, as you too would behave like a Roman in her country Rome.

And you see that bit about being there without papers? You should try being in Nigeria without papers. You might survive alright because you are black, but soon as you approach any form of authority, be they police or immigration or godogodo, you will pay handsomely for your lack of papers as they will all take you chop!
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Religion Really was a Scam , What Would You Do different.? by budaatum: 11:30pm On Mar 24, 2021
LordReed:
Obviously the one who tells them the truth will set them free. My dear buda but I have not your wisdom and still deploy crude tools.
What wisdom angry And why are your tools crude huh

Do you not know that the lamp of our body is our eyes, and that we must ensure they work or our whole being will be in the dark? If we do not know this about our eyes my Lord, then we are in no position to know to do the work to hone the use of the rest of our senses, and must at least know that unused talents are lost!

This is what we learn from the Use the Senses Scientist Eve who refused to believe the crap Adam tried to brainwash her mind with and so tested for herself if she would surely die on the day that she ate the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil only to find that it was good for gaining wisdom and for opening eyes so she can invent clothes and free herself and her Adam from slavery such that they became self employed, and to boot she did not surely die but went on to live for 900 or so years, which I'm sure you'd agree is pretty close to eternity at least for a human being, during which she populated the earth and her offspring are now on the way to Mars.

I tell you my Lord that if I were a God worshipper I'd bow down and worship the Scientist Use the Senses Eve, but being a learner, I guess I learn from her instead as you also must, for we must not be claimimg "no wisdom crude tools" in like 2 years time, or five or ten without being ashamed of ourselves for being lazy unevolved fuqs, especially considering those who died so we may learn to use our eyes to see.

Pool of Siloam time, says buda!
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 10:59pm On Mar 24, 2021
Thank God you are not God and that your opinion is irrelevant to the union of the op who is celebrating 7 years of wonderful marital bliss and will enjoy many many more.

shadeyinka:
Explain to who?
Probably you! LOL!!

1. A True Christian must never marry an atheist
2. If a Christian by any means is ALREADY married to an atheist, she must not divorce him. She must Love and Obey him.
3. Divorce is only permitted if the Atheist desires a separation
4. She must do her best to secure the Spiritual life of her children

Thank God for you. You are an exception that only a few has received
Health › Re: Inferiority Complex Is A Mental Disorder by budaatum: 10:54pm On Mar 24, 2021
HellVictorinho:
I want the APC/PDP to cease to exist.
You "want"? Lol

You sound like those who want manna to fall down from heaven into their kneeling mouth as if it is not written that "cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return".

Want, Hell. Just be prepared to work really hard for it and know that we are powerful wanting united than we are wanting alone.

P.s. Be prepared for me to quote that at you again because the entire chapter is very important but even my most highly esteemed Lord is being lazy or too afraid to use the brain in his head.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 10:30pm On Mar 24, 2021
shadeyinka:
Buda!
Buda!!

You are more precise than this!

Explain to ME??

Where did you read that?
So who are you asking "the Christian come out to EXPLAIN how God told her to marry an atheist", to?

To buda who already sees the Glory of the Lord at work in her and her family and in the fact that they are a lesson to you in this thread, or to you who is too blind to see what God is teaching you with the Christian's marriage to her atheist husband who is currently celebrating 7 years of glorious marriage and the upbringing of their wonderful daughter?
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Religion Really was a Scam , What Would You Do different.? by budaatum: 10:25pm On Mar 24, 2021
LordReed:
Ah but my dear buda the story does tell us how not to copy gods doesn't it? LoL
Depends how you understand it. To some it poses the question, Which of the two is the God, the liar or the one that told the truth? Which should then make one wonder what truth is?

All the same, it is the most important story in the entire book and the key to understanding everything else in it but most simply believe it instead of using their God given minds to ponder what it might mean.

Tell. Which of the two instructing beings is more representative of Jesus Christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 10:17pm On Mar 24, 2021
shadeyinka:
Then let the Christian come out to EXPLAIN how God told her to marry an atheist!
Explain to you? Why? In what way are you significant that "the Christian" who incidentally has not contributed a single word to this thread must come and explain to you the mission God has given her?

Are you God that she must explain herself to you?
Christianity Etc › Re: . by budaatum: 10:13pm On Mar 24, 2021
HellVictorinho:
There's no reason why Hell Victorinho should be more loving than ants.
And that's indeed your choice.

However much an ant may love, buda who has a bigger brain and who went to school and reads books and who lives hundreds of more days than an ant lives must definitely have lots of reasons and be more capable of more love than an ant and apparently much more than HellVictorinho.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 10:05pm On Mar 24, 2021
And you who can not learn but presumes to know the mind of God can not think that perhaps God has a plan for this union like God had for Hosea and Ezekiel?

Is that perhaps because God does not consider you important enough to reveal the plan to you I wonder, or is it just that the plan is so people like you can learn to love from an atheist?

shadeyinka:
Indeed the letters kills but it's the Spirit who gives life

Why did God ask Hosea to marry a harlot?
Hos 1:2:
"The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take to you a wife of prostitutions and children of prostitutions: for the land has committed great prostitution, departing from the LORD."

Because the Land had committed great prostitution!

Why is God asking Buda to marry an atheist?

God asked Ezekiel to cook with human excrement. Perhaps your conclusion is that Christians should cook with excrement
Ezek 4:12:
"And you shall eat it as barley cakes, and you shall bake it with dung that comes out of man, in their sight."


Buda, you have a lot of learning to do!
Christianity Etc › Re: . by budaatum: 9:47pm On Mar 24, 2021
HellVictorinho:
Are humans more loving than antshuhhuh
Is human HellVictorinho more loving than ants?
Health › Re: Inferiority Complex Is A Mental Disorder by budaatum: 8:43pm On Mar 24, 2021
HellVictorinho:
I never said there's no group of united politicians.
I'm only saying that there are different groups of politicians that engage in battles towards the death of some and the survival of others.
I'm sure you know there must be some sort of "united politicians" for "groups of politicians" to exist or they'd be ununited and so easily picked off by united us.
Christianity Etc › Re: . by budaatum: 8:30pm On Mar 24, 2021
HellVictorinho:
Stop this!!!!!!
Did humans show love to one another before the Bible was written or nothuhhuhhuh
Answer the question!!!!!!!!
No one says the Bible is responsible for people showing love to one another, Hell. You just need to step outside your human bubble to know that even goats that don't read can love one another.

The point is that education does increase the ability of humans to love one another much more widely than they otherwise would have, and religion is just one more facilitator of that education to love.

But perhaps you are considering single individual people. Go study the Roman Empire to understand my point. You were conquerable if you were not in it but once you became part of it you were 'loved'.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 7:28pm On Mar 24, 2021
LordReed:
Unfortunately for me my dear buda, I often have to go down to the bottom of the barrel in order to meet them at their level or else I find myself talking over their heads since they are so low down. LoL
I saw you going low for days on end recently and wondered why you'd let the devil occupy so much of your time.

One should not allow "them" to define terms, which is why I did this with you in mind.
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Religion Really was a Scam , What Would You Do different.? by budaatum: 6:58pm On Mar 24, 2021
Martinez39s:
No, I am not afraid. I just don't want to engage in any discussion related to theism and atheism. Anyway, how is life?
Life is always absolutely completely stonking beautiful. Just that I have annoyingly forgotten to eat because I lack your wisdom and spent my time doing this.

I convince myself it's philosophy, as in studying the truths of nature and being, or at least, putting in words the thoughts in my mind, and not just the basics of theism and atheism, but it is foolish me who now starves, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Principles! by budaatum(op):
Humans have fabricated religion

* Most religious texts are flawed and as fallible as the humans who wrote them. They must be criticised, challenged and, where appropriate, satirised or denounced.
And understood. Since they show our very own human development and evolution.

* Religious beliefs do not exist in isolation but are propagated from one person to another.
As in, religious beliefs are taught, which, if you think of it, is much better for human progress than each person in every generation, inventing the wheel from scratch.

* All religion is a lie since it is based on a false premise – God or gods exist. All believers are victims of this lie.
This is like claimimg a Superseded theory in science is a lie instead of understanding how it contributed to current understanding. The only error is in believing and not seeking further knowledge and understandings.

* Almost all atheists are agnostics, almost all agnostics are atheists.
Translation
Atheists don't know what they are talking about!

I must say that I do not agree with this statement since not all atheists are agnostics, but if it is true, should the agnostic atheists not just shut the fuq up and learn so they know instead of believing like theists do?

God or gods do not exist

* Concepts of gods are myths created by humans.

* There are not two separate realms (the natural and the supernatural), but one (the natural).

* All gods are myths and lies.
Gods do exist in the imagination of those in whom they are created! And myths are not lies but teaching tools like stories of the tortoise and the hare which are in the fiction realm and understood in the real realm.

Morality develops independently of religion
Morality actually begins with please and thank you, and unless you now want to claim you learnt please and thank you in isolation and did not have it propagated from one person to you, then I am glad you were religionised to say please and thank you or you just might lawlessly grab what you want!

* There is no divine moral authority.
I agree, there is no divine moral authority. Just that Time, an ancient deified quantity, has imposed morality on us and we have determined to religiously teach it through time.

* Although atheism is not in itself a source of morality, it frees morality from corruption by religion.
Love the words, "not in your itself".

Fact is, humans are the source of morality, as well as Gods and religion and how we perceive things and our corrupting nature, and blaming religion for corruption is like blaming a gun for killing.

* The religious inculcation and indoctrination of children corrupt their morality. Children are not born with any religious beliefs or affiliations; these are imposed.
No it does not! There are many corrupt people on Nairaland who's corruption can not be blamed on their religious indoctrinationquotefact, if religious indoctrination did what is claimed here, Nairaland would not have a single corrupt person on it nor a post about tits and sex since our religious indoctrination abhors these things! We definitely would not steal or covet or be redphills or pigs!

Religion simply makes us know what is right or wrong, but it is not responsible for our choice in either, and in the end we are what we are despite our religion and will steal and lie and cheat or love one another regardless of our religion or not, though religion does awaken our consciousness to our choice and its consequences.

And yes. Pickles!

Religion inhibits rational thought
Belief is what inhibits rational thought. One can be religious and still use one's brain!

There are in fact some on here whom if placed in the Garden of Eden, would, as a matter of course, only eat of the Fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil so their eyes may open and they be free instead of believing they will surely die on the day that they eat. We are not all unscientific, doh!

* Religion is based on irrationality, superstition and unsubstantiated beliefs.
This is based on a common error, but the truth is that Religion is not belief! Some just refuse to grow up.

* All Religions encourage and perpetuate prejudice, ignorance and intolerance.
Now, how can anyone who has read the "thou shalt nots" and "love your neighbours and your enemies moreso even after they have slapped your cheek 7 times 70 times", say the above unless one is looking at the religious instead of reading the religion's text oneself to learn about the lordists.

* Religion inhibits critical thinking, discourages scientific enquiry and restricts human progress.
Religion, as in, teaching, in general, does not "inhibits critical thinking, discourages scientific enquiry and restricts human progress". It is belief that does this, what Paul would call the thinking of a child and the reasoning like a child. The intention is that as you grow and your mind develops you begin to "critical thinking, scientific enquiry and progress", or do you not know the meaning of ask and see and knock with all your heart and soul and mind and being?

* Religions don’t generally deserve any respect.
Indeed religions do not deserve respect, for it is written, "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments".

Religions should simply be understood for what they are and teach.

* All Religions are scams and a con game.
So, if I teach you that only through learning to read will you have a productive life, or love one another, or say please and thank you, I am a con and scamming you?

* Don’t let ‘I’m offended by your words’ stop you from telling the truth about religion and don’t say ‘sorry’ when people are offended by your words.
Problem is, like religious people, your understanding is the truth and everyone else's is the untruth. How about we learn to disrespectfully disagree instead? Might we not learn and evolve?

Still, say what you will. buda will live.

* Don’t let religious laws (cf. pictures of prophets) limit your freedom of expression since they have no authority over the non-religious.
Now you are just being dishonest! When did pictures of prophets become laws outside France and Saudi Arabia. Do people on the street make the laws these days? Well, listen carefully!

Fuq your Gods!

Now live like buda lives.

* Religion is not just incorrect, it is malevolent, it ruins lives, splits families, and justifies hatred and bigotry – whilst claiming to be the source of morality. People die due to religion.
The further down we get, the more stupid this is becoming, lol. Did someone tell you boko haram is a religion?

Religion is simply the teaching method, and not the content of the religion, as in it's understanding, or misunderstanding, as the case often is. And religion does not kill, ignorance does the killing. Or show me a religion that does not have "Thou shalt not kill", and "love one another" so we can destroy it and its adherents together!

* Religion poisons everything. That is literally true when we consider the mind it infects. It makes good people do bad things, whilst thinking they are doing good, effectively turning good people into bad people, at least sometimes.

* Religion deserves to die.
Not true! Religion is not responsible for my stupidity and my ignorance just as medical training was not responsible for Harold Shipman.

If I shoot you dead with my shakabula, you will not blame my shakabula nor my Gods and you will not imprison my religion or my shakabula nor my Gods for my crime of murder!

Still, religion will indeed evolve, and your killing it is just a part of fulfiling the prophecy. For “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one dies and is born again one cannot see the kingdom of God.”

You just remember now, or shall I say, understand, that "The Kingdom of God is not "Lo here! or, lo there! Behold, the Kingdom of God is within you!".
Christianity Etc › Re: The Failure Of Atheism To Account For Existence by budaatum(op): 5:16pm On Mar 24, 2021
budaatum:
Absolutely. That is indeed the error in the op ed. It claims a cause is required for bringing a thing into existence. But gives God a caveat. Why stop there, the atheist would ask? What's wrong with giving the creator of God the caveat?

The post itself is claiming all things that exist are created. The universe exists so a creator must exist. It says a lot more besides but you'll have to read it to figure that out.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Questions All Atheists Must Answer... by budaatum(op): 5:15pm On Mar 24, 2021
budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMSS6mGQ6ZE

"It's not that ancient people told literary stores that we are now smart enough to take symbolically, but they told symbolical stories and we are dumb enough to take them literary."
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism. Define Please! by budaatum(op): 5:13pm On Mar 24, 2021
budaatum:
There is no argument that many people believe in whatever they like and are called atheist or call themselves atheist or believe they are atheists. The definition of atheist is the issue here. As in what is an atheist.

If I call myself god, I am deifying myself. Say, buda, you are mad, please, atheist or not.

If I claim there is a creator of the universe, but there is no god, intelligent people would snigger. Any argument on the issue would be about definitions, same as what Allah people have with Yahweh. They would not be claiming there is no god, but which god is the real god. The same difference is that between those who claim 'aliens are the creator' and 'Yahweh is the creator'. The atheist is claiming not only that Yahweh and the alien creator are not gods, but that they don't exist regardless of whether you call them gods or not.

An 'atheist' who acknowledges the existence of a creator but just doesn't believe it, hasn't quite figured out their belief yet. That's like believing the million pounds in my pocket is not there. If they claim it too strongly, I'm sure we wouldn't mind taking the million pounds off them. They refused to acknowledge they had it. They wouldn't miss it.

Claiming the atheist acknowledges the existence of a creator but just doesn't believe it, is probably worse. They have a million pounds. We claim they haven't, regardless of what they make think. Then we take it off them! I have found this akin to setting up of a straw man just so we may mug them. What follows such statements proves my point:

Atheism Unwise And Potentially Dangerous

Atheism And Terrorism; Annihilation in The Quest For Atheistic Domination

Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists.


Some things have been deified. The atheist is claiming those deified things (the stone, the wind, Jesus Christ, the holy spirit, gods) are not deities, and some of them (angels, devils, fairies, the holy spirit, gods) do not even exist. The atheist does not accept the deification of things, nor the existence of deities or fairies, or ghosts, extra terrestrials, spirits, elves, angels, etc. If they do claim to be atheists, and claim these things exist, please subject them to the same arguments they use to disprove the existence of god, and ask them why it does not disprove the existence of fairies etc.

It like when we ask those who claim everything is created, and by a creator, what created god! We hold them in contempt for their acrobatic dishonesty!
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Religion Really was a Scam , What Would You Do different.? by budaatum: 5:02pm On Mar 24, 2021
Martinez39s:
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Are you afraid to tell me what you understand 39s?
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion Is The Number Cause Of Poverty In Africa- Reverend Mwabazi by budaatum: 4:49pm On Mar 24, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I never said anything about evidence being based on perception. There is tons of data out there today showing that indeed Religion poses a real problem to society. undecided
Perception! Unless you don't know the meaning of the word.
Business › Re: Giant Container Ship Ran Aground, Blocking World's Busiest Shipping Lane(Pics) by budaatum: 4:36pm On Mar 24, 2021

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