sonmvayina: Lol....i might just be...i have been trying to save him from himself..
I think you think you are. I see it in how you instruct others on what they must say and how they must be and what they must believe and think, instead of understanding and accepting people for whom they are.
You may indeed satisfy yourself by claimimg one is unstable or can not decipher your comment just because one is not like you, but I am sure not everyone sees nor will agree with you, and you do not seem to have sufficient powers to create us in the image you desire.
You "stand on one place" if you must, and buda, and I'm certain Dtruthspeaker, will stand wherever we want. Just you consider that the "within sonmvayina" is not the "within of everyone else".
sonmvayina: Nah....no tell me say you no fit decipher my comment?
Stand on one place..wise old king solomon talks about a man with unstable mind in one of his proverbs...
The battle is within. I wonder if bread or any food can solve them..
sonmvayina: Your crase never cure finish....i think you should increase the dose.....or maybe you should change the prescription..either way see a doctor first...
You dont just make any sense at all....
It is with immense pleasure that though Dtruthspeaker and I hardly ever agree on anything, he makes total sense to me.
Dtruthspeaker: The Bible is a Documentary Evidence so it Speaks and Must Speak for itself! And the Proof of its contents is seen all around the world eg Egypt and Israel, the Major players in the Bible are there for all to see.
Thus, when you were in school you were told about the stories of the Tortoise and the Hare, why the Tortoise's shell is cracked, why the tortoise is bald, the good son vs the bad son, the good wife vs the bad wife, and other stories.etc
What was the point or gain of those stories? To guide our way so that we do not make the same errors or mistakes they did on one hand and to obtain the similar Goodnesses they obtained on the other hand.
So whether it is a History Book or a Scary Fictional Novel, the most important thing is whether you use the information contained therein to improve yourself (and others) or destroy yourself (and others) or you can ultimately discard it as when a teacher was teaching in front of the class.
For me the lessons in the Bible are as if I eat Life giving Fruits and Foods everyday, keeping me refreshed, strong, healthy and wealthy!
budaatum: The evidence for gods (not existence, mind), is the vast amount of written word that exists on the topic. It's probably insufficient for you if you expect physical material evidence that you can weigh and measure. The tortoise and the hare in Aesop Fables does not exist, yet we learn quite a lot from the fables about them. Philosophy too cannot be measured or weighed, yet no sane person would claim philosophy does not exist.
"Disbelief (and belief) is not at all in the business of searching or knowing". It is about making things up in ones head usually with very little attempt to understand before believing or disbelieving it, and is what I've called "intellectually lazy and unequivocally dishonest". An "intellectually robust and unequivocally honest" person would first seek an understanding of what is meant instead of discarding it as you are so swift to do. It is afterall in no way intellectually sound to reject (or accept) claims one does not understand. And asking 'Christians' and 'Muslims', who can only proclaim what they believe, is like asking random people in the street about calculus. But then, your question is about "exist", so you're probably asking the right people. You'd go elsewhere if you were seeking to understand.
As to straw, I'm relying on the fact that unlike your belief about me, you yourself "know the meaning of the words you use". If you did, you'd see this thread is all about strawmanning, as in stating the beliefs of some and equating it to the understanding of all then whacking it all down. Nowhere have I found you seeking to understand the obfuscated complex issue called gods which have existed even since humans have reflected.
And yes, "not good enough" for someone of your intellectual ability. Though I confess that's just a belief of mine.
Slynation: I am saddened you didn't even considered the scores of humans murdered by the Lioness as a deplorable act.....Maxi....!! Even in most countries,they do kill Lions hunting humans so it's good riddance....
To be honest with you? Na, I don't really care about the deplorable human beings who got killed especially if they are like most who've responded to me on this thread.
We humans are supposed to be top of the food chain with brains inside our heads and a duty to rule equitably over our environment, and not just kill the animals in it.
If we had sense, those lions will be managed as an asset that tourists will pay top dollar to come and see which will provide a living for those poor people around there. But no, we encroach on their habitat and decimate their food then we complain when they make you their dinner.
Is stupid not clearly as stupid does and very shortsighted?
Abini2012: You must sabi the book by force Seriously,my husband is in the academics and there is no day he does not lament about the educational sector in Nigeria.
The ease of study and access to materials is top notch..
There is a reciprocal scheme called SCONUL. The scheme covers most of the university libraries in the UK. It allows many university library users to borrow or use books and journals at other libraries which belong to the scheme. So a student of Heriot-Watt can borrow or use books from the library of University of Manchester and vice versa..
You now see what is meant when we say Nigeria is poor in knowledge.
BreconHills: Thanks for this Naptu. Sense is not common. Thought you might like this classical version of Redemption song by the amazing Kanneh- Mason family
Arkmanbuddy: Keep quiet, Ogbeni. Stop saying what you're ignorant of. Western nations kill man-eating wild animals, they just won't come out and say. No man-eating Wolf, Bear or Tiger is left in the wild. They kill them.
There was a man-eating Wolf in Alaska few years back. After it struck, more than 8 wolves were killed to deter them from striking again, it put fear into them.
MaxInDHouse: "Go and do likewise" was a statement from Jesus to a none believer not a Christian!
It is a message to everyone who reads it and is willing to learn instead of being [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+18%3A9-14&version=KJV]The Pharisee who stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican[/url]!
DCatt: Date may or may not have been shifted. Dates are with twist, if we know, it means the enemies know too and that's why there are delays and changes.
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shadeyinka: If the book of the Jews (the Old Testament) and the Book of the Christians (the Old Testament plus the New Testament) has been corrupted 1. Why do you still need it to validate your Prophet?
Which "your prophet"?
shadeyinka: 2. Did the Jews and the Christians conspire to corrupt their scriptures?
In some instances, yes. In some others, no. But that word "corrupt" is a bit too heavy. Edited, is more accurate.
shadeyinka: 3. Can you give a date (when) to the corruption?
Stop being lazy and go read the references. It gives dates for the editing.
shadeyinka: 4. Can you give the objective (why) of the corruption?
Stop being lazy and go read the references. It tells why it was edited.
shadeyinka: 5. Can you show us what was corrupted?
Stop being lazy and go read the references. It gives examples of the editing.
shadeyinka: How can you tell me that a $100 bill is fake without showing me the original? Does it make any sense to you?
No one is claiming the Bible is fake. And the fact you get rid of the originals does not make it fake. It's good to know it is not the original though, because you can at least go seeking instead of waiting lazily to be shown.
shadeyinka: Could it be that you simply want to give "a dog a bad name" to justify drowning it?
Could it be that you want to hold on to little you believe, so you cover your eyes so you may not see and know?
Not all! And it has definitely been corrupted since it is in no way in its original form it started out as.
The Torah is the result of a long process of editing (or redaction, as it is called by scholars). This means that there is no one date that one can be pointed to as the date of composition. Most scholars think that the final major redactions took place after 539 BCE when Cyrus the Great conquered the Neo-Babylonian Empire. https://member.ancient.eu/Torah/
The books of the Christian Bible were arranged in the sequence one finds them in today to tell the story of the creation of the world by a supreme deity, the fall of man from paradise, and humanity's redemption by the Son of God but these books were not written in that sequence nor would the original authors of the Old Testament works have had that particular story in mind. https://member.ancient.eu/bible/
..the Hebrew Bible did not begin as a single book; rather, it developed over time through the compilation of many Judean texts. The texts, though, were not always understood as divinely inspired, authoritative, holy texts; the role of Judean texts in religious expression developed between the 6th century BCE and 1st century CE. https://member.ancient.eu/article/1139/early-judaism/
shadeyinka: Before clearing out your misconceptions, let me remind you that contrary to the Qur'an, you Muslims claim that ALL the bible is CORRUPTED and therefore not to be Trusted.
Not all! And it has definitely been corrupted since it is in no way in its original form it started out as.
The Torah is the result of a long process of editing (or redaction, as it is called by scholars). This means that there is no one date that one can be pointed to as the date of composition. Most scholars think that the final major redactions took place after 539 BCE when Cyrus the Great conquered the Neo-Babylonian Empire. https://member.ancient.eu/Torah/
The books of the Christian Bible were arranged in the sequence one finds them in today to tell the story of the creation of the world by a supreme deity, the fall of man from paradise, and humanity's redemption by the Son of God but these books were not written in that sequence nor would the original authors of the Old Testament works have had that particular story in mind. https://member.ancient.eu/bible/
..the Hebrew Bible did not begin as a single book; rather, it developed over time through the compilation of many Judean texts. The texts, though, were not always understood as divinely inspired, authoritative, holy texts; the role of Judean texts in religious expression developed between the 6th century BCE and 1st century CE. https://member.ancient.eu/article/1139/early-judaism/
When did you also join emotional blackmailers who after running off points begin emotional talks?
Off point that [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A30-37&version=AMP]Jesus said "Go and do likewise" as a pagan no God worshipping Samaritan[/url], Max, or you just not willing to learn from Christ because JW is the your God?
I must admit I'm glad your emotions were touched by the Words of God.
aadoiza: The bottom line is, someone guilty of environmental pollution—not by accident, but by design, has got no moral right or obligation to counsel otherwise. That responsibility should be conferred on those who TRULY believe in environmental sanitation, not a hypocrite.
Someone may be guilty of environmental pollution by design. He may not have the moral right or obligation to counsel otherwise. The responsibility maybe should be conferred on those who TRULY believe in environmental sanitation, not a hypocrite. That will not stop intelligent individuals from listening to him and cleaning up their yard unless they are ignorant and want to dwell in filth and die of diseases.
But you of course you miss the point and seem to think those listening to the message are the hypocrites and what else you've called us here.
And even though you've now been shown the error of your reasoning, not "thank you for educating me you very wise and intelligent people", but a weak deflection of responsibility for your inability to reason right!
aadoiza: If you guys had been this forthcoming I doubt we'd have dragged it this long.
You will learn, aadozia. You will learn even if you cover your eyes so you can claim you were not taught. Because that is why we read such books. So those like you who can not read can be taught.