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aadoiza:
He called your master heidegger racist, deal with it.

You too lie, aadozia, lol, or you just can not read!

Martian:
Kant himself was notoriously racist. He treated race as a scientific category (which it is not), correlated it with the ability for abstract thought, and – theorising on the destiny of races in lectures to students – arranged them in a hierarchical order:

Heidegger was a member and supporter of the Nazi Party.[19][20] There is controversy as to the relationship between his philosophy and his Nazism.[21][22]

Hegel had some great ideas about non-Europeans too.

aadoiza:
Go back and read all his comments, he called your heidegger a racist.

Please stop lying. Especially when your lying can very easily be proven.

Though, even with evidence placed in front of you I bet you'd continue insisting you are right!

Martian never called Heidegger a racist!

aadoiza:
For your own eyes the coke in a bottle no dey touch the bottle. SHM

For your eyes, the atmosphere of the earth no dey touch the earth. Lol.

shadeyinka:
Buda, can you see how you deliberately redefine words to bend to other meanings!?

Except that the definition of atheist I use here is not my own but one that has been recognised and used by others too, as you will find if you google it. Some even use it here to describe those who do not believe as they do.

You will find that defining words in this subjective way is what someone refered to as a statistical odd, though that person allowed their beliefs to get in the way of taking it to the logical conclussion of realising it was a subjective instead.

shadeyinka:
Atheism is the Disbelief in any God/god!

Not quite. And now, I am abandoning the subjective way I speak of as intriduced by the person I mentioned above, and revert to an historical or etymological way, to be precise.

Today we define theist as a worshipper of God, and atheist as someone who does not worship or believe in that God.

In Socrates time, Theist meant, "a worshipper of the Gods of Athens".

Atheist meant, "a person who did not worship the Gods of Athens".

shadeyinka:
Are people who practice Judaism Atheists!?

A non-Judaist, using an original definition of the word could say so. And a Judaist could say so about a pagan. It is not the norm however.

shadeyinka:
Now Jesus has a disbelief in God too?

Listen to yourself o Buda. I don't know what you are getting at, this isn't the Buda I know!

But is the point not exactly that you believe you know buda when you obviously do not know buda at all (and I apologise for this last part), and then you lie to yourself that you know buda when you actually know that you are completely ignorant about buda and know not buda at all?

Yes, Shade. Jesus did not have the 'beliefs about God', note!, that were prevalent in his time, and was crucified for his, aJudaism if one follows the tradition as established in Athens for atheist.

Now, let me repeat myself as I am going to continue doing again and again. If you believe a single word I say then buda is satan and you and I will both go to hell, I for deceiving you, and you for believing instead of understanding, which is the only tool the devil has over us, to make us believe the crap we create inside our heads instead of letting the Holy Spirit be our Comforter.

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May we never emulate demons!

Ref: Disbelieve So You May Know!

aadoiza:
What is this again now? Did I tell you anywhere that I have read the book ni? The only time I ever read anything about your heidegger was in GST102. Must I read his books? Abi must I read the books you read.
Person dey talk on a general level, this one dey limit am to one book. Martiann said your guy was a known racist and you said it doesn't matter, and that his message is more important. I came in at this point to say the messenger is more important than his message.
Abeg I no fit dey repeat myself like a primary school pupil. I no get that time.

Martian did not say Heidegger was a known racist. I told Martian about Heidegger being a card carrying nazi, which Martian thanked me for informing him of.

But this proves my point, I guess. You do not read anything before you jump to false opinions about that which you know nothing about!

aadoiza:
Thank you for the 'yes'. How are they connectedly in contact?

How are the cocacola bottle and and the cocacola inside the cocacola bottle connected, aadozia!?!

Sorry, but if I need to answer that for you I would need to have my head checked for mental deficiencies that I know I definitely do not have.

I suggest you go and buy cocacola and study it and you will understand the relationship between the earth and its atmosphere. You just stare at the cococola in the bottle and the relationship will
eventually be revealed to you. I promise.

LordReed:
So anything you are born with is not a flaw?

And who told him one is born with the ignorance to not be able to heal oneself of the flaw of racism?

I wonder if he'll agree one is born with homosexuality too.

Dapcity007:
I love debt as a capitalist, it's a burden to the taxpayers whose taxes will be used by govt to service the interest on the national debts but as a capitalist debt gives me the opportunity to acquire [b]real and tangible assets like real estates, corporations and precious metals which will give steady cashflow income

Have you heard the expression "too big to fail".

It's when government use tax money to bail you out when your capitalist venture fails, and is like socialism for the rich and the wealthy like has been happening since 2007.

But I guess you do not mind that sort of socialism because the money goes into your own capitalist wealthy pocket and not into the pocket of the poor you tax to collect it.

Trust me when I say I would attack you dap, but I know you don't fully understand this enough to know the harm you do, but if you can refrain from that juvenile way you normally discuss, I will find the time to educate you. I promise.

You already have some credit for knowing about Mike Maloney, note.

shadeyinka:
Paul an Atheist!?

Is this a Lie or an error in comprehension?

FYI:
Paul was a zealous follower Judaism. He studied under Gamaliel
Acts 22:3:
"I am truly a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as you all are this day."

I agree, Paul was highly educated hence his understanding and articulation of the gospel of grace was greater than that of the other Apostles. This was complemented by his understanding of Judaism and his zeal for Christ!

You will not believe me and I do not want you to believe me, because the day that you believe buda is the day that you will surely die!

Yes, Shade, Paul was an atheist, as in, he did not believe what he was told about God. He was also a believer, as in he believed the lityle he had been told about God - and yes,note the contradiction of a believing atheist, which is what made him go about crucifying Christ.

Paul's atheism made him have to see for himself so that he stop believing and would know. But as we both know, no one has seen God, so seeing here means understand, which Paul clearly eventually did.

Gamaliel, in a cryptic dictum, compared his students to classes of fish as follows:

A ritually impure fish: one who has memorised everything by study, but has no understanding, and is the son of poor parents

A ritually pure fish: one who has learnt and understood everything, and is the son of rich parents

A fish from the Jordan River: one who has learnt everything, but doesn't know how to respond

A fish from the Mediterranean Sea: one who has learnt everything, and knows how to respond

You can imagine which fish Paul was.

Do you know Paul commissioned Luke to write the Gospel from fragments that made up Mark? He also wrote the majority of the New Testament thereby providing the theology of Christ. A lot of what we read Christ said, were 'Paul said', yet we know he never met Christ in body.

Yet, many do not know how much Greek philosophy he inserted in there, and if one does not know the rationality of Greek philosophy, one can't exactly know what he is referencing, can one? You'd have to read the history of the time to know how much Greek had pervaded Judaism, I guess to discover this for yourself.

I too had to travel to Damascus so I know Paul's journey, though, like Paul, humility makes one bow to Christ the Logos, which we translate to mean The Word, but which means a lot more than that including "discourse", which the Lord God Almighty in Its infinite Wisdom has brought us together to be doing here to God's Glory whether we believe, see, or understand it or not. We will be the best sort of fish in the end. Amen.

Now, I'm tagging this bit to the end to further confound you knowing there is absolutely no way you will not call me satan and ignore me. Jesus Christ, as far as the teachers of the time were concerned, was an atheist a la Socrates type. They both did not believe in the understanding of the Gods of their time and for it they were both killed. Yet both were eye openers just like that serpent and you and I. Perhaps we'll be going to hell too, like Christ did, before ascending into the Heavens to judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom. But for sure all those who consider what I say will be troubled and will be kicked out of their blissful existence in the Garden of Eden to find their own way in this harsh world where they will seek and they will knock and they will ask until the doors of Paradise are opened up to them in Christ's Mighty name, Amen.

You just ask yourself why it is written that "Whosoever understandeth him shall not perish but will live everlastingly", as if they had dared to enter into the East of the Garden of Eden and gotten past the Cherubims with a flaming sword which turned every way to keep the way of the Tree of Life and plucked of it and eaten!

shadeyinka:
As if only Atheists are spiritually dead!
SMH!

Some "church pastors" are even spiritually DEAD!

Yet they are obviously alive and scamming believers and buying jets. Hence, Woe, as Christ will say.

I am fighting worshipping you Shade, harshly, because you have shown an ability to understand. And when you fully see clearly and abandon your childish ways, greater things than have been done will you do, because whether you know it or not, you are God. Amen.

shadeyinka:
I agree that Essentially, you believe because you are unCERTAIN of the outcomes you believe in because you do not yet have sufficient knowledge BUT not because you are ignorant.

I also agree that Once you have acquired sufficient knowledge by testing your beliefs, you will stop believing because you will know.

BTW, you were the one who helped me to critically examine the difference between KNOWING and BELIEVING (in one of your old threads). I actually looked critically at the difference between FAITH, BELIEVING and KNOWING. You Buda helped me to formalize my thoughts on these three words.

Nonsense and goal shifting! You made out like debt was money creation which it clearly is not since you need to create more money to pay the debt you owe!

But if what you are now saying is true, what's the problem in creating more debt to fund either capitalism or socialism? Or do you not see any?

And which, capitalism or socialism, do you think government debt funds?

Dapcity007:
We share similar views with regards to govt manipulation of currencies to create national debts and totally abandoning gold and gold standard

My understanding is not upside down I have done deep research on these subject with many online and offline materials and videos including Maloney's series

What we discuss now is how it relates to Capitalism and Socialism or how we can create wealth for ourselves with these debt-fiat currency system

aadoiza:
You should be Loling at your own example. Doe the drink make contact with vessel?
WARNING ⚠
Anything but a yes or no answer for now will be stricken out.

Yes, of course the drink does make contact with the vessel, the same way the earth and its atmosphere are connectedly in contact, which is why I struck out the absurdity of disconnectivity you tagged on to your question.

aadoiza:
I might have read a book of his before, or I might have heard of his "not practising what he preaches" inclinations.

I have read the book not because the author does not practice what he preaches but I simply don't know about the book. My presupposition about the 'messenger /message' relative importance was based on the whole not an individual.

You have not read the book referred to in this thread, aadozia, we both know you haven't, and you never read any book by Heidegger, that is glaringly obvious!

Also, how can you "have read the book" and "simply don't know about the book" at the same time? Are you doing atheist dead found Christ live like buda wrote to have done, lol.

How can you claim, "My presupposition about the 'messenger /message' relative importance was based on the whole not an individual", when you have not read the book?

Is the person "the whole", as far as you are concerned?

shadeyinka:
Using your same logic

Why was it impossible that Adam and Eve became Spiritually Dead but physically alive)

Physical death is not the same as Spiritual death; are they?

Adam and Eve did not become atheists nor did God stop relating with them, so I can't exactly see how it could be similar.

Besides, is it not very easy for satan to claim God lied when Adam and Eve obviously went on to live long after they were supposed to die?

Twisting facts like you and many Bible readers do is simply an act of lying to oneself to believe what one wants to believe. You very well know you would be very ignorant if you refused to eat the fruits of knowledge you are here consuming everyday and night, so you can't obviously believe knowledge will kill you.

And if you think a little you will understand that seeking knowledge is how you follow Christ, just that you fail to realise that little simple fact, because in your head that will make Christ a serpent satan. To which I am certain you would say "God forbid" though logically evidently true.

Aadozia, do you recall saying African philosophy had no satan, but had a trickster instead? You might also see why one would read messages that might not be exactly true.

Shade, [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+9&version=KJV]hear Paul[/url], who was an atheist before he went to Damascus. He was like a Ph.d holder in his understanding of the Gospel of Christ so not exactly understood by those who would merely believe.

17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Jesus meant the same thing when he is written to have said:

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shadeyinka:
Why dishonesty remove the exact quote?

Buda, is this statement of yours below a lie? Dead men don't write, do they? Did Buda resurrect from the dead?

Literally, yes. Since buda obviously was alive as an atheist.

Metaphorically (or spiritually, as you would understand it), no. Since you believe in the resurrection of the dead.

Dapcity007:
Gold backed currencies will always be manipulated by govt same as current debt backed currencies that all nations around the world are using...

You have obviously not understood Mike Maloney, nor do you understand the difficulty of manipulating gold backed currencies, which is why all countries stopped backing their currency so they could easily manipulate their currency with debt!

I'd insist you consider that your understanding is upside down, but I know I'd be wasting my time.

aadoiza:
You need to get my point clearly before anything else. 8 would not shitt on a book I have not read but would do so if knew beforehand that the author is fond of not practicing what he preaches.

How can you know if "the author is fond of not practicing what he preaches" if you have not read the book he preached it in?

That after all is what you have done here, not read the book then claim the author is not practising what he wrote in his book that you never read!

shadeyinka:
Buda, is this statement of yours below a lie? Dead men don't write, do they? Did Buda resurrect from the dead?

Is that statement the same as the statement below?

budaatum:
I do not believe in Gods and satans I only read about in books!

I tell you. You will understand one day

You never mentioned what you contribute to the 60k that you want to manage!

Are you sure you are ready?

Dapcity007:
I'm in school and I know experts when I see one , renowned financial expert and educationalist Robert Kiyosaki recommended Mike Maloney for people to learn about central banking and monetary history

Watch episode 4 then you can make a definite conclusion,until then I suggest you remain open minded for new ideas

Mike Maloney is all about how bad debt is for a nation that prints its currency at a press, which is why it is a sale pitch for gold to hedge against the damage such debt does to a currency.

I am no more in school and have not been for a few decades now, and I watched the entire series before creating a thread for it, Dap, so I suggest you open your own mind and consider you do not have sufficient intellect to understand what you claim to have watched.

aadoiza:
How does the the earth drag the atmosphere along in its movement [s]when there are no connecting between the two[/s]?

Lol!

The same way a CocaCola bottle drags the CocaCola inside it along in its movement..

shadeyinka:
In other words, you claim God lied!
And
Satan was truthful!

I am claiming you lie, shadeyinka. I do not believe in Gods and satans I only read about in books!

aadoiza:
This is what I mean, if your idea or counsel appeals to me—but I don't know if you, the proponent, act contrary to it or not I might make use you of it if the need arises. However; if I know you act contrary to your counsel, I will shitt on you, shiit on your counsel, and seek it elsewhere.

But you will read that counsel or you will not be able to shitt, right?

Can you now see why one may read certain things?

Would it be intelligent to shitt on that which one is ignorant of, for instance, to denigrate a book one has not read even if one knows negative things about the author?

Can you consider that rather than shitt, one may read it to understand so one can better determine whether to shitt or embrace it or the person?

Can you also consider that not all messages are counsel though written to counsel, Hitler's Mein Kampf, being a clear example?

Can you give reasons for reading Hitler's Mein Kampf?

Dapcity007:
Watch on YouTube hidden secrets of money from renowned monetary historian , gold& silver expert Mike Maloney from episode 1 to 10 to gain full understanding, but for the main message on central banking watch only episode 4, , and see the cyclical monetary trends in history from Gold&silver, base metal coins(bronze),Gold standard back currencies ,debt standard backed currencies, mordern crypto currencies
For books concerning the subject read the creature of Jekyll island by G Edward Griffin

You seriously need to go to school if you think Mike Maloney is saying what you claim to understand.

budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU

The 10 videos in this series are in this playlist. They are worth viewing. But try to ignore the veiled sale pitch!

shadeyinka:
If you cannot prove what you consider as a lie with facts and it is by your perceived feelings and insinuations. You err big time.

You accuse a person of lying upon on a belief based on impression!? That is extremely bad!

I believe you know that a Lie is a deliberate presentation of untrue statement as Facts!

There are reasons why people lie, shade. One of them is to bog others down with rubbish so they do not progress. A clear example of this is, "on the day they eat they shall surely die", when the truth is they lived 800 years after they ate.

I do not need to bother to prove to you that you lie to yourself, shade, because you know the truth. And if you need evidence you know you just need to go and read over the numerous conversations you and I have had where I did accuse you of lying to see the evidence for yourself. For while I can spit on the ground and make some mud to rub in your eyes, buda shall not be wasting time bathing you in the Pool of Siloam so that you may see.

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From when I did respect you and hope would come again.

budaatum:
Most do not comprehend that they are gods, muttley, and everything shall be done to ensure they never do know least they reach out and pluck of the fruits of the tree of life and live forever as Christ appears to have done.

For the extent to which those referred to as Gen 3:5 God shall make sure this comprehension never happens, please read up on what was done to the one I claim knew. The current understanding is what is cooked up in the head by Gen 3:5, and the better more accurate version is being cooked in the head in John by he who came to free one from the Gen 3:5 cooking.

aadoiza:
I can't go about stamping the the "hypocrite" label on just about anyone or any advocate I come across. I have to know them or know of them to do that, and if I don’t but their ideas to appeal to me, I might just imbibe them.

"But their ideas to appeal to me", is exactly what many have been saying here all along!

But that is not the point I am raising here. Let us consider those that their ideas do not appeal to you, and that you don't need to stamp them. Though I do not share this view, and will stamp them just so they know they are stamped, and as you stamped buda a bully.

So, lets take buda, as our example. I think your general opinion of buda is negative, yet you still converse with buda. Why?

Dapcity007:
Money is a fiat currency note created by debt creation from Central banking so if you have any iota of intellectual curiosity and dignity you will go and research money creation and the federal reserve banking system rather than sticking to your socialistic dogma, you will receive truths about banking system that will make you open minded to capitalistic thinking

I suggest you watch YouTube video on currency creation or read books about the subject

Perhaps post some of the YouTube video on currency creation you've watched or books about the subject that you read, so we know what is inside your head.

LordReed:
The experiment is to demonstrate how inertial reference frames work not to demonstrate a ball earth.

If the video I linked is not enough for you to understand then even if I did the one I outlined you still won't.

Their whole point is to not see so that they may not understand and therefore be able to continue to believe the crap they have created in their heads.

Its why Jesus is Lord, my Lord. No optician demonstrates better how to heal them of their blindness. But they must go and wash in the Pool of Siloam themselves.

aadoiza:
Those emboldened lines just about do it for me.
If you as much as sense hypocrisy and dishonesty in the messenger, you seek your counsel elsewhere.

Do you realise you discuss with a lot of individuals on NL that you have determined are hypocrites and dishonest?

Why do you continue to read what they write and discuss with them?