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PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 7:05pm On Jan 03, 2013
spyder880: I was asking because I couldn't see the blocks on the list. Ask him again, how does he plan to do the concrete facial on the beam except if he raises the normal beam till after 12 coaches of blocks?


In all honesty, this might have been driven by my push to have all structural members of the building completed prior to having any blockwork done; the engineer did actually suggest including some blockwork at this point. Going by the drawing I uploaded earlier, the concrete fascia / parapet is attached to the columns / beams, am I missing something? Your advise on the order in which I should have the builder proceed will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks!

PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 11:37am On Jan 03, 2013

Actually, the block work is yet to be done. And yes, the quote is for columns, beams, and concrete fascia on the first floor only. I don't know if this is a good idea but the engineer plans to cast the beam and concrete fascia together. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to do the fascia separately, what do you think?
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot:
@Spyder

Pls can you help me scrutinize this quote? It's for First floor columns, beams and concrete fascia for a small duplex. Images of the first floor plan and the columns designed by the structural engineer are attached.

Thank you and God bless.


Materials (Pillars, Beams & Parapet)
1 Carpentry Works
Description Qty Unit price Amount
1 x 12 50 950 47,500.00
1 x 2 180 90 16,200.00
2 x 3 30 250 7,500.00
1/4 Plywood 20 1500 30,000.00
Nails 3 5000 15,000.00
Bamboo (used ones are available) -
Binding wire 1 5000 5,000.00
121,200.00 121,200.00
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2 Iron Works
Description Qty Unit price Amount
16mm (tons) 1.5 120000 180,000.00
12mm (tons) 0.5 120000 60,000.00
10mm (tons) 1 130000 130,000.00
370,000.00 370,000.00

3 Casting Works
Description Qty Unit price Amount
Granite (trips) 1.5 85000 127,500.00
Sharp sand (trips) 1.5 45000 67,500.00
Cement (bags) 80 1750 140,000.00
335,000.00 335,000.00
Total-> 826,200.00



LABOUR
1 Carpentry 280,000.00
2 Iron Bending 190,000.00
3 Bricklaying 210,000.00
4 Supervision 130,000.00
Total-> 810,000.00 810,000.00
Grand Total-> 1,636,200.00 [826,200.00 + 810,000.00]
PropertiesRe: Parapet Roofing Support Building In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 3:12am On Jan 01, 2013
spyder880: May I use this opportunity to thank all of you, my friends in the property section of this forum. You have been with us through thick and thin all through the year 2012. Your love, support and encouragement to us was so much that we can only say a big thank you.
We promise to keep doing what we have been doing, only that we are going to do more in the coming year to satisfy more clients and improve the system. We also say a big thank you to all our clients; past, present and future, that our relationship will continue to be cordial as usual.
Our wish to you is that the good lord will make all your dreams to come true this 2013, may good health, wealth, joy and prosperity be your portion all through 2013 and beyond.
May god bless you all.

Oga Spyder,

God's blessings will follow you and your family into the new year and beyond. You have have made the seemingly impossible possible for so many people, myself inclusive. People like me continue to bank on your honest advice and you continue to dish it out especially when you get absolutely nothing in return.

I pray that the Almighty rewards you immensely as you continue to help more Nigerians to become home owners and landlords.
PropertiesRe: From Paper To Brick: A Journal Of Construction Activities by bugmenot: 3:36pm On Dec 27, 2012
brabus: I think it’s obvious by now that updating this blog has become a little more difficult. In between balancing work, family and of course the project I’ve found little time to update it. Sincere apologies to those who come back looking for updates often. The project is actually on break now.

I'll update the cost of this project later on this thread. Meanwhile, we're doing some background works prior to finishing of the house now.

Watch this space as from next week as things begin to unfold. "From Paper to Brick: Rendering and Facade for our shell"
You ignored my questions on the roofing.
PropertiesRe: From Paper To Brick: A Journal Of Construction Activities by bugmenot: 8:14pm On Dec 25, 2012
Welldone Brabus! What's the roof material called and what drove your decision to use it here? How many sq feet is the roof and roughly how much will the entire roof cost? Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas!
PropertiesRe: Parapet Roofing Support Building In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 3:23pm On Dec 13, 2012
More grease, Mr. Spyder!

Roughly how much will the entire parapet cost? What's the total length?
PropertiesRe: Get Your C Of O Within 4months by bugmenot: 5:33pm On Dec 03, 2012
@ akronsolution

Thanks for your response. What's your email address? I'd like to discuss this further.
PropertiesRe: Get Your C Of O Within 4months by bugmenot: 5:17pm On Nov 30, 2012
Can you process Governor's Consent for a plot in Ajah, Ogombo specifically? What will it cost?
PropertiesRe: Current Prices Of Building Materials In Nigeria by bugmenot: 5:14pm On Nov 30, 2012
@ MolarMols

Except you have a lot of building knowledge or if it's a very small project, it makes a lot of sense to have a building engineer do the orchestration. Working with one in that locality is also a good idea. Where in Ogombo is your project? I just finished working on my foundation a few weeks back in that locality.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 3:07pm On Nov 29, 2012

Welldone Oga Spyder! If only you knew how many people draw their inspiration from you... Only God can reward you.

One question about the picture you labelled "the front, with part of the BQ" - Is the BQ in front of the main building?

PropertiesRe: Parapet Roofing Support Building In Ebonyi State by bugmenot:
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PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 2:07am On Nov 16, 2012
spyder880: This is the whole costs for doing the decking in this house.

1 SAND 7 12,000.00 84,000.00
2 GRAVEL 5 20,000.00 100,000.00
3 12MM RODS 310 1,600.00 496,000.00
4 6MM RODS 50 600.00 30,000.00
5 16MM RODS 20 3,000.00 60,000.00
6 CEMENT 130 1,850.00 240,500.00
7 1X12X12 PLANKS 325 900.00 292,500.00
8 2X3X12 POLINE 60 250.00 15,000.00
9 BAMBOO 200 250.00 50,000.00
10 BINDING WIRE 1 4,500.00 4,500.00
11 NAILS 15,900.00
12 CONDUIT WIRING AND MATERIALS 115,000.00
13 LABOUR FOR CARPENTERS 90,000.00
14 LABOUR FOR IRON WORKS 60,000.00
15 LABOUR FOR MIXING AND POURING 89,500.00
16 TRANSPORT AND LOADING/OFFLOADING 18,000.00
17 MANAGEMENT AND SUPERVISION 141,100.00

TOTAL N1,902,000.00

PREVIOUS TOTAL N2,795,700.00

TOTAL MONEY SPENT IN BUILDING THIS HOUSE TILL DECKINUG LEVEL IS N4,697,700.00
Very timely piece of information, oga Spyder. Greatly appreciated.
PropertiesRe: Buildng A Block Of 4 Flat As A Framed Structure. Pix, cost and challenges. by bugmenot: 1:45am On Nov 16, 2012
The casting of pillar and decking will NOT be done together, is it even possible o do both together? They are however being quoted for as one phase of the project.

Let me know if you think this is a bad idea. Thanks in advance.
PropertiesRe: Buildng A Block Of 4 Flat As A Framed Structure. Pix, cost and challenges. by bugmenot: 4:51pm On Nov 15, 2012
Aventures: @bugemont. Every other material is ok; but i av some doubt concerning rfct i think is on high side, but i cant be precisr on wout d structural drg. Also d labours are a bit high u can negotiate down to abt 70 percent of those charges wt d exception of supervision. Meanwhile, it is not advisable that the pillar shld be casted along wt d slabs. They shld be done seperately. Goodluck
Many thanks, my brother I knew I could count on your expert advise.

Do you mean we should break the work into two phases - one for the pillars and a second phase for the slab?
PropertiesRe: Buildng A Block Of 4 Flat As A Framed Structure. Pix, cost and challenges. by bugmenot: 4:04pm On Nov 15, 2012
@ Aventures,

Forgive me if I'm asking too many favours of you, please help me scrutinize this quote - it's for 1st floor slab (decking) and pillars for a 90 - 95 sq metres duplex at ajah. There are 19 pillars in total on the ground floor.



ITEMS QTY UNIT U – PRICE(N) AMOUNT N
Cement 170bgs Bags 1,750 297,500
Granite 3 Trips 85,000 255,000
Sharp sand 5 Trips 45,000 225,000
Wood
- 1 x 12 270 Pcs 850 229,500
- 2 x 3 150 Pcs 250 37,500
- Bamboo 130 Pcs 150
Nail
- 3inch nail 5 Bgs 5,000 25,000
- 2inch nails 3 Bgs 5, 15,000
- b/wire 4 Rds 5, 20,000
Iron rods
- 16mm 2.5 Tns 120,000 300,000
- 12 mm 3.5 Tns 120, 420,000
- 10 mm 1 Tns 130,000 130,000
- b/wire 6 Rods 5,000 30,000
Electrical works
- pipes & Accessories 80,000
Total 1,984,000

LABOUR
• Casting ( Pillars & decking) 200,000
• Carpentry 250,000
• Iron works 180,000
• Electrical 85,000
• Supervision 150,000
Total 865,000


I feel the labour charge is on the high side, but I'm only a layman; not sure about materials. Your opinion will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks!
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 3:05pm On Nov 15, 2012
Guys,

Please help me scrutinize this quote - it's for 1st floor slab (decking) and pillars for a 90 - 95 sq metres duplex at ajah. There are 19 pillars in total on the ground floor.



ITEMS QTY UNIT U – PRICE(N) AMOUNT N
Cement 170bgs Bags 1,750 297,500
Granite 3 Trips 85,000 255,000
Sharp sand 5 Trips 45,000 225,000
Wood
- 1 x 12 270 Pcs 850 229,500
- 2 x 3 150 Pcs 250 37,500
- Bamboo 130 Pcs 150
Nail
- 3inch nail 5 Bgs 5,000 25,000
- 2inch nails 3 Bgs 5, 15,000
- b/wire 4 Rds 5, 20,000
Iron rods
- 16mm 2.5 Tns 120,000 300,000
- 12 mm 3.5 Tns 120, 420,000
- 10 mm 1 Tns 130,000 130,000
- b/wire 6 Rods 5,000 30,000
Electrical works
- pipes & Accessories 80,000
Total 1,984,000

LABOUR
• Casting ( Pillars & decking) 200,000
• Carpentry 250,000
• Iron works 180,000
• Electrical 85,000
• Supervision 150,000
Total 865,000


I feel the labour charge is exorbitant, but I'm only a layman; not sure about materials. Your opinions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
PropertiesRe: Buildng A Block Of 4 Flat As A Framed Structure. Pix, cost and challenges. by bugmenot: 2:45pm On Nov 15, 2012
Aventures: sir going thru this tread will give an insight to the pros and cons of framed structure building. But let me just do a re-cap generally buildings in area such as lekki, Ajah and any area where the soil bearing capacity is low and building are prone to settlement are supposed to be built as framed structure. The procedure is simply to construct all the structural members first and ensure that all the members are rigidly connected together (the structural design would have specify hw this is to be done, the design would have also taken to consideration thst the block wall will only act as partitioning wall only and not part of strucctural member). Though this can also be achived by conventional method of building the block wall, cast the columns and beam one after the other but the effectiveness can not be like constructing the structural member first b4 the block wall.
Cost wise, there is little or no significant different if well managed. framed structure method is faster and much more safe stronger and better.
Many thanks, Aventures. Nothing beats expert opinion.
PropertiesRe: Buildng A Block Of 4 Flat As A Framed Structure. Pix, cost and challenges. by bugmenot: 8:36pm On Nov 14, 2012
Aventures, I continue to doff my hat for you o. Well done!

What are the pros and cons of doing a frame structure building? Cost, strength of building, expertise? No doubt either approach works as seen from the different threads on nairaland.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 8:32pm On Nov 14, 2012
spyder880: Its another way of doing it and I think Aventures or Segsy moore has built a house like that here in this property section?
You're right, I'll post the same question on their various threads.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 5:09pm On Nov 14, 2012
Oga Spyder, more grease to your elbows, it's no news that you've been a source of inspiration to many nairalanders myself inclusive.

Guys, not sure if there have been discussions around this in the past, but what are your thoughts on building a frame structure before doing the blockwork? What are the advantages and disadvantages of both approaches - cost, time, structural pros and cons?
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 2:34am On Sep 23, 2012
spyder880: The chaining effect
So this is the chaining I've been hearing about! One picture, one thousand words. Well done Oga Spyder!

Does it make sense to build a duplex like this without chaining?
AutosRe: CUSTOMS CLEARING AGENT ( ADEXFEM ) by bugmenot: 7:27pm On Sep 12, 2012
@adexfem

Great job you are doing here.

I need a 20ft container, any chances you would be able to source one for me? Email me, my address is infinity_ng AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk.
Business To BusinessRe: Containers For Sale. by bugmenot: 7:25pm On Sep 12, 2012
Do you still have 20ft containers for sale? Do you deliver?
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 6:20pm On Sep 08, 2012
Many thanks my man. It definitely suffices as an estimate.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 1:33am On Sep 08, 2012
@Spyder

Your boy is still waiting... Patiently.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 8:12pm On Sep 07, 2012
spyder880: Send me your email add.
infinity_ng AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 7:26pm On Sep 07, 2012
spyder880: Thank you for this question, in my negotiation with my clients, I make sure I demand for two things, one is a store room where I can pack materials like cement and other "dry" space materials. In this store will also be the tools and fittings needed for the job. The room should always be locked and the key will be with my trusted supervisor on site with constant checks by me. (You saw the number we wrote on the cement stock a few pages back, to enhance accountability)

Another thing I ask for is a room where my workers will be sleeping, I prefer this resting room to be very close to the store room, like next door so my men can keep an eye on the materials store.

In sites far from occupied homes, I will ask my client to construct or fund the construction of a two room wooden work house where the above activities are done right inside the site. (Like in the Owerri project) we are loosening the wood in the Owerri project to use in the building now as my men can sleep inside the down portion now.
Thanks for your prompt response, Spyder. Makes absolute sense. Can you give me a rough estimate of what it might cost to construct this two-room work house and possibly how long it takes? I think I might be needing one soon.
PropertiesRe: Building A 5 Bedroom Duplex In Ebonyi State by bugmenot: 3:30pm On Sep 07, 2012
Where do you guys store your materials on site? Especially in sparsely developed locations, and what do you do to ensure they are secured?
Technology MarketRe: A Very Clean Jst Arrived Iphone4s 16gig For Sale by bugmenot: 6:58pm On Sep 06, 2012
Is it factory unlocked? Or gevey Unlocked? What IOS version is it running?
PropertiesRe: Strong, Beautiful And Affordable Homes by bugmenot: 6:29pm On Aug 28, 2012

Well said, my brother - oyibo people truly do live in wooden houses. At the most they build the frame and slabs with concrete, and partition the space with wood. Most of their houses remain in existence beyond 100 years. I agree with people who say that we overbuild houses especially as they are not expected to exist forever. Excluding monuments like palaces, I don't know of any hundred year building in Nigeria that is still appreciated (style-wise at least). Even those are often rebuilt to keep up with evolving standards and designs. [s]If I found out that my landlord was renting a 100 year old building to me, I will move.[/s]

About your concerns on settlement, I would think that the structural engineer should account for those in his drawings. My understanding is that when they do not conduct the soil tests themselves, they "copy" what others do in that area. Is there any piece I'm missing?

The guy who suggested chaining did not see the structural drawing, I spoke with him before work was started on the drawing.
PropertiesRe: Reliable Supplier Of Building Materials Such As: Gravel, Granite, Cement &sands by bugmenot: 5:11pm On Aug 28, 2012
Still waiting for your response on the price list (see my last email)... Location: Ogombo.

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