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Is it that you cannot read or you are just in a hurry to insult your people? Did you not see that the amendment will require banks to demand TIN from prospective and existing individual bank account holders? Where is the lie?

Afamed:
Children of hate aka children of frustration with different lies. What has personal/individual account got to do with TIN?

What is in place to identify what kind of funds will be subject to taxation? Is there a distinction between individual accounts operated by young students and unemployed/underemployed persons?

pepperdemzombie:
What is the Nationality of your foolishness? It is clearly written up there, that she deleted what she wrote before. She said she doesn't want any man to lay claim on the child, hence a donor. She deleted and twist after backlash. Why bring what is not people's business to public domain?
Abeg, buy Refurbished Chinese sense

If you had small sense, you'd have seen that I'd responded to your quotes before your response that she deleted abi twisted what she said originally. She didn't delete or twist anything though; just added an extra detail for dumbos littering both the physical and virtual space!
Ini has said she used a donor, who is not a random person, but will be in no position to lay a claim on her child. Why does that hurt you so bad? Note that she still calls the donor just that, a donor! Just that he is not a random person but it doesn't make him any less a donor!

She was quiet and enjoying her child until amebo, oversabi, yeye people brought it to the public that she had a child for a married man, probably causing unnecessary tension in another couple's home. I am certain that is why she had to speak about what really was no one's business and she had been minding her business! Sometimes, stop looking for how to attack just because you are hidden by the anonymity of the crowd. Stop, think and analyze issues before you explode but if that is an onerous task as I can deduce from your posts, then just keep quiet.

pepperdemzombie:
How do you know the father of Linda's son? Were you there when they did it or he has come to claim? The boy's surname is Ikeji.

Sholaye Jeremi is the father of Linda Ikeji's son and that has been in the public domain but perhaps you are too slow to make necessary research or even keep abreast of happenings. She decided to give the boy her maiden name since she's not married to the father; doesn't make the father unknown.
https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2018/12/meet-my-son-jayceand-yes-sholaye-jeremi-is-his-dad.html

Ini first said she used a donor cos she doesn't want anybody to lay claim on the child. She deleted and twist after backlash.

Ini has not said anything different. She used a donor's sperm. The donor is not a random person and will play no role in the child's life. He remains a donor! Or is it English that is a challenge? A person who donates a thing is called a donor! His identity or the lack of it should not be and is not your business.

I thought you people laughed at FFK's impotence yesterday. Precious said she never had sex with FFK for 6 years cos he is impotent. Who owns sperm for IVF?

Precious has averred before a court that there were no sexual relations between her and FFK. Her 4 children were all conceived via artificial insemination. She did not say FFK didin't have sperm. Until proven otherwise, FFK is the father of her children.

In your dull, shallow and myopic attempt and categorizing who can use a donor's sperm because na you dey donate all, see your quote below especially the bold part yet you are still looking for owner of sperm for Precious's IVF procedure:

pepperdemzombie:
Use your head, nothing wrong with surrogacy, your husband/boyfriend/lover will be the donor. Funke Akindele, Kim Kardashian etc did it.
Sperm donor is for couples who want to remain together but the man is not fertile, and they want children. This is done as a cover up and so that the donor will not lay claim or blackmail in future. Single women who have no partner also do it but it boomerang in the long run when it comes to Will and inheritance.So, out of all the men in the East, no single man could collect money and cooperate?
She's even lucky it is normal bearing mother's maiden names over there. Tonto said same, see the public disgrace faced when burst.

In all your submissions, your major challenge is that you cannot fathom why a woman can or will carry a pregnancy without prick and pvussy copulation. There is a science called IVF and people have increasingly embraced it to fulfill their desires to procreate whether through direct artificial insemination or surrogacy. Stop looking for owner of sperm and quit trying to police a woman's agency over her body. Even if you do not know the father of these children and they are never disclosed, does it make the mothers and their children inferior? Have they stopped being human beings? What is your stake in their lives? Are you paying school fees hence the need to demand the identities of their fathers before you pay? Community police in the poteaux poteaux! Tueh! Rest peacefully on the matter o!

He is a donor because for the procedure of surrogacy, sperm must be donated. There is no copulation required.

jaxxy:
Offcourse that’s possible and not wrong, even married couples do ivf. I’m only asking since she’s calling him a donor.

Crystalom3:
we know she had no medical condition because she clearly stated her reasons.

Stop asking boring questions

Which brings us back to why you feel so entitled over her stated reasons which you qualified as selfish. How is it your concern?

But read well. She has said the sperm donor is not a random person. She has only decided not to disclose and that person will most likely not be playing the role of father in the child's life. What is the selfishness there that you have been going on and on about? Must she tell us who the father of her baby is? The child will be just fine, people have been mocked and shunned even for their physical appearance that they may have no control over so I believe your umbrage should be at a society that is happily 'advanced' with the latest gadgets and electronic acquisitions but will not also evolve towards learning to accept people simply for being fellow human beings without more!

Crystalom3:
lolz

I see your point but my calling a child a surrogate baby is not derogatory or meant to be demeaning.

When you have black and white, you don't call the black white in order to bring it to par with the white, you call it black to help differentiate and make your point.

My calling the child a surrogate baby is only in that aspect and not in any of the way you are seeking to narrate it.

Secondly, I'm not an expert in anything and I don't need to be an expert when I see selfishness.

Do you need to be an expert to warn AS and AS couple who chooses to marry and give birth? Do you need to be an expert to tell them that regardless of their reasons, that one of their child will suffer and live a life if misery because of their actions?

Of course they have their reasons for wanting to give birth, but that reason will not prevent the consequences.

As a loving parent, your first goal is to clear the way and make your child as safe and comfortable as possible. That's why people say 'they need a conducive and safe environments' for their kids.

Her choice of choosing surrogacy is not bad for her. She gets all her desires met. She will be happy and that's beautiful.

But What about the child, do you care about her own happiness? No matter how we try to polish it, she will still grow in a society that's hostile to her.

As a parent, wouldn't you rather have prevented that? Ini can weather the storm of 'what people will say' but why what about the child? And if peradventure, the child is strong and can weather the storm, it still begs to ask the question, why even put the child through it in the first place?

Personally, I don't give a cent about Ini Edo, my thoughts and speculations are only about the child and the effects this could have on her.

And yes, if Ini Edo shared her news online, she shouldn't expect people not to comment about it whether good or bad. You can't go and talk your business in the market square and turn around and say people are mocking you.

Have you considered that she may be unable to carry a pregnancy to full term? Do you know if she has a medical condition? Since there are other options to have a child, must she copulate beyond pleasure? What is this obsession with sexual intercourse?

jaxxy:
Why is she having a baby with a man she cannot couplate with??

Crystalom3:
our woke brethren will do social distancing with this question

You know she didn't just have the baby. It's just that some gossips somehow sniffed and decided to bring it to the public, insinuating that the child is for a married man, enough to even wreck his own marriage! Perhaps she felt the need to make a few clarifications so the hungry wolves baying for blood would be appeased but it's clearly not enough. As far as they cannot envision priick, pvssy and 9-month belle on Ini in the picture, everything is wrong! Tueh!
Aunty Surrogacy? Is that the new 'insult' in addition to 'ashawo and gold-digger'? Na wa!

Damian10:
You put your life wide open on air and then complaining when tongues be wagging. Leave your life off social space and worry not about peoples opinion aunty surrogacy

And why not a donor? Since she'd decided or is not able to personally carry the pregnancy for whatever reason, will you compel the surrogate to have sex with some stranger and what happens to Ini's eggs extracted and prepared for the purpose? As far as fertilization is expected to take place outside the female body, it must be a donor whether known to her or not and she is not under any obligation to disclose his identity!

jaxxy:
Why even a donor?

When you label a complete human as 'surrogate baby' you create the impression that a child produced from a surrogacy procedure is somehow less than and I'm sure you know that's 100% false and wrong! People are wired differently. Sometimes, one experience is enough to scar or make a lasting impression on a person for life and will mostly form a basis for decisions taken later in life and it is perfectly valid. When you categorically state that her reasons for opting for a surrogate to have a child are 'flimsy and selfish' I wonder whether you are an acclaimed expert on the subject including valid reasons for choices made!

Are you in her life? Do you know how her mind operates? Do you know what personal/family experiences she might have had or seen? Even the few public 'fighting marriages' with kids caught in the cross-fire might be enough for her to take her decision. She mustn't explain it all to the public and even more importantly, she owes no explanation or validation from you or any one out there. She is a Nollywood star who has taken a personal life decision at 39 and that should be enough for everyone.

Crystalom3:
Her reasons for wanting surrogate baby is so flimsy and selfish.

She talks as if it's every marriage that are fighting on public forum.

Besides, does she take her daughters feeling into the equation? It's all about herself in this case

Antoeni:
For Now Your Daughter is Fatherless Period.
Prove it Otherwise

To whom? You or fellow busybody Nigerians?

Even here she has clearly stated that the sperm donor is no random person, you are still 'offended'. Over what, I can't imagine! Who died and made you author of all things IVF and surrogacy and Ini Edo's choices? She is well within her rights to have no relationship with or never disclose the identity of the father of her child! Rest and let sense locate your location! See how you are even insulting and dragging Tonto Dike who was married to the father of her child and his identity is not hidden! What exactly is the colour of your problem?

pepperdemzombie:
You and your mama no know your papa abi? How can a sane person go online to tell people she used a random sperm donor to form her daughter without shame? Nothing wrong with surrogacy, a husband/boyfriend/lover is to be the donor. Who asked her before she talked?
Happy moherhood indeed Household wen dey boast of peace, na their bastard never grow. Later the confused one will be kneeling down about and crying in secret like Tonto begging fvck mates to stand as father.
Breeding bastards and naming them after their fathers, rubbish!

Try not to be too silly. There is no child without a mother and father. That one or the other parent isn't actively in the parenting picture for whatever reason/circumstance doesn't negate the existence of a father/mother. Father of Linda Ikeji's child is known; Ini has clearly mentioned that the sperm donor is no random person; even Precious whose kids are currently in their father's custody you say no papa. Is it a new strain of madness you are reacting to?

pepperdemzombie:
Linda pikin_no papa
Precious children_no papa
Ini Edo pikin_no papa.
Shey ipob children no dey get papa ni?

Implementing it or not is another kettle of fish. All Falana said is that the findings of the panel cannot and should not be arbitrarily challenged through a white paper. The ENDSARS panel is a quasi-judicial panel and its findings/recommendations if found to be inconsistent, should be challenged in a competent court of law with evidence, simple. The whitepaper as we know it today is not legally clothed with the power to overturn the final outcome/findings/recommendations of a duly established panel, simple.

descartes400:
How do you want to implement decision or recommendations of a panel whose conclusions were drawn from inconsistencies,false narratives and mere social media gossips . How do you implement recommendations from a panel who indicted it self of the following? The panel report cannot withstand legal challenges

The point is still flying way over your head. He has not said that whitepapers should not be implemented rather his point is that the formulation/content of a whitepaper should not differ from the decision or recommendations of a panel which the white paper is meant to convey in the first instance. It should not be used as a tool to discredit the decisions of a panel otherwise he is reminding all that the white paper is not a legal instrument contemplated by the law.

OderaOdesigo:
Stop using cunning lies to justify irresponsibility.

You cannot establish deaths by public opinion. It must be backed up by facts - not just stated facts but verifiable facts.

Falana has pushed in times past for implementation of White Papers when he woke up on the activist side of the bed.

Now that his reputation (and his son’s) are on the line, with the “massacre” lies outed and totally exposed, he’s switching the narrative and clutching at straws. He cannot approbate and reprobate at the same time.

Read this and ask yourself what the difference is between those White Papers and this one:

https://thenationonlineng.net/falana-sack-wogu-for-alleged-complicity-in-subsidy-fraud/

Unfortunately, those who practice fake activism always fail to realise that the internet never forgets. Anyone can easily dig into your past within 30 minutes to fault your irresponsible and unprincipled nature.

Falana used to be highly respected by most Nigerians who saw him as the heir apparent to Chief Gani Fawehinmi. We have been wrong - he is nothing like Gani. GANI only saw good or bad irrespective of who was on either side.

Falana, on the other hand, likes to trend - he also cannot simply admit that he’s wrong (at times) and step back from the wrongdoing. Rather, he will dig himself further and further into more unprincipled behaviours and outbursts in order to keep trying to justify very obvious errors of omission and commission.

It’s so sad seeing how low he has come.

I do not understand what you mean by adamant about the expulsion. Is it that she shouldn't have mentioned or said what led to it? It is the basis of her story that led to where she is today or am I missing something?

BRATISLAVA:
She still sounds adamant about the expulsion. Which is what is being pointed out. If she has truly changed is something that time will tell.

The trouble with such dubious acts is that there may be repentance for a while, but then once an opportunity to do it without repercussions turns up, the perp will love to revisit their crime. Reason why liars and cheats don't change much.

seunmsg:
Falana is fast becoming a quack lawyer and it’s so disgraceful. Every single repot of a judicial or administrative panel of inquiry has been subjected to a white paper since the era of colonial rule without anyone making an issue out of it. It got to the time of Endsars and they want to suddenly change the rule just to have their lies accepted. He should tell us the judicial pronouncement that made government white paper illegal or shut the fvck up.

The white paper is the official communication of the Lagos state government on the report of the panel and it would be gazetted as such. It is only the recommendations published in the gazette that will be implemented. The recommendations of a panel is not a court judgement that must be 100% accepted and implemented.

If anybody is not happy with the white paper, he should go to court and stop making noise on official media. Falana & son, Marcaroni and DJ switch can go and implement their own recommendations in their own room. The Lagos state government has published its white paper on the report and it is final.

Understand what he is saying, a white paper is a mere administrative tool for conveying the decision of a panel or government body. It cannot be used to vary or tamper with the actual decision it is meant to convey. A white paper committee cannot also stand in an appellate position to alter or refute what the recommendations of the panel set up by the authority constitutionally empowered to do so.

@the bold, unless the panel is set up to produce a pre-determined outcome, a panel constituting authority should ordinarily be bound by and implement the outcomes/recommendations of the panel it set up. Unfortunately, Nigeria is a country where laws/principles are applied based on the whims of the ruling bloc. The same way you are happy to say a quasi-judicial panel is not a court of law is the same way a white paper is not known to law and does not have the requisite power to counter or alter the recommendations of a properly constituted panel. All concerned persons should challenge what they will in a competent court of law but please hide your hypocrisy sometimes.
Besides, how many times does the Nigerian government even obey valid court pronouncements especially when not in its favour? You should be more concerned about the system and institutions that are not able to function freely rather keep enabling the truncation of same system due to political support and considerations.

sinkhole:
Why is it that when people comitts crime and other people became and express disappointment, the "criminal" always insinuates that people looked down on them and blame them, thereby sending them into a depression?
What of the people the "criminal" disappointed and sent into depression by their action?
I am asking the question because of what the poster said here:
When you get involved in a crime then you should expect mocking, insult and disappointment from people! You do not expect people to clap for you because you have committed a crime.

BRATISLAVA:
I thought I'm the only one that wondered at the point of Ms Doom in her write up. Is she trying to say she was a victim? She sounds like being expelled for cheating in her exams was unfair. Utterly shameless. That emphasizes the state of university students in Nigeria. They must feel that cheating us their born right.

Most Nigerians are just examination cheats. And Nigerians are surprised by the way they are running their country for themselves, by themselves.

Yes, it expected that people will be disappointed and express same; others will even mock or vilify the 'criminal'. However, it doesn't block or change the natural human reaction. No normal person likes to be disgraced, mocked or shamed and will definitely not want to lose respect or have people be disappointed in him/her. Don't forget that the 'criminal' mostly expects to get away with the 'crime' committed (except for sociopaths or those using the criminal conduct to seek attention) so when he/she gets caught, even though the reaction of others is expected, it's not fun and games for the 'criminal'. That is why they don't want to get caught in the first instance! Do not also forget that there are some circumstances and pressures that may lead a person into unwholesome conduct; though not to presume that this might have been her case.

It is not out of place to feel shame, even depression at the negative reaction but in the case of the op, she accepted that she got involved in the examination misconduct and deserved the punishment of expulsion so she only expressed how she felt most likely from a place of remorse and readiness to be/do better. In other words, she clearly accepted responsibility for her wrong unlike some who will never accept responsibility and start looking for whom to blame. In that case, the pull-him-down syndrome sets in; some even negatively use the situation to go into crime or refuse to re-trace their steps and be proactive in doing better.

The beauty again in her story is that she learnt from her mistake and went ahead to make a first class that she can hopefully, defend wherever she finds herself. She appears to be a strong person and probably had some good support base that stood up for her after the initial disappointment so that she didn't have to dwell too long on her past or whatever words/actions might have been flung her way in reaction to her past. Also, don't forget that some 'enemies/haters' may capitalize on the incident to carry out their evil thoughts and that may break a weaker person. Some in her position at the time might even attempt or actually commit suicide.

Bottom line, she is a success story and should be celebrated as such.

If na that one petrol stations get polo too o!

900warriorz:
Petrol attendant cashes out more than bank cleaners...Bank cleaners cleaners business get small swagss pass petrol attendants coz you go wear bank polo


My 2 Kobo

The court does not prosecute. Furthermore, the court cannot take a position on any matter i.e. declaring a person guilty or not without the prosecution (in this case the government) bringing such a person PROPERLY before the court. There are laid down procedures for arraigning a person and initiating a suit from filing of processes and if not correctly done, the court will not entertain such a matter least of all pronounce any decision. If the litigants - prosecution and defence do not do their homework, the court will simply throw out (strike out) the case.

For Kanu, if the prosecution (FG) successfully proves its case, the court will make its pronouncement of finding him guilty and sentence accordingly. Of course there is the right of appeal. On the other hand, if the defense team is able to rubbish the submissions of the FG, the court is bound to discharge and acquit him provided there is no political interference or deliberate ploy to keep him incarcerated as is usually the case once the FG (Buhari and minions) feels offended.

The current case of this man that has been detained for 11 months is an obvious ploy of the FG to keep him in perpetual detention just because they have the power to and institutions are dead as usual. Otherwise the court should have made a consequential order immediately it struck out the case to have him released from detention but asking his lawyer to file a formal application is another delay tactic....

JosephXavier:
So court cannot prosecute this Akuma for a post he made on twitter threatening the life of the president

Why then does people think that court can jail Nnamdi Kanu for posts he made on twitter and the programs he aired on Radio Biafra while in UK?

I am neutral on kanu's case but this issue gat me thinking logically

The height of wizardry (male) or witchcraft (female). You need deliverance and absolute repentance. Where you cannot do these then death is necessary so you won't be looking for how to knock others off just to reign supreme!

Icouldhave:
I just can't help myself, right since I was a little kid. I get jealous easily.

I want everything to be just me alone, I want to be the one to have money then give it out to people.

I hate it when people gives me money, it anolds me, makes me feel less.


Please how do I contain this attitude of mine.


Ps

I don't do bad.

Neither do I do evil.

I just want to be the one running everything in my family or any place I find myself.

I want to be the number one guy


I want to be the giver always

Too much anger in the land...deprivation, injustice, hardship and ultimately, bad governance has really done and continues to do a number on unfortunate Nigerians whose only offence is to be born and resident in Nigeria! May Nigeria never happen to sane ones who keep warning and drawing attention to the wicked governance in this country!

flokii:
Sanwo Olu is really falling hands.. prejudice is written all over the judicial panel report

BTW, won't the panel recommend any punishment for Dj sWITCH for flouting the curfew imposed by a sitting executive governor of Lagos state? of course an Igbo was appointed to chair the panel so they won't do anything to her.

Where is Anambra, Enugu, Delta ,PortHarcourt etc. report? when will Igbos call Nwafor and Peter Obi to face panel and give a report on the Akwuzu killings?

So to your little, myopic, black mind, the Chair of the Lagos ENDSARS Panel is Igbo? Do some basic, decent research and stop exposing your tribal bigotry that cannot even save your life! Shame on you!

My Lord, Honourable Justice Doris Tomilayo Okuwobi was born in Lagos on the 10th of January, 1955 to Mr. Thompson Gray and Mrs. Suzanna Gray.Her Lordship began her primary Education at the Ladi-Lak Institute Yaba, Lagos, where she obtained her First School Leaving Certificate in 1966 before moving to Holy Child College, Ikoyi, Lagos in 1967 – 1971 and then proceeded to Methodist Girls High School, Yaba, Lagos where she acquired her Higher Scho-ol Certificate (HSC) in 1973. She proceeded to the University of Logos, Akoko in 1973 as the pioneer set to be admitted to study Low, where she bagged her LLB (Hons) in 1976. In 1977 she obtained her BL (Barrister at Law) Certificate from Nigerian Law School, Lagos...Her Lordship was married to Prof. Babasola Okuwobi a Medical Practitioner. The Marriage is blessed with three Children.

https://dnllegalandstyle.com/2020/legal-luminary-profile-hon-justice-d-t-okuwobi-rtd/

Hmmmm, na wa o! Fishy stuff and it's absolutely smelly! Si murukwa anya ka azu!

How does one person allowing a chicken eat out of his plate translate to a whole tribe being powered by hate and bigotry? Is it madness that has struck around your area that is affecting you or what?

Parada:
This happens when a tribe is powered by hate n bigotry.

These demons are just deliberately throwing out sickeningly false narratives so that years down the line, with our notoriously short memories and inability to properly document and validate salient information/history, it is these bald-faced lies that will permeate the internet and become the available source of information. This is also why EFCC decided to mess around with Obi Cubana, not because they have anything concrete against him but just to sully his records so whenever he gets checked out, it would be that he had at some point been arrested/detained/investigated for money laundering or tax evasion as claimed.

The fact that some idiots who should know better continue to peddle the idea/sentiments that it is only when you are 'connected' to the national ruling party that you will be properly regarded, respected and accorded your dues as a citizen and a state or region in the supposed 'one Nigeria' is just sad and sickening. And it only thrives because this country and its handlers have deliberately refused to strengthen institutions and actually uphold the rule of law.
Joe Igbokwe is a silly oaf as usual so no surprise. After 'sacrificing his house at Nnewi, what has he gained?

Abi now, na their way. Sharply go and deny then when it becomes clear that they were stupid, you come dey hear bandits and hoodlum grammar and how they (bandit police) are on top of the situation and we should remain calm.

yemmight:
Don't worry my people. Them go undeny shortly.

Nigeria Police! Tufiakwa! It is until the bomb rains on your heads or the bullets pierce your skulls you will admit the truth and take remedial action! As dem don deny am dem no go beef up security there until a larger inferno that is audible even to the deaf will occur but as we know, they will still try to deny and muddy the water so that the 'excellent, unimpeachable' Buhari government is never blamed or required to take responsibility!

I see am tire o!

seunayantokun:
When oyinbo say Nigeria & co na jungle, we go kick. See am now? Wickedness plus ignorance come collabo dey finish country people. You see am now?

You feel like you have made some sense but you have actually exposed an unfortunate inability to grasp simple nuances of the English language and a general lack of comprehension. If you weren't in such an all-fired hurry to show your partisan leanings, you would have clearly seen that the major grouse of all those you quoted is the attempt by the Air force to initially deny and lie about the occurrence of the incident before admitting! Or do you mean to imply that such lack of honour and absolute incompetence at managing public communication is normal and happens to all military formations? Then you must be a joker!

KingOfAmebo:
"When you are all done ranting, please don't forget to grab a chilled bottle of snipper to cool off... What just happened to the poor civilians is called collateral damage in the rules of engagement.

So, you all should stop crying cuz it happens to all military formations across the world, nothing new". - Village People spokesperson.