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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:28pm On Mar 23, 2021
eph12:
Exactly! So Rooney or Bruno, who you going for?
Rooney is better clearly
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:58pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
Lyon reached the CL semi last season, Just like Leipzig did.
Not like he did not reach another Semis in his career again. Rio reached more semis with United. In 2007 Rio was not there versus Milan. Why didn't Vidic carry Brown and co pass Acmilan into the final?

Note: for me Vidic has a slight edge over Rio as a defender
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:45pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
Baba leave that thing Rio na soap wey partner another soap called Terry
Vidic na him dey carry am

Just like Sallah and Mane were carrying Liverpool attack, In some years people will wan join Firmino to it as if he was any good
Vidic carried United but cant cay Serbia
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:40pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
Baba leave that thing Rio na soap wey partner another soap called Terry
Vidic na him dey carry am

Just like Sallah and Mane were carrying Liverpool attack, In some years people will wan join Firmino to it as if he was any good
Someone asked you who carried him at leeds when he reached UCL semis with them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:38pm On Mar 23, 2021
eph12:
Same Scholes that was brought back in SAF last season? Like 4 years after this same 2008 that you said Scholes was already old?

And they aren't even in competition for same spot. They don't play same position or role
Bruno is more of Rooney role to be honest. Scholes was a CM while Bruno is an AM. In Fergie's 4-4-2 Bruno will be an SS
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:26pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
Terry won the CL in the stands, Any fan in the stadium contributed the same to winning as Terry.

You said the only tournament they both played together.. That is the point you cant crash out when you dont qualify.

Can Ole lose the CL quarter finals this season?
Rio missed 2004 Euros due to suspension, He missed 2010 wC due to injury. Terry has not emerged yet in 2002 when Rio patnered Campbell. And Rio was among the best defenders in 2002 WC. It was only in 2008 euro that they did not qualify. The mustake was from G.neville and Robinson. Not Rio and Terry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:15pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
Forget na Vidic be Rios helper of destiny. When he partnered a fellow useless defender like Terry, we saw their effect for England. To qualify for Euro 2008 even turn WAEC
Terry and Rio both won champions league, they were not the reason England did mot win matches. Moreover in 2010 WC due to injury Mathew Upson patnered Terry, the only tournament they both play together they went out in the quarter finals after a goaless 120 minutes. Infact they both did not concede any goal when playing together, they got 4 clean sheets in 5 in that world cup. The only match they concede versus sweden it was Campbell that played
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:10pm On Mar 23, 2021
Expert17:
Who carried Rio at Leeds and before Vidic joined?

You don start with this Rio agenda
Its clear Dayo has an agenda against Rio.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:09pm On Mar 23, 2021
Illimitable:
Terry replaced Drogba in the shootout.

It was well documented that Drogba had been pencilled down as the last taker in the first 5 takers.

Terry took his place cos he wanted all the glory and slipped.

Drogba took it in 11/12 in a similar circumstance and he ruined Neuer. VDS would have been sent back to Amsterdam from Moscow.
Its very clear you are not serious.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:07pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
make we no talk that one. Neville is one of the weak links in that United defence. All these ENglish players who were wack have a way of propping themselves up after retirement. People like Neville, Carragher and Rio were carried by more talented teammates

In Man Utd of 1999, You will pick 7 players and not even consider Neville.
Cole, Yorke, Keane, Scholes, Giggs Beckham Stam, Schmeichel were better he can only drag with Irwin, Butt, Johnsen, Solksjaer
Neville was good but i see what you mean, In 1999 team nearly Everybody in that team were better in thier positions than Neville was in his. Irwin was clearly the better of the fullbacks. Solskjaer and butt are not first team anyway.

Dayo Rio Ferdinand was a world class player forget his Englishness
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:03pm On Mar 23, 2021
Illimitable:
Drogba would have taken Terry’s penalty. grin

The last time he did at Allianz Arena, the mighty Bayern fell on their sword.

Similar outcome would have happened in Moscow.
Who told you that Drogba would have replaced Terry in the shootout line up?

Drogba missed his penalty in 2006 AFCON final against Egypt and Missed another one versus Zambia in 2012 Final, so what made you think he will score VDS if he had taken the penalty?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:58pm On Mar 23, 2021
Expert17:
Where will Bruno play in Fergie's 4-4-2?
Bruno my struggle in that 4-4-2 because his role might clash with that of Rooney leaving carrick Isolated. Except he will have to drop deeper to just in front of Carrick to orchestrate play. And he is already doing that now.
For me it will be.

VDS
BACK. FOUR
Carrick
Ronaldo Bruno. J.S.Park.
Rooney. Tevez
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:52pm On Mar 23, 2021
Illimitable:
He stops shots better than VDS ever did
Baba. Stop it. VDS is a better keeper than DDG, its not even a debate
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:51pm On Mar 23, 2021
Expert17:
Nice one!

Replace Hargreaves with Scholes.
Since bruno is there . I will prefer Park in a free role to disrupt opponent rhythm if it is a high profile match
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:48pm On Mar 23, 2021
Oasis007:
None of the current Players can make the starting XI.

Bench? De Gea has a chance. Bruno for O'shea and Shaw for Sylvester.
Oshea is not going out of that sub bench, he is one of the first name on that bench alongside Park. Lol. He can play anywhere in the field very comfortably even as a keeper. I remember his late winning goal at Anfield and his winner versus Arsenal in UCL 1st leg semis 2009.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:44pm On Mar 23, 2021
Oasis007:
grin


Alabi can't ever disappoint sha. Rashford over Tevez? Bruno over Giggs? You even prefer Pogba to Park..... LMFAO! Same Pogba Sir Alex would rather play ageing Scholes ahead of him?
Alabi no watch that team dont blame him. Rashford no fit even clean Tevez shoe, lol.
Bruno na my guy but Giggs and Scholes are not his level.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:43pm On Mar 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
He was suspended in the semis vs Arsenal...That suspension killed any chance we had because like Flamini in 2006 or thereabout, he was one of the best DM in world in that season...
Fletcher was on cheat mode that season. That ref gave him red card in error against Arsenal for what was a world class tackle. If VAR had be around that time it would have been overturned. Fergie had to start Anderson in the final. So sad
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:40pm On Mar 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
Park? Fergie will throw his shoes at you for making this comment...

Giggs over Bruno...Giggs was just too intelligent and his deliveries were most times spot on...

Tevez over Rashford for me sha.
E be like say this people no even watch that 2008 team well. For me nobody in this current team gets into that first XI.
Giggs and Scholes are better than Bruno and Pogba.
Tevez is better than all our attackers.

In this our current squad only Rashford, Pogba, DDG, Bruno and Shaw will make the bench.

There are still JSpark and Fletcher still waiting oo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:37pm On Mar 23, 2021
eph12:
This Bruno won't get in ahead of Scholes. Scholes was a midfield controller which suited that style we played back then. Most of our attacks were from the wings.
Bruno is not Scholes level na. Schole is clearly better. Leyqute was like the 2008 scholes is already old and not at his peak
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:31pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
Gary Neville is the weak link
Gary Neville is one of the best right backs in EPL history. Are you sure you watched Neville in his peak years?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:29pm On Mar 23, 2021
Expert17:
De gea of 17/18 cant start ahead of 07/08 ànd 08/09 VDS.

Please stop this comparison
Anybody that made that staement is just not aware of who VDS was.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:28pm On Mar 23, 2021
Illimitable:
De Gea of 17/18 was better than any goalkeeper United ever had in their history.

VDS can never win a golden glove with a defence unit consisting of Valencia, Jones, Smalling and Young.

VDS had the best defensive pair in Europe for 2 seasons at least.
Blasphemy. VDS is better than prime DDG and it is not even a debate.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:26pm On Mar 23, 2021
raumdeuter:
I disagree. Scholes is the best English player since Paul Gascoigne
Paul scholeso of 2008, it is debatable sha. If its prime Paul Scholes, Bruno is no where near
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:32am On Mar 23, 2021
Leyqute:
LooL.

What I meant was that Bruno has the best chance of getting into the starting lineup out of all the players we currently have.

Having said that, I think you’re viewing Scholes through blue tinted glasses.

In 2008, Scholes was 34 years o. His influence in the team was on the decline already although he does chip in good performances.

Assess him based on the form that he was in at that time, not his whole career.
Surely Bruno ahead of 2008 Scholes sha.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:46am On Mar 23, 2021
Leyqute:
I think Bruno has the best chance of getting in the starting XI. Rashford will at least make the bench (for Nani) and Shaw can also make the bench.

Don’t think Pogba will fit in, despite his skill and quality. Those midfielders, apart from having quality on the ball, work hard- especially without the ball. And when you throw in a slow and immobile player in their midst, it kills their rhythm and creates holes that opponents can exploit. If Pogba can match their energy his chances will improve.

De Gea can also make the bench.
Martial, no.
McTom, no.
Fred, mba.
Maguire, heck no.
Lindelof, lol.
AWB, *after a pause* nah.
The current Greenwood will be a squad player at least.
Lol. For me Bruno will only make the bench ahead of Fletcher. I dont see who he replaces there, he is competing with Rooney and Scholes in that XI, for me both are a notch higher than him.
For me Pogba doesn't get in either but good for the bench ahead of Anderson.
DDG bench.
Maguire might make the bench as he is a more natural CB than Brown and Oshea.
Martial will not make that bench ahead of Saha.
Fred lol. Lindelof lol.
For me AWB will not make the bench. Brown and Oshea are better than him in my books.
Greenwood will bee a squad member.
Rashford bench ahead of Nani (debatable though).

For me the combined team will be that that starting XI remain the same.

Subs: DDG, Bruno, JSPark, Pogba, Oshea, Brown, Maguire, Saha, Fletcher, Rashford/Nani.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:04am On Mar 23, 2021
This line up

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:57am On Mar 23, 2021
Leyqute:
What year are we talking about ?
This was the 2007-2009 squad that won 3 straight EPL titles and made 2 UCL finals winning 1
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:45am On Mar 23, 2021
Wbo among the current team starts for this team? Or can make the bench

SUBs: J.S park, Fletcher, Brown, Nani, Anderson, O'shea, Kuzcsaks and Silvestre.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:37am On Mar 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Registered February 22, 2021...What's your recognized moniker here? I want to be sure if it's really worth it...
You know who it is why wasting your time. Ignore such these monikers they are bot
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:30am On Mar 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Some folks are just slow, you spend time in someone's post history lifting his previous takes on issues without proper reference to the co text for which he held such position just in a bid to win an argument...SMH!

As for Ole, he is definitely out of his depths...Lanpard did more for Chelsea but when it was obvious he was headed for the rocks, he was quickly relieved of his duty but here, people won't stop defending Ole because he is a club legend...There's Ole 'the baby faced Assasin' and Ole, the manager, his Dan boys should know those of us criticizing him still adore him as a legend but as manager, he is simply clueless...
A seriuos club would gave sacked ole since
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:29am On Mar 22, 2021
KingAlabi:
I said personally I don't want lingard back, I didn't say he won't come back and prove doubters like me wrong, or did I?

You gave an instance of fa cup squad that played arsenal, Ole isn't a good enough manager for United, I have said this many times na, on that fa cup squad, should I drop the one he used to beat PSG in Paris?.
While we missed a number of our key players. The team we used against PSG were not farmers.
DDG --- best GK at that time in the league.
Shaw. --- £30m our player of the season that year.
Bailly -- £30m have played Europa semis with Villareal and won it with us.
Smalling -- EPL winner, Already experienced in UCL.
Lindelof--- 30m, experienced already in UCl.
Fred ---- already experienced in UCL. £55m.
Perriera.
Mctominay.
Rashford.
Young already experienced
Lukaku. £75m- elite striker.

Only Rashford, Perriera and Mctoms i can say are really young and inexperienced.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:18am On Mar 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Na why most folks no dey like drop their opinions here for fear that it will be dug out...I am certain if you dig deeper, you'd have found people who had a go at Rooney after a bad game but does it really mean he was a bad player? He'll no!

You guys just cling on to anything in a bid to win an argument...I am not a fan of Lingard but you have to admit he is an option as a squad player just the same way we had the likes of Oshea, Brown and others when Fergie was here...

There’s a match against Arsenal that we won 2 vs 0, I think it was an FA Cup game, go and look at the starting elven again and you'll understand what it really means to have a competent manager...
Dont mind them. They just go somewhere and mindlessly lift a comment in isolation for banter. Honestly I thought Alabi has at least a decent understanding until this morning.
For example, I once made a statement about me not " Maybe" noticing what Kroos does in the teams he played, i even said he could be very good, just that i did not notice, one brain dead urchin went and lift it to mean i said Kroos is a poor player.

For Alabi and his olesexual crew members, Ole must have 22 world class players to win a decent match. Fergie won things with players like Gibson, Cleverly, Richardson, Buttner etc activley being involved at the thick of things. Arsenal invincibles had Jeffers, Aladiere, Cygan etc

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