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raumdeuter:
Vidic was protecting his box and ensuring that Xavi did not come in. Rio doing his job and marking Messi, we would never have that goal. That shameful goal when a 5ft7 player scores a header while a giant like Rio opens his mouth

Messi even said it, he did not have a marker? why was Messi free in the box and having a free header? Because Rio was sleeping in the box in a CL final like Thiago Silva

Messi will later realize why Pep told him to attack Rio, Because Rio was useless who sleeps during games and only attaching to Vidic, Isolate Rio and he capitulates

Its a different thing if he dribbled Rio or if Rio contested the header and lost but he didnt even leave the ground.

Sleeping in a CL final

You see, even messi admitted that Ferdinand was part of a formidable defence

raumdeuter:
Rio looked and saw Messi in that gif

Raumdeuter he did not, like someone told you here, it was a split seconds pass from xavi. Before Rio could realise it Messi was through, even Beckenbauer or Baresi will not defend that.

Bombblacks:
Best team that was useless away from home. All their champions league trophy won was controversial. They were a good side not great or best.

As in eeh. Very gluke wins. Nobody ever mentions that team among the best. They are not even exciting

raumdeuter:
You can mention him doesnt mean he is one of the top 5 performers in a team of 11.

Just like you will mention Man utd of 2008, mention Wes Brown but know the impact of Ronaldo is not the same as Brown

Lol. You chose to select Brown in your lower rung of contributions, when he made a telling contribution to the UCL final that team won. This was the same metric you used in hyping Boateng.

Bombblacks:
There is nothing best about that barca side. Barcelona between '08-'12 lost against Shaktar, Wisla Krakow, Rubin Kazan, Inter, Arsenal and Chelsea and drew against Basel, Lyon, Chelsea (x3), Bayern, Inter, Rubin Kazan (x2), Stuttgart, Arsenal, Copenhagen, Madrid and Milan (x2) . Away from home they where also useless . 6 losses and 15 draws over a four year period.

Barca of 2008-2012 did not lose 3 times to chelsea, you may need to stretch your hands backwards to accommodate that number

raumdeuter:
Milan of 89-95 that was a 6yr span and had 2 managers Capello and Sacchi. It will be like spanning Barcelona from Rijakaard to Pep or 09-15(Pep to Enrique) which will mean 3 CL wins to include 2 trebles

If its by CL achievement, it will be difficult to look past Zidane three-peat team

Man United team 2007-2011 is better than that Madrid team that won fluke UCLs. Remember they won just 1 league title in those runs and i think finished 3rd at one point. They were just lucky like that 2012 chelsea. Bayern would have easily knocked them out in 2 occasions if not for atrocious officiating.
That VDS/Vidic/Rio/Ronaldo/Rooney inspired team was better than that madrid team. They won 3 consecutive EPL titles and was in 3 UCLs finals getting to the semis in the other 2 seasons.

That Arrigo Sachi Milan team was heavenly, they are way way better than the madrid team

raumdeuter:
No one will ever blame Vidic for Messis goal

Messi was Rios man, he watched till Messi scored didnt even jump

https://j.gifs.com/mOLP2A.gif

Thiago Silva was found wanting for Comans winner

O'shea will take the chunk of the blame their for me. Ferdinand dis not know that Messi was there. O'shea saw him clearly. But to be honest that's a very poor defending. Also Vidic is absolutely blameless for the goal

raumdeuter:
Top teams are difficult to play, Relegation teams are difficult to play, EVerything is difficult for Rio when he is not just pointing

Lmao. This guy eeeh.

Expert17:
Example: Man utd VS Barcelona 2007/2008, we played the game without Vidic.

Dayo who carried Rio in this game in the absence of Vidic? Even with a makeshift RB Hargreaves

raumdeuter:
Without Vidic beside him Rio is a basket, not even a new basket sef

Lol

Illimitable:
Folks living in the UK don’t get to see all the games. They watch maybe 5 PL games live per weekend if the TV is fair to them.

A large chunk of United games(3pm on Saturday) are never shown live on TV.

I live in the UK, i watch the 3pm games, you may not watch on TV but can easily stream

raumdeuter:
Doctor ko, Mechanic ni

If the world was fair, Rio should have a temple dedicated to Vidic in his house. And all those opata yarns he says on TV forming like say he sabi, he should give credit to Vidic. Neville Rio Carragher Otu players forming like correct

Just the way Boateng should worship Dante and Hummels for giving him a career

raumdeuter:
Rio without Vidic

Vidic was injured from Matchday 5-16
1 vs Liverpool
3 vs Spurs
2 vs Stoke
2 vs Chelsea
1 vs Arsenal
2 vs Villa
1 vs Norwich
1 vs QPR
3 vs Reading
2 vs Citeh
Matchday 19 3 vs Newcastle
Matchday 32 2 goals vs City
Matchday 35 1 vs Arsenal

Note I did not credit Rio for the goals conceded in the 5-5 vs Brom because he came in as a sub
Note: The teams in bold where Rio conceded 4 goals without Vidic ended up relegating

Summary
Rio without Vidic conceded 24 goals in 27 games
Vidic without Rio conceded 5 goals in 19 games

Do you want me to continue twisting the dagger?

Are you saying Rio was the reason all those plenty goals were conceded in those matches?

Illimitable:
Buy the season review DVD, all the goals would stick to your mind like the national anthem.

No need for season reviews. watch games with more analytic mind you will easily remember

Expert17:
He won't escape today.

I go handle am

You cant handle dayo expert

eph12:
Exactly! So Rooney or Bruno, who you going for?

Rooney is better clearly

raumdeuter:
Lyon reached the CL semi last season, Just like Leipzig did.

Not like he did not reach another Semis in his career again. Rio reached more semis with United. In 2007 Rio was not there versus Milan. Why didn't Vidic carry Brown and co pass Acmilan into the final?

Note: for me Vidic has a slight edge over Rio as a defender

raumdeuter:
Baba leave that thing Rio na soap wey partner another soap called Terry
Vidic na him dey carry am

Just like Sallah and Mane were carrying Liverpool attack, In some years people will wan join Firmino to it as if he was any good

Vidic carried United but cant cay Serbia

raumdeuter:
Baba leave that thing Rio na soap wey partner another soap called Terry
Vidic na him dey carry am

Just like Sallah and Mane were carrying Liverpool attack, In some years people will wan join Firmino to it as if he was any good

Someone asked you who carried him at leeds when he reached UCL semis with them.

eph12:
Same Scholes that was brought back in SAF last season? Like 4 years after this same 2008 that you said Scholes was already old?

And they aren't even in competition for same spot. They don't play same position or role

Bruno is more of Rooney role to be honest. Scholes was a CM while Bruno is an AM. In Fergie's 4-4-2 Bruno will be an SS

raumdeuter:
Terry won the CL in the stands, Any fan in the stadium contributed the same to winning as Terry.

You said the only tournament they both played together.. That is the point you cant crash out when you dont qualify.

Can Ole lose the CL quarter finals this season?

Rio missed 2004 Euros due to suspension, He missed 2010 wC due to injury. Terry has not emerged yet in 2002 when Rio patnered Campbell. And Rio was among the best defenders in 2002 WC. It was only in 2008 euro that they did not qualify. The mustake was from G.neville and Robinson. Not Rio and Terry

raumdeuter:
Forget na Vidic be Rios helper of destiny. When he partnered a fellow useless defender like Terry, we saw their effect for England. To qualify for Euro 2008 even turn WAEC

Terry and Rio both won champions league, they were not the reason England did mot win matches. Moreover in 2010 WC due to injury Mathew Upson patnered Terry, the only tournament they both play together they went out in the quarter finals after a goaless 120 minutes. Infact they both did not concede any goal when playing together, they got 4 clean sheets in 5 in that world cup. The only match they concede versus sweden it was Campbell that played

Expert17:
Who carried Rio at Leeds and before Vidic joined?

You don start with this Rio agenda

Its clear Dayo has an agenda against Rio.

Illimitable:
Terry replaced Drogba in the shootout.

It was well documented that Drogba had been pencilled down as the last taker in the first 5 takers.

Terry took his place cos he wanted all the glory and slipped.

Drogba took it in 11/12 in a similar circumstance and he ruined Neuer. VDS would have been sent back to Amsterdam from Moscow.

Its very clear you are not serious.

raumdeuter:
make we no talk that one. Neville is one of the weak links in that United defence. All these ENglish players who were wack have a way of propping themselves up after retirement. People like Neville, Carragher and Rio were carried by more talented teammates

In Man Utd of 1999, You will pick 7 players and not even consider Neville.
Cole, Yorke, Keane, Scholes, Giggs Beckham Stam, Schmeichel were better he can only drag with Irwin, Butt, Johnsen, Solksjaer

Neville was good but i see what you mean, In 1999 team nearly Everybody in that team were better in thier positions than Neville was in his. Irwin was clearly the better of the fullbacks. Solskjaer and butt are not first team anyway.

Dayo Rio Ferdinand was a world class player forget his Englishness

Illimitable:
Drogba would have taken Terry’s penalty.

The last time he did at Allianz Arena, the mighty Bayern fell on their sword.

Similar outcome would have happened in Moscow.

Who told you that Drogba would have replaced Terry in the shootout line up?

Drogba missed his penalty in 2006 AFCON final against Egypt and Missed another one versus Zambia in 2012 Final, so what made you think he will score VDS if he had taken the penalty?

Expert17:
Where will Bruno play in Fergie's 4-4-2?

Bruno my struggle in that 4-4-2 because his role might clash with that of Rooney leaving carrick Isolated. Except he will have to drop deeper to just in front of Carrick to orchestrate play. And he is already doing that now.
For me it will be.

VDS
BACK. FOUR
Carrick
Ronaldo Bruno. J.S.Park.
Rooney. Tevez

Illimitable:
He stops shots better than VDS ever did

Baba. Stop it. VDS is a better keeper than DDG, its not even a debate

Expert17:
Nice one!

Replace Hargreaves with Scholes.

Since bruno is there . I will prefer Park in a free role to disrupt opponent rhythm if it is a high profile match

Oasis007:
None of the current Players can make the starting XI.

Bench? De Gea has a chance. Bruno for O'shea and Shaw for Sylvester.

Oshea is not going out of that sub bench, he is one of the first name on that bench alongside Park. Lol. He can play anywhere in the field very comfortably even as a keeper. I remember his late winning goal at Anfield and his winner versus Arsenal in UCL 1st leg semis 2009.

Oasis007:



Alabi can't ever disappoint sha. Rashford over Tevez? Bruno over Giggs? You even prefer Pogba to Park..... LMFAO! Same Pogba Sir Alex would rather play ageing Scholes ahead of him?

Alabi no watch that team dont blame him. Rashford no fit even clean Tevez shoe, lol.
Bruno na my guy but Giggs and Scholes are not his level.

patrickmuf:
He was suspended in the semis vs Arsenal...That suspension killed any chance we had because like Flamini in 2006 or thereabout, he was one of the best DM in world in that season...

Fletcher was on cheat mode that season. That ref gave him red card in error against Arsenal for what was a world class tackle. If VAR had be around that time it would have been overturned. Fergie had to start Anderson in the final. So sad