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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:46am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:
Most definitely. I just want to be convinced that Reyna is head and shoulders above Sancho. Dazall.

Many times on this forum when people want to make their points they go extreme with their statements. Sancho is not worth 120m agreed, but as at the time CapitalCee made that Reyna statement the boy had like 2 goals and 3 assists.

There is nothing factual to prove that Reyna is head and shoulders above Sancho. Funny thing is that Sancho is a bit like the Bruno he so loves because both of them are stats machines. They somehow always find themselves involved in goals and assists.
Doc please try an understand me, I have no problem with Sancho joining us, my comment are there, however I had issues with the hype, Sancho is a quality player and its a little bit of a hyperbole to say Reyna is better considering the later is still too young and yet unproven. My worries come from the fact that buying Sancho at astronomical fees and too much hype might be gis achilles heels that will not help us at all, when we are still dealing with several expensive flops. He might succeed, but if he fails on the premises that it was going, it will be catastrophic. Sancho is not at the level of Mbappe for NOW, if we are buying Mbappe in the same scenario i wont be bothered because i know he is up to the fight, for Sancho i cant guarantee that. Please this has always been my issues with Sancho
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:27am On Feb 28, 2021
Ehen Chelshits fans has now flloded the thread in their numbers to show themselves
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:19am On Feb 28, 2021
Trevor012:
Keep shut you clown cheesy cheesy

Reyna is head and shoulders above Sancho cheesy cheesy
yes he was lucky to be among that all conquering team[ Facts

. I have not seen, may be their might be, I don't know, a match which Kroos dictated generally on his own and won it.

Key words: "May be" " he might be" "I dont Know".

Ivwoukd have allowed you to revel in your foolly but dont want you to decieve unsuspecting people who doesn't know how foolish you are.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:11am On Feb 28, 2021
Nobody has given me the credentials of the "Messi of Midfields" oooo. I am waiting
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:09am On Feb 28, 2021
Trevor012:
I repeat this guy is a cerififed clown cheesy cheesy cheesy
Seun ban this guy na grin
This guy is a dunce. Kroos is not in the class of Zidane, Roy Keane, Xavi, etc. So what is new there? I said i can't remember but i have remembered now. You must be a low mentality person i swear
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:06am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Statistically, we have a better attack and City so if I go by your logic, there's a better chance our strikers are likely to finish off chances compared to City...Let's deal on stats and stats only...
No it means we create more chances and quality ones for that matter, despite how Wasteful our strikers are. This is hugely due to Bruno. This is clear cut Bruno is creating more chances, and he even scores himself, KDB meanwhile has 1 open play goal all season, thats criminal
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:02am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:
How do we quantify "trouble causing for low blocks"? Is it from his 3 goals and 4 assists in the league all season that you concluded he is better?

Mata does not need space to operate, Rashford and Mbappe prefer to have space. Does not mean Mata is better than them. What you just described is a difference in styles not a difference in quality.
I have seen enough goals and assists from Sancho to know that he is not the Dan James you are making him out to be.

It is one thing to say he is not worth 120m (which i agree with by the way). It is another thing to try to buttress your argument by mentioning an untested teenager like Reyna who has been decent but not exactly set the world alight.
James is no where near the quality of Sancho, they are class apart, despite their game looking similar. However, i was looking at ut from the angle of a player that will benefit us.
In another note, Mbappe and Rashford likes space, but they can destroy low block teams in the tightest of spaces. The last goal Rashford scored is a typical example, Mbappe's first goal versus Barca and his goal versus Argentina were few goals i can remember from the top of my head where he utilised tight low block spaces to break teams. Sancho doesn't score those to be frank.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:55am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Replace KDB with Bruno...You seem to be judging KDB with higher standard than Bruno.
What higher standard? I though KDB is the Messi of Midfields and he is the best thing in midfield after sliced bread. If Bruno plays for city, he would win those EPL titles KDB won, Bruno has Won an international trophy with Portugal playing key roles, abd since he joined united he has produced better performances overall than anybody anywhere in the EPL. Bruno is 25, KDB is 29.

Now swap him with midfielders of his age. Kroos, Modric, Muller, even Pogba,.

Kroos has shown his quality on numerous occasions getting involved in key games eg vs Brazil in 2014 WC, winning league titles and UCL with crisp performances. I watched Madrid last league match and Kroos was running the show with Modric, Modric lead an unfancied Croatia to WC final, wining key huge games on his own. These are Midfielders who has time and time again has shown themselves to be dependable on numerous key occasions. Just mention 1 moment KDB has led his team deep into any competition of note. He has never been the best player in the league any title winning team, so why are you hyping him to high heavens?

I dont want to talk of Muller, or older heads like iniesta, Schweisteiger etc. If you want to hype KDB give me his credentials, he is 29 for Gods sake
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:41am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
We have scored more than City, are our strikers better?
We have scored more than City because we have the best creator-in-chief in the league, who has scored 22 goals and 13 assists in all competitions, he is overall clearly the best midfielder in league but you guys are doing everything in your power to denigrate him.

The simple reason City are above United is.

City= Pep, Stones, Dias.
United = Ole, Magwaya, Lindelof.

For Bruno to lead this team to score more goals despite deficiencies in his ream is testament of who is better
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:36am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:
Neither was i but the cost is even inconsequential. You are missing the point.

What are the signs that Reyna has shown you to confirm that he is HEAD AND SHOULDERS better than Sancho?
By scoring important goals ans assists and causing more troubles for low block oppositions, Unlike Sanchovwho needs acres of soace to operate., same with Werner at Leipzig. Moreover Reyna is just 18 you don't expect him to carry Dortmund.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:31am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
I said he won't score or assist as much...You're deliberately misquoting me...
On what evidence nwanne. Bruno has been dropping these numbers right from his Sporting days. If Gundogan and Sterling can score why won't Bruno? Somebody that was garnering G/As in droves pkaying with Rashford, Martial , Mctominay and Fred and James will suddenly stop scoring when he plays with Mahrez, Aguero, Sterling, Silva, Gundogan and Foden? Lol. Bruno is not the person that asked KDB to register just 1 open play goal all season
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:27am On Feb 28, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... This wan fit bring another
agenda argument entirely.
But without been sentimental, kdb is better than Bruno, but seeing some people for here who ready to bring out talks to prove otherwise, and I never get time for back and forth, na why I let am slide
I am not just basing it on stats. Tell me any season where KDB pulled up a majestic performance in the UCL to at least lead City to final or win it. Even in the EPL he has not been the best player in any title winning team. In the national team, apart from in 2014 WC where they where knocked out in the quarters he has consistently gone missing every other tournament with WALEs knocking them out in 2016. This is despite playing in the best teams both at club and NT for tge best part of his career. Nobody is able to dispute these important facts and evidences, but you want to elevate him to a statue he is not up to
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:20am On Feb 28, 2021
Trevor012:
I repeat they supposed ban this clown from posting here cheesy cheesy cheesy. Reyna is better than Sancho grin
You are an i.diot, 2014 world cup, they crashed out in quarter finals, Has he won anything of note for Belgium? The answer is no
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:19am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:
What are these signs Reyna is showing that makes him HEAD AND SHOULDERS better than Sancho. And forgive me for asking, but isn't Reyna also in this same Bundesliga that produced Mkhitaryan, Werner, Dembele and co?
I wasn't calling on Woodward to buy Reyna for 120m Euros.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:15am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
You are only saying this because away from scoring and assisting, Pep's system demands more from KDB...If KDB and Bruno swapped teams, I am certain Bruno won't score or assist more...

For emphasis, check Bruno stats when he plays for Portugal...
Lol. Bruno wont score or assist in Pep system? What is your evidence? Gundogan has been scoring for fun recently and bruno will not score ? Nna nawa for una oooo, why do you guys just want to downgrade Bruno at any given opportunity while hyping others even when numbers are danming.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:10am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:
Now this is blasphemy. I can name 10 midfielders better than KDB without stress. If push comes to shove and you vex me i might name 20.
Dont mind them. KDB is 29 tell me a Major trophy he has won as the Key player just the 2017/18 EPL title, with huge help from World class players like Kompany, Silva, Aguero and Fernandinho. KDB fan boys would soon tell us he is better than Pele
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:03am On Feb 28, 2021
Expert17:
I will pick KDB as the better CM, while Bruno as AM/SS
Thank you have made it clear now. KDB is nowhere near Bruno in terms of AM. The numbers are too overwhelming. This season at city Gundogan is the CM anyway, KDB is the attcking midfielder he is not up to scratch.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:01am On Feb 28, 2021
afrodoc2:
How far? Do you still think Gio Reyna is head and shoulders above Sancho?
Gii Reyna is only 18, he is still showing signs of being better than Sancho. Sancho's game at the Bundesliga doesnt mean he is any good, Mkhitaryan, Batshauyi, Werner, Havertz and Dembele destroyed Bundesliga like Sancho tge flopped the moment they left tgat league, Sancho only does well when you afford him acres of space, he is not getting that in the EPL. I will like us to get Sancho but not at astronomical fees because the potential of him failing or succeeding are still huge possibilities.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:54am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Spot one...Any other player not named Messi...

KDB is the midfield version of Messi, he does what you expect of him...
Since Messi burst out of the scene, he has consistently been among the goals and assists, carrying Barca to victories, scoring important goals, leading the team and urging them on, even when they change to below par managers. For more than a decade now messi has been consistent. What exactly has KDB done? City has won the EPL twice since he came, in one of them he was injured 3/4 of tge season while Aguero, Kompany, Fernandinho, D.Silva went about destroying teams, same thing this season, United were ahead of City when KDB got injured, he returned with his team 10 points ahead, thanks to Dias, Stone and Gundogan and tactical masterclass of Pep. Since 2015 that KDB joined city the following teams have eliminated City from UCL while parading a 1billion pound team, Monaco, Spurs, upcoming Liverpool that finished 4th and Lyon. In the national team he was there while WALES eliminated tgem from Euro 2016, the Semi finals that the reached in the last World Cup has everything to with the enterprise of Hazard and scoring strenght of Lukaku while your KDB goes missing.

DONT YOU EVER EQUATE KDB WITH MESSI. Messi has evidence, Stats, trophies, leadership skills and everything to show his ingenuity, where is KDB'S evidence? Until you come up with any matching evidence Bruno is a notch better than KDB
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:41am On Feb 28, 2021
Expert17:
By the end of this season Bruno would have won
every personal awards and records KDB has in EPL. (Goals in a season, assists, EPL best etc)

KDB is 4/5 years older, and their style of play is different,
Expert no mind them, they just jump on a fanciful bandwagon of most trolls to make statements without backing it up. Tell us how is KDB better than Bruno, they wont back it up with any valid point.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:38am On Feb 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
KDB is better than Bruno...Die this matter.
Big fat lie oga Patrick. On what metric particularly? How is KDB better? You guys just make blanket statement without backing it up with any illustrations or stats. Just joining the regurgitations from rival haters and trolls because it looks fanciful.

On what bases, facts, metric, stats or evidence is KDB better than Bruno?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:29pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
true for what you said

But you watched the compilation twitter clip of Bruno sent here right?
Isn't that what you wanted from Bruno? Is that the kind of passes the ozils and fabregas' are giving too.

In fact, the clip of Bruno and kdb are almost the same in terms of quality chances for teammates, so if you can laud kdb, I expect you to laud Bruno too.

Or is it a case of "a person is regarded everywhere else, except his own house" for you?[b] grin
Dont be deceived the person you are quoting is a chelsea fan that has questionable gender orientation. He/She is merely a troll, dont take it seriously.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:28pm On Feb 27, 2021
ChristineC:
assists in itself isn't an absolute statistic like goals scored or interceptions made.
chances created should be a better measure for attacking midfielders.
two attacking midfielders with comparable quality will more likely have varying assist output if one is behind Nistelrooy and the other is behind Eder.
God bless you
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:27pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
True, most of his passes are either intercepted or under/over hit today. Today he was unusually poor for his standard. AMs has one of the highest intercepted passes, so anytime I see someone slate Bruno for his passes, I'm surprised. Tho some might be reckless or intercepted, but the reward(s) are normally high

That guy that brought that Bruno's highlights for keypasses finish work. Nobody who will watch that is not supposed to slate Bruno for "blocking" attackers goals
you are correct
The only person not agreeing to this is the mud man
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:25pm On Feb 27, 2021
BARAJ92:
Really, so sterling, Aguero and Jesus don't miss chance. Clap for your self
Jesus and Aguero barely plays this season. KDB is playing more closer to the opposition box, infact against Chelsea he played as a false 9. Yet he was able to muster just 1 goal from open play all season, thats criminal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:22pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
Hmm...
Sure it's same clips we watched? grin grin
Are you knew to this thread? You're wasting your time with a troll whose identity is dodgy. I advice you ignore him
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:14pm On Feb 27, 2021
BARAJ92:
Team strategy and style of play is also a key factor, you don't expect a quality AM in an above average team who is the focal point of the team not to have high chance created than another one in a team that depends solely on team play without any focal point.

In reality, their is always a reason to discard any statistics being use to compare players. Many teams will prefer an attacking player that both score goals and assists.
Bruno is not the focal point of our attack he is just too good that you think so, he was also creating huge number of chances in Portugal NT. For Bruno to be dusting KDB in goal and assist metrics despite playing for a more inferior team should tell you something. There is absolutely no Midfielder's metric KDB is better than Bruno.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:51pm On Feb 27, 2021
Android17:
KDB has 3 goals and 16 assists in 26 appearances this season. Bruno has 22 goals and 13 assists in 38 appearances. You cherry picked the stats. Nobody who was not trolling has called Bruno "rubbish". He is most likely going to be voted EPL player of the year. But because Modric won ballon d'or in 2018 (Lewandowski in 2020 essentially) did not mean he is better than Messi and Ronaldo. Awards are determined over a limited time but greatness is determined over an extended period of time.
So in other words he has KDB has 19 goal contribution this season with 1 open play goal all season. While Bruno 35 goals contribution. KDB assist most are even a testament of the system he plays in and how good his team mates are.

Stop behaving as if Bruno started dropping his astronomical numbers just this season. Right from his time at sporting his G/A numbers is what KDB wil ever dream of. He immediately came into the league and hit the ground running, no player has contributed more than him in terms of goals contributions since he came.

Since he came to United he has been better than your KDB in terms of Chances Created and Goals/Assists so what do you want him to do? If KDB has Rashford, Martial and James as his forward men his Assist number will clearly diminish, For the past 3 seasons or so that Bruno burst into the scene he has produced better performances than KDB despite playing in more inferior teams.

Let me ask you this question, WHAT METRIC AS A MIDFIELDER IS KDB better than Bruno?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:22pm On Feb 27, 2021
KDB has one goal from open play this season so far with the same number of assists as Bruno. But but but but... Bruno is a rubbish player while KDB is the Lord and Savior.

One has Gundogan, Foden, Mahrez, Bernado and silva exchanging passes with and carrying the team in his absence, he also has Dias, Laporte and Stones protecting him from behind giving him and others licence to operate, not forgetting Cancelo who is a master artist to join in attack. One also has a world class manager in Pep.
Result: 3 goals(2 penalties) 11 assists.

The other has Fred, Matic, Mctominay and James. With only Pogba (who has been injured) the only quality player to play in midfield with, he also has Lindelof and Magwaya always causing panic in defence, he also has lumbering AWB joining the attack. He feeds Lazy Martial, Wasteful Rashford and old Cavani. One also has Ole as a manager.

Result: 22goals 12 assists.

Any body who compares Bruno Miguel Borges Fernandes with KDB or any player for that matter this season in EPL is simply a hater, a Bruno agendist, a troll and enemy of progress.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:09pm On Feb 27, 2021
RRWraith:
A compilation of bruno's sideways passing.

https://twitter.com/ShameIessFC/status/1365369999876055041?s=19[/quote]To god the thunder wey go fire Rashford no be here oo. Bruno would have been counting 20+ assists now in EPL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:07pm On Feb 27, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... Not saying what you said is wrong tho, but if someone also watch de bruyne today too(the way you watched lingard), the person will think that kdb is one overhyped motherfv**ker. Aside his sumptuous assist, most of his plays and passes was so damn poor and offpoint
I thought I was the only person that noticed this. I watched the game because of Lord Lingard. I discovered that while KDB is good, whenever he tries to create any reasonable chances he loses possession or his passes will not meet the target, same thing Bruno's haters accuse him of. The thing is you can't create many chances for your team without these stats, because defenders and DM are looking to intercept your game
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:02am On Feb 26, 2021
afrodoc2:
After 15 minutes you are sure he is not ready and we should go and spend 40-50 million on another player that may or may not be better than what we have got already.

Raphinha scored 5 goals in 22 games in the French league last season. 80% of these players that are looking like ballers under Bielsa might be jeun jeun level.

We should give Amad more minutes this season to show if he is the solution and if at the end we still think we need a RW i would prefer going back to old faithful Sancho.
Doc the old real truth, is that the team is performing lower than the sum of its parts. Ole's tactical know how is way off the required standard. Players are using individual brilliance to eke out results in most cases, one can easily notice it with the constant hush and uncoordinated passes and exchanges.

Players like Amad and other youngsters even Greenwood will struggle in this set up.

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