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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:16pm On Dec 09, 2017
elrony:
Or how "Murray beats Lukaku hands down " even when stats show otherwise

grin cheesygrin grin
Or how Murray score In the MAN united vs Burnley match.
Or even how a Brighton striker scored in a match United won one nil
elampiro we are waiting for answers oo.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:37pm On Dec 08, 2017
elampiro:
Stats are facts.

If those stats favoured Lukaku, you guys would have applauded.

They said Lukaku is not doing badly in terms of goals. I brought stats to show he is far behind other strikers who have less minutes, like Kane.

Then they said he is doing well compared to many others. I brought stats on goals per 90 minutes. Lukaku is number 30

They said because he played at half line, I brought stats about smaller strikers who play at half against big teams and score.

They shifted to he defence. I wonder when defence has been the duty of a striker. Again, a rough look at matches show he doesn’t depend, except clearances which even Ibrahimovic did better for us last season.

Lastly, it has been revealed that Lukaku can only have high pass accuracy in his own half when compared to other strikers. Any wonder the likes of Mkhitaryan have been poor? Their front man cannot play fluently with them.
Ok sorry sir. You don WIN, no vex na small pikin de worry us.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:20pm On Dec 08, 2017
elrony:
How many goals and assists does Murray have, and when did Lukaku play against Burnley inna United shirt?

No epistles please.
The Dwight Gayle of Newcastle he is talking about, the goal he scored at old Trafford is first of the season, as well as first in a very very long time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by CapitalCee(m): 4:17pm On Dec 08, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
Please guys, how true is it that Messi had scored five against brasil of which four of the goal was free kick? CapitalCee are you aware of this?
Honestly sir I don't have an accurate info on this, but I remember one time he scored a hatrick versus Brazil, at least 2 of the goals were not free kicks.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:11pm On Dec 08, 2017
raumdeuter:
They probably mean he isnt scoring as much, Let them bring Aguero Lacazette Morata Jesus Kane to be playing defence wings and everywhere else but the box and lets see how it will work out
If 13 goals and 5 assists in 21 games is not scoring enough, then we will begin to wonder if there is another meaning of the word "enough". 13/21 * 100 is almost 70%, which is distinction in academics.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:35pm On Dec 08, 2017
raumdeuter:
Lukakus lack of performance is due to the tactical setup of the team which requires him to do more defensive work than other strikers out there
Lukaku does not have any lack of performance, ignore these people, when we see bad performance we know. For now Lukaku is performing optimally. Though there is room for improvement.

NB: I am not in any way saying nobody should criticize ooo, they should continue.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:13pm On Dec 06, 2017
Instead City winning champions league let us go trophyless
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:35pm On Dec 06, 2017
KinzyeWriter:
It is as simple as that bro. cheesy ...

These people just have this personal hatred towards the nigga... I was at the viewing center with a barca fan yday.. He said he didn't see why people blame lukaku. That he isn't useless even when he is not scoring .. As he sees his paces and well precised forward passes.. He could do it with his head and legs.

I was surprised to hear this from another team fan seriously .. And some panke fans will be saying he was woefully performing before that stunner goal. grin
I have said this over and over again but No, some people think they are being chastised for being crybabies, but I have promised myself from today to ignore unconstructive criticism from some certain people and viewed it as another ranting of a troll.
Don't be surprised next week, they will pick another player for criticism.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:23am On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:
Lol

You guys are funny by always calling me old man.

When one day we see, you guys we be surprised I am not so senior to you people. I went to school early and graduated early as well. So that could be the big difference.

I even got a job from my NYSC service year.
Had to choose between two jobs on merit. One of them gotten after passing a tough bank's aptitude test, emerging top 5% of over a thousand candidates. There was even a third job I even forgot to mention, a company I topped their management test (although a one man's business), I was to be sent to head a branch office in Benin. When I got a bank that I knew I would be retained , I had to get a rejection from my PPA in Ikeja, another firm I was the only one taken after four youth corps members sat for their Accounting test. That was like 4 places. My place of PPA, a company and two banks.

It was not fault I knew how to hustle early because I knew where I was coming from. From NYSC camp, I wrote tests and went for interview Fridays and Saturdays. Even after camp (having secured a place of PPA) I didn’t rest. We were 12,000 NYSC members in Lagos during my time.
To be honest people that are opinionated and can wriggle themselves out of trouble in any debate even when defeat is staring at them. E.g. you and raumdeuter are ussually intelligent in reality.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:09am On Dec 06, 2017
Oasis007:
The emboldened is spot on Bro. I wasn't a Fan of him, but I'm pleased with his Ruggedness and Composure last Night. I hope he improves on it and remains a United Player for another Season.
Not only last night smalling has been outstanding for some time now
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:50am On Dec 06, 2017
Oasis007:
grin


Lindelof is becoming a new Vidic, and no one is talking about it?! Shaw had a good Game last Night, won Fans' MOTM, yet little were said about him?! JM seems to have found a good balance for the Team with 3 - 5 - 2, yet the Einsteins ain't discussing the new Formation and Players' setup?!

The 3CBs at the back are well covered, Bailly - Jones - Rojo or Lindelof - Smalling - Blind, the Depth is there to discuss and factually analyze, yet little Attention is given to it?! Shaw has picked up, played well as a LWB, a good Competitor for Young..... should he still be sold or not?!

Tunazebe seems ready to deputize for Valencia, Darmian ain't impressing till now..... should he be sold or not?! Fellaini ain't ready to renew his Contract based on United Terms, McTominay is proving to be a huge Talent..... Fellaini should be offloaded or not?!

Pls, let shift away from Lukaku Matter, these are Matters arising, let's discuss it.
-Lindelof was judged too early including me, but he has settled in marvellously, his pAssing range, his decision making and all round play has been top notch.
- How i wish Jose will forget about rose and believe in Shaw, may be the stoking up of the rose transfer speculation is to fire him up. With the likes of young and Valencia mentoring him, Shaw will definitely come good.
- Jose is not the most successful manager currently in the league for nothing, he has won things even in the
Tightest of scenarios so I am not bothered by his game plan, once the players are up to it, the team will certainly do well. The 352 formation is all about Pogba and any willing runner, which Lingard suits well, but will he be consistent? I earnestly pray So, this formation is the reason Lukaku dropped deeper to draw defenders out of position in order to create space for dangerous passes from Pogba, with the tireless running of Lingard and the ice cold ruthlessness of Martial, teams Will always be caught napping, hence our huge number of goals recently and goals coming from every part of the pitch. Young and Valencia have been really helpful too. The main thing is for our players to keep performing at optimum level.
- our defence has never been our issue we have good personnels there; even Smalling is putting in a shift seriously. There was no time selling Shaw was an option, he is a top talent and St ill young.
- For me Darmian should be offloaded, he seem not to do anything good, but Jose seem to like him though. Tuanzebe and Mctomms will be gradually integrated into the team, there time will come.
- Felliani should appreciate Jose for his trust in him, even when everyone is against him and stay, he is a very vital players and may do a "young later. But You can't blame him though if he decide to go, the fans has given him hell since he arrived, him leaving us I think now depends on him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:48am On Dec 06, 2017
joeace2020:
That is what is driving the old mans behavior. Making a case for rooney's contribution to the team back in the days of his goal droughts but not seeing that for Lukaku because he has swallowed hook, line and sinker the Bias Jam body, no technicality footballer the press has sold him. I will take a Lukaku going through a goal drought over the sh1t mr Rodney was serving us for 2, 3 years before he was sold. I will take a coach who says a player's contribution besides the goals drives him crazy over some self proclaimed soccer genius who nobody besides his family members know for his football knowledge.
The media sold this gibberish to sell paper, them the trolls from the other clubs looking for something to hold on against him latched on it to show their hate, then our apoĺlo analyst fans ignorantly joined the bandwagon to push the agenda. Even if it's Messi, ofcourse Ronaldos fan must find something to discredit him with, I am too experienced in terms of football "turn turn" to be cowed by all these rubbish epistles by those who claim they know. They have get off the back of mourinho for playing bad football, he shut them up, now its Lukakus turn, last year it was Pogba, may be next it will be Matic, then Rojo, and it's goes round. After na them go de talk say women de nag. Keep complaining
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:36am On Dec 06, 2017
eph12:
Who saw Grizzy play? Is he still the messiah as reported?
I have said it time and again that griezman is very good but overrated. 85-100m on him is a waste of money considering he is even 27.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:05am On Dec 06, 2017
elampiro:
You have an agenda. Did Lukaku not miss an empty net from two yards? Was he not slow to react to Pogba's perfect ball?

But when I read this thread, I saw where people were blaming Rashford when the scores stood at 0-0 and 0-1. Rashford who had a far better night than Lukaku. Just because there was an argument, people shifted blame to the young lad. The only ball Rashford could have scored was a poor attempt at goal. But it was still an attempt.

Good Lukaku has scored. Let’s see how it helps his confidence. See I don't watch match alone, so I hear what people say about our players. Even other fans.
Ok
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:58pm On Dec 05, 2017
Vanquay:
What does Lukaku missing have to do with Morata, are they telepathic?
You have not been coming to this forum recently I guess
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:56pm On Dec 05, 2017
elampiro:
Lukaku also missed na.

Morata tested the goalkeeper from unexpected positions.

No one has said Morata or Aguero can't miss sitter. Honestly, Lukaku only scored to redeem his woeful night.
Oga go and sit down. It's obvious you have an agenda against some players
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:38pm On Dec 05, 2017
PietroRico:
lol. E Don do
Oga e never do. The truth must be said, where are all those 10pagers ? Nonsense, the guy scored an excellent poachers goal, but no praise, but let him mistakenly fail to score in one match, them go use 20 pages take discuss him Mata. Nonsense.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:33pm On Dec 05, 2017
But to say the truth, that Lukakus goal is an outstanding goal. But nobody will applaud him. Morata today cost Chelsea top spot by missing sitters, but the Einsteins said its only Lukaku that miss chances. Ok oo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 11:25pm On Dec 05, 2017
diggz:
Scummies owing us s party tonight cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:36pm On Dec 05, 2017
Rashford needs some growing up to do
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:51pm On Dec 05, 2017
Why can't Damian start this game. The guys is just useless stressing Valencia for me
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 7:06pm On Dec 05, 2017
raumdeuter:
Hazard attacker, Debruyne Central midfielder
Ok I did not even see this
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 7:04pm On Dec 05, 2017
Branzy:
Eden Hazard in EPL vs DBryun

*Hazard*
*Mins played* 722 mins
*Goals* 5
*Assists* 2

Debruyne
*Mins played* 1290
*Goals* 4
*Assists* 8
Hazard is an attacking midfielder while KDB is a deep lying midfielder. Compare hazard with Sterling, Sallah and Martial. Then you compare KDB, Fabregas, Pogba and Coutinho. That is a fair comparison

Cc. Raumdeuter
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:09pm On Dec 04, 2017
MRTA7:
Such a terrible time to miss him. City match an even bigger task now. I still think there was no intent in the tackle even though the result was an unfortunate stamp as Bellerin knelt down at the exact moment of impact. So way was it premeditated.
Mark this , United will beat city.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 8:06pm On Dec 04, 2017
hardeycute:
Do you know anything like wing?

automatically Alonso,moses,zapacosta,tripier,aurier,+all players in a 3-4-3 setup are midfielders using your fücking logic
For the first time i have to lose it. You are not intelligent, after na ppl like you go talk say dayo de turn like amala.
Keep obeying Newton's 2nd law of motion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 2:48pm On Dec 04, 2017
hardeycute:
Lol.What about Ashley Younghuh?

Whosocored is Man U Coach?Do you watch football matches or you are one among the many who use Squawks,whosocored,4-4-2,etc to form opinions?.

It will be nice if you can fetch his heatmaps to back up your claim
Hahahahhahah too much grammar, I gave 4 different sites that confirmed the guys position and you are looking for heat map, it clearly indicates someone clutching at straws.
I said Martial is an attacking midfielder you insulted me I gave you facts you are speaking grammar.
Fig 1,2 and 3 are our most recent match versus Arsenal, our match vs Leicester and Liverpool respectively, with different formations. It's clear that the 21 year-old Frenchman is asymmetric with players like mkhitaryan, Mata, Young and Lingard known attacking midfielders all saddled with defensive responsibilities, but no, you are running around like a 5g mass suspended in a simple pendulum. Oga what position does ANTHONY MARTIAL PLAYS IN MAN UNITED? By all evidence, Attacking left Midfielder.

You can continue your insults by the way

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:11pm On Dec 04, 2017
elampiro:
Like what?
Your Lukaku debate with dayo and eph12. Hope you won't rue it later. Just like the Pogba scenario where you were defending yourself against a lot of people
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 1:56pm On Dec 04, 2017
CapitalCee:
Martial. Attacking midfielder.
hardeycute:
Do you have to sound foolish just to make a point to your advantage?
Lolz I won't be uncivilized like you.

I don't know who is foolish now. Judge it yourself

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 1:09pm On Dec 04, 2017
BlueAngel444:
Careful! careful now

If that's how you want to roll cheesy

Batshuayi 490mins 7goals 1assists you whole attacking team cannot better this average grin

You can go and pack your beans now. wink
I am not the person that brought minutes played in the discuss. Or are you trying to use it when it siut your narrative?
Lukaku has scored more goals than Morata assisting more, but no your guy is talking minutes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 12:28pm On Dec 04, 2017
bigkesh:
Morata played just 30 mins in 2 games vs Qarabag while Lukaku hasn't missed a single minute of UCL football was playing full time and stat padding against Russian farmers.

Morata has played 268 minutes less than Lukaku in the league and still has more goals.

Disgracing yourself?
Lukaku 12 goals 5 assists
Morata 10 goals 4 assists.

Morata team 3rd.
Lukaku team 2nd.

If you want minutes.
Martial 9goals 5 assists 885 minutes.
Morata 10 goals 4 assists 1354 minutes

Martial. Attacking midfielder.
Morata. Top striker

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 12:21pm On Dec 04, 2017
BlueAngel444:
Lukaku in EPL hasn't played better than Morata both have 60% shot acc, 1 ave defensive action per game, win 46% of their duels and create same average chances per game or per min.


But Morata has 70% pass acc to Lukaku's 67%, still not enough to say 1 is better than the other.

But if your to consider factors like; this is Morata's first full season as a starter and in EPL and was 20m cheaper than Lukaku well you see Morata wins grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 11:18am On Dec 04, 2017
BlueAngel444:
You want to carry the Lukaku bashing from ManU thread to this place? Are you sure this is wise cheesy
If what i said is wrong tell me.

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