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Lol several rubbish comments i presume. From the usual quarters.
Silence is the best answer given to a fool. 1-0 home win? Jesus! I have seen it all, What will Huddersfield do when we lost to them?
Na laugh i de laff oo.

Madness everywhere. SMH

airmark:
Conte, the boss. Mou humbled.


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With 1-0 home win?

Leyqute:
I wonder why the true fans are hiding. Capitalcee , larride where are you? Mourinho h8rs are bashing the boss.

On a side note, let it be known that Fellaini is now an integral part of the team.

i just wanted the madness by Chelsea fans to fizzle out before i comment. Win 1-0 at home and its like a world cup. SMH. When they through with the hullabalo i will comment. I dint even bother reading the 400+ pouring in here since last night

It's clear the FA want to hand their favorite son The League title with dubious officiating. Good one Mark Oliver thank you for your MOM performance in handing City all 3 points today.

See who is back

Thecassanova:
I hope to see Drinkwater and Kante start this game.

The two only lost twice together, against Arsenal x2

BTW, I see a 3-0 win

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Ibime:
Every team that plays Chelsea would suddenly start returning players from injury. That's how Zaha and Mamadou Sakho used us to return at Palace when we were expecting an easy game.

I am hearing that Manure are about to surprise us with Pogbas return. . . . I see two guys also in training for Chelsea, ready to take on the challenge. . .

I thought pogba is a flop

Neymar1095:
Chelsea better show up tomorrow. Even a draw is allowed.

You are surely afraid of the red devils

ctuagent007:
It's neither here nor there for Martial but i guarantee u that should Mou come to my area, it's certain he might be shot at regarding the sale of Salah....There are times talent (Martial) may take you far & times hard work (Rashford) is that bomb. Messi & Ororo comes to mind here but it is Mou's job b4 he leaves to ensure Martial stays whether hook or crook or else the same Martial may come back to hunt us in a blue/red/sky blue jersey.

Is it MOURINHO that sold sallah?

kelvinze:
wetin u de talk sef?
Ronaldo left because he wants to join Real madrid(no player in his right sense would reject dem) but that didn't left us in a state of destruction like Everton are now or Ac milan and many others..did it? NO
we as a fan of man utd appreciate martial for what has done(in his first season at d club)and is doing right now even sm of Chelsea fan loves him too but when a manager makes a decision bout him,that doesn't mean he wants him out of the team or that doesn't mean he's poo but its because he wants someone that clicks with his instructions.
Martial after his first season has some up and down moment off the pitch thats why he lose form last season but now the manager style of play is helping him regain that form and I can't see anything wrong in that but if he wants out,cool, life goes on .we have sold a lot of great players over the yrs so he's not the first.

But who said Martial is not getting playing time? Must he play all the games? Wont Rashford play? Wont Mata play? Lingard? Mikhi? Nawao the guy is getting playing time abeg, lets forget all these media bickering, Martial is happy at United.
Did we remember a certain United Legend called Ole Gunner Solskjear?

odizeey:
as with pogba so it is with martial. Play time. Martial needs more than he is getting. France no dey even call am.

What do you mean by play time. He is sharing the same position with Rashford, and that position is for both of them. Both have been getting a fair share of the playing time. What else did he want? The time he is getting is enough to prove himself undroppable he should use it. Even Ronaldo have to play himself into the first team, its not automatic. The team can only field 11 players and there are up to 25 first team players, and all have to play. The time he is getting is enough, if he wants more he should start bosing games on a regular basis not occasionally.

Eruditor:
But they have 3 Europa "Major trophy" cups, no? 3 of the last 4 if I can count too.

Same thing i am saying, sevilla is competive just like psg and city but no pedigree.

Eruditor:
Now finance comes into it. You are seeing the light.

So explain the United you are trying so hard to squeeze in based on "competing on the pitch"?

What do you mean? Havent United been competive on the pitch recently? How were they able to amass 3 major trophies in 18 months. Let me tell you only chelsea has been more successful than united recently on the pitch in England. United are competitive both on the pitch and financially.

Look at the bullet points.

- UCL winners, or/and a good amount of domestic titles and massive pedigree.

- Can compete financially at the top level.

- And still compete even till date on the pitch.

Once you can satisfy the above conditions, you are a tier 1 club.

PSG, City, Sevilla, ATM, Spurs, Roma Napoli etc do not posses the first condition.
Celtic, Porto, Ajax, Partizan Belgrade, Staua Bucharesti do not satisfy the 2nd.
While Aston villa and Nothingham forest do not have the third.

Ac milan, Bayern, Inter, Barca, Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Real and Juventus can boast of having a massive pedigree, still has very massive financial clout, and they are still very much competing in the highest level. Its simple. Why all these back and forth things.

Neymar1095:
Just looking at our team line up for this
game last year:
Bravo

Zabba

Clichy

Kolarov

Otamendi

Sane

Fernando

Yaya

D.Silva

De Bruyne

Sterling

Not being funny but that isn't a great
line up and we still won 2-1.

This time i expect nothing less than 4:0

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Eruditor:
So football club Celtic are tier 1? They won the UCL years ago and are still "competitive" till date.

They are not competitive financially. United Chelsea and say Barcelona are still competitive both on the pitch and financially

Eruditor:
But they have 3 Europa "Major trophy" cups, no? 3 of the last 4 if I can count too.

You dont understand my point. The major trophy means they are competitive, they have secured their tier 1 status long ago

ctuagent007:
Hahaha....I understand sha which means should either of PSG or City win the ucl, they automatically enter the Tier 1 level.
Just imagining utd, Shekpe & the likes going trophyless for 10-20 years esp EPL & ucl trophies & then they become Tier 2 clubs abi @CapC

If they win UCL they join.
Once those clubs are still competitive, they are tier 1

Eruditor:
So Sevilla are greater than City and are tier 1?

You know it in your heart that the FA Cup, Carling and Europa cup are not major trophies (I can let the last one pass but it is not as important as it used to be). Only league titles in respected leagues and the champions league make up the major trophies. If you argue against this, then you cannot justify why Arsenal FC should not be tier 1. In the last 4 seasons they have been hugely more successful than United (winning 3 "major" trophies, 3 "minor" trophies) and finishing higher than United in the league in all 4 seasons.

Do you see how it works? Oya, change the argument back to pedigree and how many titles United have won in their history.

Sevilla doeant have UCL just like city. Both are tier 2.

Eruditor:
So Sevilla are greater than City and are tier 1?

You know it in your heart that the FA Cup, Carling and Europa cup are not major trophies (I can let the last one pass but it is not as important as it used to be). Only league titles in respected leagues and the champions league make up the major trophies. If you argue against this, then you cannot justify why Arsenal FC should not be tier 1. In the last 4 seasons they have been hugely more successful than United (winning 3 "major" trophies, 3 "minor" trophies) and finishing higher than United in the league in all 4 seasons.

Do you see how it works? Oya, change the argument back to pedigree and how many titles United have won in their history.

Sevilla doeant have UCL

ctuagent007:
Therefore according to u, Tier 1 like Utd, Shekpe & Liverpool should have been picked ahead of PSG since they are former champs of the ucl.

So according to ur analogy, England wey no sabi ball na Tier 1 as them don win the WC before unlike Belgium wet be Tier 2 or Tier 3.


U still haven't answered by Tier 2s are rated highly than some Tier 1 to win the ucl or the WC?

That not what i mean, My point is psg being the bookies favourites doesnt put them above the above clubs.

Yes England is a big footballing nation far bigger than Belgium. Belgium have not won the world cup and have not won anything of note in their history. And dont always qualify for international tournaments. England have qualified for almost all the world cups and won one. Placing Belgium ahead of England by the bookies doesnt mean Belgium is a bigger footballing nation than England.

Eruditor:
LOL. So Arsenal with 3 of the last 4 FA Cups are what? Is the argument now between City and United? Who in their right senses will argue City over United?

As you can see, you are changing the argument. Carling Cup, FA Cup and Europa together are not equal to or better than 1 EPL. If that was not the case, nobody would troll Liverpool because Gerard Houllier won all such trophies in one season (2001) and everyone keeps asking them for their EPL.

United are a massive club via trophy hauls and financial power as well. If the argument was about recency, then United would be minnows. Hope you see my point.

The financial power of United is one of the reasons they are tier 1 now not about their history. Same as City.

League cup, FA cup and europa league are major trophies so is League title. United are not minnows recently, they have won 3 major trophies in 18 months, so what are you saying? I am not talking about history recently united have won more trophies than city.
Its not only Financial power that is making united great they have won things to go alongside.

hinohsend:
Is Aston Villa a Tier 1 club?

No. That was why i did not bother mentioning then, together with Nothingham forest, they are no longer competitive in the highest level. Liverpool United Chelsea Milan Bayern are still competitive even till date.

For City and PSg case, they do not have enough league titles and UCL to elevate them even based on their recent performances despite the money push in there

ctuagent007:
CapC,
I understand the logic of Tier 1 & 2 but why was PSG the 4th bookmakers favorite to win last yr & this yr UCL since they are according to u a Tier 2?

Belgium is not a tier 1 footballing nation, but they are among bookmakers favourites to win the world cup. You cant. Even Belgium is not more of a bigger footballing nation than Nigeria. A lot of situations warrant bookmakers prediction which doesn't ussually happen.
PSG might be the bookies favourites but are not at par with Madird, Bayern, Barca, United, Milan and arguably Chelsea.

Eruditor:
I hope you can see how you shifted timeline to 5 years to accommodate United and went back to pedigree to rescue Liverpool from your own argument o.

3 major trophies? Any of them bigger than the EPL in the same 3 year time span you were just pointing at me o? Leicester won the EPL once in the last 2 seasons.

But they are major trophies. City did not even have those "trophies not bigger" than EPL. United won 3 major trophies in one and half year. City has just 1 in 3 years. Liecester has 1 major trophy in 2 years, United has 3. Thats the point. United are a massive club and are still winning till this moment. City are not.

Eruditor:
So Liverpool is worse off than Porto and Celtics based on recent form?

So Brendan Rodgers actually got a better job than the one he was sacked from?

So Leicester City is a bigger club than United?

Recent form agrees with the analogies.

Liverpool has massive massive pedigree to show, just like Ac milan and inter. Unlike city. So Brendan Rodgers got a lower job.

Man United have won the league at least in the last 5 years and most importantly have won the UCL which Leicester have not, while still amassing 3 major trophies in the last 18 months liecester did not. That most recent trophy haul elevated then above Liverpool as the most successful club in Britain. Massive club.

Eruditor:
Why 3 years that is my argument?

recent form. Even if you take it to 10 years or 7 years to exactly capture the best possible City trophy haul period, they still did not best Porto or Celtic.

Eruditor:
You are adjusting the timeline dishonestly that is my point. If any player leaves PSG today to go to Porto it will be seen as a relegation. The reason being PSG are a financially tier 1 football club at the moment.

Same for City. Rumors filtered earlier in the season that Messi's clause could be triggered by City and Barca did not treat it with levity. This could not have happened 50 years ago.

It is beyond winning continental titles per se because Aston Villa has won more than Chelsea FC yet John Terry moving there was seen as a decline.

Not everything should be argued to a halt because Dayo is involved. That is what is happening now.

Dayo is a known master dribbler.

Eruditor:
Are they tier 1 clubs that is the issue? Abi don't they have more titles than Chelsea?

Porto and City Crashed out of the champions league the same stage last season. And City have not won the league or any trophy of note in the last 3 years so is porto. Celtic have won their league last year. and just like city have not won UCL of recent

Eruditor:
Pelle's first league cup was in 2014. His 2nd in 2016.

The last 3 league cup winners.
2015 Chelsea.

2016. Man city.

2017. Man United

1 league cup in 3 is correct.

elrony:
Doesn't still make em a tier 1 club in the scheme of things

They should take several seats back when chairmen are discussing

Dont mind them, a club with 2 league titles in half a century and no continental title is not a big Club. Just because Ifeanyi Uba pushed his oil money into Ifeanyi Uba FC of Nnewi and Ikechukwu Ezenwa the super Eagles GK is there doesnt make it on par with AlAhly, Esperance and Enyimba.

Eruditor:
Why is City's own 2 league titles in 50 years but Chelsea's since the turn of the premier league as we know it? Chelsea should have 4 EPL titles in 50 years too.

And Aston Villa, FC Porto, Celtics are the big clubs?

They have more league titles and Champions league than city.