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Oasis007:
“I think it’s my fault — because people are used to my teams getting good results and winning titles. Other people have more time than I have, other people have different standards than I have... and that’s not a problem for me at all.

“We’re going to lose matches, that’s obvious, and I can imagine we’re going to have even more criticism than we have now, but honestly? No problem. It’s not a motivation. It doesn’t change my mind or my stability. We work hard, we try to do the best we can and get the best possible results."

- Jose Mourinho

This are for fans of other clubs who doesn't see anything good in mourinho

Oasis007:
“In relation to the last match, [speaking about the Champions League] I’d like to know — because I don’t know — when United last won two consecutive matches away (2010, against Bursaspor and Rangers).

“I’d like to know the last time United won nine points from three matches in the Champions League (2012). So we’re doing okay.”

- Jose Mourinho

This is for the Einsteins

afrodoc2:
The only progress I can see is that now people here are more realistic. No more Hazard vs Neymar debates, it’s now Hazard vs KDB.
Water has found its level.

Hazard was never on Neymar's level.

raumdeuter:
Last season that you mentioned

KDB 7 goals 23 assists 30 contribution to goals in all comps

Hazard 17 goals 7 assists 24 contribution to goals in all comps

How many games if possible minutes brought about these contributions?

raumdeuter:
Mourinho won the league when Ivanovic was 30. and that was the last useful year Mourinho could get out of him, WHat happened when Mourinho tried to use the same Ivanovic at 31?

Antonio Valencia at RB has won what?

Valencia won two League Titles and several other domestic titles plus Europa dayo

raumdeuter:
Led which Chelsea?

Last yr Chelsea won the league top assist Fabregas 12 assists, top scorer Diego Costa
2015 Chelsea won the league top assists Fabregas 18 assists, top scorer Diego Costa

So how is Hazard leading his team to anything? Its like Madrid winning last CL and saying it was Bale or Isco that led them to it


Show us what Hazard does on the field not in polling booth

Cannavaro led Italy to 2006 world Cup , how many goals/assist did he have?

Xavi led Spain to , Euro 2008, how many goals/assist did he have

Zidane led France to 1998 world Cup, he has less goals/assist than Lilian Thuram

diggz:
Blame sagna,hart,clichy and kolarov.

Which Hart? The one that was exiled by pep to Torino?

Ibime:
What is Ivanovic?

What is Antonio Valencia?

They are both strikers

raumdeuter:
Hazard has 3 goals from penalties and 4 goals from open play in 39 games

DeBruyne has 0 goals from penalties and 5 goals from open play in 26 games

So because it's hazard that scored the penalties it no longer count, he has led his team to two premier league titles, I am not against or for anybody. But where was KDB when Hazard was running rings last Season.

raumdeuter:
If you paid attention you will notice

KdB has played 26 CL games 5 goals all from open play

Hazard has played 39 CL games 4 goals from open play

It doesn't matter whether it's from open anything. Hazard has 7 goals, you are not fair with your assessment of Hazard

Neymar1095:
Imagine puting hazard and kdb in the same
sentence

I did not put them in the same sentence, stats put him above KDB

Chelseafan1:
I'm not interested, Mr. HoopLA should come here and tell us the KDB that has 11 ucl goals.

5 goals in UCL for KDB, and Raumdeuter has been here terrorising us with hazard and his UCL goals.

Neymar1095:
Don't ever repeat the above again

So I should not say the truth again? That stat that diggz put there is it not true? Or is goals and assist not a measure of contribution again?

diggz:

TBH Hazard has a far higher output than KDB, with that stat I see there, it shows Hazard has been better.
Hazard is unfairly judged

If mourinho can get Ozil to return to his realmadrid days form, well it's ok especially when it's free in this inflated Market, if he flops we will simply offload him. Hope he becomes another Matic.

Creatrixity:
That's kinda harsh...Remember, Marcus is just 19. Except for a few freaks of nature that attain football maturity before they can talk, most top players still have decision making problems starting out their careers.

Our living legend, CR7 had a reputation as a "Portuguese nancy boy", and a serial waste man with the occasional flash of brilliance. I'm sure Marcus will get a better understanding of how football works and stop all the senseless running only keeping the threatening attacking displays and improved end product.

It's only a football Einstein that will bash a 19 year old academy graduate who only made his senior debut last year. He has contributed to 10 goals so far this season, 6 goals 4 assist, only Lukaku has contributed more, and he never played 90 min in any of the game. But some 'oversabi' will prefer to whine endlessly like a nagging wife. It really shocks me the way some people comment walahi.
When DDG first came, one of my Man United fan friend was always taunting me for always backing that "error prone" boy. Today what is happening?

lekkie073:
quite unfotunate. fortunate dat no tabloid is aware of u or your opinions.

FIXED.

Leyqute:
I don't know what to expect TBH, what with the injury and lack of form of our players. Let's just hope for the best.

Yeah, the few ones that are not injured and are inform, may run out of gas soon

KingTom:
na joke I dey bro

. I know

Leyqute:
Our next 5 games. Jus tlook at the dates. Good thing we won yesterday. We can now focus better on the games against Tottenham and Chelsea since we've almost clinched UCL qualification.

Mourinho will need to do a lot of rotation, even with the little options he has.

Carrick should fill in during the week to ease the stress off Matic and Herrera. Hope he's ready to play.

HUDDERSFIELD: with Injuries building up and having played two away games in a bounce and the third away game in just 7 days, I will take any type of win here, Matic, Lukaku and Valencia will need to be strong here so that they will get their deserved rest in the midweek, Herrera though wasn't involved in international assignment so he should be ok. Lingard should come in for Mkhi, Young for Blind, Jones should also return.
SWANSEA: a fourth away game, but considering Welsh side woes in the EPL which they allievaited last week with a home win, They may want to focus on the league. mourinho should play fringe players here, Luke Shaw can begin building his match fitness here. Mctominay and tuanzebe should also play.any result here will do, but a win will be a confidence boost.
TOTTENHAM: we should be winning here, Anything short will dent or title hopes, Spurs are a good side, but I am confident we will sneak in a win.
BENFICA: Another home game , where we can wrap up the group. And focus on the League, any kind of win will do and is vital.

CHELSEA: This is another match that is not only about football, lots of fireworks and a lot of pressure. Chelsea without Kante is not the same, but without Pogba, we also have a problem of our own, but again we need 3 points here , to keep the pressure on City. This match is too close to call though.

sinizia:
If I had wanted, I'd have criticised the team and I still wouldn't be wrong neither would it had made me a "false" fan. It wasn't a good performance by the team especially in the first-half, but I chose to dwell on the positive side, plus it's a better display against a team whose defence was solid. Our midfield was not functioning well no thanks to Mhikitaryan that can't protect Hererra and Matic, or link up with Ukaku, leaving him isolated as always.

overall it wasn't a great performance but it's better than the shît we served at Anfield, saying it won't kill you. You're not more "true" a fan than anyone here.

You very correct, every body criticizes but the worry is no commendations some people only knows how to condemn. Your analysis has been balanced and fair. If you watch I waited for like 4-5 weeks before admitting mkhi is struggling,I has criticized Smalling Even Lukaku and Rashford, but when they put in a shift, "it won't also kill you" to say it. As excellent as Degea might be, when he have a stinker we agree that he bleeped up, but when he performed well, why not commend him? I have coached quite some local teams, Good players in our areas always want to play for me. That's because I hardly slate my players, instead I point out errors and encourage them to correct it and do better next time. But when you only condenm without commendations, it only makes you a chronic complainer and a stalker.
Some people think the team will just walk into the pitch and start stuffing the opposition with goals, that is not how it's.
I read British and European football sites and man United fans forums, it's only trolls that makes statement like I see here TBH.

Harry Kane is acclaimed the undisputed best striker in the premier league, which I agree. But two days ago, he missed 2 sitters versus madrid, nobody said anything of it. But Lukaku missed a clear opportunity to score versus Liverpool, Not minding the lack of supply he got, but people here thought he is another Francis Jeffers in a Belgian Passport, despite scoring 11 goals already and we are just in October. Morata missed a sitter yesterday, nobody is talking about it.
Rashford scored yesterday with a excellent ball, but the only thing I see here is insults on him.

I can go on and on, Nobody is saying don't criticize, but do it FAIRLY. No hard feeling though , we all disagree to agree.

KingTom:
Its not a lie. we'll trade all our players for GAYbriel. We should not lie to ourselves, GAYbriel shìts on our players




These are some of the things I've read on this very thread

Ok sir .

KingTom:
Because GAYbriel is better than all our players combined

.it's a lie

patrickmuf:
I have always maintained that it's not we against them, stop fighting an imaginary war...We won but to be realistic, we could have done better in terms of attack, Benfica was there for the taking...Defense was great, midfield was good but we were a bit lacking in attack, Mhkitaryan takes a chunk of the blame...Mou has to move mata to the centre to give Mhki some competition and try Rashford on the right...At the rate we are going, Zlatan when fit will walk into this team.

Nobody is saying it's we against them, but a champions league win away against any opposition is a good result, Benfica are playing with almost everybody behind the ball, a win is an excellent outcome , Barca won Sporting from the same country ,0-1. So what's different. And van gaals United would have seen this as a world Cup win. The most important thing now is to put the points on the board, While managing our injuries and shaping the team for the better.
Defence has been solid, that is a plus point and Matic is proving to be the signing of the season.

Fussbot:
Lmao is this place really this quiet?e don tire us so?

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No commendations for getting an important away win, and on the brink of qualification, no praise for Matic who gave a 9/10 performance. No mention of Rashford who scored with an excellent ball despite the keepers error and get injured, only condemnation for his few mistakes (which is ok though) no mention of Our Defence which keep plugging away with clean sheets. It's seems we only wait to latch onto errors and whine about them endlessly and keep mute when we do well.
Ball Possession 70-30 but no one is talking about it.
I am just surprised Sha. Only sinizia was able to give some credit.

Bibidear:
thanks,so happy to be here

Welcome dear

diggz:
You are bringing a new argument into the discourse on ground bros.

Where you start from is not the issue in life...where you choose to settle is actually the issue. Starting up as a microfinance banker does not mean your umbilical cord is automatically tied to it, if you are smart and focused in life, you will find whatever experience you have gathered useful enough to progress to your next assignment in life.

You are absolutely correct here, that is very possible. But I don't know if gaining experience in one sector and making use of the experience to lunch into other endervous in life equate to Career progression? (I stand to be corrected though). I understand the angle you are coming from though, but a bus driver could also get a requisite experience on the work to progress to other things, me think.

diggz:
You obviously don't get it oga....you are looking at the monthly salary while I am looking at the experience each party can gain to further their careers in life. While a driver will always be a driver or end up as a head driver after several years, a microfinance marketer can move into commercial banking or move into any other sector as a sales person.

Anyways, What is certain is that a smart microfinance marketer will always have a higher career ceiling when compared to a bus driver anyway,anytime.

Meanwhile you are yet to confirm if these marketers actually earn 25k or less?

So a bus driver cannot progress overtime? Buying a fleet of vehicles and may be become a transport line owner? Let me tell you my brother, I don't know for others, if you pay me 50k as a Microfinance bank Marketer and I am a bus driver Making 35-40k a month, I will take the later. It will be extremely difficult for a Microfinance marketer to have a career progression, even if you eventually break into the main banks (not because of your experience in MFB, but just qualification and the right age) Nobody will employ you in any commercial Bank or cooperate organization because of your exploits as a MFB marketer.

As for the salary, there is no site that will give you any CORRECT info on the payrolls of MFBs, so how do you want me to prove it to you.

diggz:
Do you have it on authority that microfinance staff earn less than 25k or you guys are just speculating?

I worked in one of the biggest and juiciest banks in Nigeria for like 5 years, as a full staff before moving to the UK. Only very few of us had career progression from our employment portfolios, the rest are window dressing. Not to talk of Microfinance bank that some of their staff both marketers and operations staff (some are both) are not even much better than sales persons in Big supermarkets.

diggz:
Why? Even if we assume a bus driver earns more than a microfinance marketer..... Where is the career progression in being a bus driver bros? I am sorry but you guys are really trolling bros

Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahhahhaa, career progression in Microfinance bank!!! ??
Even real big commercial banks, only about 15% of the staff have Career progression, the rest are slaves. Anybody you see working in a Microfinance, except maybe the Manager is. not better than a bus driver any day.

diggz:
Which kind micro finance bank dey pay their staff 25k...sey Ur malaria dey scatter Ur head ni?

TBH if you see any microfinance that pays 25,k a month, for their marketers ,they try walahi

diggz:
Microfinance bank better pass bus driver na pastor! You sure say u no get malaria?

Forget trolling, I will prefer to be a bus driver to a microfinance mat marketer