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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:03pm On Oct 24, 2017
Dantedasz:
He!HeHe!
Where are those wishing harm on Jesse Lingard?
I wish he had got a hat trick.
Great pragmatic performance by the second eleven.
Yeah!Bring on Spurs.
On to the next one.
Ha!HaHa!
Mourinho is a coward for putting in matic and lukaku
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:00pm On Oct 24, 2017
Oasis007:
Seem you are interested in a lengthy but fruitless Discourse Tonight?! Shaw was on the Bench, same as Mata! Giving Shaw few Minutes to boost his Confidence in an already won Match, simply by removing yellow-carded Blind for him won't be a bad Call Either! Same as Mata replacing Rashford.
May be you should be appointed the united manager, since from your home you know the fitness level and match readiness more than the manager, the assistant, first team coaches and physios to determine who to come on in a match and who to be replaced. Yes we as fans should question the manager, but labelling him a coward from the confort of our keyboard for something we are not sure is totally classless
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:19pm On Oct 22, 2017
Lana1:
I admit SAF should ve won more UCL titles. 2 in 30 yrs was very poor. And yes he did ve very little opposition in the league. But saying SAF wins the league with low point total is false. The lowest SAF(or anyone else for that matter) has ever won the PL with is 75pts in 96/97. 75pts almost every other season, na top 4 finish
abeg I am not undermining Fergies legendary, this oour discussion has moved away from the. Mourinho tactics issue. its just a debate of then vs now.

Fergie won a good number of league title with high points like eighty something. but he also won some good number too with point totals that if it were now you wont even be considered title contenders. 75pts in some seasons will not get you into top 4 like last season and i think in 2014. this season it will be very hard to enter top 4 with 75 points and teams are now harder to beat now than then. i remember a season that Fergie clawed back around 11 points on arsenal i think 2002/2002. this season i dont see any one equalizing this man city team of 11 points. things are a bit harder now than then.
I stand to be guided though
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:08pm On Oct 22, 2017
Lana1:
And how many league titles??
fighting for the league title in a two horse race with passengers like Wenger, Kevin kegan, Dalglish, and gerrald houllier. SAF is a once in a life time manager and a genius, but he had it sooo easy, he can afford to lose so many points at the start of the season, and still win the league as other managers always fall like a pack of card. if that happens now, he will be thankful for with a too 4 finish. Fergie wins league with very low point total. in this current set up of "top 6" it may be argued that he wont win that league hall. our very poor season total of 69 last season would have been title contenders in some seasons
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:49pm On Oct 22, 2017
larride:
No one is saying error does not happen, the team responded terrible yesterday, everyone has acknowledged that much, everyone is busy blasting Mou saying all sort but forgetting those same players that made the error in the first place.

Imagine someone say we should blame Young who passed to Mata. Because it's Mou, everyone just bash him. If you wanna bash the manager, at least do that with all sense of objectivity, not shouting Mou upandown even for our players school boys error.
i have been saying this the whole of last week; i was tagged jose fan boy i stopped talkking about it. someone is even blaming jose for Martials petulance. as if its Mourinho that made Martial to have a woeful euro 2016 in france. Mata made a mistake but because he is a nice guy, Jose the Arrow should be bashed. abeg na small pikin the worry me, no mind me if you think i am a jose fan boy . i am nor
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:54pm On Oct 22, 2017
Oasis007:
United gonna definitely park a 30 Tons Trailer with deflated Tyres against Spurs. I'm ain't gonna see the Match sef!

I don't wanna end up with sober mood after the Match.... I can't die of HBP because of JM Tactics.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:55pm On Oct 22, 2017
Little wonder pogba struggled last year, playing with average and ghost mode players like mata, mkhi, lingard and herrera. Immediately matic came pogba became world class. Currently, Matic is doing but the work of the creator and the anchor man. Herrera and mkhi are just passengers, wbile lingard is average
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:50pm On Oct 22, 2017
slimghost:
Shall we remind you how many times Rashford has been piss poor this season in this same setup?
You are correct. Martial is a better footballer than Rashford arguably, but Rashford's attitude seems to be like he is the older of the two. Any day Rashford put in a bad display, most times its as a result of limited ability and lack of proper reading. But martial seem to be an excellent player, but him too de do like woman, sometimez sulky, sometimes happy, other time uninterested etc. So is his performance. He seem to be troubled at times.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:44pm On Oct 22, 2017
larride:
Lol.

It's Mou that's making our shit players play like dunderhead. Mou is the one holding Miki, Mata, Herrera, Martial back.

LOL. Everyone is an analyst online.
easy to blame. Lolz
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:28am On Oct 22, 2017
patrickmuf:
Hehehe he runs and runs even without end product, he is a Mou kind of player...Bebe shits on him...
Lolz this guy and slimghost just the make me laff inside train. Ppl come de wonder
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:22am On Oct 22, 2017
SIRcumalot:
i don't expect swashbuckling football,Jose na our manager.
i expect my player to at least do the minimum to win
now i understand,if this is the 1st or 2nd season that we're into this martial experience this is the third year bro ?
for how long is Martial failing going to be as a result of other people not making runs or,lingard,or playing two holding midfielders.
Martial is a fan favorite,so objectivity is often absent in criticizing players like that.
He is very effective from the bench,let him go back.
The guy too de do sef. No be formation joor. Person wey go ball go ball. Put another player with bottle there he will do better. I like the guy well but sometimes him de fall hand
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:16am On Oct 22, 2017
patrickmuf:
How won't Martial look like bench players when we are set up to contain rather than have a go at teams that square up against us...Please I'd like folks here to sit down and watch our game little emphasis on the very small details we take for granted for instance, when Martial is on the ball running at the defenders, you'd find Young still in our half on most occasions or not making the right run to draw defenders away from Martial, also, you have a technical and physically limited Lingard saddled with the responsibility of linking the midfield and attack and combining with the wingers and you expect swashbuckling football? You are indeed in wonderland...
And who uses two holding midfielders against a team like Huddersfield? Yes Herrera and Matic are both playing as holding midfielders and it's down to Mou to instruct Herrera to bump forward or find other solutions...
I am not doubting his ability, but if he is good as he is hailed to be, he should adapt to any formation he find himself, the dude is 2 years older than Rashford but it seems, Rashy has better Psycological strenght. Rooney at Martial's age was used in a variety of positions to accomodate playerz like Ronaldo, berbetov and tevez. And stiĺl produce excellent performances week in week out till 09/10 season when he took up the main striker position and be scored 34 goals that season. Martial should toughen up and stop sulking jare.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:07am On Oct 22, 2017
chrisley024:
Lingard with his headless chicken movement while Miki goes into ghost mode or Mata falling like he was under anointing. Depends on which one chooses grin
Tough choice. Why not offload aĺl
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:59am On Oct 22, 2017
slimghost:
I wholeheartedly disagree. Better player in what sense please? Just mention one notable thing he did right for the whole 90 minutes. Lukaku and Rashford were way way better then the headless chicken yesterday.
Let's not confuse lots of movememt with effectiveness. Ikedia had lots of movements too.
Lolzz. Lingard is an average squad player, i dont know why people are bothered about him, that was why i dey look that suggestion to replace miki with him somehow, but based on say miki Bleep up don too much, wetin man go do.

A lot of deadwoods need to be offloaded in the summer, we have a lot of passengers in our squad. Carrick should kuku retire na and create space for another younger player who will play regularly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:50am On Oct 22, 2017
SailorXY:
you think say na everybody sabi watch match? many just dey stare @ TV to look for scapegoats & talk about money wey no be their business just in case. since that guy got injured I can count how many clear-cut chances we've created on one foot.
No pogba na baller last last, the guy good. When he was there everything was flowing, and another problem was that Jones injury, if he had been around it would have been another clean sheet. Lindelof fall my hand walahi , the scout would have easily seen his flaws na, He has one or two disaster in him per game. Poor signing for now, those mistakes are sunday league standard.
One of Rojo or Bailly have to be back ASAP or we will just be fighting for top 4.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:07am On Oct 22, 2017
Who was the scout who recommended lindelof for Gods sake?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:45pm On Oct 21, 2017
Neymar1095:
Shitttt Chelsea escape..... let me Pitch my tent here I see man u dropping points.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:35am On Oct 21, 2017
Oasis007:
“I think it’s my fault — because people are used to my teams getting good results and winning titles. Other people have more time than I have, other people have different standards than I have... and that’s not a problem for me at all.

“We’re going to lose matches, that’s obvious, and I can imagine we’re going to have even more criticism than we have now, but honestly? No problem. It’s not a motivation. It doesn’t change my mind or my stability. We work hard, we try to do the best we can and get the best possible results."

- Jose Mourinho
This are for fans of other clubs who doesn't see anything good in mourinho
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:34am On Oct 21, 2017
Oasis007:
“In relation to the last match, [speaking about the Champions League] I’d like to know — because I don’t know — when United last won two consecutive matches away (2010, against Bursaspor and Rangers).

“I’d like to know the last time United won nine points from three matches in the Champions League (2012). So we’re doing okay.”

- Jose Mourinho
This is for the Einsteins
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 8:22am On Oct 21, 2017
afrodoc2:
The only progress I can see is that now people here are more realistic. No more Hazard vs Neymar debates, it’s now Hazard vs KDB.
Water has found its level.
Hazard was never on Neymar's level.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 8:18am On Oct 21, 2017
raumdeuter:
Last season that you mentioned

KDB 7 goals 23 assists 30 contribution to goals in all comps

Hazard 17 goals 7 assists 24 contribution to goals in all comps
How many games if possible minutes brought about these contributions?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 8:15am On Oct 21, 2017
raumdeuter:
Mourinho won the league when Ivanovic was 30. and that was the last useful year Mourinho could get out of him, WHat happened when Mourinho tried to use the same Ivanovic at 31?

Antonio Valencia at RB has won what?
Valencia won two League Titles and several other domestic titles plus Europa dayo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 8:05am On Oct 21, 2017
raumdeuter:
Led which Chelsea?

Last yr Chelsea won the league top assist Fabregas 12 assists, top scorer Diego Costa
2015 Chelsea won the league top assists Fabregas 18 assists, top scorer Diego Costa

So how is Hazard leading his team to anything? Its like Madrid winning last CL and saying it was Bale or Isco that led them to it


Show us what Hazard does on the field not in polling booth
Cannavaro led Italy to 2006 world Cup , how many goals/assist did he have?

Xavi led Spain to , Euro 2008, how many goals/assist did he have

Zidane led France to 1998 world Cup, he has less goals/assist than Lilian Thuram
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 11:08pm On Oct 20, 2017
diggz:
Blame sagna,hart,clichy and kolarov.
Which Hart? The one that was exiled by pep to Torino?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 10:59pm On Oct 20, 2017
Ibime:
What is Ivanovic?

What is Antonio Valencia?
They are both strikers
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 10:57pm On Oct 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
Hazard has 3 goals from penalties and 4 goals from open play in 39 games

DeBruyne has 0 goals from penalties and 5 goals from open play in 26 games
So because it's hazard that scored the penalties it no longer count, he has led his team to two premier league titles, I am not against or for anybody. But where was KDB when Hazard was running rings last Season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 10:08pm On Oct 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
If you paid attention you will notice

KdB has played 26 CL games 5 goals all from open play

Hazard has played 39 CL games 4 goals from open play
It doesn't matter whether it's from open anything. Hazard has 7 goals, you are not fair with your assessment of Hazard
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 9:39pm On Oct 20, 2017
Neymar1095:
Imagine puting hazard and kdb in the same
sentence
I did not put them in the same sentence, stats put him above KDB
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 9:09pm On Oct 20, 2017
Chelseafan1:
I'm not interested, Mr. HoopLA should come here and tell us the KDB that has 11 ucl goals.
5 goals in UCL for KDB, and Raumdeuter has been here terrorising us with hazard and his UCL goals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 9:06pm On Oct 20, 2017
Neymar1095:
Don't ever repeat the above again
So I should not say the truth again? That stat that diggz put there is it not true? Or is goals and assist not a measure of contribution again?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 8:53pm On Oct 20, 2017
diggz:
shocked shocked cool
TBH Hazard has a far higher output than KDB, with that stat I see there, it shows Hazard has been better.
Hazard is unfairly judged
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:54pm On Oct 20, 2017
If mourinho can get Ozil to return to his realmadrid days form, well it's ok especially when it's free in this inflated Market, if he flops we will simply offload him. Hope he becomes another Matic.

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