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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:55am On Aug 31, 2021
Oasis007:
cheesy

Everything is not agenda bruh. I've praised him many times on the Thread. I've criticised him many times as well.

I've nothing against him as Trevor, just want the best for the Club and hope all Players are critique fairly.
This is purely an agenda, you are sounding as if Bruno is holding onto those kicks as his birthright, he has on some occasions let other people even take the PKs and the reason why people were even insistent on him taking all the PKs are because we dont win matches with high margins most of our matches are ussually tight. Moreover Ronaldo is not a better PK taker than Bruno. This issue is not suppose to lead to any criticism AT ALL. If you praise good, but stop trying to scratch out criticism were it doesnt exist, like one guy that use to come here once in a blue moon to find faults.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:27am On Aug 31, 2021
Expert17:
PK, maybe.

But not freekicks.
Bruno doesn't even take all free kicks, its Shaw that takes them as well as corners, it seems Greenwood is now on left-sided Corners this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:25am On Aug 31, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

CR7 should take over all kicks, even Goal Kick. Rashford relinquished it for Bruno, the latter has to do same for a superior Player.
Whats your agenda on Bruno? Yes we all agree PKs should go to Ronaldo, but in the Case of Bruno we used to have penalty issues before he came in, we missed like 4 consecutive penalties at some point, and clearly Bruno is better than other in free kicks.

Bruno doesn't take corner kicks, he doesn't take long range free-kicks too and even the short ones he doesn't take all. I want to ask you Oasis what Wrong did Bruno do to you?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:22am On Aug 31, 2021
Expert17:
Ferdinand: I think Bruno gives up penalties but doesn't relinquish free-kicks and corners. The free-kicks around the box, he's going to be on them I think. I think his record demands that he should do that.

'He (Ronaldo) takes the penalties, 100 per cent. They agree to give him the penalties but I think free-kicks around the box, Bruno's just wiping the ball and putting it down.

'I think Bruno sees the bigger picture, that this guy can get us over the line to win us trophies.


I want Bruno to take both PK and Freekick.
No Ronaldo should take PKs. Bruno is my main guy, but PKs must go to Ronaldo simple
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:12am On Aug 31, 2021
KingAlabi:
Na so this transfer window go end and no deal for a CDM?
if this people no sign CDM, then there is an existential problem in the club.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:35pm On Aug 30, 2021
jargooflife912:
Imagine defending Fred with the rubbish he always play sigh
Shhhh Bruno is did not come to help him. We need to sign another midfielder who will help Fred
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:59pm On Aug 30, 2021
eph12:
Is it not capitalce? That's why he's one of the easiest to troll na grin
But na true na you think Ronaldo will cope with that shitshow from Fred?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:33pm On Aug 30, 2021
Mrviktor:
I'm struggling to see how Sancho benches Greenwood this, season..

He has a better chance benching Rashford
Know this and know Peace. Once Sir Marcus Rashford (MBE) returns fit from injury. He, Shaw, Maguire and Bruno will be the first name on the First XI. Except they want to rest him. Others can go and drag the remaining positions.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:28pm On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
I think it's a straight choice between Bruno and Pogba, one of them has to be benched if we are not signing a DM otherwise, only two of Ronaldo/Rashford/Cavani/Sancho/Greenwood/Martial should start...

Ole has the next one days to figure out how to set up against Newcastle United...

Our attack is loaded with quality and numbers but when match start, we will be playing like Watford...Ronaldo will not accept the mediocrity from most of the players, I expect all of them to raise their game else CR7 will want out next summer...
Na slap Ronaldo go slap Fred when he give opponent ball instead of to him. Ronaldo played with Ole and Carrick so he is like a coach too, he will surely tell them he cant cope with Fred. Watch out
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:24pm On Aug 30, 2021
KingAlabi:
Among our back four, only varane had the confidence to pass to Fred, Maguire dey ignore Fred die, he rather boots the ball up front.
In the first half, Varane was always finding Fred with a pass, but after some time when he noticed his patner Maguire is ignoring Fred, he started connecting with Shaw and Pogba to save the team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:06am On Aug 30, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

It's not unusual on this Board. Let them keep enjoying the moment while it lasts. We ain't saying Bruno is a bad Player, rather should be helping the Pivot to control midfield and letting Attackers do their Job.

Sancho was lost on the Pitch yesterday, thanks to honorable Bruno, coz he won't let the young man enjoy his Wing.

This is not the Day to dicuss Bruno Effect on the Team, but I am so sure the Day is coming. If DDG could be condemned on this Board, then no one is safe.
So Bruno is disturbing Sancho in his wing, he is hindering Pogba and Fred, he is disturbing Greenwood because he is a small boy. Very soon Bruno will be blamed for standing close to Ole during a match making him to make wrong sub
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:34am On Aug 30, 2021
Botfuss:
We will keep pointing at players anytime we face teams with better managers.

I have decided not to pick blame any player anymore except for obvious individual errors. But our overall play? Na, you can’t build something on nothing. I’d take Potter over Ole.

It’s just so painful because ole will be the end of many talents.
I am not Ole fan, but you cant blame him for a professional footballer surrendering possession like someone that went for alter call all match
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:32am On Aug 30, 2021
afrodoc2:
That last goal line block was by AWB not Pogba. And that was a different incident in the 6th minute in which he miscued a simple interception to Trincao before he started rolling on the floor picking grass like someone that took Ebuka.cute up on his jazz bet.
Lol. This incident was the one that shocked me, handing opponents possession is typical fred so i took it as one of those days. But this time, Wolves cleared the ball from defence under pressure the ball want directly to fred in our own half, he had almost half of the pitch all to himself, he controlled the ball right into the path of Trincao who was very far away. Varane stood surprised he must be wondering how Fred is even a footballer
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:26am On Aug 30, 2021
Expert17:
Bruno dey try abeg shocked shocked shocked
A defensive midfielder in 2021 have no single last man tackle? Ok oo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:09am On Aug 30, 2021
Nezzjnr:
I don't want to even talk about that game against Argentina... He should have been pulled out before Halftime sef.
He couldn't hold on to the ball, little pressure from Argentine midfielders he will surrender possession like burnt oferring to them. Tite isnt patient like Ole he has to be removed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:05am On Aug 30, 2021
afrodoc2:
cheesy You dey very harsh.
No na doc , he said generally when even Shola Shotire will excell in that Brazilian midfield prior to the Final
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:45am On Aug 30, 2021
Nezzjnr:
But truth be told... He was one of their most impressive players.

I think generally he had a rating of 7.55 in the Tournament..
Generally against Peru etc. Against Argentina nko whoch is the the true test, Tite removed him at halftime because he was atrocious
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:27am On Aug 30, 2021
Nezzjnr:
Did we all watch Fred during the Copa Competition undecided
In the Final agaisnt Argentina I watched the full match live. He was atrocious, Peredes and that new athletico guy were having a field day in first half. Brazilian coach chalked him off at half time
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:24am On Aug 30, 2021
timay1:
Lampard was scoring all the goals for Chelsea but it didn't stop them from winning Trophies.

We could have won the FA cup last season as well as the Europa league. Fred sent us out of the FA, Ole and De Gea lost us the Europa. It had nothing to do with Bruno scoring all the goals. Infact. It appeared like that because Martial that was supposed to contribute was shit. And greenwood had a slow start to the season due to obvious personal issues he had at the beginning of the season.

Bruno scoring won't stop us from winning Trophies it infact supposed to improve our chances
Imagine Amorin the current Sporting Manager joined Sporting 2 months after Bruno lwft for United. They played with completely different pattern and formation and brought in more guys. So how is it linked to Bruno. Sporting even won Taca de portugal with Bruno, why didnt his G/A hinder them
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:21am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Bruno has always had elite numbers however, his team pays the price...

It looked like he was the heartbeat of Sporting but he left and they won the Portuguese Premier Liga...

There’s a problem when a midfielder is consistently the top scorer of a top club like Manchester United. If Bruno is a forward, let Ole just play him as a false 9 and get another body in midfield.

With our obvious lack of a quality DM, we need 3 bodies in midfield and not 2 and a half.
Bruno is holding the team down? So you are atrributing Sporting not winning the league 2 years ago because of Bruno? Forgetting they changed their Manager and brought in new players in Central Midfield and Defence and changed their formation to back 3? Nawao the extent you can go to slander Bruno all because Fred cannot control a bag of cement
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:17am On Aug 30, 2021
eph12:
We're not going to score if we're struggling to create quality chances. Do you guys prefer the team suffering for some player's personal glory?
it is not personal glory na. When Bruno scores wont it be counted for the team? Bruno helpss the Midfiled but he needs to do his primary responsibility which is score or assist. Ole have given him that responsibility and that's what he will be judged with not covering up for Fred inability to control ball under no pressure
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:09am On Aug 30, 2021
eph12:
They said he's a forward now. So when opposition fans comes up with this point, they should just agree o
No wahala, even his numbers are elite
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:08am On Aug 30, 2021
eph12:
If that's what the team needs at that moment, then yes they should. That's why it's a team. After all we encourage FBs to get forward and join the attack
But Bruno do join the midfield na, the issue is we still needs to score. Most of our goals come through him even on his off day
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:06am On Aug 30, 2021
TheLequte:
It’s too early to be having these kinds of projections. Bruno is known for his quality deliveries. Ronaldo will appreciate his assists.

For all your bashing, Bruno created Greenwood’s goal vs Soton by passing to Pogba in a difficult angle.

Furthermore, if Bruno leaves his advanced position (and main job of making goals happen) to get heavily involved with buildup play (that the 2 midfielders should take care of), who will create the goals when the ball get up the pitch?
He wants young boy Greenwood to trouble Saiss, Boly, Coady,Semedo and Ginbs white alone.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:03am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
See them already agitated because Bruno is mentioned...

Moutinho and Neves were able to dominate the midfield yesterday because they had little defensive responsibility no thanks to Bruno abandoning his role in our set up. If Bruno was positionally disciplined yesterday, one of Moutinho or Neves would have had to sit deep to defend against him but no, Bruno was playing more as a striker. Greenwood will take it because he is a young lad but Ronaldo won't tolerate it. Bruno should focus on his primary responsibility of linking the midfield and attack...He can still score or assist from there though his numbers will drop but it will be for the overall good of the team.
Neves and Moutinho where free because Wolves were playing 3 at the back and our wingers James and Sancho were ineffective. So Bruno should troble 5 defenders alone? How can he link Midfield and attack when the Midfield is non existent. So Bruno should go and get the ball from Varane/Maguire then go ahead and trouble Wolves back 5? While Fred and Pogba will be eating salad
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:52am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Bayern have Muller in Bruno's position. All to teams have that link man between midfield and attack.
You are saying this because its Goretzker and Kimmich put them in that our Midfield and you will not be haveing this conversation
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:50am On Aug 30, 2021
eph12:
It wasn't a 2 vs 2 because even Traore was drifting into the midfield
Hence James which Ole admitted after the match, you are sounding as is Bruno stayed away completely from Midfield, he was there, but at the same time he needs to join the attack
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:49am On Aug 30, 2021
Expert17:
They won't see this.

The heat map is there for all to see.
I am stunned by Patrick analysis so Bruno should stay back and not chase goal at 0-0, because our Midfielders could not do a 2-2 battle well
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:48am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
This is what we expected to see yesterday.

............................Bruno................................
..............Moutinho......Neves.......................
..............Pogba............Fred...... ...................

If Bruno had occupied that position illustrated above, no way will Neves and Mourinho have the freedom to dictate the play. Bruno left that position and it became a 2 vs 2 midfield battle when in all honesty it was supposed to be 2 vs 3 in midfield.
So Pogba and Fred cant engage Moutinho and Neves to allow Bruno to attack? Are we Burnley? So how are we supposed to scored if all we do is midfield battle royale, who are Neves and Moutinho? May be if we meet Bayern in UCL Cavani, Rashford and Sancho and even CR7 will join to rescue Pogba and Fred because you will be coming up against Goreztker and Kimich. My brother leave matter lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:41am On Aug 30, 2021
eph12:
You answered me here. I'm not sure every other thing is necessary.

However we will be fine when we realize that players are not forbidden to drop into the midfield to steady the ship as it benefits everyone including this star player. Let him be running after imaginary balls in the opposition box when Pogba that should supply him is not finding space
My brother, Pogba is finding it difficult becuase Fred was like Wolves 12th man, he cant find his man, he is clumsy, he is poor on the ball and cant control a bag of cement, and surprisingly he is being dribbled every single time. Put Kante or Carrick there Pogba will flourish ala France. Like I said before we need a goal and Bruno us desperate for that he is our go-to-man, you cant deny that Bruno is a team player. This is wolves oo not Barca or Bayern, we simply need to score and Bruno also have to engage their CBs to discourage them from joining the attack. As good as Greenwood is, he is still inexperienced and leaving him at the mercy of Wolves 3 CBs will not work.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:25am On Aug 30, 2021
adisaaowala:
Baba, the truth is that this is a conversation most peeps here arent ready for.

If we remove his goals/assist from setplay and carefully assess his contribution to our overall play ehn....

Make i just stop here sha
I dont understand what you mean by carefully assess his contribution and remove goals/assists from setplays?
Bruno doesn't take corner kicks, and he rarely takes far distance freekicks shaw takes most, the only free kick he takes are ones he has a chance of converting from close range, its only penalties that boasts his G/A stats from setplays. He is the best in both close range FKs and PKs, so how is that a negative for him.

If Patrick is saying Bruno should tone down his hunger for his G/A number to help out in midfield fine, and it is in good faith. You are sounding as if Bruno is a passenger and those his contributions are worthless, when infact we are having this conversation because those saddled with the responsibility of holding their forth in Midfield failed in their duty. In 10/11 Season it was Carrick and Giggs that held the Midfiled for most of the season with aplomb, no one is slandering Rooney's G/A record, because Bruno is occupying the Rooneyesque position.

In France Pogba is flourishing because Kante is a tank and he is good on the ball, alowwing Greizman to join the attack and drop deep occasionally, thats exactly what Ole asked Bruno to do. Our First goal versus Leads clearly showed that, also last season away to Leicester and numerous more. Why should you assess Bruno's contribution and chalk out his G/A record from set plays because our DM and CM are incapable? The conversation you should be making seriously was why Moutinho and Neves ran rings all over pogba and Fred not Bruno who is trying to score and win the game. Moreover Bruno have not scored any goal from set play this season so why the scrutiny on him
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:59am On Aug 30, 2021
afrodoc2:
Trincao and Traore especially got tired in the 2nd half as well and that allowed us some space to breath. Another thing was AWB giving Traore some breathing space rather than rushing towards him rashly like he was doing in the first half.

Traore prefers you to rush him or close mark him so he can roll you or outmuscle you and then leave you behind. That is why i liked the way Varane was holding him off and marking the space rather than rushing to make a tackle.
Varane is a world class defender

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