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Jeromejnr:
CaptainJune...come see this abeg. Especially the bolded.

Hahaha. Lawa o. You're so right when you said some peeps are not just meant to read the Bible on their own. The comment you quoted is a case in point.

Wow! Am flabbergasted. Clearly, a lot has happened between yesterday and today. Putting on my glasses to begin reading from where I stopped.

Jeromejnr, isn't it obvious? Isn't it obvious he is so afraid of poverty yet he preaches it?

If, truly, Christ called us to a life of poverty as he argues, he shouldn't have any problem saying amen to your 'prayer'. Why go roundabout the matter?

He is the kind that preaches a life of poverty to please God but secretly accumulates wealth by the side. He has fallen into the pit of his lies by refusing to say amen to a simple prayer that reflects his belief.

As in, if you prayed for me to grow rich through Christ according to my belief, I would give a resounding AMEN that would vibrate and echo through this section. You would feel the impact of my vibration through your phone sef.

So what is the problem with his saying amen to a prayer that is a blessing to him? Unless, unless he sees it as a curse hence his refusal to verbally agree with the prayer. Lol. This is really funny.

Paulscholari, you know it is not a light matter to say you have the Call of God upon your life but seeing what you have experienced it makes sense.

hope you don't mind my asking. How did you come about the revelation of your Calling?

tpiander:
how so?

It is our opportunity to reach the lost.... I won't subscribe to a strictly Christian section. That way, we deprive ourselves of the opportunity to reach out to the world.

tpiander:
and how many Christians are in the section or even active in it?

the hostility is out of proportion to the actual Christian activity here.

I don't see it as hostility. In my view, everyone is free to voice their opinion. Doesn't matter if it goes against our beliefs.

So it is meant to be. If you ask me, it is much better that way.

menesheh:
Enjoy.
I just want to hail you. How everything nah.

Lol. Me sef dey hail u

menesheh:
Look at how your brain is battling within itself creating fantasies. Chaii

Known unknown

Lol. Atheists. I can only point the direction to a blind man but I'll never argue with him.

Jeromejnr:
Another very wonderful answer. Especially in the aspect of believers authority.

Well, to God be the honour, not me. I only say what I know and have experienced time and again.

A believer only needs to speak and the devil will have no choice but to obey. That is authority. It doesn't matter if the demons are legion or as tall as the heavens. The authority Christ has given us through His death makes them obey, willy-nilly.

Battle against evil spirits is among the many reasons why I know that whoever says God is a product of imagination is not only a big fool but also blind bat. No insults intended.

Jeromejnr:
Preach on broda!

If they like, let them keep deceiving themselves with man made doctrines.

They have chosen to live below their privileges in Christ.

Lol. So unfortunate for those who don't know their rights in Christ. It is a tragedy I tell you because they will put up with the things they are never meant to tolerate as kings on earth, as joint heirs with Christ, the children of the Great King.

Can you imagine a very wealthy king who has inherited lands, gold, houses, abundant property, servants, vast army, etc leaving his palace daily to stand in line with peasants for a piece of crusty bread and watery tea? Sometimes, it may be he is ignorant of his royalty, his dignified position above others. Either way, it is extremely pitiable. Unfortunately, that is what many Christians do today. They are extremely rich but prefer to live like church rats. After all, that is what their leaders teach them. What a shame.

You already know you have a spirit wife who still exercises its spiritual legal right of ownership over you as a result of some sins in you.

As long as your life is not right with Christ, the greatest mountain moving, earth shattering, universe shaking prayer will not help you. Even when the demon is cast out, it will look for other demons worse and stronger than it to try and reclaim your soul. They can only do that when you return to your sins. This is where daily repentance is vital among other things.

Like someone rightly said, give your life to Christ, examine yourself daily to see if you're living right or not in Christ, ask God to expel every evil spirit troubling your life, then use your authority as a child of God to send them packing, repent daily, feed on the Word daily, read books on the believer's authority (suggestion to help you grow strong spiritually), and be very prayerful.

The outcome of this battle has already been declared long ago - victory is yours through Christ.

Jeromejnr:
Chai! your case is strong.

I wonder how Peter must have paid his taxes at that time.

Hahahaha

I can't stop laughing. The guy case strong gan.

That Peter said, "Silver and gold, I have none" has been taken to mean Christians are called to live a life of poverty. Chai, my people perish for lack of knowledge.

Little wonder they attack and villify Christians who truly exercise their rights in Christ, especially the right of financial wealth through faith.

Christians who really know who they are in Christ, what Christ accomplished for them on the cross should always say to themselves, "I can never be poor. It is impossible for me to be poor." This should be their daily slogan while they work towards it in faith.

Before God created Adam and Eve, He had already placed everything they needed in the garden of Eden. It was a paradise such that all the wealth of today cannot compare. He created Adam and Eve to enjoy the work of His hands. They did not struggle to get anything because God did not create them to toil and suffer. Life was easy.

However, Adam sinned, lost the comfort of paradise, and began to toil just to eat. That is, his first struggle to survive began after the Fall: the struggle to eat, to keep warm, to clothe himself and his family, to please his wife Eve...etc.

Man struggling to survive was not God's original plan. His plan was and is for man to enjoy the wealth He has created for them. He doesn't want Man to struggle to get wealth.

God already knew Adam would fall, and He already had the solution to restore Man to his original position he lost in the paradise which is by sending Jesus Christ to the world when the time was ripe.

God did not send Jesus Christ immediately after the Fall because God works according to precision of timing which is called 'The Fullness of Time' or the appointed time.

So Jesus came and died at the appointed time or according to God's timing in His calendar of future events. What Jesus did is that He took the place of fallen Man, became poverty, and became sin and died so that Man would take His place and become rich and righteous and live for Him. It was a transaction of some sort where He purchased Man with His blood but suffered the consequences of the transaction so that Man would once again live without struggle, without stress, blameless.

Therefore, by His death, we are rich, we are righteous. We are free from the curse of poverty and sin by the shed blood of our Elder Brother, the First born of God, Jesus Christ.

So, you can imagine my surprise to hear someone say we are meant to be poor because Peter said he did not have gold and silver to give a lame man. Shows that many profess to be Christians but are really unbelievers as far as God's promises are concerned which is why they never rise up and do exploits for God all their lives till they leave the earth. These are the kind of Christians who the devil is not bothered about since they both are on the same page.

Of such, I won't even argue with. If they believe the death of Christ calls them to a life of poverty, let them live a poverty stricken life. It is their cup of tea, not mine. All I know is just as it is impossible for death to hold God even when He came in the flesh, so it is impossible for me to be poor because Christ died for me, therefore I am rich.

olajonzin:
It the dreams I always I had

I strongly believe it means you will be a pastor. Maybe you have the Calling of God, who knows? Try going to see a trustworthy Pastor who operates in the prophetic, if you know one. It may help.

Jeromejnr:
True I agree with you with the pastors forcing it issue.

But the Spirit of God does not initiate it, you have to start by faith. (That is when you've already received it tho).

I remember my own experience that is why I say this.

You are right. There are times when you initiate the flow of tongues by faith.

But the majority of times believers speak in tongues, it happens spontaneously as the Spirit fills them. This is the common way believers speak in tongues.

Nevertheless, experiences differ so I understand your point of view.

I really dislike it when Pastors or spiritual leaders 'pressure' their members to speak in tongues. It is not forced. Such practice is unscriptural. The Spirit of God has to initiate it otherwise you are speaking gibberish.

Many have testified to receiving the gift of tongues where the first time when they spoke the heavenly language, they mustered all their energy to stop its flow, not really understanding why they were speaking it, but this proved abortive because the language kept flowing independent of their will. Some even go as far as shutting their mouths only to discover their efforts are

If it doesn't come naturally through supernatural means, if you don't speak it as words flow from your lips of their own accord, then don't force it. If you do, then you may be speaking anything but tongues.

menesheh:
your irrational meal is now served to you. enjoy

That the complexity of design has an intelligent designer behind it is suddenly.......irrational?

Ishilove:
PREACH!!!

Although I don't know why you even bother.

You see, they are lost but do not know it. They are dead but never suspect it. They are blind but think they see clearly. I can't help but tell them, at least to save some, by God's grace, from walking blindly into the pit of hell. That's why I bother.

Like I always say, the evidence of God's existence is so overwhelming that it is undeniable. Only those with eyes that look but cannot see question the reality of God.

In essence, from what I have distilled from the Op's post, the sole purpose of Christianity is the subjugation of the black race, right?

BRIGHTRIVERS:
Lol i understand..But Afrocandy becoming a Rev.Sister in a country like Nigeria is just not possible considering the criterias one must attain to be ordained a Rev.Sis

Lol. Owkay, I get it now.

BRIGHTRIVERS:
And now i'm Done workin on my mind..d Day Afrocandy repent and become a Rev.Sister dat same day i'll be an atheist

Although I admire your resolve to stand firm in the faith, but don't you think this statement exhibits over confidence?

Over confidence in God is encouraged because God never changes, however, humans do.

History is replete with the vilest sinners who gave their lives to Christ, and notable followers of Christ who fell from the faith.

With God all things are possible - even the genuine repentance of Afrocandy.

You could say something like, "The day scientists discover the evidence of God's existence using tubes, and microscopes and blood sample is the day I become an atheist." Just a suggestion sha.

So let me break my silence concerning my earlier post.

@ weah96, Plaetton, wordcat, iamtewwy, and keenn.

After reading Keenn's comment where he quoted me, it suddenly dawned on me why my post has been grossly misunderstood and this is what I want to address.

You guys misunderstood my post to mean that the people whose stories I advised the Op to read died because they were atheists. That idea, if one ever had it, is not only laughable but also shocking and absurd altogether. Dalaman was the only person who seemed to understand my post but he quoted me only to refute the claims of Dr Eben Alexander.

Everybody dies whether atheist, Christian, Muslim...oh please, I don't even want to dwell on that. It is only common sense.

As regards my post where I quoted atheists who died, you guys hastily overlooked an additional sentence in which I said they gave their lives to Christ. Their 'stories' means their testimonies. They died and came back to life. Their experience of death changed their former opinion of the existence of God - forever. That is why they serve God faithfully today because they have SEEN for themselves that God truly exists and science cannot explain His existence.

If you seek evidence of the existence of God, it has always been there, staring at you. I will tell you why.

You say testimonies cannot be verified yet you know millions of people saying the same thing have no ulterior motive. By reason of their great and swelling number, which cannot be said of any religion on earth, the argument of 'joint collaboration to spread the Gospel with false stories' has been abolished by time, space, distance and age. It is utterly impossible to conceive such notion given these extremely limiting or hindering factors.

Secondly, the argument of hallucination, that is, a huge population of people all suffering the same hallucination throughout the ages, particularly Christians, is impossible to hold and ridiculously illogical. First, it would have to be attributed to an agent responsible for such hallucination. Till today, the said agent of hallucination has remained obscure or unknown. In addition to that, the agents causing such hallucination would be so widespread that they would have to circulate the whole world. Then, the agents would have to strictly select Christians - man, woman, boy, girl, child - as their hosts, and finally, they must have been in existence for 2000 years now. Merely reading this shows tons of error behind this reasoning. That is not all. What about the selection of 'Christians' who were but atheists and pagans or idol worshipers when they witnessed Christ? The hallucination argument is a futile attempt to discredit the testimonies of people who have witnessed God.

Is that enough verification?



If there is true conviction in the deities of the various religions of the world, why are their adherents not witnessing to the whole world of the reality of their gods in the various geographical locations of the world as the existence of God is witnessed today by countless number of people or Christians of different races, ages, and backgrounds? Islam is the most widely practiced religion in the world yet you can never find one among them who claims to have seen Allah or had conversation with him as hundreds of thousands of Christians have done and do with the Father or Jesus or the Holy spirit.


It remains that if you refuse to believe the existence of God, it is not because there is no evidence of God; it is because you detest the idea of a God to whom you will give an account of how you spent your life on earth, and who punishes or rewards you accordingly. In that case, God is just and righteous in His judgment because it is what you want that He gives you.

BRIGHTRIVERS:
Yu jst gave me hope brother! Thnx for your contribution!

You're welcome, brother. To God be the glory. Never be moved from the Faith. We know and we know that Jesus lives forever.

Atheists may argue, that's fine. But when death approaches, when they die in their unbelief, I hope they argue their way out of hell.

onetrack:
All of these are just very clever fakers. They have been exposed as frauds many times.

Clearly, you've not met someone with the gift of prophecy neither have you met a prophet.

BRIGHTRIVERS and Youngpol,
have you read the stories of the following former atheists who died and why they gave their lives to Christ?


Thomas Welch. He fell from a great height and died instantly.

Howard Storm. Had a fatal disease and died after a nurse told him that a surgeon could not be found that day to treat him even though she expressed hope that one would be found the next day.

Ian McCormack. He went swimming with some friends in Mauritius, was stung by a box-jellyfish and died later.

Dr Eben Alexander. A neurosurgeon and atheist. Went into three weeks of coma when he succumbed to meningitis. All that time in coma, his brain was dead, yet he had consciousness.

These are just a few but are eye openers to let you know that atheists bask in ignorance, that is, until they come face to face with reality, especially through death, and all their argument against God's existence crumble into pieces.

Of course, there are former atheists who didn't need death to convince them of the truth in the Bible, but who can win an argument against death?

Jeromejnr:
Common sense gotten from scriptures.

No one could enter heaven until Jesus had paid the price.

So all that died went to Sheol. Sheol is divided into two:

The place of comfort and the place of Torment. The place of comfort was later called Abraham's Bosom.

So everyone that died went to Sheol. Wether the person went to the place of torment or comfort, only God knows.

I liked your post. You are very knowledgeable, my friend. My aim of visiting this thread was to feed my eyes and keep my comment to myself until I saw your comment. Very nice.

There is more to say about this subject but I'm in no mood for argument. Besides, Op has already made up his mind about the possible place Adam is spending his eternity. Seeing that, why waste my comment?

Anyway, it's nice to know you know what many don't know, and don't want to know.

Man's inhumanity to man

wellsaid:
I need Foxe's Book of Martyrs. I live around sango otta.

I have it in pdf format. If interested I can upload it.

My favourite Christian books:

The Final Quest by Rick Joyner

Revealing Heaven l and ll by Kat Kerr

The Fourth Dimension by Pastor David Yonggi Cho

The Heavens Opened and The Priestly Bride by Anna Rountree

The Final Frontier by Dr Richard Kent

The Left Behind series by Tim Lahaye and Jerry B Jenkins

Good Morning Holy Spirit by Benny Hinn

The 6th Sense Faith by John Osteen

Intra Muros by Rebecca Springer

GooseBaba:
"death which is permanent is not able to hold him "..Bros you read wetin you write so.?

If death is impossible to hold him, then that makes his sacrifice null and void. If you know before hand that your love one would die in front of you and ressurect in 3 days would you cry? If yes? Cry for what? the guy just make him mama cry anyhow for nothing..

In other words, the act of selfless sacrifice is null and void if the object of sacrifice is replaced in the future. Please read my post above.

musKeeto:
In what context for does Death mean temporary sacrifice? Jeez...

In what context does sacrifice mean permanence? That is what I'm after. Show me the definition of sacrifice as being permanent in nature, then I'll know you have a point.

Jesus already knew He would be raised from the dead. That did not stop Him from 'giving' His life. Last time I checked, giving something you would ordinarily keep to others for their good and satisfaction is sacrifice. If I gave you my plate of food so that you will find satisfaction in eating, does my act of giving become lending just because I have more food in the pot?

Just listen to yourself. I give my life for a brother. I died. It is a sacrifice. I give my life for a brother. I died. Some days later, by some inexplicable means, I came back to life. My action of giving up my life is not a sacrifice because I came back to life. By your argument, you atheists define sacrifice as the loss of something that can never be regained or the act of giving up something that can never be returned, isn't it?

I have told you guys, and I say it again, whether you define sacrifice as permanent loss where temporary loss is lending or you define it as the loss of something that can never be regained or the act of giving up something that can never be returned, since your definition of sacrifice and your argument of the same are in stark contrast with each other, and judging from your inability to tell the difference between what constitutes an act of sacrifice and what constitutes an act of lending, I hereby rest my case.