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mamboroo:
I always look at my life...from past todate!
Am always sad despite off all the effort of knowing and loving God
I always ends living as if I don't have God or even a little angel to protect me in this world
I wish to live a decent and happy life because I know for sure that the God am serving is real sure real but unfortunately I can't reach my goals.
I don't want to live in bad life ways like prostitution or what what but every door in my life is closed!
Why is God so silence why Is he tired now
Or is he not real now!!! Nooo HE can't be fake for sure I know HE really exist but why HE can't help me ...why?
I know am not that much righteous but he always forgives our mistakes
Yes HE sometimes a punisher!and I know I deserve punishment but this is too much I see.a father will not punish his child forever
Pls all naira member can you pray for me maybe GOD will change his mind for me
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Am suffering a lot

Along with other pieces of advice that you should dust yourself up and start again, I will advise you to stay strong. That is all you need to overcome. Be a good soldier of Christ that doesn't faint in hardship.

We all have difficulties and problems in life. Life is unfair but you can do something about it. While you lament about your situation, there are millions all over the world that will be extremely glad to fill your shoes.

The road to success has many steps, so walk this road a step at a time. You're not alone. God is taking those steps with you whether you know it or not. Make a plan of your goals in a list, work towards them, be determined, forget others who have made it and work for yourself. Tell life you are stronger. Be an inspiration to the world with this golden opportunity of hardship. If life takes something from you take it back with interest, then you'll see that life is beautiful no matter what you've been through.

Above all, seek God seriously. Take it as the greatest business of your life pursuits. You have no idea who you are. You're greater and stronger than you can imagine. Don't peg a time frame on God's answers to your prayers. That is not faith. Don't expect God to answer your prayers within six or ten months. Faith stays with the requests no matter the length of time till they manifest physically. That's why you'll always have the desires of your heart even if your faith is as small as an orange seed. Nobody will give you the satisfaction you need in life apart from God.

Your story is titled From Prison To Palace. On this note, I'll say see you at the top.

boboLIL:
oboy go to hell.....and ur devil ur father there

I really don't understand this response. Will you be satisfied and happy to see him in hell? Is that how you show love to people? This is not Christlike, my brother.

Fearlesschicken, many people believe in God but that doesn't make them Christians. The Bible says even the demons believe God exists and they tremble.

Who is a Christian? A Christian is a follower or disciple of Christ. To be a follower of Christ, it means you have surrendered your life to Jesus Christ, and that you believe in His death and resurrection as recorded in the Bible.

The questions now are: have you given your life to Christ, and do you believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

A Christian is different from a passive believer of the existence of God. Your calling yourself a Christian depends on the answers to the questions above.

This is one among many reasons why people should not delay giving their lives to Jesus Christ today. Death may come knocking at your door that time you least expect it or when you've a million reasons not to expect it.

RIP to the dead. Hope they died in the Christ, otherwise...hmmm...otherwise...

Dreams play a very important part in our lives. They are images that represent our thoughts, our present, our past, and sometimes our future, reminding us, warning us, replaying our thoughts or present state of affairs. Dreams happen when we sleep. True, dreams have their source in the brain, but a lot of dreams have proved to the contrary the scientific theory of the brain as the only source of dream.
For example, when Jesus was but a child and Herod tried to kill Him, an angel appeared to Joseph in a dream and directed him to take the child to Egypt. That was before the massacre of children in the same age bracket of Jesus. If these images were seen as illusions, Jesus would have died as a baby. However, the dream warned the parents ahead of time to secure Jesus' safety. In the book of Acts, God, through a symbolic dream, told Peter that His salvation extends to the Gentiles as well. There are numerous personal and non-personal experiences that disprove the idea of the brain as the only source of dreams though I can't narrate them all as that's not my focus.


The only way in which dreams exemplify the nature of death is that they show that consciousness is not entirely related to or dependent on the brain. Therefore, if the brain is not the only source of consciousness or awareness, then it is very possible that consciousness continues after the brain has ceased all activities, then the belief in nothingness after the cessation of brain activity (or death) is false.

Weah96:
But every immoral action in the bible is regarded as sin. The final step could be the fifth consecutive murder, or it could be as simple as telling a lie.

Your next lie might just be the one to convict you.

No one is perfect. Sin we must even though we have surrendered our lives to the leadership of Christ. We can count on the shed blood of Jesus Christ to wash our sins away whenever we need it.

But, there is such a sin, a grievous sin that seals a person for judgment. This kind of sin is evil, calculated, done regardless of the knowledge of the consequences, willful, very wicked, devilish, destructive, against what God holds very sacred. Not all sins fall under this category. The ones that do are so few in number that when they are carried out there is no question of remorse. Whoever is guilty of any of such sins has sealed his fate before God. Examples are blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, receiving the mark of the beast on the right hand or forehead, bowing down to the image of the beast, rejecting the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ by willfully renouncing them forever from your life or making a formal statement to that effect, committing willful murder to satisfy your need for revenge or bloodlust even after you have given your life to Christ, knowing that life is held very sacred before God...and the likes. Whoever does any of these in ignorance, with the exception of taking the mark of the beast or bowing down to the image of the beast, will still be pardoned. But where they are done after having knowledge of the Word of God, then their fate in hell is sealed.

"For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment..." Hebrews 10:26-27

"If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say he should pray about that. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death." 1 John 5:16-17

Weah96:
What if the murderer is truly remorseful? He intended to outsmart the system, but felt real remorse after doing the killing?

Grace not deeds. Who are you to convict someone?

I don't think his belated remorse has that power to overwrite his action because he already had knowledge of the truth before committing the act. He already knew the Word of God concerning that act. He already knew the consequences but he willfully did it. There's such a fatal step a man will take that will make him reserved by God for judgment even though he later shows remorse for his actions.

However, who am I to judge? It is between him and God. I've only said what I know as written in the Word of God.

kolajamesjnr:
Atleast stick to ur arguement kindly explain "whatever a man sows he shall reap"

See my post above.

fearlesschicken:
He sows murder and reaps heaven after forgiveness? Nice reply dude

It would have been better not to reply that than saying such!

Let me put it this way. If the evil deed was done in ignorance of the Word of God, there is forgiveness of sins. If, however, after knowing the truth of the Gospel, knowing the commandments and love of God, you decide to take advantage of grace by perpetrating murder to your satisfaction with the intention of asking forgiveness later, you've willfully sown destruction and you'll reap eternal destruction in hell. In this case, there no longer remains any sacrifice for sin - Hebrews 10:26.

Now do you understand my answer to him?

TheDauraMallam:
I can't believe you just wrote the bolded.


So, in essence, you're saying if I decide to kill all the moslems alive right now, both singles, married, pregnant women and children, I am saved onxe I acknowledge Jesus as the Lord and savior, right?

I weep for humanity.

Don't be deceived. God is not mocked for whatever a man sows he will reap.

Anas09, quite true. Similar to what I said. Many are already doomed for eternity in hell, not because they did not hear the gospel preached to them but because their minds are already made up not to let any ray of light of the gospel into their dark hearts. Their path leads to destruction. Unless God is merciful to them, their condemnation in hell is just a matter of time.

Jozzy4:
Brainwashed ! Did scripture go ahead to say the people of sodom and Gomorah died and went to hellfire ? Did it ? Uhm , did it ? Ask urself : did i read that Ananias and Saphira died and went to hellfire or it just my imaginations ?

Is there anything like King Herod went to hellfire after his death in the scriptures ? Is there anything like pharaoh and the egyptians drown in the sea after which they were taken to hellfire ?

Answer those questions.

I know your kind. You're one of those who preach eternal security and eternal love of God that can never condemn anyone in hell. Wishful thinking. I have news for you - not breaking news but gospel news. Hell is a reality, a real place somewhere in the spiritual realm where souls who find themselves there are doomed for all eternity. The Bible talks about hell, old testament and new testament. The bible talks about a rich man in hell and also about God condemning the unbelievers and sinners in hell. Be wise.

krattoss:
so u believe in god out of fear??


I seeee..


Tell him he is a slowpoke and a scumberg..

One day, you will stand before Him, then you can tell Him that. Your appointment wih God has already been booked even before the creation of the world. You will surely meet Him, good or bad. It's a guarantee.

It is better to serve God out of fear so that you will be wise than rebel against Him and be the historic fool. No insult intended.

musKeeto:
Hi CaptainJune. Nice user name.

Would you define righteousness as acting according to God's will?

Thanks for the compliment but, seriously, it will be most unfair to the creator of this thread to entertain questions not related to the op. So, I believe you will understand if I decline giving any answer to your question.

oneda:
Don't worry bro you don't have too long to find out whether its true or not. At most 100 years out of which I believe you've spent at least 20.
then reality will dawn.

Hahaha. This is very funny. Eventually, they will not only find out, they will also confess that Jesus is Lord, willingly or unwillingly.

Tydies:
There can never be a hell when there is a God. He will never allow his children to go thru torment and torture. He is ever loving,ever dependent and ever forgiving.

Mehn, you are deceived to think that God is only a God of love. He is also a consuming fire. Sodom and Gomorrah, the world during the time of Noah, Pharaoh and the Egyptians during the time of Moses, Ananias and Saphira, King Herod, and so many many more were examples of God's wrath. Hell is real.

johnydon22:
Pheeew ok i think there is need for me to break it down since obviously my choice of words confuses you entirely..

There is a difference between:

Morality is the basis of eternity and
Eternity is the basis of morality..

Just like there is a difference between "Gold is the source of silver and silver is the source of Gold"

I believe you can now correct yourself accordingly and stop rubbing your own confusions on someone's assertions. . Alas it all boils down to what you choose to understand

Lolzz. Johnnydon22, don't push me to give you lessons in the English Language. Don't. I have the time and energy but not the desire, my desire being checked by my sense of propriety. I don't say this with any sense of pride but to let you know I'm not new to literature of any format or subject. You don't just go accusing people of misapprehension when you're the source.

Besides, if I did that your thread will be cluttered with so much irrelevant posts that your op will be buried in their accumulation.

Like I said, needless argument is not my thing. Have fun.

Weah96:
How do u know who a believer is as opposed to a non believer?

Well, let's see if the much vaunted bible has anything to say:

Mark 16:15-17



Can you perform any of these signs? Say the truth.

Answering this will only result in shifting the focus of the thread's message further.

johnydon22:
I think it is obvious the mistake rests on you for not knowing when a post implies or the difference between..

Morality being the basis of eternity and Reward or Punishment being the basis of morality...

So why don't you educate yourself to have a better cognitive ability so as not to always swim in your own mistakes..

My post implied people taking Reward and punishment as basis for their morality..and this includes every branch of theism every religion and not addressing one.

I am responsible for what i write, what you understand is totally your responsibility

Here you go again. Reward and punishment in heaven or hell, are they not eternal? You know what, whatever makes you sleep better. Could counter your post by quoting more statements from the op that contradict this post of yours but I'd rather not. It is not my desire to draw or to be drawn into needless argument. Besides, your article doesn't have this idea as its central focus; it is just a sub topic so why bother prolonging the issue?

Aaah, of course, the lazy writer's creed. Anyway, have fun.

johnydon22:
And captainjune just proved you to be very very very right.!!!

Lol. The truth has to be said even if it has been repeated over and over like a national anthem.

johnydon22:
I need not even add or say anything on this... Your post says it all...

You can now read the post again to understand what it really says because clearly you are lost to the topic..

While I addressed your underlying theme of morality as the basis of eternity, you'll do well to expunge the following from your article to avoid misleading
your readers.

johnydon22:
The idea of it from the questioners perspective is

"Since you have no God who will burn you in hell or reward you in heaven then why do you bother being good?



"So without the idea of religion coming up with the concept of a God who is willing to roast you in a literal fire forever these people won't bother to be good?"





Before i proceed on why an atheist, agnostic, deist or pantheist are good without adhering to the idea of threats to do so


e.g1
If you are good because you want to make heaven, you are not good because you want to be good but because you want to earn a reward after all, you only are good for your own gain... We call that selfishness... Is that goodness in entirety??

e.g2
If you are good because you fear hell, you want to escape hell. You are only good because you want to escape punishment, you just want to save your own skin after all..
that still is a selfish reason... is that goodness in entirety??

e.g3
One that is good not because they want a heaven or fear a hell but because they want good to happen, because they care and because they are empathic and compassionate towards others?

Anybody reading this wouldn't want me to go any further to see that One be it a believer or an unbeliever do not need the promise of a heaven or the threat of a hell to be good..One can be good for goodness sake.


If you are good to others because of the promise of heaven, it shows how little you think of others.

if you are good because of hell, it shows how little you think of yourself. . .


I have once told a pastor "You cannot tell me about morality until you and i agree on what we think is moral, because subjecting a little child to the psychological abuse and fear by threatening with a horrifying burning flames in order to instill morality is horrifying, disturbing, wrong, wicked and immoral to me..."

Sometimes, when you guys put up a topic or make a comment, it baffles me that you don't look at it objectively to edit sentences or statements that may imply a meaning other than what you intended to pass across yet you take offense when someone points those statements to you.

frank317:
Nice one there John.
Unfortunately Christians will purposely misunderstand all you wrote. They will tell you your goodness is like a filty rag to their vengeful and murderous God.

You've just successfully confused yourself since your post suggests that you cannot tell the difference between goodness and righteousness.

Johnnydon22, God does not condemn or reward on the basis of your goodness or wickedness. Faith in the death of Jesus on the cross is the basis of salvation, not morality.

You can be the kindest, meekest, humblest person in the world but still end up in hell because your spirit is still dead because of sin. Only the blood of Jesus Christ can wash the sins away, make your spirit alive, make you righteous through belief in Him, not through your works of goodness.

Religions of the world strive to attain righteousness through good deeds, but to God, man's righteousness is filthy rags before Him. The righteousness that qualifies one for heaven is simple belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. As you can see, that righteousness is not ours, it belongs to God. It is not of works of goodness but by grace. That is the message of the Gospel.

No matter the amount of revelation given by God to persuade men to repent, no matter the number of people who unexpectedly rise from death, after being declared dead medically, and testify of the reality of hell and heaven, no matter the flood of testimonies all saying the same thing, stiff-necked people doomed from the beginning, who are destined for destruction by their unbelief will still refuse to believe eternal perdition. They'll say it's hallucination, a figment of hyper active imagination, that there's no evidence to prove the existence of hell or heaven and the likes as if there's anything scientific about the commandments of God or surrendering one's life to Christ.

I do understand that while they still have life, they have hope. It is the work of the Holy Spirit to change them. If they resist the Spirit of grace, it is solely their choice. Our work as believers is just to act as messengers of the Gospel. If they believe it or not is not our problem. We've done our duty by informing them. That's all that matters.

nobilis:
I'm sorry to say but most of your facts aren't in line with reality.

Jehovah is the name of the Christian God.
Yahweh (YHWH) is the name of the Jewish God.
Allah is the name of the Muslim God.

You cannot say Jehovah and Yahweh is the same God because their characteristics are very very different. Study the Jewish Talmud and Torah and then study the bible. U will notice these glaring differences.
Moreover, the Jewish God has more in common with the Muslim God than with the Christian God.

I believe your knowledge of God is purely hearsay, not gotten by study. Even a blind man can tell the difference between the Christian God and Allah.

Secondly, you're talking about revelation. God revealed himself to this person and to that other person. Most of these revelations are not verifiable. We just have to take the words of those who claim they experienced God.

Even what is supposed to be the ultimate revelation of the christian God is still in doubt: the existence of Jesus hasn't been proven beyond reasonable doubt.

So don't bring that logic here.

In a court of law, in the absence of material or physical evidence, the testimony of an eye witness to an event is admissible as evidence. You do not tell the witness to provide physical evidence to verify their testimony. It's simply unheard of. The testimony of their experience is a key factor in deciding a case. Of course, they have to be examined and cross-examined so as to be certain their witness is true and not fabricated. Nonetheless, their testimony becomes as important as physical evidence.

Again, when conducting an investigation into a matter, for example, to determine the whereabouts of a missing person, you question people who you think may have an idea where he may be, or who were the last persons he spent time with before he went missing, or who he last called and so forth. Here, the answers given, true or false, are based on experience, not physical evidence. However, in order to solve the case, the investigator acts on some of the answers gathered, those he deems helpful, while also looking for physical evidence to support his theories of the case of the missing person. He does not discard the testimonial evidence he has gathered because he knows they are of prime importance as physical evidence.

If testimonial evidence of something is as important in weight as physical evidence of the same thing, why do you discard it? Much knowledge we have gathered today in this world have their root in the testimony of others. Why discard testimony when it is naturally meant to replace physical evidence?

About the historical existence of Jesus Christ, how do you prove the existence of Alexander the Great and Socrates beyond reasonable doubt?

Very inspiring read! Has double 'very' in excellence. This is the topic that is of the greatest interest to me next to the Bible.

I never knew there's a believer in nairaland who thinks the same way I do, who practices love daily like I do, who sees the tremendous benefits in putting the needs of others first before self.

Please permit me to add my experience of learning to love and what I've learnt to this top class article.

A long time ago, through a book, God planted in me the seed of love. I learnt the meaning of the God-kind of love. I learned that love is rooted in our action, not feelings. Feelings or emotions are not necessarily involved in exercising this kind of love. It begins with a decision and is expressed through actions. The absence of feelings or emotions doesn't mean one should be a robot or zombie mindlessly practicing love. It only means you do not need to have any special kind of feeling of love for the object of love like the romantic love; all that's required is your action demonstrating love for others.

Though it looked noble in writing, however, it was very difficult to put into practice, understandably. My flesh always wanted to have its way. I tried and tried to practice love, to be selfless, to make the wants, desires, happiness and satisfaction of others take first place before mine but kept failing, I kept going in the opposite direction of that which I intended to do.

Still practicing love as my flesh permitted, I cried to God to give me love, to give me love to love others selflessly, that I cannot of myself love as I wanted.

That was the beginning of my journey of love. I cannot say the result was instantaneous, but I grew in love.

Though I grew in the grace and ability to love, I still had problem choosing to act in love in certain situations. This kept me looking for a condensed or simplified explanation of love to encompass every situation, or simply put, that can be easily applied in every situation without appearing ambiguous or unsuitable in application.

Then, one day, a thought hit me that changed my life forever. The thought that I should do everything because of love suddenly struck me. I was amazed. I had never thought about loving others this way. While I pondered this, I understood that all God has always done for us is because of love, Jesus chose to die for our sins because of love, one can choose not to be angry because of love, we overlook a multitude of wrongs because of love, we obey the commandments of God because of love. In fact doing anything or everything because of love is the very core of walking in love, doing everything because of love is love itself.

Thus, I learned two important principles of love through this experience:

1. It is the Holy Spirit who gives us the ability to love. We can never fully love unconditionally as we ought without God's help.

2. To walk in love, do everything because of love. That way, your actions will be an expression of love as well as having the pure motive of love behind them.

Now, though I love others better than when I began (not bragging or anything), I'm still very much imperfect. I still fall sometimes, but walking in this knowledge of love has made my Christian walk progressed in leaps and bounds. And I'm still learning, and will continue learning to love till I leave this earthly tent. Love is an endless journey.

Long post. I know. However, I wrote this to help others who God may lead to this thread, those who God may have planted the seed of love in them but who may face similar difficulties I faced when I first set out to practice love. In all, glory be to God. He is the author of my walk in love. All the credits for where I am today belongs to him and not a penny of the credits belongs to me.

Is she a kid? Didn't she know Islam has severe restrictions on the female folks before she converted? May God help her.

menesheh:
Very easy to copy and paste the particular English meaning of faith from your previous posts since you claimed to have answered it.

All my posts have already defined what I mean by faith in the existence of God as opposed to blind faith or ignorant belief and trust which are factors responsible for making religious fanatics or extremists of various religions of the world.

Faith in God should not be blind or stupid. God Himself is more than willing to lead anyone who lets Him to the level of total and complete trust in Him. In the Bible, you'll discover that Moses' faith in God was as a result of God proving Himself to the Egyptians, Enoch had faith in God because he walked with God three hundred years before God took him, Abraham believed that God was able to perform whatever He said because he knew God, Joshua, Caleb, Samuel, Noah, David, Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah, John the Baptist, Peter, John, Paul, etc etc all had faith based on their personal and historical experiences of the ability and power of God. It was not blind. They all had very great and tangible reason(s) to put their complete trust in God who is unseen but whose acts are always seen.

If a Christian, believing to be full of Biblical faith, decided to walk on water because he read that Jesus Christ and Peter did, and as such he would be able to perform the same feat, then such Christian would be a personification of stupidity because he would not be operating in faith in that case; he would be operating in fatal presumption and ignorance.

Yet, the faith the Christian thought himself to possess and the faith the prophets and apostles of the Old and New Testament operated on have the same English definition - complete trust in someone or someone; belief in a religious doctrine or a deity based on spiritual conviction rather than proof. So what was the problem with the presumptuous Christian's faith? Simple, his faith was not based on reason.

How? How was Peter's faith different from the faith of this Christian if both exercised the same measure of faith, and especially when this Christian's faith even seemed to surpass Peter's? This is why people should learn to read the Bible to understand it and not just read it as if it were a novel. When Peter walked on water, he didn't just take the decision to walk on water. He asked Christ to tell him to come to Him if really He was the one approaching them on water. Then Christ gave Peter a reason to walk on water, Christ told him to come to Him. That was why Peter walked on water towards Jesus, otherwise he wouldn't have attempted it even though he had previously cast out demons through the same faith.

Now, do you see why the dictionary definition of faith does not cut it in explaining faith in God?

menesheh:
Everybody will like to win noble price and be popular. Miracle can't withstand scientific test of which many have been carried out. If what you termed miracle do happened, don't just say "it is a miracle" because you don't understand how it happened, it is laziness. Get to work, ask questions, collect data and evaluate it, i bet my shoe, at the end, you will know the processes that leads to such phenomenon.

In all honesty, this is a really naïve statement as regards spiritual matters manifesting in the physical. Can you evaluate and give a scientific explanation to the 'psychic' phenomenon? How about you dissect the human anatomy to study the mechanism of the gift of prophecy among others? All I'm trying to tell you is that spiritual matters cannot be verified the same way physical matters are done.

Man for the greater part of the past millenia has engaged in such unsubstantiated labouring of whatever that looks confusing and strange to them as miracle or even god, to the extent of worshipping those things. With science, we now know those things and have stopped labouring anything we don't uet understand as miracle from the unknown.

You said it. Faith in God, as well as the products of such faith, is not confusing, and is not strange.
When will you understand that science is grossly incapable of providing logical explanation for every phenomenon or event in this world or universe?

hahn:
I am only responsible for what I write. You are responsible for what you understand

So much for intelligent folks. Not at all disappointed. It was expected as typical of atheists.

menesheh:
I didn't see any English definition of faith in your previous comment. I noticed that you are intentionally dodging my question.



cheer

May have been overlooked or answered previously. Either way, do point out the question "in question".

hahn:
What can I say?

I guess you can never really take away the human need to believe in something. Nigerians have found solace in religion because it, amongst other things, encourages us to shun our responsiblity. When something good happens, it must be god, and when something happens, it just has to be the devil. Nigerians have to be number one in the ranking of people who refuse to accept responsibility for their actions. If it is not the government it is god and if it isn't god then it is the devil.

This same god has failed to reveal itself or repeat all it's "miracles", at least the ones in the bible and other religious story books, in over 2000years. When malaria was a major epidemic, and it still is, killing thousands of people, "it" never performed any miracle nor healed anyone. In its love, as its followers will like us to believe, it let millions of kids and people die. Then a set of humans decided to look into this problem "themselves" until they were able to come up with a cure and thus saved millions of lives. Needless to mention that countries that don't expect god to solve their problems have progressed and broken greater barriers than Africans, who god seems to be only concerned with either sending them to hell or preparing "paradise" with lots of singing jobs, and who still live in abject poverty.

Until the average Nigerian understands that he is solely responsible for whatever goes on in his life, we will continue to be faced with people who consider "believing" in something as evidence that that "something" exists.

Of course, there's no amount of miraculous evidence or proof of the supernatural that will separate the natural man from his ignorance.

He never looks for it neither does he investigate the claims but he is quick to condemn the testimonies of millions all over the world all saying the same thing.

Moreover, it's absurd to assume that responsibility is tied to spiritual matters. That people peg every event on either God or the devil or the government is the most careless statement I ever read showing a great absence of effort in thinking this through. And I thought I've heard it all.

menesheh:
The bolded part of your post caught my attention immensely, faith is the evidence of the unseen . Waw. . Are you misunderstanding faith to predictions based on evidence and data collected.

Here we are, stocked in a vast deep universe, with Phenomena we as human couldn't phantom out the causes of those things. Human with its cognitive reasoning prowess has created too many fantasies through the observable and non-observable phenomenal happenings before them and outside their reach. The question that arises is "how can we, the greater primate distinguish between facts of a phenomenon to fantasy of the same phenomenon. Are we to apply faith, or use observable evidence to evaluate those things. Applying faith implys accepting anything atall posited by human mind without censor.

Faith as you said being the evidence of the unseen, is not a pathway to finding the fact of something. Lets say there is a murder in a house, can u apply faith by either saying that it is not murder, or start looking for clues to finding what actually happened.

Using faith as the evidence for the unseen maybe illusional. A magician performing in a stage may use tricks, accepting his tricks as true with the application of faith may be illusional. We can start believing anything with faith since faith is the evidence of those unseen fantasies.

Read my posts to understand the meaning of faith (in God) as opposed to gullibility and fantasy and illusion. They're all quite different terms and are not related to the faith I'm talking about.