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achorladey:
That's now your palaver to sort. I asked you to show me the ONE HOPE in those SCRIPTURES cited. You cannot. Na you want CONTRARY explanation on NOTHING .

So their is no contary opinion that both Rev 21:3,4 and John 3:6 are related to Everlasting life ?

achorladey:
I thought I was in SOUP before NI? Simplified EDITION QUESTIONS. Hahahaahahaa. Human nature, spirit nature in Titus 1:2. Hahaahahah .

Yes, both are about everlasting life and 100% related to Titus 1:2, Contrary opinion, explain the two verses and show us how they are not related to Everlasting life

achorladey:
"We" know? Who are the WE?

Where is it Stated in Titus 1:2 that SOME spend the ONE HOPE of EVERLASTING LIFE in HEAVEN and SOME on EARTH. Is it NOT one HOPE of EVERLASTING LIFE? Hahahahahahaaha

If you have a contrary opinion explain John 3:6 and Rev 21:3,4 , then tell me how they are not related to everlasting life.

Don't be an empty brass making useless noise

CAPTIVATOR:
We know the one hope is EVERLASTING LIFE .

Some spend theirs on earth ( Rev 21:3,4)

Others spend theirs as Spirits in heaven ( John 3:6 )

How exactly are they not in the one hope of everlasting life ?

Cc: acholadey, Jozzy4 , Barristter07

This is a simplified version of the question and prove I demanded from achorladey . Or else he remain an empty brass making noise

achorladey:
Where is HUMAN NATURE and SPIRIT NATURE in Titus 1:2.

You think I don't know where the ONE HOPE is COMING from abi.

Okay explain the two verses as it relate to to everlasting life mentioned in Titus 1:2 .

achorladey:
Prove what ooooooooo. Where is the ONE HOPE recorded in those scriptures cited?

Titus 1:2 no dey go any where as it seems.

We know the one hope is EVERLASTING LIFE .

Some spend theirs on earth ( Rev 21:3,4)

Others spend theirs as Spirits in heaven ( John 3:6 )

How exactly are they not in the one hope of everlasting life ?

achorladey:
Quote the hope recorded in Those two scriptures make I see oooooo.

Rev 21:3,4 Mankind on earth forever

John 3 vs 6 " What is born of spirit IS SPIRIT " like God nature . God IS SPIRIT John 4:24

We have a section human nature, and the other spirit nature.

Are both outside the hope of everlasting life ?


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achorladey:
Last last na TWO HOPES you want to preach that's why your brother Barristter07 said the ONE HOPE is based on NEW HEAVEN and NEW EARTH in other to preach and TEACH your 2 in 1 hope. Hahahahahaha.

Na ping pong you still dey play, you go play BADMINTON join.

Prove that both scriptures cited by Jozzy4 are outside the one hope of everlasting life ooooo ?

achorladey:
How many HOPE does Christians have according to Titus 1:2? Explain what? Is Revelation 21:3,4 and John 3:6 about the ONE HOPE. Hahahahahaha.

Yes they are about the one hope, prove that both scriptures are OUTSIDE the hope of everlasting life .

You are in soup man

Jozzy4:
Exactly , Humans will live forever on earth and the tent of God will be with them ( Rev 21:3,4 ) simple and clear . They enjoy the same single hope of everlasting life .

You are already playing ping pong with their brains . They are caught unexpected , their initial plan failed woefully .

Jozzy4:
Am just getting to know unrighteous person's are anointed too, Interesting .


Captivator, Your sarcasm is top notch

Abi , Proverb 26:5 says, ANSWER a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.

Jozzy4:
So John the baptist and the great crowd won't have everlasting life ?

No actually hope of everlasting life is only for the anointed, even the many UNRIGHTEOUS person's that will be ressurected are also anointed, so even UNRIGHTEOUS person's are anointed . Because everlasting life cannot be given to someone that's not anointed . ( act 24:15)

chrmn1:

He was chosen before He came to earth (past) but no matter how far back he was chosen, that event was preceded by His glory state which was also a spiritual reality.

Father said he chosed his SERVANT. ( Isa 42:1) he wasn't even on Earth when this pronouncement was made .

If Jesus was always a servant there would be no need for him to be transformed to the form of a servant.

Define form ? SMH, form of a servant is another way of reffering to human nature. Doesn't rule out that he was a servant in heaven

achorladey:
Hahahahaha...... Titus 1:2 says GOD promised NEW HEAVEN and NEW EARTH long BEFORE the WORLD began. Hahahahaha.

Thank God you cant answer that simple question . you are silenced

Goodbye

achorladey:
You are the wise ONE here oooooo

What did GOD promise in Titus 1:2 oooooo.

New earth or heaven, Do the individuals have that ONE HOPE of everlasting life promised at Titus 1:2?

CAPTIVATOR:
New heaven or New Earth, do the individuals have Everlasting life ??

Answer the question

Barristter07:
New Heaven or Earth, Which one is not made possible by the one hope of everlasting life ?
The burden of proof on you is to show which of new heaven or new earth Is not WITHOUT the one hope of everlasting life.

Just play along bro, He is hanged already

achorladey:

is NEW HEAVEN or NEW EARTH what God promised in Titus 1:2? hahahahahahaha.

is NEW HEAVEN and NEW EARTH HOPE/HOPES?

New heaven or New Earth, do the individuals have Everlasting life ??

achorladey:
Context says TO THE ONE. how many are THEY? Nothing like HOW many are BOUGHT from Mankind in Revelation 2:7.

Here is the link
Okay Paradise of God is where ?

achorladey:
After citing Titus 1:2 your explanation was it is ONE HOPE.

fine and okay Titus didn't state HOPES likewise but HOPE.

You are now stating the.........

NEW HEAVEN and EARTH is based on the HOPE of Everlasting life ( Titus 1:2 ) . Since you are not wise

The WISE ONE, let me ask what did GOD promise from before the WORLD BEGAN according to Titus 1:2?


A new HEAVEN and EARTH or EVERLASTING LIFE

Barry, You are chatting with a slowpoke can you be in the new heaven and earth if you dont have everlasting life ?

achorladey:
Revelation 2:7 that I started from and I believe that your explanation I responded was GROUNDED upon to DIDN'T carry BROUGHT from MANKIND.

To the ONE who CONQUERS? You used Rev 3:12 to try as means of PUTTING a NUMBER.

Context of Rev 2:7 says Paradise of God in heaven . How many are bought from among Mankind to experience this ?

achorladey:
Revelation 21:7 Anyone conquering will inherit THESE THINGS, and I will be his God and he will be my son.

Do we have a NUMBER HERE TOO?

How many are bought from among mankind ?

As for the rest of mankind , Check the same Rev 21:4 they are on earth .

So tell how many was bought from among mankind, lets know who and who will enter Gods presence to eat from the heavenly paradise of God .

achorladey:
You said the ONE HOPE is EVERLASTING LIFE. I keep asking is it ONE HOPE or TWO. Now it's tending TOWARDS PROMISE of new HEAVEN and NEW EARTH. Are those one HOPES too?

Titus 1:2

" BASED ON a HOPE of the everlasting life that God, who cannot , lie, PROMISED long ago "

The Promises of new heaven and EARTH , are part of the PROMISED one Hope of everlasting life. Must you be spoonfed ?


I dont know Paul grundy destroy you to this extent

Barristter07:
New heaven and earth is based on the Hope of Everlasting life ( Titus 1:2 ) . Since you are not wise

Bro, Paulgrundy has singlehandedly destroy that Guy If you want to laugh wella, I can give you a quote where Paulgrundy said no emblem, no everlasting life and ask him if he agree , watch him scramble around

achorladey:
This is the bolded obtained from your post I am responding to.........

the paradise here must refer to the paradisaic HEAVENLY REALM​—the very PRESENCE of GOD HIMSELF.

Your questions carry HOW many PEOPLE?

The scripture CITED states TO THE ONE THAT CONQUERS. You want me to PLACE a NUMBER on THAT?

The one that Conquers he also said he will write his name and his Fathers name on them, Rev 3:12 ,
How many people are bought from among MANKIND and had the Fathers name and his son written on their forehead ? Isnt the number stated ...

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: My point is everlasting life is a gift for all, but immortality signified by TREE of LIFE is a gift ONLY for THOSE who experience the FIRST RESURRECTION.

Achorladey: I want to believe your explanation revolves around the below........as captured in the scriptures and the Watchtower w09 1/15 p. 30-p..........below.....

Revelation 2:7........Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations: TO the ONE who CONQUERS I will grant to eat of the TREE of LIFE, which is in the PARADISE of God.’.......

Highlights from the book of REVELATION part 1........

2:7 —What is “the paradise of God”? Since these WORDS are addressed to ANOINTED CHRISTIANS, the paradise here must refer to the paradisaic HEAVENLY REALM​—the very PRESENCE of GOD HIMSELF. The faithful anointed will be rewarded with eating “of the tree of life.” They will receive IMMORTALITY.​— 1 Cor. 15:53.

The key here is the ANOINTED CHRISTIANS and in the WORLD of JWS it's down to the 144,000 and by EXTENSION they ALONE(144000) receive IMMORTALITY.

Do you believe that the way Revelation 2:7 was worded it was RESTRICTED to 144,000 and is it for 144,000 ALONE?

Based on the bold .
The question should be how many people are bought from AMONG MANKIND as First fruits to God ? that way it would be clear whom among MANKIND gets to God's presence to partake of the tree of life.

chrmn1:
"apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being."
Could God create the world without the Word and the Spirit? Food for thought...

The man Jesus would be wrong to not worship God. The man Jesus mediates between God and man so he is just as human.

All past, present and future events are all past in God's perspective but this does not rule out the fact that there was a certain time that Jesus took up the form of a servant and Isaiah 42 speaks to that time. The contents of that scripture was clearly during his time on the earth not in his glorified state whilst with God.

All things were created....for him.
"And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was"
(John 17:5)

English language is not hard, is it ? When he said my servant , whom I have chosen . Is that futuristic ? When was Jesus CHOSEN for redemption , on Earth ?

shadeyinka:
Let me remind you before you speak another lie!


See how many lies were punctured in this your post alone?
From the screenshot, Abraham stayed to speak with Yahweh
From the Screenshot, Lot referred to the Angels not as Yahweh but as Adonai
From the screen shot, only two angels went to Lot and Yahweh stayed to speak to Abraham on the state of Sodom

Pitiable is the summary of your state!


I have asked, show a scripture to prove that an Angel was representing Jehovah in Gen 18:
...maybe it is angel Gabriel!??

for your question about Who was Paul referring at Heb 13:2 , I have answered you
Hebrews 13:2
2 Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.

Simple English language tell us that "some people" CANNOT be "one person"

Please, tell another of your organizations inspired lies!

Some people can include Abraham, deny ?

John 1:18 is still there for you to reflect upon

shadeyinka:
Twisted mind!

Because the Jehovah is powerless to appear to man "in a form" suitable for mans eyes
Exodus13:21
And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of cloud to lead them along the way, and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, that they might travel by day and by night.

Or as a Man as described in Genesis18:

Sorry, I forgot that there are so many things impossible for the god of your organization.

Even, Moses saw Jehovah in a form suitable for his mortality (His back literally)
Ex. 33:19–23
And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘The Lord.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” And the Lord said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back , but my face shall not be seen.”

God showed Moses part of His glory and that which was suitable for his mortal eyes to safely comprehend.

You know not the scriptures!

See him In a form suitable for human eyes ?

You lied, no man has seen Jehovah at ANY TIME . John 1:18

shadeyinka:
See how you have lumped up the definition of death again.

The scripture rightly used the word POURED because the BODY is the Container from which the Soul is poured out (disconnected/separated) in death. then the physical body dies but the soul/spirit remain alive and conscious
Using my definition again:
Physical Death is when the content (Soul/Spirit) of the Body is poured OUT of the body.

Even the seemingly elementary things are well above your comprehension because of the level of your brainwashing.

Promoting satanic falsehood. So even Jesus didn't die for anyone

Hmm only the container dies NOT the actual person ? Jesus fooled humans that he died for them but it was ordinary container while he was alive ?

CsRockefeller:
Are you sure you know what love is as described by the Bible?

So many of you live in fantasy world.

Christ is love, and he didn't baby sit anyone.

Understand the scriptures
Context of husband and wife please, Christ didn't have sex with anyone, you should not be romantic to your wife then . nonsense

shadeyinka:
The same Jesus is:
Isa 9:6-7:
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."

Abraham is "some people"!
Okay, I'll add it to my dictionary!

U quoted that because of Mighty God , Hebrew El Gibboa, a title that was even applied to humans . Na was

Let me ask you a direct question: probably this will end this back and forth

If Jehovah is the Almighty God, what kind of god/God is Jesus?

A God who has a God , and a servant of Jehovah God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - Act 3:13