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Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by CAPTIVATOR: 11:54am On Oct 11, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
You can see the difference below
Thats not capital and small letters, God's is " theoi " God is " theos"

Notice the " I and " S

That's two different Greek words not capital and small letters
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by CAPTIVATOR: 7:02am On Oct 11, 2021
Bishopkingsley:

Every language has small gods way of writing it and big God way of writing it


You can confirm it from your own language

Besides the story can tell you which God is God
That's not true in Bible Greek.

Shows you are not really competent to handle this topic
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by CAPTIVATOR: 6:13am On Oct 11, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
We are gods not Gods
And who told you it was written in small letters in original scripture?
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by CAPTIVATOR: 6:59am On Oct 10, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Yes. The three distinct Persons - God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all called God in the New Testament.

God The Father
The Bible talks about a person who is designated as the Father. This person is called God. Isaiah the prophet wrote:

But now, O Lord, you are our Father (Isaiah 64:8.. ).
Jesus taught His disciples to pray: "Our Father in heaven" (Matthew 6:9).

When the Apostle Paul wrote to the Christians in Galatia, he began his letter in the following way.

Paul an apostle - sent neither by human commission nor from human authorities, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead (Galatians 1:1).
God is called the Father in both the Old and New Testaments.

God The Son
The Bible records the existence of a Second Person who is distinct from the Father and who is also called God. This person is Jesus, God the Son. Jesus has been God the Son for all eternity. Two thousand years ago He became visible to humanity when He became a human being. John the evangelist wrote that Jesus existed in the beginning with God the Father.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (John 1:1).
In another place John wrote.

Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was his Father, making himself equal with God (John 5:18).
The Jews understood that Jesus was making Himself equal with God.

Jesus claimed to have existed before Abraham, a man who lived two thousand years before the New Testament era.

Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad. "You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds (John 8:56-59).
The Son Is Worshipped As God
The Son is also to be worshipped as God. After Jesus calmed the storm on the Sea of Galilee His disciples rightly worshipped Him.

Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God" (Matthew 14:33).
God the Father commanded the angels to worship Jesus when He came into the world.

And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him" (Hebrews 1:6).
Consequently we have a second Person mentioned in the New Testament who is also called God.

God Is Not Identical With Jesus
Although Jesus is called God in the New Testament it is also clear that the New Testament never makes Jesus identical with God. Jesus refers to God as someone other than Himself. He prays to God, refers to God being in heaven, and commends His Spirit to God when He dies. Therefore it is correct to say that Jesus is God but incorrect to say that God is Jesus.

God The Holy Spirit
There is a Third Person revealed in the Bible who is distinct from both the Father and the Son. He is known as the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is also referred to as being God.

Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? You have not lied to humans, but to God (Acts 5:3,4).
The Holy Spirit is not an influence but rather a distinct personality. As a Person He can be grieved. Paul wrote.

And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30).
The biblical evidence is that the Holy Spirit is also God.

Summary
Scripture says that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all distinct Persons. In addition we find that each of these Persons is specifically addressed as God. Scripture speaks of God the Father having existence. The Bible also says that Jesus the Son is God. Finally there is a third distinct Person, the Holy Spirit, who is also called God. Since all are addressed as God, and there is only one God, then the conclusion must be that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the one God.
Humans are called " GODS " too, why don't you add human beings to the list ?
SportsRe: Messi Names Six Clubs That Can Stop PSG From Winning Champions League by CAPTIVATOR: 6:56am On Oct 10, 2021
BigDolph:
Na because say Ronaldo dey man it’s that’s why he mentioned them also. Normal normal e no sure for that psg and man utd
Exactly, he mentioned them because of Ronaldo's presence
SportsRe: Messi Names Six Clubs That Can Stop PSG From Winning Champions League by CAPTIVATOR: 6:45am On Oct 10, 2021
mexioni:
Messi dey whine man utd nipples �����
Don't underrate United. They Got CR7 for champions league games
SportsRe: Messi Names Six Clubs That Can Stop PSG From Winning Champions League by CAPTIVATOR: 6:44am On Oct 10, 2021
puyol005:
Man utd? This man just dey wine us
With CR7 in that squad, don't underrate Man U
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by CAPTIVATOR: 8:36am On May 29, 2021
achorladey:
Thank you sense detector. Jehovah get im own spirit abi? And that Jehovah na spirit too abi? Me I don't have sense. I just they reason alongside people wey get sense grin grin
Next time learn to see where a convo is coming from before you talk, check my post up there , it will help you comprehend.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by CAPTIVATOR: 8:35am On May 29, 2021
Emusan:
No we don't deduce from 2 Corin 3:17 but what the verse says.

Now that Jehovah said to be THE SPIRIT, is The Spirit a force?

OR you agree with your brother that THE SPIRIT is different from HOLY SPIRIT.
Here is him trying to interpret the spirit at 2corintihians 3:17 as holy spirit. He should tell us if holy Spirit has his own spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by CAPTIVATOR: 8:19am On May 29, 2021
achorladey:
English English na wahala language. Na everyday person dey learn how to handle English or else person wey raise question like this

Does Holy spirit have his own spirit too?

go get lost within his own question paapaa.

I get one verse for you 2 Corinthians 6:6,7 Item number 5 in verse 6 and item number 2 in verse 7. You should find something interesting regarding those two items. I don't think you can miss it.
If you have any sense, You would know Emusan is a devotee of Trinity and of the core doctrine of Trinity is Father is Jehovah, Son is Jehovah, Holy spirit Is Jehovah. Jehovah is three persons in one. Emusan is using 2Corinthians 3:17 as proof that Holy spirit bears the name Jehovah. This would validate the question Barristter07 asks : if Jehovah is said to have a spirit, That means holy spirit have his own spirit , true ? or else, holy spirit Is not Jehovah.
CelebritiesRe: Toyin Lawani: My Hair Costs N4 Million – (Pix) by CAPTIVATOR: 6:48pm On Mar 02, 2021
Drinokrane:
Celebrity stylist Toyin Lawani has said that the hair she put on cost her N4 million, Igbere TV reports.

The mother of two revealed this in an Instagram post on Monday.

She shared a video of the hair stylist making the hair.



https://www.instagram.com/tv/CL4JCUehgGj/?igshid=1ipbyotw1kkc8

Toyin turned a year older on Monday.

She shared several pictures ranging from fully clothed, nude, paper bags, cutlery set wears and so on.

Cardi B had shared a video of herself getting her hair fixed on Instagram on February 24.

She said she used six wigs to create the look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wGXmpUJkGk
She has edited it. The 4million comment is no longer there
CareerRe: High Paying Skills You Need To Learn In Nigeria. by CAPTIVATOR: 9:44am On Feb 28, 2021
LordofNaija:
We are talking about how to solve the problem of Fulani militia, you dry talk skill, no be person wey dey alive dey learn skill?
Many will mock your post. But sense dey inside.
CareerRe: Why Do Morticians Knock At Door Before Entering The Mortuary? Scary Experiences by CAPTIVATOR: 7:30pm On Feb 24, 2021
writeprof:
Well, man is first a spirit being!
A spirit being doesn't have flesh and Bones ( Luke 24:39) . Man is not a spirit being.
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 4:32pm On Feb 18, 2021
johnw47:
false jw cap, your mumu don reach even higher level

Romans 8:29 is not concerning the genesis creation,
the genesis account is about man being made in God's image while flesh, made in the image of Father and the Word, while flesh:

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness



rom 8:29 is about the saved becoming the image of Jesus in spirit, being born again, so that Jesus Who is the first born from the dead may have many brothers.

those not saved of course are not born again in the spirit, in the image of Jesus


Rom 8:29  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.




Col 1:15  Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 
Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 
Col 1:18  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Be Sensible, admit the truth and stop saying nonsense. So Genesis is about made in God's image in Flesh, are you saying God have breast , penis, intestines ? Is God flesh ?

@highlighted, That doesn't appear in the verse. Read my post above and stop spewing nonsense
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 2:19am On Feb 18, 2021
Emusan:
See the Janosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil.

I know you lack basic English.

Christ is the IMAGE OF GOD.

My question was, where in the scripture this statement appeared, that Jesus bears the Image of anyone?

Jesus is THAT VERY IMAGE man was created after.

Oponu radarada
Nobody exist in the image of Jesus Christ. Barristter07 post on Romans 8:29,30 explained this in detail. Your stupid quote at bold would mean every man is righteous . Your Mumu don reach High level
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 2:16am On Feb 18, 2021
Emusan:
Olodo radarada!

But Jesus IS THAT VERY IMAGE, which means without Jesus the Father has no image.
Oponu ju...
And that Father's image is Jesus Himself.

Do you get it now, oponu?
Jesus is the image of His creator .
Just as we are the image of the same Creator.

Use sense, We and Jesus are all creations.
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 11:45pm On Feb 15, 2021
Barristter07:
No mind them .


" because those whom he gave his first recognition he also foreordained TO BE patterned after the image of his Son , so that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." Romans 8:29

For Emusan and Image123 to claim humans are made in Jesus image is to claim every human are God's chosen one. Which is FOOLERY

If humans are in Jesus image presently, that verse would make no sense when it says to be patterned after him.


No one exist in Jesus image like Captivator pointed out. He is not the Creator. Even Romans 8:29 apply to the Future , emphasis on " To be " which is even by the permission of the Father. Again showing Jesus is not the Creator. He is a creation like everyone else .

Simple as A.B C
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 11:44pm On Feb 15, 2021
Janosky:
* 2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

2 Corinthians 4:4,Mr LIENUS roger that. grin
You caught that clown.
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 11:43pm On Feb 15, 2021
Emusan:
So funny....

Let's replace your definition in the verse.

Jesus is the IMAGE belonging to the invisible God (the Father)

Can you see what the scripture is saying here is that, the IMAGE OF GOD is Jesus Himself?

Which means without Jesus the Father has NO IMAGE.

And man was created in the Image of God
Show me one single place where the scripture says The Father who is the image of the son?

You are too daft. Every intelligent creation exist in The father's image because he created them all, Jesus included.
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 10:21am On Feb 14, 2021
Image123:
i'm sure you received a certificate for this new knowledge. Carry your tail and run along already. Didn't you read your elders instructions to close discussion on this thread or are you not the united awake selling denomination not going to Heaven?
We are not made in Jesus image ... Make peace with it. Jesus is not the Creator.
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 10:17am On Feb 14, 2021
Emusan:
Where in the scripture this statement appeared, that Jesus bears the Image of anyone?
Jesus is the image OF ( Of means belonging to) the Invisible God ( the Father )

Nobody exist in Jesus image.
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 3:20pm On Feb 13, 2021
Image123:
God's. Did anyone say otherwise? Your elders already agreed that God the Father was talking to Jesus when He created man in His image. Do you agree we were created in Jesus' image? i hope your processor doesn't crash though. It's not really built for this.
No . Now I know you don't know shi in the scriptures
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 10:07am On Feb 13, 2021
shadeyinka:
Stupidity in full glare!
Far more stupidity to not have a rebuttal .
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 5:17pm On Feb 12, 2021
Image123:
Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 
Gen 1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


It must be a glorious coincidence then that God alone is Elohim, Elohim being a plural for the Supreme God and whom He revealed Himself as.

Gen 22:8  And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. 

The Bible says God is One, Jwickedness say God is One person, it is a miracle you cannot see the addition. Was man made in the image of God or image of angels? They don't tell you these truths in the sad hall.
Image of whom did Jesus bear ?
Christianity EtcRe: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 5:11pm On Feb 12, 2021
shadeyinka:
Isa 9:6-7:
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."
" Shall" future tense.

So Trinity is false. He isn't even always a mighty God.
Christianity EtcRe: Much I Dislike About Jehovah's Witnesses And Questions They Cant Answer by CAPTIVATOR: 5:03pm On Feb 12, 2021
JackBizzle:
This is one of the more "cultish" churches among other churches.

Every time I meet a member of the church, I am always disappointed. Always.


The one that even irritates me is that they are here on nairaland thinking that they can argue for their church. These people are so brainwashed that they even think that they have the moral ground to criticise other churches.


PLEASE, ANY TIME A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS IS TALKING ABOUT HIS//HER CHURCH'S DOCTRINES, SHUT THEM DOWN WITH THESE QUESTIONS.
This emotional outburst ain't neccesary.

1) Would you let me die if I needed blood transfusion and you had the only bag of blood in the area with you?
Deu 14:21 . No

Isrealites don't eat dead animals because of the command on blood, but they could sell to a foreigner. Who am I to watch you die if you want blood in your system?

2) How do you explain the NUMEROUS failed prophecies that have been made by your church leaders? A few failures is not too bad but a catalogue of failed prophecies? Jesus, you guys are frauds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses#Failed_predictions
None are prophecies. " MAY" is not prophetic.

3) Why do you ostracize non-members and apostates? Is that not cultish behaviour? Do you know who hates apostates as well? ISIS, radical muslims, North Korean communists and other cults!
" It is right to hate the wrong committed by the disfellowshiped one, but it is not right to hate the person nor is it right to treat such ones in an inhumane way. " W74, 8/1 p.467

If anyone hate the person or treat in an inhumane way, it's that person you should held liable


4) Why have your doctrines consistently changed? Not once, not twice but many many times! Your definition of "endtimes" have changed over the years, your teaching about Jews/heaven have changed etc
Humility to change when a person err, is a sign of God's guidance bro


NASB 1977
" But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; " 1The 5:21

5) Why is your church the "only" church? Do you realize that the bible you are using came as a result of the work of another church- the catholic church?
True worshippers will worship the Father. (John 4:23) Not Trinity.

Only them worship the Father as he should.

6) Where in the bible does it say that one should not be involved in government? Didn't Jesus agree on taxes? Were there not Kings that were men of God in the bible?
Satan own the government seat.

Luke 4:5,6

The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. (NIV)

Jesus rejected it. We do too
Foreign AffairsRe: China Bans BBC World Service, Following U.K. Ban Of Chinese Network by CAPTIVATOR: 4:29pm On Feb 12, 2021
JasonSleek:
In reality, everybody knows Russia is a direct military and economic ally of The people's Republic. As for the US, it has never been tested by or faced a country in "top 10" in a blown war, one on one.

They have the most advanced air force and navy in the world, yeah. But on the ground, Chinese soil, if you know your onions, you can tell that the US isn't capable of facing China. Take the Afghan Talibans for example, were too much for American forces and allies in Afghanistan. Talibans mostly without bulletproof vests, and advanced weapons were seemingly too much to handle for American and allied troops, and let's not talk about Vietnam even.
US and RUSSIA is still bigger than china in Military strength
Foreign AffairsRe: China Bans BBC World Service, Following U.K. Ban Of Chinese Network by CAPTIVATOR: 4:27pm On Feb 12, 2021
anonymous1759:
How old are you ?
Dispute the fact rather than childish comment.
Christianity EtcRe: 'jesus's Resurrection' A Topic That Exposes Jehovah Witness Organisation. by CAPTIVATOR: 4:24pm On Feb 12, 2021
livingchrist:
soul in that place means life.
Psychen is only used for Animal sentient only
You are now in trouble . You said Soul life was ressurected , meaning soul dies.

Psyche also use for humans, Phil 3:20, is that used for animals ?

Soul can mean a whole person or breath of life.

Animal sentient means breath of life that enabled animals enjoy life on Earth.


Soul is also life ( breath of) ... Either man or animals.
Christianity EtcRe: 'jesus's Resurrection' A Topic That Exposes Jehovah Witness Organisation. by CAPTIVATOR: 10:05am On Feb 12, 2021
enilove:
If that is their belief , it means they are not saved .
A knowledgeable person would know that the dead always resurrect as a spirit being in the spirit world , and this is never considered as resurrection .
grin grin grin ressurect but not ressurection. Go and pray, you need help
Christianity EtcRe: 'jesus's Resurrection' A Topic That Exposes Jehovah Witness Organisation. by CAPTIVATOR: 10:03am On Feb 12, 2021
livingchrist:
Jehovah witness deny the bodily resurrection of Jesus, they said Jesus resurrected as a Spirit not as a human, hence Jesus human life ended on the cross but his angelic life continued after his resurrection.
However what did Jesus say about his own resurrection.

John 10:17
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

Note the greek word translated as life is actually physical life [psychen].

See the screen shot below.

Jehovah witness by this and other teachings have shown themsleves to be antichrist by denying Jesus is come in the flesh.


2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The word psychen actually means soul life.

The implication of this, is that Jesus soul life was resurrected.

Cc maximus, Barrister, Peacefullove, Dappa, Janosky, Haddeylium,
For something to Ressurect, it must have Died. So human soul dies. End of hell and immortal soul teaching.
Christianity EtcRe: 'jesus's Resurrection' A Topic That Exposes Jehovah Witness Organisation. by CAPTIVATOR: 10:01am On Feb 12, 2021
Janosky:
John 17:4-5, Jesus Christ have PROVED that your claim is GIBBERISH grin grin
Ahh do you saw what he did, He just proved soul dies.

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