 Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 11:22am On Nov 28, 2019 |
rottennaija:
You mean the same great crowd of Re 19:1?
Revelation 19:1 After this, I heard the sound of a vast crowd in heaven shouting, "Hallelujah! Salvation is from our God. Glory and power belong to him alone. A description of a voice heard , Not saw a Crowd. Same voice was likened to water and thunder as well . Must you always embarass yourself with paul Grundy dull arguments which Jozzy4 trashed on the other thread More: Did the thief eat Jesus flesh and blood to gain life ? Re 2:7
So the paradise of God is in heaven? A paradise in heaven? But not the same paradise apostle Paul saw in his vision?
2 Corinthians 12:2 I was caught up into the third heaven fourteen years ago.
2 Corinthians 12:4 But I do know that I was caught up into paradise and heard things so astounding that they cannot be told.
Revelation 2:7 "Anyone who is willing to hear should listen to the Spirit and understand what the Spirit is saying to the churches. Everyone who is victorious will eat from the tree of life in the paradise of God. Mr man, You claimed there is an explanation for 2 Cor 12:4 isnt it, present it . and Revelation 2:7 will be clear, we would know if its same with the one Jesus mentioned years earlier at Luke 23:43 or not, if there are other reference to Paradise apart from that, ths thing isnt hard |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 10:59am On Nov 28, 2019 |
rottennaija:
You are here mixing different concept of different times together. Pre-Christian servant of God are not described as Christian, neither are they required to follow Christians believe.
Their criteria die faith and obedience was different compared to our. And those who met those criteria, God made them the promise to prepare a heavenly city for them.
Read Hebrews 11: 15 - 16
Hebrews 11:13
All these faithful ones died without receiving what God had promised them, but they saw it all from a distance and welcomed the promises of God. They agreed that they were no more than foreigners and nomads here on earth.
Hebrews 11:14
And obviously people who talk like that are looking forward to a country they can call their own.
Hebrews 11:15
If they had meant the country they came from, they would have found a way to go back.
Hebrews 11:16 But they were looking for a better place, a heavenly homeland. That is why God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a heavenly city for them. John 3:3 debunk your claim that been born again doesn't apply to them . UNLESS ANYONE. Deep! Wait, so they die and their soul made heaven without Jesus even dying for their Sin ? O how useless the ransom is , people make heaven without Jesus. Right? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 10:55am On Nov 28, 2019 |
rottennaija:
St. Matthew 11:11 "I assure you, of all who have ever lived, none is greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the most insignificant person in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he is!
Which part of it says he will not be in heaven? Jesus was referring to ALL MANKIND. Statement 1. Jesus was referring to All who would be in heaven, statement 2. But the most insignificant would be greater than John , which shows he wont be there, If John would be there, he won't be the most insignificant . How did Jesus define born again?
Jesus didn't define born again. He made a forceful statement that you cannot enter, see God's kingdom if you are not born again. Jesus didnt define, but explained matters to Nichodemus. Well done. Now he explained it means been Born of water and spirit , How is that man born of water and spirit ? These scriptures define born again.
(John 1:12) However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, [/i]because they were exercising faith in his name.
(1 John 5:1-4) Everyone who [i]believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God, and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and carry out his commandments.
(Galatians 3:26) You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus.
(1 John 2:29) If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him.
(1 John 3:9) Everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, for His seed remains in such one, and he cannot practice sin, for he has been born from God.
(1 John 5:18) We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, but the one born from God watches him, and the wicked one cannot take hold of him.
(1 John 4:7) Beloved ones, let us continue loving one another, because love is from God, and everyone who loves has been born from God and knows God. The great crowd knows God and have faith in Jesus, yet they are on earth. Something deeper is involved, Again: How is that thief born of water and spirit? Did he eat Jesus flesh and blood to gain life ?  2 Co 12:4 - let watchtower itself answer
2:7 —What is “the paradise of God”? Since these words are addressed to anointed Christians, the paradise here must refer to the paradisaic heavenly realm—the very presence of God himself. The faithful anointed will be rewarded with eating “of the tree of life.” They will receive immortality.—1 Cor. 15:53 This is not an explanation of 2Cor 12:4, You think u dealing with a Kid, the blue is a reference to Rev 2:7 . Quote the explanation for 2Cor 12:4. Pathetic |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 10:39am On Nov 28, 2019 |
rottennaija:
The man fit the criteria perfectly. He was born of water and spirit ? Mr explain Not only will John not be on heaven, Abraham, Isaacs, Jacob etc will also be on heaven too. Yeah, they are all Born again, born from water and spirit ? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 10:37am On Nov 28, 2019 |
Evasion again: Did the thief eat Jesus flesh and blood to gain everlasting life.? • Bring the supposed explanation of 2Cor 12:4 • How did Jesus define been Born again, and how does this thief fit the criteria of born by water and spirit ? rottennaija:
Where in the bible is it said John wouldn't be in heaven? Matthew 11:11 So also the great crowd with Faith , are on earth. So go back and defend yourself by explaining the deep aspects Born of water and spirit |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 10:21am On Nov 28, 2019 |
I repeat this question again: Did the man eat Jesus flesh and blood to gain everlasting life ? You can avoid it again okay rottennaija:
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN?
The phrase "born again" literally means "born from above." Other expressions used in the bible are: “a new creature”, “Baptized into Christ”, “Sons of God through faith”, “Children of God”, “new birth”. (2 Co 5:17, Ro 6:3, Ga 3:26, John 6:44, 1 Pe 1:3,23)
The “new birth”, is an act of God whereby eternal life is given to the anyone who have faith and believes in his son, Jesus, for forgiveness of sin, salvation and being right with God. It is a new beginning, a new life of a new relationship, for the individual between himself and God, through his faith in Jesus.
2 Co 5: 17 says, “if anyone is in union with Christ, he is a new creation; the old things passed away; look! new things have come into existence.”
HOW DOES ANYONE BECOME BORN AGAIN?
The following scriptures answers the question:
(John 1:12) However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name.
(1 John 5:1-4) Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God, and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and carry out his commandments.
(Galatians 3:26) You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus.
(1 John 2:29) If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him.
(1 John 3:9) Everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, for His seed remains in such one, and he cannot practice sin, for he has been born from God.
(1 John 5:18) We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, but the one born from God watches him, and the wicked one cannot take hold of him.
(1 John 4:7) Beloved ones, let us continue loving one another, because love is from God, and everyone who loves has been born from God and knows God.
Was the thief on the cross born again?
Going by the above scriptures, I say, yes. He was, most definitely. This is a man who accept Jesus, showed faith in him while others were making fun of him. He expressed so great faith him, an unquestioning faith than majority in Israel lack.
No wonder, Jesus promised him "You would be with me in paradise." Said Jesus in Lu 23:43. Jesus will be in heaven, where the paradise of God is, as would the the repented thieve whom he promised. This paradise is mentioned by the apostle Paul in 2 Cor 12:4. Your definition of born again is all about Faith in Jesus, See even John the Baptist has faith yet he won't be in heaven. Comprehend? The Great crowd that survived the great tribulation also has faith and do not practice sin, Yet they will be on Earth, comprehend ? So lets lock that aspect of your post. Shows something deeper is involved. Am going back to Jesus statement in John chapter 3. How did Jesus define been born again and does this theif fit the criteria ? Born of water and Spirit. How ? ( Do i need to request again for the supposed explanation of that 2Cor 12:4 ) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 9:16am On Nov 28, 2019 |
rottennaija:
"You would be with me in paradise." Said Jesus in Lu 23:43. Jesus will be in heaven, where the paradise of God is, as would the the repented thieve whom he promised. One, you are a clown, ... Casting yourself up and down, so did this thief eat the flesh and blood of Jesus to gain everlasting life ? Secondly, Been born again is a condition for gaining access to heavenly kingdom, Mr rottennaija is the thief born again ? The answer to this please ( John 3:5,6) This paradise is mentioned by the apostle Paul in 2 Cor 12:4. (Note, After decades of denial, watchtower has recently admitted that the paradise of 2 Co 12:4 is heavenly.) Like i said, you are a clown Can you quote the explanation proper and lets compare with your assertion above ? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jehova's Witnesses, Do U Have This In Your Bible? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:35am On Nov 28, 2019 |
Janosky:
CAPTIVATOR, thanks for your exposure of that NL fraud man Pharisee Jah deserve thanks Brother. Well done too |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 5:44pm On Aug 12, 2019 |
rottennaija:
How did the faith arrived in the past generations when the scriptures themselves said, "before the faith arrived"? It also said they were looking to the faith that was about to be revealed? That was a typo, my point " Before the Faith arrived " is enough to tell you, the Faith has nor arrived in the past generations . Did it say they were prisoners of the faith? If the faith had not arrived, how could they be prisoners of it? You are just deceiving yourself, Ga 3 is speaking about the mosaic law in particular, it was this law that kept the Israelite prisoners, captive of the law (not faith that came later).
The Mosaic law came about 400 years after Abraham Noah, Abraham, Jacob. They were never a part of the Mosaic laws, let alone be prisoners of it. When you get something wrong and your attention is drawn to it, be polite enough to see and accept your mistakes, instead of trying to muddled up the issues.
Watchtower it itself acknowledge that the place is talking of the mosaic law, as it kept the Israelite in custody (prisoner). This is why I added Colossians 1:26 it was a scared secret kept from past generations My point was : How could they have known this Faith if it was yet to arrive ? Or you want to tell me it arrive , then return during the mosaic law era, only to come back again |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 6:48am On Aug 12, 2019 |
rottennaija:
I hope you realize that in Galatians 3: 23, the apostle Paul is writings about the Mosaic law. Now, please refer again to your post here.
Where they prisoners to the faith or prisoner to the law?
Was Noah, Abraham, Jacob also prisoners of the law or prisoners to the faith?
Was Noah, Abraham, Jacob also prisoners of the Mosaic law too? Its self explanatory, Galatians 3:23 explains the Faith has arrived in the past generations, " BEFORE the faith arrives " , " until the coming FAITH would be Revealed ". Would it use this expressions if Faith was revealed to the people u mentioned? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 1:24am On Aug 11, 2019 |
rottennaija:
Actually, I read and understood what you wrote. It seems that you don't understand my question (the context).
When I asked "So how could or did many in the past put faith in Jesus while he was not born or had not appeared yet so that they will now gain everlasting life?" , this was in specific reference to those who were declared to have God's favour. People like Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, Joel.
So, my question is "how could or did many in the past put faith in Jesus while he was not born or had not appeared yet so that they will now gain everlasting life?
I mean, isn't it contradictory? You are wrong. They are yet to put faith in Jesus. They were Prisoners to the Faith about Jesus and his ransom . Galatians 3: 23 " Now before faith came we were held in CUSTODY under the LAW, being kept as PRISONERS until the coming FAITH would be Revealed ". How could people kept as prisoners to the faith to come be said to have fully put faith in Christ ? Colosians 1:26 buttress further, this sacred secret was HiDDEn from past generations ... Do u see why your question is very wrong now ? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 6:24pm On Aug 10, 2019 |
rottennaija:
So how could or did many in the past put faith in Jesus while he was not born or had not appeared yet so that they will now gain everlasting life?
I mean, isn't it contradictory? You didn't read well, here is the statement again " ), But many people in the past, will be ressurected in other to gain Life even when they had not been baptized as long as they put faith in Christ . ( Act 24:15) " By ressurected to gain Life, this refers to their conduct after ressurection, which gives them a fresh opportunity to Know Christ and decide to put faith in him, those who do are hence granted everlasting life , ( John 3:16 ) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 1:21am On Aug 10, 2019 |
rottennaija:
Is baptism necessary for Salvation? Can you enter God's kingdom without baptism? 1. 1 Pet 3:21 Baptism puts a person in line for Salvation Like Noah's ark .. Its a public expression of the 'Request a person made to God for a good conscience through the ressurection of Jesus Christ ' ( Dedication ) 2. Its required of Christians, a symbol of a Christians dedication to God Even Jesus did set the pattern . ( Matt 28:19,20), But many people in the past, will be ressurected in other to gain Life even when they had not been baptized as long as they put faith in Christ . ( Act 24:15) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 1:15am On Aug 10, 2019 |
rottennaija:
Is baptism necessary for Salvation? Can you enter God's kingdom without baptism? Why not go and address your other blunders you left behind? |
| Crime › Re: Phd Student Crushed To Death By Truck After He Was Forced At Gun Point By Bandit by CAPTIVATOR: 1:01am On Aug 10, 2019 |
Freelanceona100:
Is this God's plan or what his destiny choose? Satan rules the world , 1 John 5:19. In such a world.people will be " lovers of money " 2 Tim 3:1 , thats why we hear of armed robbers Hence this kind of news, but there is hope through the promised Gods kingdom which will remove Satans sad world and restore mankind to Peace . ( Rev 21:4 he will wipe tears from there eyes , remove death , Former things like this newd would have passed away ) For more info: check this article - What is Gods kingdom ? https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-study/what-is-gods-kingdom/ |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 12:40am On Aug 10, 2019 |
rottennaija
So, it's not a question of being right hearted or not, it's a question of how gullibility of those who accept an argument that is said irrespective of whether it is factual or not . JUST as you swallow an argument that said eating emblem is important for everlasting life irregardless of whether its factual or not , only to run away on the other thread . shown another hole in the argument you propagate on this thread again, by a user Jozzy4, you quickly deflect again . Says much about you . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 1:01pm On Aug 07, 2019 |
rottennaija:
In my experience, cowards are often the ones calling others cowards. Nice evasion there, that question was above you. enjoy your ignorance |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 11:50am On Aug 07, 2019 |
rottennaija:
You have not offered any defense to what he said, no scriptures to prove your point. You simply retorted, named him dumb, then emotional outbursts about the unrighteous, call what you hear nonsense etc.
I would expect you respond with a solid explanation why he is wrong. You are probably using glasses, didn't you see the person I quoted already did that with solid scriptures Tackle his post and stop been a coward yeye My own question for you: reference to Act 24:15, Ressurection of the unrighteous , to heaven or earth ? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 10:23pm On Aug 06, 2019 |
Jozzy4:
He has been brain washed by a Guy called Paul Grundy , the guy knows nothing , so just expect the Op to parrot his ideas
Concerning paradise Earth, in his effort to prove he is right , the guy made two blunders .
1.
Following this statement Jesus went on to recite the Lord's Prayer, stating at Matthew 6:10; "Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth."
The Lord's Prayer does not state that the earth is to last forever or be lived on. In fact this scripture contradicts Watchtower doctrine as it indicates God's will was already done in heaven when Jesus made this statement.
According to him, Gods will was already done in heaven when Jesus was on earth , Years later we found Jesus speaking about things that will take place in the Future Rev 1:1,2 years after his death o , he told John at Revelation Chapter 12 regarding the Casting of Satan from heaven with his Myriads of angels . GODS will is already done in heaven, Yet Disobedient child's are around causing issues for other angels ?
The angels at that time were said to be REJOICING , How come they didn't rejoice all this while until Satan was casted , and Gods will is been done, Is Satan slanderous act part of Gods will ?
Here is another :
2. "
No Scripture says mankind will be resurrected onto earth "
You saw that, Let's now look at John 5:28,29_ Jesus said people will be ressurected and come out, then he said those who practice evil to ressurection of judgement , Where are they practicing this Evil ? This was a reference to what they did after ressurection ( ROM 6:7 )
Act 24;15 ressurection of righteous and unrighteous, So unrighteous, many of whom do not even know Jesus , talkless of having faith in him, this people will be ressurected to heaven ?
See, don't take the Op and his clowns serious . No scripture says mankind will be ressurected to earth ? Did he says that for real ? Am just surprise how dumb some people can be , you are right, then it means those unrighteous people will be ressurected to heaven. Too bad, am hearing this kinda nonsense . so that's what the Op is parroting ? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 3:53pm On Aug 06, 2019 |
peggywebbs:
I am not mocking Jesus. I am not even against JW. I am simply just against their discrimination of other Christians and some of their practices which they take to the extreme.
Do I have JW friends? Yes, Do I attend their programs? Yes, so my point is just the discrimination.
I don't believe that everyone will be removed from the earth except Jehovah's witnesses. I believe that everyone who believes in Jesus and follows the laws of God and abide to his ways will reap the benefit of eternal life on the new earth. My first question you answered that man is not immortal, Does that mean people like Moses and David stay dead till now or are in heaven ? My second question u say and I quote "
Jesus did not die but his flesh and body was killed. " So Jesus himself did not die for anyone sins ? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 8:47pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
CAPTIVATOR:
You are actually the real mockery of Christianity
How can Jesus claim to give everlasting life to humans who are capable to everlasting life as immortal souls ?
How can Jesus claim to die, when ordinary body is what dies and the real person of soul lives forever ?
When u mock Jesus ransom, you are FAKE! Cc: peggywebbs |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 8:42pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
peggywebbs:
I have replied all your six questions in full details. Please check Six ? Not me |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 8:21pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
peggywebbs:
I gave you a detailed answer using the scriptures because the bible is complete. I didn't have to check watchtower where someone just picked his favourite verse to make him happy.
Everything I said is as the bible put it... pray to God to give you understanding. Study your bible and let the Holy Spirit minister to you for interpretation. Simple.
But no.. instead you will read watchtower for understanding. I will never twist the word of God. Instead if I'm not clear on a matter I pray.
I prayed before answering all your questions but yet you were quick to reject the scriptures you even presented to me.
Go and find out the truth, watchtower doesn't have all the answers, Jesus is the way, the truth and the light.
And nobody created him because he is the word of the Father I asked you some questions before, why do u fail to reply, if you really Know Jesus , it should not be hard. Nobody create him right ? Revelation 3:14 shoikf enlighten you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 8:19pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
Jozzy4:
Failed paulgrundy follower, your mentor doesn't believe the earth will exist forever hence he couldn't accept the bibles teaching, all good people go to heaven, so why wont he apply Jesus mediatorship of new covenant to all mankind.
Psalm 37:29 , Heb 2:5 , 2Pet 3:13 - do u believe in a new earth ? I now get where he is coming from. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 8:12pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
rottennaija:
Is Jesus now mediating in different categories now? Different context? Mediatorship of new covenant is for those going to heaven , . not for everyone . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 5:36pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: The word" u say ? Evidently you admitted it was APPLIED in both.
Achorladey: where did the word "PROFESSING" appear ONCE AGAIN? Category 1 or Category 2 The question is : Does it apply to both ? Because am sure those in category 1 also profess before entering the congregation
[quote]CAPTIVATOR: While Jesus single out the faithful and discreet slave in feeding all other servants of his ..
Achorladey: "SINGLED OUT AGAIN" hahaha hahaha. Are you singled out as a FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE of CHRIST or it is not for everyone as USUAL? That his master APPOINTS. CAPTIVATOR: Did he said that slave will never eat?
Achorladey: I believe you know they will EAT the QUESTION once again is WHO FEEDS them? After all the 8 are all SLAVES. If you answer the question you will equally answer the previous question.
CAPTIVATOR: Sense is all you need!
Achorladey: Have you found the ONE you were LOOKING For PREVIOUSLY? The person that serve others would feed himself. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 5:32pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
rottennaija:
Did I say I copy and posted from the Bible? I don't remember saying anything of that nature. And even if I copied and posted from the bible, you will still not accept it. You even deny messages coming from your own watchtower publications, let alone the Bible. I posted some questions to you, do well to respond By the way, have you accepted Jesus as your one and only mediator? (At least, this one is from the Bible.) Mediator in what context .. New covenant ? Mediator in approaching Jehovah ?? Yes, John 14:6 ... No one comes to the father EXCEPT through me . so Jesus Is the mediator of every faithful Christian, how else do you approach or pray to God without Jesus ? |
| Romance › Re: I'm An Advocate Of No Sex Before Wedlock. by CAPTIVATOR: 5:02pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
LillyVal:
I'm an advocate of no sex before wedlock. But Nlers when you tell a guy you are dating that no sex before marriage and he accepted without arguing and you guys have been cool.
Don't you think you should find out if he's really potent by giving it atleast one shot?
What if you waited till your wedding night and realized he's actually impotent or under performed? It happened recently to someone I know.
I am just saying As for the under performed, I always tell people that the Bible doesnt support married people not pleasing each other sexually 1 Corinthians 7:3, when discussing couple's sexual relation says " Let the husband give to his wife HER DUE , and let the wife also do likewise to her husband " Due means due /djuː/ adjective of the proper quality or extent. So under performing is a no, both must feel satisfied and happy. Why ? Verse 5 says so that Satan won't tempt them and destroy their union |
| Romance › Re: I'm An Advocate Of No Sex Before Wedlock. by CAPTIVATOR: 4:55pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Video Recording With 2 JW Elders After WT Child Sexual Abuse Studies by CAPTIVATOR: 4:51pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR : Wicked men ENTER the congregation, Ungodly men who crept in _
By enter u think opening the door of kingdom Hall, Dont be silly, this are members with False Claim from start , This ones also profess but were False right from Start .
It says " in addition " to include them . before moving to the next.
Which u lied the Writer never meant Profess in the sense of False Claim !
Achorladey: I believe you get my question there the first time. Where did the word PROFESSING APPEAR in the ARTICLE.? Category 1 or Category 2.
After all you group it into two yourself. The word" u say ? Evidently you admitted it was APPLIED in both. CAPTIVATOR: This is a warning, not even APPLICABLE to EVERYONE , that slave feed others, If all of us are the slave , whom do we feed ?
Achorladey: Will you RATHER REMAIN UNFAITHFUL since it's NOT APPLICABLE to EVERYONE perhaps INCLUDING YOU? Hahaha ha hahaha.
Do you SLAVE for CHRIST or IT IS NOT APPLICABLE TO YOU? Haha Hahaha.
Imagine if ALL OF US ARE SLAVES WHOM DO WE FEED. As an example, the 8 "FAITHFUL SLAVE" housed in Walkill are all SLAVES do they feed one another? When you answer that, you will answer the question you asked yourself.
CAPTIVATOR: To answer the former question myself, its possible,
Achorladey: Good you note that it is POSSIBLE.
CAPTIVATOR: so what exactly is your problem that the writer admit some formerly faithful members succumb to wrong desires and become unfaithful ?
Achorladey: My problem now is what I have been able to achieve with all what we have discussed so far as stated previously in the post you responded to. While Jesus single out the faithful and discreet slave in feeding all other servants of his .. Did he said that slave will never eat ? Sense is all you need! |
| Romance › Re: I'm An Advocate Of No Sex Before Wedlock. by CAPTIVATOR: 4:45pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
LillyVal:
I'm an advocate of no sex before wedlock. But Nlers when you tell a guy you are dating that no sex before marriage and he accepted without arguing and you guys have been cool.
Don't you think you should find out if he's really potent by giving it atleast one shot?
What if you waited till your wedding night and realized he's actually impotent or under performed? It happened recently to someone I know.
I am just saying There is something called potency test . done at hospital's ... Am an advocate of no sex before marriage too . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My (non) Judicial Meeting With 4 Jehovah's Witness Elders by CAPTIVATOR: 4:07pm On Aug 05, 2019 |
Janosky:
See this Madam Peggy as she dey lie on a public forum.
You LIED on this thread that no bible -catholic or Protestant says "the word is a god"
whereas, more than 14 different Bible translations exposed your falsehood.
We are on thread 4 now, just go back to thread 3 and attempt those 6 questions waiting for your reply.
"Researcher" spreading falsehood. LolZZZZZ . |
