Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:46pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel: But you can accept autologous blood transfusion or small fractions of blood like albumin, factor 8 and 9 immunoglobulins rhogam etc It is the act of eating blood paul warned us to abstain from
Alcohol is not even transfused. Like I said if the doctor has need for iv alcohol he will give it iv. OK if the doctor ask you not to take alcohol iv but he uses it to clean your open wound have you abstained from it? No doctor will ever tell you to inject alcohol iv it is of no use. Nobody takes alcohol iv so the chance of not taking it iv it will not even be there in the first place. Use true analogies and make logical statements
Your alcohol analysis is just a fallacy called false analogy or false equivalent. Well and organisation filled with fallacies that is what you get. Illogical statement
What fractions of fornication can you accept since abstaining from blood does not cover certain fractions of blood and autologous blood transfusion? Offside again sir . The point is a person that accepts Alcohol through the vein Is not ABSTAINING Act 15:29 says Abstain from BLOOD , A Christian accept to be transfused with BLOOD something the scripture warns to abstain from . how beautiful! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:37pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel: First and foremost no doctor will ask you to take alcohol iv. If iv alcohol was used for any treatment a doctor will prescribe it but it isn't use. Alcohol dosent even change effect when given iv or taken orally.
Blood eaten will not and never have thesame effect as blood transfusion. Stop making those your watchtower analysis fool of fallacy so alcohol iv and blood transfusion are now thesame thing
Yes flee or abstain from blood. Don't accept autologous blood transfusion and come and tell me blood transfusion is bad apostle Paul said abstain from blood and Nathan knorr in 1945 said abstain from blood transfusion so it's biblical but we can accept autologous blood transfusion since the name is now bloodless surgery because it is biblical. Or I am a hemophiliac jw I can accept factor 8 and 9 gotten from blood donated by others because the bible said I can break blood down and accept it when it is broken down or I can take albumin gotten from plasma of blood of others or immunoglobulins gotten from blood of other people because is broken down. Bible says we can take small fractions but not take larger fractions of blood because it is a sin apostle Paul said abstain from blood and Nathan knorr thousands of years later ie in 1945 said so.
You people even have fractions of blood you can accept nowadays. Hypocrites Offside sir . the point been established with the Alcohol Setting is eating or Drinking can not only be done through the Mouth BUT it can also be transfused and it will amount to same thing . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 9:12pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel: The scriptures give no explicit command against blood transfusion neither is the act frowned upon. While some people view transfusion as eating like you others don't. Anything the scriptures give no command against is left to the individuals conscience the scripture gives Explicit command against Blood . Abstain from Blood - Act 15:29 but says no such thing againt Cannibalism . this further showed u don't understand the earlier question asked : what is been Transfused ? Blood ! SOMETHING A CHRISTIAN IS WARNED TO ABSTAIN FROM The passage said abstain from blood and from fornication please do you eat fornication? Abstain from blood means abstaining from eating it blood transfusion is not food. Imagine two patients with hypoglycaemia brought to an emergency room wit severe hypoglycaemia in coma one is being transfused with and the other is given 50% dextrose water iv who will survive
Or 2 patients with kwashiokor one given food and the other given blood transfusion please who will survive
Yes I am abstaining from blood if I get a blood transfusion because I did not eat it Am also abstaining from Alcohol since I didn't Consume it through the mouth, But it was transfused to my Body. logical, isnt it ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 8:13pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel: Are you practicing cannibalism by accepting organ transplant? Emotions and sentiment response The scripture gives no explicit command againt Cannibalism, but the act is frowned against ! While some people view Organ transplant as a form of cannibalism , others dont. anything the scripture gives no command against is left to the individuals conscience Yes I am abstaining from eating blood by being transfused. You are Abstaining from Blood by been transfused with the same Blood . its okay  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Don't Believe In Hell Fire by CAPTIVATOR: 7:25pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
analice107: Lolzz. Then why are you here talking about it?
I don't believe in Pink Unicorns so, am never here talking about them. For you to talk about it means you don't really believe your beliefs.
Wait, lets die and find out, but be rest assured that if you have believed a lie, hmmmmmmmm. You'd ve no one to blame. Read Jeremiah 7:31 , the idea of burning humans in a fire never comes to God's heart. the Danger of believing in this doctrine is the fact that such a Person Lied against God . Lying against God is a serious offence |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 7:12pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel: The Bible said abstaining from blood abstaining from eating blood. blood transfusion is not eating blood they are n they are not thesame thing Are u Truly Abstaining from BLOOD, by been Tranfused ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 7:10pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
naijamafioso: This op murdered his brain the day he left jw. I was born a muslim and my father sent me out of home when i became a christian. JW dont do that and even God instructed the Israelites not to have intimate relationship with the nations around them because they were not his worshippers. I want to believe the poster does not really understand the scriptures well, he is not really rooted in the teachings and that made him half-baked jw. He might have been a black sheep of the family even before he left the religion. And come to think of it, he has succeeded in bringing more people to read about JW while he thought he wanted to bring them down. The traffic as at now is almost 16k. God has used him in favour of the organization.
The only authentic website to know about Jw is jw.org very cool @ bold , True |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 7:03pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
ekanDamie: the fact that we wait for God to write every commandment in black n white is a justification that we ourselves don't read d Bible n meditate on it. do u smoke? can you abort a baby? there is no where in the Bible it's expressly written not to do these things but yet it's a sin. God never said ABSTAIN FROM blood transfusion but are u abstaining from blood by being transfused?
doctor says do not take alcohol and u agreed only to start injection urself with alcohol instead. u would agree with me that I've headed d doctors advice, isn't it? for the whole obligation of man is, fear the true God, and keep his commandment ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD Beautiful Question @ Bold |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by CAPTIVATOR: 7:03pm On Mar 19, 2017 |
ekanDamie: the fact that we wait for God to write every commandment in black n white is a justification that we ourselves don't read d Bible n meditate on it. do u smoke? can you abort a baby? there is no where in the Bible it's expressly written not to do these things but yet it's a sin. God never said ABSTAIN FROM blood transfusion but are u abstaining from blood by being transfused?
doctor says do not take alcohol and u agreed only to start injection urself with alcohol instead. u would agree with me that I've headed d doctors advice, isn't it? for the whole obligation of man is, fear the true God, and keep his commandment ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD |
Romance › Re: Roman Goddess Message To Married Women by CAPTIVATOR: 10:38am On Mar 17, 2017 |
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Romance › Re: Roman Goddess Message To Married Women by CAPTIVATOR: 10:16am On Mar 17, 2017 |
NegeduGrace: all this girls displaying boobs n butts is that the only thing they can offer ?and for the men is that all u want? Lord have mercy Am a guy , But u just wont belive How many times I have to read your comment above, the kind of men we have this generation makes me sometimes sad , A girl with empty heads so far she has this rubbish Fats called yansh and Boobs Would be picked and lavished with gift above a Sincere girl who is far intelligent and could advise and encourage you in life . How Can I be in a relationship and all a girl can offer me is Sex ? I will delete her sharply , this is why am a strong advocate of No sex relationship , not that am stupid , But my goal is to see if you have anything to offer me apart from sex when we later get married |
Christianity Etc › Re: When Hell Go To Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 9:13am On Mar 12, 2017 |
ChristianFreedo: Why waste your time trying to answer him when he is not ready to learn or accept something new, even if what is presented is true?
He is a jw and only knows what the watchtower says. Tomorrow, if the watchtower says hell fire exist, he will believe without questions. He is a spiritual babes and spiritual things can only be considered spiritually.
I can remember when the watchtower was spending all of their time claiming the big bang theory is wrong. Today, they accept it. I have read how the watchtower has been spending years condemning organ transplant with what they called 'scriptural' reasons, today they leave it to the consciences of JWs. I also remember how the watchtower has been condemning higher education, that time also JWs will condemn JWs that send their children to schools.
The point I'm making is, JWs will always remain spiritual babes, waiting for the watchtower's adulterated milk. And whenever the doctrine shifts, they also shift like a boat tossed about in the water. They don't really know what the Scriptures says or how to apply them. Since you know better , why not address the Op bible based question |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah’s Witness And Hitler Germany: What The Watchtower Never Says by CAPTIVATOR: 2:08pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
That was how one was arguing that Yahweh is correct not Jehovah , despite the fact that he knows his forefathers have been using Jehovah in English for a long time , but I know why ? If Jehovahs Witnesses have chosen Yahweh, this same people would cry foul again that Jehovah is correct since most hebrew names in the bible starts with " Jeho" , Jehoshaphat, Jehoram e.t.c . and what if the Witnesses at that time have dedicated a whole article to sympathize with the Jews , this same apostate would have said definitely they are financed by Jews , or why would they be so concerned , if there is nothing between them . so the accusation is right, and they lied that they aint been financed by Jews . doing that would definitely weaken the claim that they are not financed by Jews . in other news, whatever the witness did is not just right with this apostates , So let them be bro @ Jozzy4 , sent u a pm.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians How Would You Deny This Blatant Contradiction by CAPTIVATOR: 10:57pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
jonbellion: The christians are always fond of saying that "carnal minds" can never understand the bible. Well my mind must be be carnal then 2 kings 2:11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. John 3:11 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.(these were jesus' words) its normal to be curious like you are and asking questions is not a bad thing. But regarding this , there is no contradiction. what you fail to understand is Elijah went up to heaven doesnt mean Gods abode , it simply refer to the sky . compare Psalm 19:1 where the sky is called Heaven , is it Logical to believe Elijah actually went to God in heaven when there is evidence that he was seen writing a letter to a King years After the event ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Mary The Mother Of God? Is Mary The Theotokos (God-bearer)? by CAPTIVATOR: 10:42pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (1 Timothy 3:16).
This verse unravels your confusion to the mystery of Person of Jesus Christ.  you are the confused person here, Since God was manifest in the FLESH , what does that make the person who gave birth to that Flesh ? |
Gaming › Re: Do You Have An Idea On The Current Price Of Play Station 2 ? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:40pm On Feb 22, 2017 |
jizzison: Am v.sorry It took me so long 2 reply u buddy its very possible 2 watch movies on ur HACKED ps2 via Free Mc Boot v1.8,1.9,1.93...e.t.c of course b'coz it has a programme or rather an app called Simple Media System which enables u 2 watch any movie & play ur favourite songs using ur SD Card Or Memory Card... Pls Note: Am not referring 2 da regular ps2 memory card,am talking about da 1 u use in ur phonne. I hope I helped solved dat puzzle u've bin looking 4. thanks brother, I actually saw the app and was able to play my songs , but couldn't watch movies , in some cases only the audio was heard, no Video |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 3:16pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: Firstly I have the right to my opinion just as you have right to your opinion . Why would you think your opinion is right and I'm wrong. Supposing you're wrong . Why not let us present our cases and point with humility and let the viewers decide . Why getting personal . That is fleshly and carnal . I can't force you to believe from my view . You are entitled to your view . I can only pray to God to open your understanding. Likewise you .
I should have thrown a lot of insults at some of you also but The principles of communication of the word of God which I uphold is revealed in the scripture below. Take heed to it
2 Timothy 2:24-26 (KJV Strong's) 24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
Be careful the translation you quote. Thats the main thing, interlinears are online you can verify http://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/23-23.htm |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 2:53pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: Mind your language . I don't converse with those who act naughty . Gods word doesn't require insult Its an insult to Gods word to add to it things that were not there all in a bid to justify tithing. Again, no such thing as income appears in Matt 23:23 , it says they tithe herbs or agricultural produce NO mention of money or income . http://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/23-23.htm |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 1:09pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: If Read my earlier posts. What christ fulfilled is not applicable . But the principles are still applicable . I may not offer burnt sacrifice . But God still receive my prayer, my work of service or my ficnancial giving as burnt sacrifice.
They don't give tithes and offerings of perishable things . They sell them and give tithes of the income .
Matthew 23:23 (NLT) 23 For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.
What christ fulfilled is spelt out in scripture . It's fulfilled in christ at salvation
Why are you attacking tithes . What about offering ? Why are you not attacking offering . What about alms to the poor . What about honoring your parents . Has christ fulfilled those ? Preachers are tithers and givers. Not collectors . Further evidence of Fraud! No such thing as income appeared in that verse , next time check a translation well before u use it . Here is the direct greek to English interlinear http://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/23-23.htm |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 1:02pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: Christ fulfilled circumcisiom . And it was spelt out. It's not every detail of the law that' applicable . Neither every detail are principles . Nobody asked u this, the point am driving at is Abraham does something doesnt make it binding on Christians. The way tithing is been done under the levitical priesthood of Aaron and his sons is very different from what Abraham gave has tithe . in other words , tithe is a part of the mosaic law and Jesus has done away with the burdens of that law . we dont need Levites anymore and the purpose of the tithing arrangement among the isrealites was to sustain the levitical priesthood since they won't have any inheritance among the isrealites. And since we dont use the levitical priesthood anymore, tithing is not a requirement for Christians . no wonder we dont see Any apostle or older men collecting tithe from their fellow Christian brothers |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 12:02pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: He's our ancestor also . He's our father of faith .
Galatians 3:14 (KJV Strong's) 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. That Abraham did something doesnt make it binding on Christians for example : he circumcised his whole household Yet Circumcision is not binding on Christians . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:59am On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: If Jesus taught that men should pay tithes . It shows his endorsement. That is all that counts. There's no place where God spoke against tithing. Jesus blood didn't pay for it either . His blood only made him highpriest over our tithes Stop preaching heresy, as at that time ... Tithe, and other mosaic laws are still in operation, Even when Jesus was born Mary went to the temple with two young turtledoves or pigeons as the law says, As at that time people still offer sacrifices in the temple and the altar, @ Matthew5:23 he taught on it , Do u still gift sacrifices on the altar ? . Even that Matthew 23:23 mentioned that the tithes are herbs or agricultural produces NOT money . The same Jesus support circumcision Read John 7:22-24, Yet its not binding on Christians , Nowhere do we read that preachers of the goodnews demand tithes from their fellow Christians . The obligation of Christians is to preach, and those sent out to preach are not to collect tithes - you even said it !!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 10:43am On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: They were only disciples not the pastors. Members of the church sent out to evangelise don't go about collecting offerings or tithes. There has to be an institution. Remember Jesus had tresurer. So it's not everyone to be going about collecting money . this response really shocked me, you know why: Because the scripture we are discussing actually says those who preach the gospel . hehehehehe thread closed with the bold , now If Jesus is the pastor, show me where he collect tithes even quoting malachi 3:10 ? With the bold, this thread should be closed, Jesus sent all his disciples out to evangelise , YEs or No ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 9:21am On Jan 27, 2017 |
petra1: He said the same way the ministers of the temple got their welfare . Same goes for the ministers of the gospel . It's tithes and offerings God had ordained . And recorded from Melchizedek to date Its like u dont know what you are typing bro. Things of the temple like like tithe or burnt offerings according to that Corinthians belong to those who partake and minister in the temple . And for your information, the Levitical temple era is gone .. So it futher said the Lord arranged that those who preach the goodnews should live by the goodnews Now when Jesus said those who preach the goodnews should live by the goodnews. Read your bible and listen to his instruction
" So stay in that house, eating and drinking the things they provide, for the worker is worthy of his wages " - Luke 10:7
Was Jesus reffering to tithe in this Instruction ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 6:16pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
snowblaq: ....you didnt hurt me...you could'nt..even if you tried....deeds already done.....and its past Its okay |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Faulty Christianity by CAPTIVATOR(op): 6:11pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 6:10pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
snowblaq: .... .and the best way to correct what is obviously a typo error is to insult......tnx all the same.....i'm not surprised. No insult intended , but that statement is not just right . imagine someone text you your best friend is dead only to tell you it was a typo error . How would u feel ? God is even more than that . he is the Living God " . but nevertheless if my approach hurts you , am sorry . Oya smile |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 5:57pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
ilynem: Tithing wasn't a law given by Moses. It was a thing even before Moses birth. Abraham paid tithe. Moses only modified it with the law. That modification was what was abolished with Jesus death. @ Bold , From his own possessions like you are doing ? Besides , give me solid evidence that Abraham tithe weekly and monthly as practiced in todays Church or just once ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 5:54pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
snowblaq: ...did the death of God also put an end to giving offrrings and doin the right things according to His will?....you know the truth..stop justifying your wrongs with old and New testaments....Your tithes belong to God....pay it God cannot die , stop speaking nonsense. Scripture says he is the King of eternity - 1 .Timothy 1:17 go study what that means |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CAPTIVATOR: 5:51pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
BERNIMOORE: Answer the question, ignore what you feel is rhetotorics i am fully waiting for meaningfull discussion, first what do you understand by 'after the order of melchizedek'? only with bible quotation! There is no way he will answer this without reffering to the earlier illustration you cited. Must not be from his possessions I even want him to prove to me that After that one incident, Abraham still continue to tithe weekly, monthly as practiced in todays So called Churches ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Mary Rise To Heaven Without Dying? by CAPTIVATOR: 4:05pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Except for Enoch and Elijah.  " and so death spread to ALL men because they had all sinned " - Romans 5:12
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Christianity Etc › Re: Everything About Christianity Is A Joke! - Facebook User by CAPTIVATOR: 5:46pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
He was making a reference to the Trinity doctrine . to belive the trinity , a person need to castrate their brain or put it on pause mode.
this has nothing to do with Christianity , thats where he err! |