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saintmark88:
I dnt blame u wen u close ur mind to c whts right under ur nose, ansa me...is a woman equal to a man??

A woman is not equal in authority with a man, She is under the authority of a man.

likewise:

saintmark88
I agree with u, Jesus is under the authority if God,

Jesus calling his Father " MY GOD " proved the Father is superior ! Rev 3:12

OLAADEGBU:
You are mixing issues here. The Scriptures you are referring to here is stressing the orderliness of God, the church and the family. He is not the God of confusion but of orderliness. There is orderliness in the Godhead, the church and the family.



Let me use another analogy you seem to be confusing order and essence together. You have one body. Is your head superior to the rest of the body? Can your head do without the body?



Christ is God and man is human. When we are talking about the body of Christ we should know that Christ is the head and the church is the body in that order.



The fact that man is the head of the woman in marriage does not imply that man is superior to the woman they are one human family. Likewise, in the Godhead, The Father is the head of Christ (the Son) but they are One God.



For a marriage as instituted by God to work as one unit it has to adhere to the injunction commanded by God for the man to be the head of the woman, which does not imply that the man is superior to the woman as many folks erroneously believe. It is in responsibilities. God also works in unity that is called the Tri-unity. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. The Son carries out the work that the Father initiates and the Holy Spirit completes it. It does not mean the One is superior to another it only shows the oneness and authority of God.

Dont forget You said :

OLAADEGBU :
Jesus shares equal authority with the Father

Only for you to now claim the said scripture refers to Orderliness, Even if that is the case. In line with Orderliness, Does a woman have or share equal Authority with A man ( Her Head) ? If no, can't you see the truth is staring at you that Your above quoted statement is a lie ?

Ken4Christ:
Your ignorance amazes me. Go and study your Bible with open mind and you will know the truth for yourself. JW say hell is grave. So it is not the same belief.

You are the ignorant one here, King James translate the Hebrew word " Sheol" as Grave/Hell

So they are right.

saintmark88:
Your analogy has done more good to the fact that Jesus is God, I agree with u, Jesus is under the authority if God, but does this make him less God. Does the fact that a woman is under d authority of a man make d woman less a human being than the man, that u r under d authority of ur boss in d office or ur traditional ruler or those whom God has placed over u in terms of authority mean tht u r less a human being than they are??

the Bold rules out the notion of Equality!!!

ajiboye007:
lol ....... true, the father is the highest authority, but does this denied the other member are human just like the father ? now read post and look at topic . was 1cor 11:3 talking about authority ? again u failed to see that the father is human just like the rest of member, the same son is God just like the father is God . now sallow this ....

john 17:5
5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

ask ur self what glory the father and son share togethe before the world begins ?

john 5:22-23
22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

pls tell us how the son will receive the same honor just like the father if they are not equal ?

What u refuse to understand is , the bible teach the son is word of the father , meaning the word is equal to father. because ur word ur is not lesser than u ,just as the same time ur is lesser to u because being the one that send the word
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Humans are GODS too. but we have a God


Do you accept that Jesus have a God ?

ajiboye007:
if aren't equal as u suggest, then tell me what the verse is talking about ?


God is the head of christ . just like a father is the head of a family. will u now say, because the father is the head of a family, this made other members of the family a lesser human ?

The bold is the main point, the Father been the HEAD of a family makes him the HIGHEST Authority in that Family, No one is equal in authority with him .

So also Christ is not equal in Authority with God ( 1 Cor 11:3)

oladoja1:
bro u fall my hand why u dey comment now, even d Christians themselves have started arguing, I only came to read and laugh at comments cause I know dey will definitely disagree. Bro Abeg next time no comment for this kind thing again, just read and Laugh at comments

The Bible established it that Jesus have a God.


"The one overcoming, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall not go out anymore. And I will write upon him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from My God, and My new name." - Jesus ( Revelation 3:12)

ajiboye007:
lol , ......did 1 Cor 11:3 says anything about jesus having a God ? lol u interpreted it that way ,even when the verse in question never mention ur conclusion. tell me why do u re-read ur own meaning into the verse ?

I only asked a question.

Does Jesus have a God ?

How true is this ?


Hope its not another stunt from bloggers ?

am not saying it can't be true, just trying to verify . Cos news this days are something else

I dont know If I understand your question, But there are some Screen shot apps on Google play that can also RECORD video screen as you are watching.

search for screenshot apps, Many of them have the ability to Record screen too.

The moral of everything is never compare your life with that of another, and Never measure your success from the Yardstick of another , different Circumstances surround each person


If you excel, its because the circumstance you found yourself Favours you ( like Good parents, Fine Financial background, Good health etc )

there are some who are brilliant too, but doesn't have all this things, only struggling on their own ... in short, You must not mock them . ( take it or leave it , the same fate await us all ;GRAVE .. and no one knows what their life can be tommorow irrespective of how intelligent we are or office/rank , Health crisis, Attacks etc can claim anyone's life at anytime )

make the best use of your time and trust In God in all you do. Bible also warns , Never ever compare your life with that of another



Galatians 6:4

" But let each one examines his own actions, and then he will have cause for rejoicing in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person "



You can only rejoice and find satisfaction when you think about how God has blessed you, comparing yourself with another person would do nothing but ROB you of that joy .

talk4free:
You seem to be mocking him. Hope you realize your being in Uniben and him in laspotech doesn't mean your future is definitely brighter.

Fact!

ajiboye007:
lol .............. how does that different when he called that person FATHER ?

the post is for muslim or any christian who thinks is not God .

U must be a comedian. Read the title of the thread, and answer ; Does Jesus have a God ?

ajiboye007:
this shows how silly ur argument is in first place , if ur logic is silly ,then u will get a silly answer that when u will realise how silly u sound .


if frobel, was consistent with with his logic he or she wont have ask a silly question.

what is this one saying. I asked you a question which you are expected to reply based on 1 Cor 11:3, If God is the head of Christ does that not prove Christ is under the authority of God and he is not equal with God?

whats the silly question ? @ bold

john 17:21
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Oneness doesnt mean equality, if so according to this verse we are equal with Jesus and his Father since he said " just as " .

God is the head of Christ. Explain ?

ajiboye007:
DOES JESUS HAVE A GOD ?

i believe some of us must have hard this ,can God have a God ?. this is one of questions muslims use to joke around in other mock christians and to say jesus is not God .

the jew of that time were confused just like today muslim, they believe jesus was a lair for claiming to be God.
John 8:19
"Where is Your Father?" they asked Him. "You do not know Me or My Father," Jesus answered. "If you knew Me, you would know My Father as well."

yeah if muslim truly knew who jesus is ,they won't be asking ''can God have a God".

john 14:7-9
… 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.” 8 Philip said to Him, “Lord,
show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.” 9 Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?…

the statement jesus made, my God why do u forsake me. jesus was merely reciting a psalms to the fulfilment of what is written about him . the statement have nothing to do with one God begging or asking another God for help as muslim suggests.

Matthew 11:27
"My Father has entrusted everything to me. No one truly knows the Son except the Father, and no one truly knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."

my conclusion, its impossible to know who God is or to know who father is , if the critics does not know who the son is ,and only the son reveal them to who he pleases with ......

MAKE NO MISTAKES JESUS IS GOD .

The mistake you always make is thinking that people are trying to downplay the vital role of Christ in Gods purpose when they point to Scriptures showing HE HAS A GOD, no one is downplaying Christ ... we are only showing the truth of the scripture

At Revelation 3:12 , Christ call someone My GOd , does that not prove He Has a God above him ?

ajiboye007:
if God doesn't be his own head, then u will his head right ?

it will be abnormal for a full human to have a goat head , but its normal for human to have a human head . so it's right for God to be his own head
.

You don't know how silly you people always sound, The scripture quoted by frosbel says The head of A man is Christ, going by your logic at bold , Does it mean we are EQUAL and SAME with Christ ? answer this then we can proceed

OLAADEGBU:

Jesus shares equal authority with the Father because He is God. Can you see yourselves being replicated with the Scribes and Pharisees who refused to see because of their rigidity to comply to their tradition and religion?

Gentleman, I didnt ask for your personal philosophy which you vomit up there , Simple ... 1 Corinthians 11:3 says God is the head of Christ . Does that not clearly spell it out that Christ is under the authority of God ?

going by your logic, can we say Man and woman are equal in authority too since they are contrasted in that same scripture , If No! that means Just as Man is the head of a woman and a woman is under the authority of a Man, Christ is also under the authority of God.

1 Cor 11:3 reads " But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; "
OLAADEGBU , does this mean man is equal with Christ ? or under the authority of Christ ? am sure you will agree with me that the bold is correct

it continues

" in turn, the head of a woman is the man;

OLAADEGBU, does this mean man is equal in authority with a woman? or that A woman is under the authority of A Man ? am sure you will agree with me that the bold is correct !

it continues

" in turn, the head of the Christ is God "

exact same wording with the other 2 examples above , Does this not also clearly spell it out that just as a man is under the authority of Christ, As a woman is under the authority of a man, THAT Christ is also under the authority of God ?

prepared4Heaven:
On point!

and what exactly is on point in that post ?

OLAADEGBU:
From God of course. .

From God, Just like Moses and others got their power and authority from God.., SO How can you be equal in authority with someone WHO GAVE YOU the Power you had ? OLAADEGBU, stop deceiving yourself.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English

". .. then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him "


GOD'S WORD® Translation
" ... the Son will put himself under God's authority " 1 Corinthians 15:28

tylesh:
Did you say three reasons? This recession alone is enough reason to be single,because all i can think about now is how to make money not one relationship that will give me headache.

Lol, Ty ... nevertheless that doesn't mean the romantic side of you won't crave for love when it finds that special person.

cremedelacreme:
It's only on anonymous forums like Nairaland that I post crazy things. I dare not try it on other social media platforms where my identity is known.

Who told you its anonymous ?

OLAADEGBU:
If you are well versed in the Bible you should be able to see the oneness, sameness and likeness of Jesus Christ in authority and power with God the Father. Why would you allow rigidity in your religion and tradition to hinder you from seeing that Jesus continues the work that the Father has started and they are inseparable? The Jews of His days made the same mistake when they allowed their religion to blindfold them from seeing Jesus as the Christ.

"The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed" (John 5:10).

"The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven" (John 6:41).

You will not come to Christ and you prevent others who truly believe from coming to Christ because of the rigidity of your traditions.

"Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews. Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?" (John 7:13-15)

"These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue" (John 9:22).

Christ is still under the authority Of God (1 Corinthians 11:3 )

OLAADEGBU:
Nicodemus acknowledged not only that Jesus comes from God but that no man or prophet could do those works which Jesus did. Jesus did the works only God could do which proves that Jesus is one with God, they are inseparable in character, in attributes and in Power.

Now If Jesus comes from God, from where do you think the power he used to perform those works is gotten ?

JMAN05:
Why do u believe in hellfire?, let's start from there

Very good question

OLAADEGBU:
The holy scriptures are only ambiguous to those whose eyes had been darkened. Let the Sun of righteousness shine in your heart so that you can see with the eyes of your understanding. Here are other verses that show who the Lord Jesus Christ is:

"If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated me and my Father" (John 15:24).

"There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him" (John 3:1-2).

We can see from the verses above that Jesus shares the same attributes with God. No man can do the same work that God does except Christ. Even Nicodemus acknowledged that truth. Do you?

You mean you didn't see where Nicodemus said Jesus comes FROM God, he didnt say Jesus is God Almighty... the point is God was with him . God is with someone doesnt make them the supreme being.

Ken4Christ:
JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17)
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Must your hate make you spread false messages, JW belive in Hell [ Heb: Sheol, Greek: Hades] ... and according to the scriptures everyone is going there [Eccl 9:5,10] , even Job prayed to go there .

Origamist:
he said the article has been deleted,but i can still see it under the buzz section on pulseng.
Sumtin's wrong somewhere.if pia mia had sampled the song,that's understandable ;but copying erythang (even the title?) is an amateurish move(if true).

@ bold, I dont really know much about music ... But have noticed some certain artists featuring the same title and lyrics yet there is no problem with them , As an example; Aint no sunshine by Bill Withers was equally sang by other artists including Micheal Jackson. Another is Bryan Adams "Everything I do" equally sang by Brandy . same lyric , same title . Probably it has to do with their genre of music . but what I know is there is no controversy surrounding theirs

I dont know what the writer of these article mean by "find a way to know your partner during coursthip " , But if it means Been alert to signs that indicate their ability to procreate even if there is no sex before the marriage . Its okay


Besides, No sex before Marriage doesn't mean all form of Affections are forbidden ( The Shulamite girl and her Sheperd boy in the songs of Solomon no doubt express some affections, Only that care is exercised so as not to fall into immorality ... Am a supporter of NO SEX before marriage, yet There will be moments two people who Love each other and wish to spend their lives together will share together through which you both can decipher the person's sexuality even without having sex before marriage. So thats why I dont buy all this crap story of impotent or whatever that people spread around to justify immorality .

for those saying you need to sleep with each other to know your sexuality, HOW MANY MEN OR WOMEN WILL YOU SAMPLE before seeing the one that met your sexual needs ? i wont be surprised if such a man or woman starts to cheat in the marriage or become loose after tasting different men and women before the marriage

DavidEsq:
Just to think of the pain and the shame. It's it's hard to look at upon dis spouse without a deep-seated resentment mixed revulsion. I really don't think things wld ever be the same. I don't want to end it but how can one really move past dis?
I try to focus on d good side, but all dis shit comes flooding back to me. There is too much argument and harsh tones, but so much has been built (at least I think so) and I want a way forward.

Its really a very mentally stressing situation Bro, But there is an article that treats this subject . Keys to Family Happiness, REBUILDING TRUST

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012326
If you would like to read it , here is the link above . There are experiences of people who have gone through the same situation in the article and how they were able to cope.

Hairyrapunzel:
Flawed logic. Paul told only gentiles to abstain from blood and the Jews were not eating blood of animals sacrificed or for food. Paul would have included the Jews if he meant abstaining from any new thing he included.


Do you really abstain from blood by accepting autologous blood transfusion, factor 9 and 8, albumin, rhogam and immunoglobulins?

I am abstaining from blood if I am being transfused according to acts 21

You didnt answer my question, Dont be disorganized . you said does a person accepting a transplant means the person eats the organ , to which I replied : the force in that scripture is " Abstain From " .

So The question should have been DO YOU REALLY ABSTAIN FROM AN ORGAN, IF YOU ACCEPT IT TO BE TRANSPLANTED IN YOU ?

Hairyrapunzel:
Eating and drinking occurs only via the mouth. Alcohol is never transfused biko. Alcohol is absorbed in the stomach no enzyme acts on it so alcohol gets into the blood vessels unchanged so if given iv it won't change it is still alcohol. If you eat blood it will be broken down by enzymes into nutrients. If blood is transfused it does not change it goes into the circulatory system like that same blood. Blood transfusion is a form of transplant. Blood transfusion is not food it does not provide nurients for the body. The reason we eat is basically for provision of nutrients


If an organ is transplanted does that mean the recipient is eating it?


You accept autologous blood transfusion and fractions of blood but your bible says abstain from blood transfusion or rather Nathan knorr in 1945 said so. Hypocrisy.

Flawed logic @ Bold , The question should have been DO YOU REALLY ABSTAIN FROM AN ORGAN, IF YOU ACCEPT IT TO BE TRANSPLANTED IN YOU ?