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Hairyrapunzel:
Smh. You support holy war yet you say war is bad #hypocrisy. You say Murder is bad but it is okay for your Jehovah to commit mass murder of all non jws in Armageddon. #Hypocrisy

Shows your main driving force is fear of dying with non jws in Armageddon not any love for Jehovah.

Keep showing your weird and inhumane beliefs. I don't blame you. You joined a religion where they lack essence of humanity.

I think your new system will be like north Korea where you will be punished for your thoughts.

Hairyrapunzel:
But I know their greatest joy is entering a new
system

Hairyrapunzel:
and wanting armaggeddon to come

purem:
Now u can misinterpret my msg, it's a sign that this set of people run away from reality.

U shud av just ignore since u don't want me to mention u

Bolaji21:
This is obviously not your work (copy and paste). But since you decided to share it. I'll like to learn. I read all the verses you quoted, but I couldn't see where the Bible asserts that The Earth is a flat disk in shape, like a dinner plate, and rests upon mountain pillars..

Or did you forgot to add one more verse?

Hairyrapunzel:
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Still doesn't change the fact that your imperfect gb tells people to shun family and friends if those people disagree with the imperfect gb teaching which are non biblical.

Do you know that it is only a cult that punishes people from leaving it?
The punishment is shunning which is emotional blackmail
And do you think it's only when you don't believe in Jesus you are an atheist? Stop your black and white thinking
Well he doesn't want his family members to ostracize him.
He shouldn't be punished or shunned by his family and friends for not believing imperfect gb members teaching [/s]

Hairyrapunzel:
Read your Bible and you will see discipleship ain't about following the doctrines coined by imperfect men
Continue cursing. Because you love cursing.
Calling someone a coward because he cares about his family shows you to be a psychopath
Maybe you lack empathy and compassion but he shows both.
He has learned to think critically
People cannot leave your cult without loosing their families what a cult
You are bullying him and it is wrong. You know that if he leaves your religion his family will stop talking to him and you throw Matt 10 like he is leaving your cult to follow Jesus so he should forget about his family because according to you Jesus requires it of him since he believes his family isn't following Jesus. SMH
What if he doesn't want to follow Jesus Christ?
I think you are the coward here

Hairyrapunzel:
So someone that preached love even loving your enemies came to divide families and put them against each other right?
Read the whole chapter
It is like your Jesus Christ has come to divide op family because he doesn't agree with imperfect gb about non biblical interpretation of the Bible eg discouraging higher education.
Your Jesus Christ has come to put his father, mother, siblings and friends against op because he doesn't agree with wrong Bible interpretation of 7 imperfect men in New York aka gb.

Hairyrapunzel:
If your imperfect gb members say you should be a robot and not have feelings good for you
Op is human and cares about his family members. It doesn't affect the love he has for Jesus Christ.
Stop the guilt trip it is irritating. You can't hide your happiness at seeing families break.
Stop trying to make it look like if he leaves the organization he will be the one shunning them
We know his family will be pressured into cutting off all contact with him because your imperfect gb says so

We both know that your belief says that if he leaves your organization it is equivalent with leaving Jehovah and his family still in should shun him because they love Jehovah and the organization more. This is also your imperfect gb teaching

Hairyrapunzel:
Normal jw way always cursing. He doesn't want his family and friends to stop talking to him or cease contact with him.
Jesus would care for his family and friends. Like I said loving Jesus Christ does not mean you will cut ties with your family
Then he is serving Jesus if he doesn't love his family in the first place
Don't justify evil deeds. There is nowhere Jesus Christ told his followers that if they don't agree with imperfect gb beliefs they should stop talking to their families

Hairyrapunzel:
It's your case that is Critical.

Spiritual education and higher education are entirely two different things with two different outcomes.

Hairyrapunzel:
Don't try to hide the fact that in your religion when you leave or don't agree with imperfect men teaching they will tell your family and friends to shun you

Don't try to turn it. If you are following Jesus doesn't mean you will have to stop talking or associating with your friends and family
He knows if he leaves his family and friends will stop talking to him .
Cutting ones social support system is the worst criminal offence.
Op is human that he has decided to stay doesn't mean he is putting his family before Jesus it just shows he cares
Jesus never said his followers should stop talking to OR cut all ties with their families so they can love him more.

I don't know any passage in the Bible that says only when you stop talking to your family and friends or stop associating with them or cut all ties with them that you love Jesus more
Or any passage that says your family and friends should shun you because you disagree with imperfect gb member non biblical teaching

Hairyrapunzel:
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Hairyrapunzel:
Nobody is slandering you. Your leaders the 7 imperfect men in New York aka gb say getting a higher education means lacking faith. This is not and will never be a biblical teaching. That is why your imperfect gb are abusive towards higher education. It is called being unreasonable
Thank God the Bible never said if we don't agree with 7 imperfect men in New York's non biblical stance then we are unreasonable




This is a straw man fallacy, because regardless of how important a spiritual education may be, it does not enable a person to enter professional occupations which a parent cannot teach except their children get a higher education. Getting a spiritual education should never be placed above getting a higher education. And higher education should never be discouraged because of spiritual education.

Hairyrapunzel:
But Jesus never said whoever says what the imperfect gb teaches is non biblical and doesn't agree with their own interpretation is not worthy of me

Jesus did not say who ever leaves Jehovah witnesses church is not worthy of me

Jesus did not say whosoever doesnt believe in watchtower organization interpretation of the Bible is not worthy of me.

Jesus was referring to himself he wasn't talking about any church or religious leaders

That you don't believe or you don't agree with imperfect gb non biblical beliefs or teaching is not hating and will never be hating Jesus. Except you are saying imperfect gb members are now Jesus Christ.

Hairyrapunzel:
So from your explanation because people choke when eating therefore eating is bad
Higher education is never and will never be a disease. It is a necessity and avoiding it should never be preached. religious extremists always discourage some or all forms of education

Discouraging people from getting higher education is a tool used by your imperfect men to limit the contact with people who are not jws


Your leaders don't want people to question their interpretation of the Bible and also they want cheap and free labour period.

mikeolu1:
A teenager who got baptized at 13 and who changed his mind not to be a witness at 17 will be shunnned by parents. Think about that for a minute.
Many present Jw got baptized as a teenager, they can't leave because their entire existence is a tied to agreeing with the gb.
No record of people getting baptized as a teenage in d Bible.
There is a reason why teenagers are not allowed to get married because they can't get into lifelong commitment, but in jw land, that doesn't matter.

mikeolu1:
Thanks for your advice. I will get out when I safely can.
There are thousands in my situation; bethelites, COs, hundred of elders- I am one.
All letters to BOE are online even before elders get them. Those are coming from leaking in bethel.
Convention talk outlines are on the internet. That's coming from some COs
So, many of us are mentally out but physically in just to protect whatever we seem as important.
This is not the truth and you will sooner or later realize that fact.

mikeolu1:
By the way, I am not leaving for family reasons

Hairyrapunzel:
Smh







Like I have said before that someone criticizes your doctrines doesn't mean he hates you or is abusive towards you

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Why do you people always associate higher education with immoral activities? Good things happen and good people are seen in tertiary institutions. Why focus only on bad and immoral things? Stop being deceitful. You know people who became something else when they attended uni that still doesn't make higher education bad.



So tertiary education now causes calamity. Interesting. Like I said there are good sides in getting a higher education why focus only on the bad side? So what calamities befall those who get higher education?



So safeguarding a relationship is means not getting a higher education? Interesting
God never said higher education is bad your imperfect gb said so. So the only relationship you are safe guarding is that with your gb.
So discouraging higher education means increasing riches with God. Smh
Saying getting a higher education is lack of faith in your god is a wrong teaching because it isn't biblical

Hairyrapunzel:
But leaving the organization will make my family and friends shun him because the imperfect men directed them to shun me

triplec93:
It means you have a problem comprehending the English language, what is the difference blw associate and fellowship or stop associating/disassociate(as used in the scriptures) to disfellowship? pls you have an opinion and you can keep to it, but the truth remains the truth. I'm done with this thread.

 " But these men are speaking abusively
about all the things they really do not understand. ."

kingJoya:
Happy sunday nairalanders, I am curious, whenever something tragic happens. It is attributed as God's will. Recently my cousin's wife died after an illness of just three days at a very young age, 34 year old to be precise. This has left my cousin and the entire family very devastated. Now my anger is that, everyone keep saying its God's will. And my question is, why will God allow this , why will he allow my cousin to be alone at his young age, why did he leave the kids motherless at their tender age. Is God really aware of all this tragic happenings?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying a woman regardless of whether she is married to the man or not is not equal to the man?

johnw74:
ha ha, cap, you don't understand your own posted verse, oh false accusing one

English Standard Version
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, - Phil 2:6
7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant,[a] being born in the likeness of men.

though Jesus was in the form of God, He did not, yes that's right, did not, count equality with God a thing to be grasped - held onto, but emptied Himself and became a man

KJV Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

and here's another for you to disbelieve cap, there are many verses that are clear,
in fact they all are, but not to you :

GOD'S WORD Php 2:6  Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality. 
Php 2:7  Instead, he emptied himself by taking on the form of a servant, by becoming like other humans, by having a human appearance.


You also disbelieved this verse which backed up the KJV verse I posted about Jesus being equal to God.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


You such a denier of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, you must be a false jw

Mat_10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Hairyrapunzel:
Is a woman a lesser human being than a man?

johnw74:
Jesus calling His Father " MY GOD " proved the Father is Jesus God, nothing more,
you read and add into scriptures things that are not there,

saintmark88:
How about n terms of nature??

johnw74:
When being the Word of God, Jesus is equal to Father:

Php 2:6  Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God
: 
Php 2:7  But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:


Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.