Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 3:44pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
johnw74: solite has already explained but false jw love to lie and repeat their lies
There is only one true God, God and the Word is God as scripture shows
"humans" and your "satan" and your "a god" and your "an angel" and your two god's "an almighty god" who is your false jehovah, and a "mighty god" who is your false jesus. are all false god's
There is one true God, not two or many
I have posted many scriptures on these things and on your other false doctrines as well, which satans disciples of course did not believe
about Jesus calling Father God read at link below, also there's much more on it if you really want to know which you don't, but I post for the benefit of those who do want to know.
Jesus called Father God Lolzzzzzzzz @ bold , who is the Only true God ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 3:41pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
brocab: Just read {John 1:1} [size=26] this scripture spells it out pretty clearly who is the "ONE GOD" [/size] Of course your bible says otherwise-but as we all know, you don't know-what we know, and the Spirit of God is not in you-for you to know. UV started your lies as usual Show me " ONE GOD " @ john 1:1 ? and two , who did the scripture call the ONE GOD ? this two will expose your lies |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 3:37pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=47526635][/quote]God call humans Gods . according to the scriptures .
Satan is called God too - 2 cor 4:4
once again, God in what sense ? a mighty one or the supreme Being !!! answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 4:59am On Jul 14, 2016 |
solite3: don't lie John I:1 clearly refers to Jesus as God. God in what sense pls ? MOST HIGH ?. Because the same scripture refer to humans , Satan as God too. It doesn't matter what we think what matter is the scriptures we then adjust our human thinking to God's word not the other way round. No wonder you added 'a god' to ur bible. ur human thinking is that Jesus and his father are same God , and the scripture proves that false when it said The Father is the God of Jesus . simple and clear point showing they are not the same God as u proposed . so adjust |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 4:54am On Jul 14, 2016 |
johnw74: ha ha exposed by false jw, that'll be the day.
You haven't a clue even with the verse telling you, God and the Word is God you are scared of been exposed  , again I ask : who is the only true God ? Look we know you don't understand the Bible and you cannot understand the Bible, the Holy Spirit is needed and a power can't do it, it takes God. And of course changing what the Bible says, having false man made doctrines etc. shows you are satans disciples.
I was going to say just believe the Bible, but as if that would happen. haba, simple scriptural analysis . the scripture itself proves u lied when it said THE FATHER is the God of Jesus . thus proving they are. not the same God . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 4:51am On Jul 14, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=47515090][/quote]Scripture that said Jesus and his Father are " ONE GOD " ?
* the Father is the God of Jesus ! anytime, anyday . this won't be possible if they are the same God. comprehend ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 5:48pm On Jul 13, 2016 |
johnw74: and I say to you: get a Bible and read, and throw away your corrupted writings to where they belongs.
If you believed the Bible you would know that John 1:1 does make Jesus to be the same God, there is only one true God, and God and the word are said to be God. There are not two gods, a almighty god and a mighty god, with one of them being "an angel". Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. There you have it Jesus is the same God, not "a god' or "an Angel", but God. okay, who is the only one true God ? @ underlined. this is enough to expose you The Word was with God, shows that the Word and God are two persons, and children could tell you that the Father and the Son are two persons.
Yes John 1:2 also shows them to be two persons Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
duh, your confusion comes from believing your elders over the Bible, and from loving lies.
you just prove my point, two persons cannot be the same God. this is more evident from the truth that One is the God of another ( the Father is the God of Jesus ) , this won't happen if both are same God . get that into your head!
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 5:52am On Jul 13, 2016 |
johnw74: To all false jw dolphinhearts above confusion and continued and repeated twisting of words which is lies, and to the lengthy posts designed to get away from the simple matter at hand, and that is that false jw dolphinheart called God and the Word "a two headed god".
lie lie is playing on words, which is lying, he uses every means of lying known, he said he didn't say God and the Word is a two headed god, while using words that mean the same thing, it's just another way of lying, so lets use his exact words.
The opening post was about John 1:1, and God and the Word, and the Word being God
You lie lie dolphinheart said: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."
You are talking off "God and Jesus",
and you said: "if you make Jesus to be that same God"
as John 1:1 makes Jesus to be that same God, and as the opening post is about
"then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."
Of course it's very clear to all except those entrenched in lies, that you were referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god", but twist your words some more lie lie, and tell me who you are calling "a two headed god" if not the Word being that same God, if not Jesus being that same God.
Who was you referring to as "a two headed god" if not God and the Word?
Truth doesn't require a long and evasive post, just a honest answer, like:
I was referring to "God and the Word" being a two headed God or I was referring to "Tom and Jerry" being a two headed god. dust off your bible and read, John 1:1 did not make Jesus to be that same God . what do u think about this statement " the Word was WITH God" ? does that not distinguish them so also john 1:2 , both are clearly distinguished from each other. |
Phones › Re: MTN Customer Care Thread by CAPTIVATOR: 8:42pm On Jul 12, 2016*. Modified: 5:43am On Jul 13, 2016 |
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Phones › Re: Itel To Release It1556 With A Massive 5000mAh Battery - First Pictures by CAPTIVATOR: 10:12pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
prinzfunchi: My mom's own takes about 6hours to charge from 0 to 100.. Are you using the charger that came with it? 6 hours ? mine doesn't take that long. Yes bro, am using the Charger that came with it . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Portugal Vs France : Euro 2016 Final - (1 - 0) On 10th July 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 9:13pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
ojeota: As in eh..... I now regretting why i supported france in the last match. Germany plays' entertaining football at every level. Luck was not on their side in their match against france. Yes, Germans are the real deal. Watching their matches will make anyone love the game of football |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Portugal Vs France : Euro 2016 Final - (1 - 0) On 10th July 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 9:08pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
Rikidony: ronaldo absence has destroyed my interest in this game Makes me remember that moment Neymar was stretched out of the Brazil squad at the 2014 World cup |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Portugal Vs France : Euro 2016 Final - (1 - 0) On 10th July 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 7:19pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
Kelvin0: See Person wey dey rely on Etisalat free 15mb data after Recharge dey promise to do sub for another person.
Portugal will win n i'll quote u to do that sub...  |
Phones › Re: Itel To Release It1556 With A Massive 5000mAh Battery - First Pictures by CAPTIVATOR: 6:32pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
prinzfunchi: I'm guessing that's 1506.. My mum uses it.. Does your device charge slow? yeah 1506, it doesn't charge slow bro |
Sports › Re: Copa America Centenario Final. Argentina Vs Chile by CAPTIVATOR: 11:14am On Jun 27, 2016 |
I read aguero saying many other players might follow this guy into international retirement.
but I don't see any reason to retire now, though i must admit the atmosphere is emotional for him. But @ least he still made a mark for Argentina in 2005 and the Olympics , so why quit ? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Germany Vs Slovakia: Euro 2016 (3 - 0) oN 26th June 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 7:02pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: France Vs Republic Of Ireland: Euro 2016 (2 - 1) On 26th June 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:54pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: France Vs Republic Of Ireland: Euro 2016 (2 - 1) On 26th June 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:40pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: France Vs Republic Of Ireland: Euro 2016 (2 - 1) On 26th June 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:15pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
Viccur: FRANCE WILL SCORE BEFORE '85 hmm this competition and late goals |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: France Vs Republic Of Ireland: Euro 2016 (2 - 1) On 26th June 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:15pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
Viccur: FRANCE WILL SCORE BEFORE '85 hmm this competition and late goals ehn |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: France Vs Republic Of Ireland: Euro 2016 (2 - 1) On 26th June 2016 by CAPTIVATOR: 2:45pm On Jun 26, 2016 |
Lol, well this is football . anything can happen
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Sports › Re: Am Disappointed In Ronaldo by CAPTIVATOR(op): 7:06pm On Jun 22, 2016*. Modified: 7:23pm On Jun 22, 2016 |
Haaaaaaa, but this people have small mentality
such is life, Iceland won't do anything at euro . now see what happens
don't misquote me, am not mocking Portugal or Cr7 , not at all . but am only Reenforcing the key lesson I learn from this : which is, I should never belittle anyone . or think am better than them |
Phones › Re: Itel To Release It1556 With A Massive 5000mAh Battery - First Pictures by CAPTIVATOR: 8:06pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
wow, even the itel am currently using that has 3600mah battery capacity is Sooo great , I charge at my convenience.
how will 5000mah now look like ? wondering |
Sports › Am Disappointed In Ronaldo by CAPTIVATOR(op): 5:35pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Am the type that believes football is fun, I see it as a form of entertainment and when I see a good player I say they are good , such is Ronaldo
but after their game against Iceland , am so dissapointed with his comment that Iceland players have " small mentality" ... its demeaning . though those guys might not be popular or the best , they give everyone a surprise ! its their first time ever , and a draw against Portugal shows they are determined
referring to them in such tone is absurd , to add petrol to the fire , he said they won't do anything in the tournament , its bad even if they won't , beside nobody knows. nobody can predict football this days, like last premier league is a typical example, and Brazil's group stage exit from copa america is another example . nobody can predict
just this afternoon , I read the reply of some Iceland players , they are really embarassed with his remark and one said Messi will never say that - I don't know, but he might be right.
Ronaldo is good , but pride is before a crash .. he should take things easy
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 7:34pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
solite3: hmm the word create as used there doesn't literally mean to create but a poetical way of expression if you are a literature student you will understand what I mean. Consider this The Lord created me as the origin( or first cause) of his works before his acts of old I was set up from everlasting before the earth was The word 'create' can also be translated as establish or put forth or to possess If we were to interpret that verse literally, it would mean that wisdom was eternally with God and what God used in creation. Now I asked you what MADE means u started babbling . create doesnt literally mean create  see your life |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 7:30pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
zodiakzax: thoes used there is not "god", in the beginning was the word. And the word was with God (theon) and same theos was used when in " and the Word was God (theos). What right do you have to render it " god"? Pls am waiting for the same verse from your KIT (kingdom Interlinear greek bible). Quote from the KIT bfr we continue this argument. If you can't then I suggest you shut up. Plus your friend said " God" not "god". @ bold , the New World translation is not the only version that render theos as god in john 1:1, Reason is : The word need to be distinguished from the God . those who render it as the Word was God are actually saying the Word was with God ( the Word ) ... Do we have two Words ? You cant be with yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Invented The Trinity? by CAPTIVATOR: 7:23pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
Emusan: Lol...please be surprised about your delusion.
The summary of your confusion is this:
1. You claimed now that the context of NAME in Matt 28:19 means "in the power or authority of" not a personal name."
Now focusing on the 'OF'
2. It means The Father has His own Power or Authority, The Son has His own power or Authority likewise the Holy spirit has His own power or Authority.
3. By inserting it let see the meaning "...in the power or authority of the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit"
4. This negate your believe that Holy spirit is the active force of God because according to you the Holy spirit has His own power or authority.
IN ADDITION, this is how you'll know that you people are great perverter of the word of God, now for you to dismiss the evidence of Matt 28:19 you interpreted the name as POWER OR AUTHORITY but when when Jesus said "He has manifested the NAME of the Father" you people said Jesus meant Jehovah whereas the position of scholars here is that the name in John 17:6 means power or authority.
Holy spirit is called by these names in the scripture: The Spirit & Spirit of God just as Jesus is called The word & word of God. Same as the power of Love or authority of the Law . smh for u , no wonder noted trinitarian sef said Noted trinitarian scholars McClintock and Strong say in their Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature concerning Matthew 28:18-20: "This text, however, taken by itself, would not prove decisively either the personality of the three subjects mentioned, or their equality or divinity. " (1981 reprint, Vol. X, p. 552) And trinitarian scholar Kittel in his Theological Dictionary of the New Testament: "The N[ew] T[estament] does not actually speak of triunity. We seek this in vain in the triadic formulae " You are still babbling man, give us the personal name of the holyspirit ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 7:03pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
zodiakzax: so if the greek lacks the definite article "The" what right have you to add an indefinite article "A"? Your brother in your cult said " A GOD" not "a god" why did he use big G instead of small. Please go back to your Kingdom Interlinear greek Bible (KIT), your own greek to English translation and check John 1:1 out and let's see how it's rendered pls. KIT is a watch tower publication, just thought. You should know. God or god ... The greek word remains theos. Wait, is it wrong to translate theos as god ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 7:02pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
alexis: Revelation 3:14 declares: "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.’" Using these words, Jehovah’s Witnesses claim Jesus to be the first creation of Almighty God and therefore, not God. The only problem here is the actual text. The word translated "beginning" (Gk. arche) here actually means "source." In other words, it means "beginning" as in the first cause, not in the sense of being the "first effect." Arche is used as such elsewhere in the book of Revelation. In chapter 21, verse 6, Almighty God says: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end . . ." Do we want to say God was created because arche is used to describe him? By no means! Understood properly, Revelation 3:14 reveals Jesus to be the source of God’s creation—God himself. This fits perfectly with John’s christological declaration in John 1:1-3: the Word created "all things . . . and without him was made nothing that was made." If the Word was created, he would have had to create himself, which is absurd. Jesus is the beginning of Gods creation - Rev3:14 The Father is the source of all creation not Jesu , dont u read 1 cor 8:6 " the Father , FROM WHOM ALL THINGS ARE " !!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 6:58pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
alexis: I have addressed this already. The manuscript never used the word CREATE Bros. You simpletons are brained washed with JW doctribe The greek ekitse means what ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 6:57pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
solite3: I think Alexis is speaking to the Jws, he is right the word made or possess is not used the way Jws think it is. MADE means what ? Cos sometimes i wonder how u guys think |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 6:55pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
zodiakzax: You accept it should be "God"? Wonderful. So why Then did your people use "a god"? Do you now doubt your bible? Also note that "in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God. This is Almighty God we are talking about here and the scripture there is referring to God Almighty. If you agree it Should be God then am sorry you don't have a point anymore. You pple are confused. Did. The greek greek say "A God"? Or God, please reference me any greek mss you have. Since u like using greek. The greek lacks the definite article " the" in reference to the Word. Smh Plus You still lack understanding on the Prov 8 and the link we shared. Oga u who has understanding, answer his question ? |