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solite3:
Jesus has two nature God and man.

how does this answer my question: Mary gave birth to God manifested in flesh ? yes or no

Strong delusion
then that means He is not even equal in nature with his Father, To be equal in nature with his Father. his Father must also have two nature ( 2=2 ) , does his Father have two natures ?

LordIsaac:
Hebrews 9:27 has your answer which over rules every other answer. It reads: "it is appointed for a man to die once, and after that, the judgement."

your point ?

solite3:
where did I say so?

seems you are confused or sleeping when u said Jesus the man is Different from God, is Jesus just a man while on earth or Mary gave birth to God ?

solite3:
you should have addressed my posts. I told you Jesus the man is different from God do you agree?


When Jesus died did God die?
When Jesus slept did God sleep?

that means he wasnt God when on earth ?

Einl:
You go 'gree come do ATM custodian work during the Christmas period?

Bro, I realize that people cant really understand some things about a Job until they are in the system of such Job. No amount of explanation will make them see that practical is different from the Theoretical knowledge they dish out online

femarse:
if any of the people complaining here are allow to run a bank for a week the banking industry will collapse finally as a matter of fact
real bank staff has told you the situation of things and u still open your dirty mouth to support a stupid faceless and nameless journalist my branch ATM was loaded twice on Friday and twice on Saturday
I mean loaded to the maximum brim and after every three house the machine has cash out I wonder what is making people to withdraw this mad
Na we u want kill abi because of your need of cash we will not have our own life again abi? we should sit in the office and keep loading the machine every time the machine cash out abi from Saturday through Sunday through today public holiday abi? because we don't have personal life of our own ? how are we paid that is worth us not having a day for ourselves to sit down with family and watch TV
everyday it's ATM wahala we load load load and leg will be paining one seriously cos the machine will not pass test dispense on time
and u all sit down in your house complaining
go and work in the bank and see the wahala that thing call ATM can give u

lol you nail it Bro, ATM is really stressful especially when sorting Cash for ATM.

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AyamConfidence:
what is the truth....this is a perfect organization put in the care of imperfect humans...the Bible says that the light keeps getting brighter and brighter until the day is firmly established... we are not afraid to admit and adjust our past understanding

beautiful @ bold , " Finally brothers , continue ... to be readjusted " 2 Cor 13:11


many of those accusing the witnesses of Father Jehovah have long standing heresies they know its wrong but refuse to adjust . e.g immortal soul, trinity , purgatory , hellfire e.t.c. they are just not adjustable. more like stagnant waters

AyamConfidence:
what is the truth....this is a perfect organization put in the care of imperfect humans...the Bible says that the light keeps getting brighter and brighter until the day is firmly established... we are not afraid to admit and adjust our past understanding

beautiful @ bold , " Finally brothers , continue ... to be readjusted " 2 Cor 13:11



many of those accusing the witnesses of Father Jehovah have long standing heresies they know its wrong but refuse to adjust . e.g immortal soul, trinity , purgatory , hellfire e.t.c. they are just not adjustable. stagnant waters

solite3:
Jozzy after read this verses slowly and carefully,

It is a real life story Jesus has never used names of real people in parable.


Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

you are trying too hard to defend your myths . this story in itself doesn't prove the myth it rather expose it for the lie it is.


1 - are u aware that the greek word rendered " hell " is hades usually translated GRAVE ?


2 - how could an immaterial spirit possess a tongue and thirst for water ? the use of eyes , tongue , water and fingers in this parable is a BODILY description not a spirit .

Anas09:
Am sure you didnt read that excerpt thats why u still ask for evidence that Charles is the founder of Watchtower which houses JW.

# shakes head # goodnight

DoctorAlien:
Tell me, friend, what goes to hellfire?

you are asking someone who doesn't believe in the hellfire myth what goes to hellfire ? must you comment . she only pose a challenge

DoctorAlien:
Tell me, friend, what goes to hellfire?

you are asking someone who doesn't believe in hellfire what goes to hellfire ? must you comment . she only pose a challenge

Anas09:
Does it not?
Am very sure you didn't read it. Its not written by Watchtower u won't read it. U just came out to call me a liar, did u read it?

how did you know he didn't read , the fact that he asked you to provide evidence from Russell himself claiming the founder title and you couldn't showed you are the biased one here .

Jozzy4:

keep up the Good work educating this people .

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solite3:
you can't deny the reality of hell! Don't say you were not warned. Repent while you have life, because HELL FIRE IS REAL!

is this what God told Adam in the garden of Eden ?
the bold , anything that doesn't have life is a non living entity

[quote author=solite3 post=48343171][/quote]You keep mentioning " whole body " and said those in hell will have bodies . can u just clarify which kind of body ?

solite3:
escape route When you can't even comprehend my post?


Hahaha y are you troubled
Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

This explains y u have been denying all bible verses concerning hell

This is where you guys got it wrong, you don't know the meaning of Loving God with ones whole heart, since Jozzy doesn't agree with you , u automatically assume he is a sinner . lol , that's funny! Ever wondered why Jehovah's Witnesses don't tolerate sinners in their midst despite not teaching this lies you are struggling to defend ? that's a question u should ask yourself and throw away that chicken mentality of not believing in fairytales means they wanna sin.


Meanwhile , is jozzy a sinner in Zion ? Is that verae talking about a mythical spirit being burned ? You just quote without proper thinking this is why you start struggling when they generate questions from what you quote and u can't answer . How I wish u answer the question regarding Matt 10:28 , which body is Jesus reffering to ? But I know you can't be sincere here , cos more problem will arise for your teaching

am happy nobody died !
wishing them quick recovery by Jahs mercy

brocab:
This is hard to believe? This really amazes me JW's don't even believe in Hell, and the first thing you criminals do is jump on someone who does, It's hard to believe Solite3 will talk about you JW's having a body in hell.
This troubles me, you JW's don't even believe the truth about Hell, and to start an argument and without understanding what any of us write, you would rather twist his story, trying to make some kind of mockery out of the Word of God.
The laugh falls back on you dumb dumb's. You should be worried none of you will ever see the kingdom of heaven, let alone see the kingdom of God.
Now this is funny the JW's believe Jesus flew down to earth and became a Child in the flesh, and lived amongst men, once a spirit, Michael became a man made of flesh and blood, and returned to God as His Son? And God said which of the angels did I ever say you are My Son, and which of the angels did God ever say you sit here while I make your enemies your footstool. None....
How can anyone believe this story-now this is funny.

story !


@ solite3 , to confirm you truly understand what you are saying ... since you said those in hell will have a body, tell us , which kind of body they possess ?

@ solite3 , I read your post where you claim those in hell have a body , tell us which kind of body they possess ?

johnw74:
typical false jw non comprehension and confusion

yes you are showing that you are mad

Jessicha don finish this guy.

smilenow:
Thanks bro.
Well, they/he well know the reason why they/he started and suddenly ended the relationship.
Sometimes when one witness things like this,it discourages one especially when he/she is considering starting one with someone in same Cong.

Gud evening , I perfectly understand you, But for me I would never allow such to discourage me because this is a matter of lifetime commitment, and like a JW broadcast music said " CHOOSE WISELY!!! " . hmm , if that wise choice is in my congregation, I will go for it . in fact I love it when both are in the same congregation. their LOVE grows both spiritually and physically.

they can even monitor how strong is the relationship of each person with Jehovah.


I remember an assembly Drama , probably 2012 or so " what is true Love ? " do u remember ? , I can never forget a scene where the aged brother whose Marriage is successful said he and wife met in the same congregation.


So when it comes to choosing a partner, I don't think anything should discourage us from making the wise choice. Nice to meet you, I respect people who speak their mind.

brocab:
It won't matter how many times you call us Christians lairs, we all know the truth, and that's something you will never take away from us, but you, you believe in the JW lies of lies, and not only us Christians but the hole world knows you.
{John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the Word was God. So if this isn't telling you their is One God, then you are not reading your bible correctly, and the Spirit that is in you, isn't the Most high God. Because this information can only come to you from above-and not from below.
{John 1:18} you must explain this scripture-no-one has seen God at anytime-so if no one has seen God-then Jesus answered Philip rightly-by saying I have been with you so long and yet you have not knowing Me? He who has seen Me, has seen the Father, so how can you say show us the Father, do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The Words I speak to you, I do not speak on My own authority, but the Father WHO DWELLS IN "ME" DOES THE WORKS. This proves God is Spirit and the Spirit of God dwells in Jesus.
So how can you believe God and Jesus are two separate people, flesh can not enter into flesh-but the Spirit can.

Before u go offside, nobody dispute that there is One God , but the question is , who is the One God according to the scriptures ! 1 Cor 8:6 " for US, there is one God the Father " not two persons in one , so are u among the "US" ?

johnw74:
read this again
Jesus called Father God
and this time believe the scriptures given.

well, do u agree with the scriptures that the only true God is Jehovah, the Father and God of Jesus Christ ? John 17:3

brocab:
{Acts 28:6} Is talking about Paul, not Jesus, Paul was called a god-So how can you compare this scripture with your twisted scripture you call the Word a god

if the translators are right to insert " a god " @ Act 28:6, then u have no point anymore ! that means there is nothing wrong with the translation " a god " . neither Jesus nor Paul is the Most High God .

smilenow:
U're right..actually there's a bro. and a sis. I know in the same Cong. at the initial stage everything was just Ok buh as time goes on,they especially the bro. loss interest in the relationship. Someone was advising the sis to change her Cong.with the reason I gave u earlier.
I'm just happy u replied that way, It shows that the bro. simply is no longer interested in the relationship,not cos he sees the sis.often
Thanks

its commendable that you now have a balanced view of the situation.

well, am not there , so I don't have the full story but there must have been a KEY reason why both end the relationship . nevertheless Proverb 22:3 comes to mind here . ' the wise one sees the calamity and proceed to conceal himself ' but the inexperienced suffer the outcome . what's my point ? if both discover they can't cope with each other now before Marriage , its better! because once Married , the bible frowns at Divorce . I hate divorce says Jehovah.

smasher1:
JW Library app

same here bro

johnw74:
solite told you that John 1:1 tells of God and the Word being God, your elders changed your Bible to sat the Word was "a god"
and you would obviously believe anything that's not the truth to support the false doctrines that they also taught you,
you are the one who cannot comprehend, false jw have this in common, they love to lie.

You have come to this thread to disrupt and take the spotlight of lie lie dolphinheart who is so entrenched in his lies that
he doesn't even know what he is saying now most of the time, that's what satan does to his followers, he is not your friend.

false jw lie so much and they support each other in their lies.

oga, your problem is " a god " right ? kindly check Act 28:6 , and prove a god in that verse is a wrong translation. then we can discuss , till then you are just making noise .

solite3:
just like the pharisee always looking for signs even when the saw it didn't believe. Don't u have ur bible? Read John I: 1 is it not boldly written that the word is God?

the Word is a god , compare Act 28:6 where Paul is also called a god. though the Greek remains Theo's.

unless u can prove that act 28:6 " a god " is a wrong translation, then u have a point!

Except Satan has deceived you as he deceived eve. Yes Jesus boldly said I and my father are one and the pharisee knew what Jesus was talking about, immediately they took up stones to stone him because he was making himself equal to God. Even the devils know whom he is! But u are so blind!
U are funny sha saying it is impossible but remember with God nothing shall be impossible. Stop limiting the holy one of is real like the is realities did in the wilderness saying CAN GOD PROVIDE FOOD IN THE WILDERNESSES? Remember sin against the holy spirit there is no forgiveness.

the scripture said the Father is the God of Jesus . that's proves ur same God theory is extremely false.

infact if both are the same God , both will be equal . are they ? NO! the Father is the God of Jesus . and Jesus will be subjected to him . confirm evidence 1 cor 15:28 . this proves u false