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Christianity Etc › Re: A Deadly Blow that DESTROYS the Doctrine of Immortal Soul by CAPTIVATOR(op): 11:20am On Feb 01, 2015

CAPTIVATOR:
STOP livin in myths .... , Adam and Abel go to heaven when they die yet Jesus came many years after they have died and said " NO MAN has ever been to Heaven" Joh 3:13 , so ar they in hellfire ? Since the procedure is hell or heaven and since they are not in heaven , mayb they are in hellfire .... Lol, Am tryin to be sarcastic, showin you how ridiculous the teachings of Christendom are.

SHOW me where the word "immortal soul" appeared in the scriptures ??

Christianity Etc › Re: A Deadly Blow that DESTROYS the Doctrine of Immortal Soul by CAPTIVATOR(op): 5:26pm On Jan 31, 2015

Hiswordxray:
Go and read your Bible very well.

STOP livin in myths .... , Adam and Abel go to heaven when they die yet Jesus came many years after they have died and said " NO MAN has ever been to Heaven" Joh 3:13 , so ar they in hellfire ? Since the procedure is hell or heaven and since they are not in heaven , mayb they are in hellfire .... Lol, Am tryin to be sarcastic, showin you how ridiculous the teachings of Christendom are.

SHOW me where the word "immortal soul" appeared in the scriptures ??

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 7:44pm On Jan 28, 2015

Proffdada:
I still oblige u to pray for spirit of discernment. David didn't ascend to heaven to write that verse,phew!!
moreover u don't believe in afterlife to know what part of him is in a tomb n what part is in afterlife

Despite the fact that the scripture debunk this lie u still hold on to it .

LET US REASON!
If u dont exist before you are born,.... It mean you are not immortal, its clear you wont exist when u die.

If you are truly an immortal soul that exist in a body, it means u EXIST BEFORE YOU WERE BORN OR BEFORE your earthly body was prepared ...... Since humans lived as immortals , can u tell me where you are some 500 years ago ??

If u are unable to answer, then by now .... you should realise the fiction of religion. Ur answer pls?

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Deadly Blow that DESTROYS the Doctrine of Immortal Soul by CAPTIVATOR(op): 7:12am On Jan 28, 2015

ROSSIKE:
You are so dumb you don't realize that your strong insistence on the ''destruction'' of the ''doctrine'' of the immortal soul is actually against your own interests as a being.

Gentleman ..... TRUTH REMAINS TRUTH

That scripture reads " dead soul" ! When u are alive, you "BECAME a living soul" Gen 2:7, and when you die, you BECAME a "dead soul" Num 6:6 .

STOP comforting urselves with a lie

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 5:17pm On Jan 27, 2015

Proffdada:
i hope u read ur bible well cuz David bones were only left in the tomb in acts 2;29 his soul is in after life
in verse 34 it was a reference( of being in oneness with God even before afterlife )to his word in Psalm 110:1
Of David. A psalm. The LORD says to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."
stop misquoting the bible and try to open ur heart to the Holy Spirit to give u discernment

Religious Lies ...... The word " bone" didnt appeared in Act 2:29 , it brilliantly refers to DAVID , He died and his tomb is with us to this day ! The "he" and "his" refers to whom ??.

Ur lies exposed again in verse 34, which complement vrs 29 as true ( David is still in the tomb, grave) ... " For David DID NOT ascend to the heavens" !!! If David didnt ascend to heaven, afterlife is false , after- afterlife is pure fabrication , so therefore the reference to psalm 110:1 is not to David ( David didnt go to heaven) !

Christianity Etc › Re: A Deadly Blow that DESTROYS the Doctrine of Immortal Soul by CAPTIVATOR(op): 2:26pm On Jan 27, 2015

Hiswordxray:
The Hebrew word for soul literally mean "living being". This word is used for both animals and human being. But the word is used in the Bible in two way:
1) Outward living being (the body or the flesh)
2) Inward living being (which is the spiritual embodiment of the heart and the mind). This is not the spirit but it is something spiritual that only humans have and it controls our emotions and the way we think. It is were all our decisions are made that is why God will judge the soul and put it in Hell if it's evil.

Yes the spirit is the breath of God but there is also another spirit called the spirit of man (Pro 20:27).
So the soul as a spiritual aspect which is immortal and it also have a fleshly aspect which is mortal.

The soul is partly spirit and partly flesh.

Man " BECAME" a soul , ( Gen2:7) HE WAS NOT GIVEN.
Lets test ur analogy above:

>> Abel is a good man, am I right ? Along the line,Cain killed Abel .... So, Did Abel go to heaven ??

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 1:57pm On Jan 27, 2015

Proffdada:
all those who died before Jesus Christ came to earth were in grave till He took the keys of death from Hades

Gooood, Grave ! That shows afterlife is a myth , everyone descend to the Grave at death.

No.2 U Claim they av now ascend to heaven after Jesus took the keys from hade's. ehn

Lol , okay ..... So, Why is king David still in the Grave many years AFTER Christ has died and ressurect ?? Act 2:29,34; Act 13:26

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 9:15am On Jan 27, 2015

Proffdada:
the same bible you quote from ensures there's afterlife. u r so quick to conclude d verses u quoted n u 4got dat it analogous relativity of d human life span dat was been mentioned, Heaven and hell are real. you better not lose ur soul to d Tempter who wants ur soul by convincing u there's no God

Gorrila in paradise .. Mr pls answer this about the afterlife myth : Abel is a good man, am i right ? When cain killed him ...... Did he go to heaven ??

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 8:00pm On Jan 26, 2015*

samsard:
You quote such scripture verses but you forget there are tons of verses about the resurrection and after-life. Please try that with amateurs. As a matter of fact, Christianity revolves around the hope of resurrection.

THEN ANSWER THIS:

1) Did God promise Adam an afterlife ??

2) if there is an afterlife , WHY WOULD JESUS WAIT TILL THE THIRD DAY BEFORE HE RISE FROM THE DEAD ??

3) IF death ( to be in a NON- living state) BUT accordin to religion is a transfer to another realm, it mean that Jesus was transferred to another realm ... Thus he didnt die ?

4) What is ressurection ??

5) Has the ressurection occur ??

6) of what purpose is the ressurection of the dead, since many religion preach the Satanic notion of "the real you Never die" Gen 3:4 ??

7) Ressurection Is For WHOM ..... Unconscious dead ones OR unclad afterlife ghosts ??

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 12:53pm On Jan 26, 2015

Proffdada:
a soul is the eternal, immaterial essence of humans. it's the God part of us humans. A gorilla however has no soul and it's spirit dies with it till judgment day WHERE IT WILL BE FOUND IN PARADISE

My man , you wont kill us with laughter .... Gorrila in paradise , ehn .. Wetin person wont hear for nairaland

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 12:48pm On Jan 26, 2015

Longstride:
the bible says the soul dies.... Mr. Analogy.

Dont mind him ...... He needs to explain why King David is still in the grave ? Act 2:29,34.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Comedy Videos by CAPTIVATOR: 12:41pm On Jan 26, 2015

Proffdada:
does it take a rocket scientist?

RELIGIOUS MAN ...... Where are you some 300 years ago , pls answer ? The truth is that you DONT exist .... Death returns humans to that Non_existent ( James 4:14, " humans are like mist that appears for a little while and then DISSAPEARS" ) VANISH LIKE SMOKE .

OR , are u ready to say that there is also an after-afterlife ?? Am teling you all this shit is just fabrications .. James 4:14 and ecc 9:5,10 says it all

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Wrote The New Testament ? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:37am On Jan 26, 2015

FRAUD ALERT: *** a number of ancient and authoritative manuscripts omits John 7:53 - 8:11 ............ Its a pure fabrication

1john 5:7 has also been manipulated by a scribe

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 2:16pm On Jan 25, 2015

Eberex:
God didn't create Jesus. Mind the way you construct your english. Jesus has always existed with God the father from the beginning.

READ Rev 3:14, Lidell and Scott's Greek- English Lexicon lists " beginning" as the first meaning of ar-khe.

READ Proverb 8:22 , many bible commentators agree that the Son is reffered to as wisdom personified.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 10:32pm On Jan 24, 2015

Emusan:
Please and please always with your brain whenever you want to reply my post, Ok!

I just smiled ..... Honestly speaking, You dont need all this emotional outburst
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Again, what I demanded of you is Explain how Jesus was BORN INTO EXISTENCE

Jesus was born into existence as the direct Creation of the FATHER , Making Him the ' FIRST-BORN OF All CREATION" by the Invisible God, The FATHER Col 1:15, Proverb 8:22,30 >Matthew 11:19) !
This is why Jesus is reffered to as the " Son of God" , the same way Created angels are also called " son of God" Job 38:4-7 And the first human creature is also refered to as the " Son Of God" Luk 3:38

NOTE: [b]THE title " Son Of God" is never applied to the Father, The FATHER Was Never Created! ( Psalm 90:2)

DO YOU NOW BELIEVE THAT JESUS HAVE A SUPERIOR GOD ??

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Christianity Etc › Re: Death Is Not The Worst by CAPTIVATOR: 6:32pm On Jan 24, 2015

PastorOluT:
Smile, I get where u driving at, but understand that human is quite different from man and cant be compared. But to oblige u, death is the ceasation of life in the body which brings about the decay of the body.

Now when we say life, what kind of life are we talking about? Man is made up spirit, soul and body, the spirit of man in the body gives life to the body. So even though the body dies cos the spirit departs from it, the spirit still lives on. Do u believe the bible?

YES, I believe the bible ! But answer this:

1) what is the spirit in man ?

2) is it the same with the breath of life ??

3) do animals have spirit in them ??

4) do animals possess the breath of life too ??

5) if the spirit in man that returns to God at death is an entity on its own ( that scripture says all spirit returns to God), didnt that means everyone either good, bad, righteous , unrighteous will go to heaven since God dwells in heaven ??

6) Why would the bible say "the dead do not praise God" ( psalm 115:17) IF THEY ARE ALIVE WITH GOD AS SPIRIT IN HEAVEN ??

7) was Jesus in heaven with God, the day his spirit left him ( Luk 23:46) ??

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Christianity Etc › Re: Death Is Not The Worst by CAPTIVATOR: 3:10pm On Jan 24, 2015

Hiswordxray:
So you and your dog are the same being?

Case closed ## ..... Its clear your definition of death is defined according to the myth of religion. AND NOT A TRUE DEFINITION that fits all sentences where the word "death" appears

Keep on swimmin in the lies, myths and propaganda of religion

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Christianity Etc › Re: Death Is Not The Worst by CAPTIVATOR: 11:15am On Jan 24, 2015

PastorOluT:
Death is the transition of life from the flesh which as a result render the flesh useless and ineffective till decay sets in.

WE NEED A WORKING DEFINITION

ACCORDING to your definition, "death" is a transition to another life ! Okay, remember all LIVING THINGS EXPERIENCE " DEATH" ..... So according to ur definition if my Dog experience "death" , it is transferred to another life ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 10:56am On Jan 24, 2015

ayoku777:
Are you saying Jesus preached a lie or said less than the truth, so that the Jews could accept His message? If the Father is NOT His God will He say the Father is so that the Jews will not stone Him?

And did you see the part where He still called the Father His God after He rose from the dead and in the book of revelation? Long after His glorification and enthronement in heaven? He still called the Father My God. Or He's still saying that for the sake of the Jews?

Or the part in 1Cor where the son will be subject to the Father for eternity? I wish I was making this stuff up, but I'm not.

No one is saying Jesus isn't God, I'm only saying the Father is also His God. I know how you feel. Saying Jesus has a God will feel weird for a while, but it is the truth. Jesus doesn't lie, or say what is not the truth for any reason.

Or do you disagree that the Father is the God of Jesus?

THANK YOU ...... The last 2 paragraphs is very sound.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 10:04am On Jan 24, 2015*

Emusan:
How can God be created?

Remember, Jesus Is NOT the Almighty God ( John 20:17)

Actually, I've addressed this point but for the purpose of the bolded part I'll ask you this question.

Explain how Jesus was BORN INTO EXISTENCE without YOU CHANGING the word FIRSTBORN into FIRSTCREATED?
Beside FIRSTBORN and FIRSTCREATED do they mean the same thin?

Hypocrisy in action ............
FIRST [BORN/b] OF ALL CREATION ! NOTE: FIRST /BORN/ OF CREATION Col 1:15.

I can see you lack basic English the verse says [b]"...so that he might become the one who is first in all things;" NWT If Jesus is first IN all things is there anything above Him again and what is the mean of OVER? Remember I didn't include the Father in all things before you misquote me.

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YES ! First BORN OF CREATION ( born of creation, a part of creation) Col 1:15

First BORN from the dead ( part of the dead before his ressurection)

Many people died before Jesus and resurrect before Him, so why will Apostle Paul said Jesus is the FIRSTBORN among the dead if the word FIRSTBORN here doesn't mean pre-eminence/supremacy?

He Was part of the dead NOT exclusive of the word "dead" ! But firstborn because he was the first to be raised to Immortality , UNLIKE others who died again, Jesus wont die anymore! But remember he was not exclusive from the dead , so dont play games removing him from " CREATION" Col 1:15

Are you telling me that Jesus is not SUPREME over the dead?
I guess you don't even know the meaning of pre-eminence, do you?

! #smiles# Am not saying he is not supreme
, but the fact remains that he was before ressurection part of the "dead" ! Col 1:18

FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATION

Christianity Etc › Re: A Deadly Blow that DESTROYS the Doctrine of Immortal Soul by CAPTIVATOR(op): 5:15pm On Jan 23, 2015

vooks:
Working too hard to push your thread to front page

Not at all ...... How are u doing ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 1:37pm On Jan 23, 2015

Bidam:
Guess you couldn't explain why the child is called eternal father. Thanks anyway.

The explanation is right there UNLESS am speakin with a preacher of Modalism error that says Jesus is the Father ! .... Even trinitarians know that the Father is a person diferent from the Son ,

" WITNESS of Two persons ..... I am one who bears witness about myself (1st witness), and the Father WHO SENT ME bears witness about me (2nd witness) " Joh 8: 17,18 TWO DISTINCT PERSONS!

Eternal father is a title given to the son because " he became RESPONSIBLE for eternal salvation to all those obeying him" Heb 5:9

ANSWER THIS: DO U BELIEVE JESUS HAVE A SUPERIOR GOD ??

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 1:27pm On Jan 23, 2015

Eberex:
Look here! don't try to twist words because we understand simple english. All i see is you countering passages in the Bible with your own beliefs, and i'm not going to fall for it. Listen to yourself ''God told isaiah to call the messiah ''eternel father'' what's this? or what are trying to say?

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

MODALISM Preacher ..... Are u saying Jesus is his own Father ? Even trinitarians believe that the Father is a person distinct from the Son.

Eternal father is a title given to the child when he was born because he " became responsible for eternal salvation to all those obeying him" Heb 5:9

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 10:55am On Jan 23, 2015

Bidam:
Pls explain why the child is called eternal father. almighty means very powerful or omnipotent which to me is the same with mighty aka very powerful. Scripture records Jesus is omnipotent.(Revelation 1:8-"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.")

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Bidam .... " GOD (The Almighty) is the head of Christ ( Mighty)" 1 Cor 11:3

- JEHOVAH GOD ALMIGHTY prophesy thru his prophet Isaiah to call the messiah " eternal father" why ? Jesus is person vested with the responsibility to grant mankind eternal life , " he became responsible for eternal salvation to all those obeyin him" Heb 5:9 and right now, " he is able to save completely all those who are approaching God Through him, because he is always alive TO PLEAD for them" before God ( Heb 7:25) .

~ Rev 1:8 Refers to the Almighty , Jehovah .... "the God of Christ" Ephesian 1:17

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 10:38am On Jan 23, 2015

Eberex:
lolz............All what you just said i'm sorry doesnt make sense. ''he was in shock mood indeed!!!'' And please! we use gods for lesser beings like humans and the devil. Do not attribute it to God.

Thomas was a jew, and Jewish belief is that of a one God. Jesus would have replied him telling him ''nooooo dont call me God''....why didnt he?

Jesus dont need to reply him at all ! The evidence speaks

" these are written ( includin thomas statement) that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON OF God" John 20:31 ! SON OF God NOT GOD HIMSELF .

Christianity Etc › Re: A Deadly Blow that DESTROYS the Doctrine of Immortal Soul by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:29am On Jan 23, 2015

CAPTIVATOR:
Numbers 6:6

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 10:17am On Jan 23, 2015

Bidam:
Why don't you explain the scripture he quoted instead of throwing fits.Why on the subject could you please tell us who Isaiah was referring to here?

For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name will be
c a l l e d W o n d e r f u l C o u n s e l o r, [size=16pt]Mighty God, Eternal Father,[/size] Prince of Peace.There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace ( Isaiah 9:6-7)

Jesus replied to philip in that manner because he is a " REPRESENTATIVE FROM the Father" John 7:29

Bidam ...... The child will be born and will be called, Mighty God! Isa 9:6 NOT ALMIGHTY GOD , Christ though powerful still have a God he answers to ( 1 cor 15:24-28)

Christianity Etc › Re: Death Is Not The Worst by CAPTIVATOR: 10:10am On Jan 23, 2015

PastorOluT:
We are created for far more and death couldnt have been the end, so where do u spend the rest of ur life after death?

Define Death ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 10:00am On Jan 23, 2015

Eberex:
If you are so concerned about the capital letter ''G'' being attributed to GOD, and since you are bringing out quotes from the Bible, which tells me you really believe in its content, please explain this verse. John 20:28 Thomas said to him, ''my Lord and my God''

Very Good! If HUMANS are called " GODS" , and SATAN is called " GOD" ..... OF Course, Jesus occupies a far higher position than any of this , has he is the " ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" of the Father , Then thomas have a point for refferin to Jesus as " My God" ( remember also that thomas was in a shocked mood, exclamation mark(!) )!! BUT THIS STATEMENT NEVER MEANS JESUS IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD !

- Thomas had heard Jesus pray to HIS FATHER and reffer to him as " THE ONLY TRUE GOD" Joh 17:3!

- After Jesus Ressurection, Thomas had heard the message that Jesus passed across to his disciples " I am ascending ... To MY GOD AND YOUR GOD" Joh 20:17

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 9:34am On Jan 23, 2015

Eberex:
Yes i am aware. Humans are gods too, hope you are aware of that too

YES ! But according to the ancient greek scripture, humans are " GODS" ! ( are u aware that the original greek used in writing the scripture has no uppercase or lowercase letters like english language).

But who did Jesus Christ refer to as the " ONLY TRUE GOD" john 17:3 ?? THE FATHER

What about the apostles

" for even though there are so called GODS ( using the rule of greek), whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many " GODS" ..... There is actually to us ONE GOD, THE FATHER from whom all things are and we for him" ! 1 cor 8:5,6 this scripture doesnt need explanation but i will explain .

POINT 1: We have one God

POINT 2: This One God is not composed of trinity BUT ONLY THE FATHER ! 1 COR 8:5,6

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 9:22am On Jan 23, 2015*

Emusan:
I didn't say the Father was included in ALL THINGS...what I mean by ALL THINGS is that EVERYTHING THAT CAME INTO EXISTENCE AT CREATION it is evident that The Father was never created, so the reason why I quoted John 1:3 is to show people that Jesus was never part of creation instead the Bible placed Him outside the creation.

LISTEN

Its good you recognize the fact that the Father was never created !! What about Jesus his son ??

Col 1:15 Jesus is " the FIRST - BORN of ALL CREATION" !!! This clearly reveal that OF ALL CREATION THAT CAME INTO EXISTENCE, JESUS IS THE FIRST TO BE BORN INTO EXISTENCE . ! .. The trinity lie says " pre eminence over" ! This never appeared in that scripture ! Another lie is " firstborn over all creation" NO! " FIRST-BORN OF CREATION".

Col 1:18 Jesus is the FIRSTBORN from the dead" !! He was part of d dead, but first to be raised , its a big LIE to say " firstborn over the dead" or "pre eminen

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by CAPTIVATOR: 9:08am On Jan 23, 2015

Eberex:
2 Corinthian 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Do you know that Satan is also called " GOD" in the scripture above ??

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