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Politics › Re: We Want “Electronic Transmission” -- Not Just Uploading Photographs Of Results by casualobserver: 11:02am On Feb 09
BluntCrazeMan:
There is Electronic Voting, and there is Electronic Transmission...
The two of them are two different things, and we know exactly the one which we are demanding for at this very moment..


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They said that NIGERIA is not ready for Electronic Voting,, that the OLD MEN AND WOMEN IN THE HINTERLANDS AND VILLAGES cannot vote properly with the electronic voting machines..

No Wahalla..
We agreed.

We are no more demanding for Electronic Voting.
Let there be MANUAL VOTING, AND MANUAL COUNTING -- For the sake of the OLD MEN AND WOMEN AND ILLITERATES TOO..

But after the manual voting, let the results be transmitted electronically first.
And then, the usual MANUAL COLLATION can follow.

Just the way bankers count your PHYSICAL CASH, and post it electronically, and then transfer it electronically to the desired bank account you wish to pay it into...,,; that's just the same exact way they should count the physical votes, and then transmit it electronically too..

The “Realtime” here refers to the transmission itself,, not the voting.
After the voting had ended, and counting the physical votes had also ended -- and the results got transmitted,, the transmitted results should be seen immediately on the IREV-Portal..

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You're trying to say that the bankers who were counting the physical cash at the bank, the figures should be reflecting in the desired bank account immediately they lodged the cash inside the counting machine??

The answer is “NO”.

It only reflects after it had been posted and transferred.
And it then reflects immediately and in “REALTIME” inside the desired bank-account.
Oga this is a turd of an idea. Like I said previously the way of the Nigerian is to knee jerk a solution only to encounter the new problems he has created.


Of what use is transmitting results electronically creating a frenzy only to manually tally the actual original votes manually and discover a different result?

Do you have 170,000 competent Inec officials at the 177,000 polling units?
. Do you know how many results are cancelled at the ward and state levels? Yet people like you say they should already announce results manned by ad-hoc staff only to be cancelled on closer examination of the ballots.

We all see the results at the ward and state levels where they ask “any cancellations?” And then they say yes due to over voting etc, these are results that would have been announced and a winner declared under your poorly thought through plan.

Manual counting is the best, every body has a signed copy of the result sheet and BVS has a record of the accredited voters. If you need to investigate you can forensically examine every single thumb printed ballot which has been done before. IREV is a viewing portal.



We need to do more thinking in this country.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 30 Countries By Electricity Production Capacity by casualobserver: 10:48am On Feb 09
uniquetechng:
Nigeria has far better painters, bricklayers, tilers than those neighboring countries. When I was building my second house they sweet-talked me into using the best hands from Togo which I did, 8 years after I am still spending money correcting many of their mistakes and bad jobs meanwhile my first house built by Nigerians are still intact 13 years after.

We have both skilled and unskilled labours, except you have been looking in the wrong places.
I have had contract with few companies owned by Lebanese and Chinese and all the works are done by Nigerians why the Chinese supervise.
I really hate having arguments with people who use exceptions as proof of the norm. In a family of upright people, there will always be a crook. In a group of crooks there will always be one honest person. If you are looking for a talented reliable Nigerian craftsman or tradesman mechanic, plumber, plasterer you will find but you may have to go through 10-20 to find one.

Part of the problem also is the lack of standards in you the person employing them, therefore not knowing the difference having yourself no standards or eye for quality.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 30 Countries By Electricity Production Capacity by casualobserver: 10:43am On Feb 09
Reference:
There is no demand for quality as a cultural standard across board. In this country money comes first on both sides of the argument.
Whatever the case, you can’t compete in the world stage with low skilled workers or poor quality output. Whether that is because of the purchasers of services or providers of services.

Congratulations, you have power, you now manufacture but your goods will be uncompetitive in the world market and will not compete with imports without tarrifs.

So power is not everything.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 30 Countries By Electricity Production Capacity by casualobserver: 10:36am On Feb 09
Nteogwuija:
But if a politician chooses to prioritize human capital development over building of center tables called flyovers, most people in Nigeria will say such person did nothing.

Wike for all his 8 years in Rivers State did not invest in human capital development, but was referred to as Mr Project because he was building center tables in Port Harcourt and collecting kickbacks.

The Nigerian populace are the primary enablers of bad leadership.
I agree with this. The problem though is down to the people. Voters can’t see human capital development and won’t vote for you but they can see roads and useless bridges.

It is a viscous circle. Ignorant unenligtened people vote based on ignorance but if you provide the tools to lift them from their ignorance, they won’t vote for you. It’s the paradox of the poor man who constitutes 80% of the population and 95% of the voting public.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 30 Countries By Electricity Production Capacity by casualobserver: 10:33am On Feb 09
udemzyudex:
They come from neighbouring countries because some people prefer cheap labour, it doesn't mean we don't have skill labour here.
It’s not because of cheap labour, it’s because of quality of work. We don’t have skilled workers in Nigeria. A few does not negate the fact. The Foreign worker charges the same in my experience, he just delivers better workmanship and is more reliable.

A Nigerian worker will lay tiles or plaster a wall and there will be grout all over the place or the wall will be rough.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 30 Countries By Electricity Production Capacity by casualobserver: 9:37am On Feb 09
erico2k2:
Bro you can speak for yourself, do you have any idea how skilled Nigerians are fru self thought? you really think so little of yourself. I can use myself as an Example, I also have loads of colleagues too who re Nigerians working remotely from every part of the globe, we as Nigerians are very resourceful with minimum help fro the government of the day. Our problem is this bloody Electricity once this is fix, we have fixed 70% of our problems, corruption will reduce drastically cos everything will now be electronic and has a trail.
You are a minority. And please don’t confuse working remotely with being skilled. There are lots of jobs Nigerians are now doing abroad or remotely simply because those roles have become too low level for the locals in those country for the pay. If Nigerians were truly that skilled and resources, foreigners wouldn’t be here taking low level jobs. The best bricklayers, carpenters, painters etc in Nigeria are not Nigerians.


That’s isn’t to say there aren’t skilled Nigerians, the are few and far between. I know.
Politics › Re: We Want “Electronic Transmission” -- Not Just Uploading Photographs Of Results by casualobserver: 9:30am On Feb 09
BluntCrazeMan:
Electronic Transmission of results cannot just be regarded as the: taking pictures of the ballot tallying at the Polling-Units, and uploading them to the IREV-Portal.
That is even the barest minimum of what we are requesting for.

What we are requesting for is not just the upload of the photos of the results -- but the actual Electronic Transmission of the Results, which involves the Electronic Transmission and the Electronic Collation of the Results at the same time.

Let me explain further....

The presiding officers at the polling units must input the results for each party inside the BVAS-Machine, and then transmit the results online to an online collation-server; so that there would also be an electronic collation of the transmitted votes online.

Then, the photos of the “signed and stamped results” (at all levels of results production) would then be uploaded to the IREV-Portal for Audit and Cross-Checking purposes.

We don't want an manual collation system where corrupt professors would be sitting at a collation-centre, and be tabulating millions of votes with analog calculators..
This is no more 2011.
This is 2026 for goodness’ sake.!!

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Nevertheless,, if the members of the National Assembly insists on giving us the “MANUAL Collation” coupled with only the online uploading of the photographs of the results of the elections,,
Then, here are the 3 things which they MUST make the ELECTORAL ACT to ALLOW to be electronically transmitted to the IREV-Portal:

1. The Photographs of the Polling-Units Results

2. The “NUMBER OF ACCREDITED VOTERS” which was automatically captured inside the BVAS-Machines

3. THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL THE COLLATED RESULTS FROM ALL THE COLLATION-CENTERS ACROSS ALL THE LEVELS OF COLLATION.
(This No.3 above is very very important -- they shouldn't be uploading only the Polling-Unit Results alone to the IREV-Portal.)
Like I said in previous posts today, what you want is electronic voting. But because Nigerians have a fundamental problem with English they don’t even know how to articulate what they want. Instead they call it electronic transmission.

You can’t have real time electronic transmission if you don’t have electronic voting.

And sorry to burst your bubble,
1: Nigeria is not equipped for electronic voting, INEC will have to redesign the entire voting infrastructure. Certain
Y not in time for 2027 and we do t have the money.
2: more importantly, electronic voting is the worst possible option for someone who wants to prevent rigging or hacking. You will argue with me no doubt but go and ask countries like the USA who practice e-voting. The hacking cases from the Florida votes are still unresolved, glossed over because it was only 1 state. Imagine spending 10years to prove electronic rigging and hacking? And that’s America with vastly more resources than Nigeria. And that’s just one state in America. Imagine if the whole of the USA used e-voting? Now imagine if someone hacked Nigerian election server and you have no manual votes to fall back on or recount?

Ask INEC a how many hacking attempts were made on their servers in the 2019 and 2023 elections. In 2023, there were 12.7million server hack attempts on the day of the election. Now imagine if you didn’t have any paper evidence of how people actually voted?

As far as I am concerned anyone advocating e-voting is planning to hack and rig the elections.

Sometimes we need to see beyond our noses when we ask for changes.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Top 30 Countries By Electricity Production Capacity by casualobserver: 9:09am On Feb 09
DrMB:
The World Bank says you need 2,000 kWh per person to be a "Middle Income" country. Nigeria provides just 186 kWh.
When we compare our ~41k GWh of annual power to China’s 2.95 Billion kW capacity, we aren't just looking at numbers, we’re looking at why our factories are closing.
Last year, Nigerian manufacturers spent ₦1.11 Trillion just to keep their own lights on. That’s money that should have gone into new jobs, better tech, and cheaper products.
We have the gas. We have the people. We have the "Capacity" on paper. So why is the grid still collapsing?
Nigeria has bigger problems preventing the creation of jobs….a majority poorly educated/uneducated and unskilled population. Put in the power today and you will find you don’t have the Local skilled resources to fill the vacancies.

Manual labour, yes, skilled jobs no! Even our carpenters, bricklayers, painters etc come from neighboring countries.
Politics › Re: Why Senate Is Scared Of E-transmission Of Election Results – Samson Itodo by casualobserver: 9:00am On Feb 09
What I don’t like about CSOs like this is that to continue to justify the foreign grants they depend on for their livelihoods they would inflame an ignorant populace.

This man is more intelligent and knowledgeable than the nonsense he is spewing. He is merely trying to keep himself and his organisation relevant and in the headlines which equates to more foreign grants from overseas bodies.

He knows IREV is not a collation portal, he knows we don’t do electronic voting, he knows we can’t fully guarantee real-time transmission, he knows the minute you insert real time into the law, then any failure no matter how genuine can potentially jeopardize an election because INECwould be deemed to not have followed the letter of the law.

He knows IREV is not a collation portal, he knows most Nigerians think it is. He knows votes are not counted based on what is on IREV. Instead of him to educate the public, he is inflaming the situation for his own relevance and foreign grants.
Politics › Re: How 3 Southern Senators Scuttled Real-time E-transmission Of Election Results by casualobserver: 8:45am On Feb 09
Queseda:
This is a sensible submission.
Whatever is on IREV is a COPY of the original. A copy can never have more authority than the original that produced the copy. That is why IREV was never used and can never be used by INEC to collate results. It was conceived as a tool for the public to have an idea of how the results are going in case the public want to do the work themselves and do their own UNOFFICIAL collation, not a tool for INEC to collate.

That is why IREV is irrelevant. People have turned this IREV to the means of collation it never was and never can be, whether real time or otherwise.

Real time or mandatory transmission of results doesn’t transfer any authority for collation to IREV. Even if it is done in real time, the individual results for 170,000 PU will just sit on IREV there at you staring at you. No totals just copies from 170,000 individual PUs.


I remember the last election, after checking about 10 PUs, I got tired and stopped. Except you want to check a few individual PUs or you have the resources like Channels or CNN, IREV is really useless to the average voter other than the confirm the results of a few polling units. No individual has time to go through more than a few PUs on IREV .
Politics › Re: How 3 Southern Senators Scuttled Real-time E-transmission Of Election Results by casualobserver: 8:28am On Feb 09
What this whole saga bhighlights once again is that we have a fundamental problem of ignorance, poor understanding of the English language and low intelligence amongst our populace.

Irev is a viewing portal. What is on IREV are COPIES of the EC8 forms. It is not the source of the votes for collation. Whether real time or mandatory, it makes no difference to the collation or outcome of elections. INEC DOES NOT COUNT VOTES ON IREV, IT COUNTS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PHYSICAL EC8 Forms.

Whether you transit to irev in real time o whether they are transmitted 24hrs later o. It is the physical EC8 forms that are used to collate results at the ward, state and national levels.

Transmission of results real-time or otherwise is not electronic voting. Votes that were done manually and collated manually and entered on a piece of paper don’t automatically get collated on the irev server simply because you transmitted or transferred them electronically in real time.


Again, IREV is merely a veiwing portal where you can see the votes of individual polling units only! Even if INEC were able to transmit in real time the votes of all PUs in a state to IREV, you will still have to take your calculator and compute the total votes yourself manually.

Finally the senate did not remove electronic transfer or transmission of results, they simply declined to add the term “real time” due to the infrastructural challenges and the legal implications.
Politics › Re: We Don't Need To Have A Governor To Mobilize For Tinubu - Wike by casualobserver: 4:31am On Feb 08
Tenses:
This one will soon run mad for market square.

Nah you be the first to be betrayed. As you open radio station so if Fubara open his own nobody go send your own because he's in control.

I can't wait for the apc primary.
I just watched a short clip from an interview with a political analyst mohjeed something. I didn’t watch the whole interview but the sound bite sums it up

Fubara was given the leadership of the APC in Rivers on a plate, according to him, Fubara was given the ball with an empty net, where Wike the goalkeeper was busy fighting in midfield. instead of him to kick the ball straight into an empty net, he kicked the ball back to midfield.

According to Mohjeed. The president waited and waited for weeks while the APC party hierarchy threw their weight behind him, instead of Fubara to do the needful, rally the heavyweights and show his political support he was engaging in petty fights. After waiting weeks, Tinubu realized Fubara is not a politician and threw his weight behind Wike.

Watch the 1st minute of this video. It sums up the rivers situation and the political incompetence or mumuness of Fubara.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOfl9BLa6Ag?si=ouZEAX4mmNdUCg9f
Business › Re: Is Bitcoin Dead And Gone? by casualobserver: 7:29pm On Feb 06
Bitcoin was always a scam. It has no Intrinsic value except as a purely speculative asset.
Politics › Re: Latest View Of The New Sagamu-ljebu Ode Expressway Under Construction By PBAT by casualobserver: 7:15pm On Feb 06
SEGLIZ:
don't get me confused the more!? sure that isn't the old Sagamu interchange? just curious, cracking to know that spot, where exactly is that?

thanks on this I almost got myself headache trying to figure out, isn't this the Sagamu Ijebu-Ode road I know we'll.

in as much as you are right they will disagree with you. they don't see these things as their right but privilege.

our politicians had so much brainwash our people to see these things as dividend of democracy rather than right. only in Nigeria does democracy come with dividend.
See below. The left circle is the shagamu interchange and where construction started from proceeding towards Ore eventually, while the right circle is what he erroneously posted as the Shagamu interchange. That is the Epe/Ijebu express interchange where you turn off to go to Epe or where you land if coming from The new Epe road and construction of the concrete road has not advanced to that spot.

Politics › Re: Latest View Of The New Sagamu-ljebu Ode Expressway Under Construction By PBAT by casualobserver:
ppogba:
It is good to know we have someone who knows more than all the engineers at the Ministry combined.
Some people know how roads should be constructed because they were alive when roads were designed properly in this country and they have also travelled and driven on highways and motorways abroad.

You will never find a motorway abroad designed with the kind of hard shoulder that exists on the Lagos-calabar highway. Some people don’t know what a hard shoulder is.

It is a particularly poor design in an environment where drivers undertake. Again look up the meaning of undertake.

It’s a design flaw just as the interchange on the Ijebu-Epe/shagamu Benin in the second picture is also flawed. Let’s see if you can spot the flaw in the second picture.



Finally if you join the ministry because it’s the only job available and the best in your graduating set don’t apply for ministry jobs, eventually you despite being a mediocre student will rise to the position of perm sec or director. It doesn’t mean you weren’t a dollhard to begin with. It’s not the 1960s-1970 when only the best were recruited to the ministries. Let’s not forget you only need an average grade of 40% to be awarded a degree.

Part of the reason why things don’t work in Nigeria is we copy foreign designs without adjusting them to the realities of our environment. If you cannot enforce traffic laws and lane keeping then adjust your designs for your environment by making sure the hardshoulder is not on the same level as the main carriage way and people don’t mistake the hardshoulder for part of the expressway. Else the typical Nigerian will try to undertake on the right lane (hard shoulder) and run into a stationary broken down vehicle. This is why those with sense who designed Nigerian roads in the past designed hard shoulders that were at a level below the main carriage way. If your car breaks down on the Lagos Ibadan express way for example, you move to the hardshoulder and it is clear to anyone that you are off the expressway. On the new Lagos-calabar road if you break down you are there stuck on the right lane and most Nigerians don’t know what a hard shoulder is talk less not knowing that that lane secluded by the continuous yellow line is not part of the expressway. It is not meant for moving vehicles.


Ask 100 drivers what the yellow line is for and only 10 will know, why won’t you have accidents? Even you I am sure you don’t know! FYI it is for broken down vehicles and emergencies. It is not meant for flowing traffic. A typical poorly trained Nigerian driver will try to overtake on the right but because his steering is on the left, he can’t fully see what is to the right of the car he is trying to overtake and numerous collisions with stationary vehicles on the hardshoulder are inevitable. That’s where the design flaw lies. A poorly educated motoring public are going to undertake and collide with broken down stationary vehicles, they did not see. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist or Einstein! The practice is to lower the level of the hard shoulder so drivers know they are no longer on the main carriage way.


Have a good day.

Politics › Re: Latest View Of The New Sagamu-ljebu Ode Expressway Under Construction By PBAT by casualobserver: 5:09pm On Feb 06
ArcSEMPECJ:
Thought am the only one checking on it , the two floor curved roads don't have destinations but to cause chaos and one way traffic, one should have been diverted to the road at the right side than positioning it to the express road ....

As a matter of facts, road construction is not to be celebrated, because other past Presidents did same we have enough to deal on the economy of Nigeria , which we are yet to see...
When we have something to celebrate in this our Government, I will beckon on all to join us....for now, we are yet to be anywhere....
Truth be told, while it is exciting to see the new roads being constructed, I keep scratching my head at the thought process behind the design of the coastal road. Makes no sense to me. I anticipate a lot of accidents on Lagos-Cal due to poor hard shoulder design.
Politics › Re: Latest View Of The New Sagamu-ljebu Ode Expressway Under Construction By PBAT by casualobserver:
abc115:
Latest view of the new Sagamu-ljebu Ode expressway under construction in Ogun State by President Tinubu...


Your second picture is inaccurate. The current construction going on covers the Shagamu interchange to iperu junction. I don’t think the award for the stretch from there to Benin has been awarded yet and if it has, construction hasn’t started or reached the area in your second picture. The Benin- shagamu section of your second picture is still terrible.


The second picture you posted is the interchange that connects the new Epe Ijebu road to shagamu Benin express and it was constructed by the Ogun state govt like 4 yrs ago. There is no federal road reconstruction going on at that end YET.

I have been on the stretch from shagamu interchange on the expressway all the way to the interchange that connects to the Ijebu-Epe expressway in the last week so this is 1st hand reporting.

That said, work is clearly ongoing and the difference between the reconstructed parts and the old sections is night and day! I also here they will be installing solar lights just like the calabar coastal rd.
Politics › Re: Coastal Logistics May Push PMS Near N1,000/litre, Dangote Refinery Warns by casualobserver: 11:57pm On Feb 05
chatinent:
Since Tinubu entered, it's been all shades of hell. Buhari started the hell; Tinubu decorated it. No jobs for people who want to work.
Better you vote in Obi so he can return fuel and forex subsidies so there will be no money for roads. Obi has already said he will cancel the coaostalhighway.
Who needs coastal highway at N1000 petrol and N1400 to $1.

We were better off with bad roads, at least fuel was cheap.
Politics › Re: INEC 'recognises' Wike-led PDP Faction by casualobserver: 4:44pm On Feb 05
Holdup247:
my brother, if only Obedients will get sense... WIKE is a career politician and has surpassed all there evil wishes...
The best summary of the Wike Fubara situation.

Politics › Re: INEC 'recognises' Wike-led PDP Faction by casualobserver: 4:32pm On Feb 05
Holdup247:
my brother, if only Obedients will get sense... WIKE is a career politician and has surpassed all there evil wishes...
I have never seen such a bunch of emotional people. They never take time to analyze and study a situation before they comment. They just propagate what they wish irrespective of the reality on ground.

If an Obidient wants a son and gives birth to a daughter he will tell you his child is a boy and fight and curse you irrespective of what you say. A sensible person will accept this one na girl make I try again for boy or make the best of the girl wey my wife born. Obidients don’t do reality, they will dress the girl as a boy!
Politics › Re: Name One Senator Who Can Survive 2027 Without Rigging by casualobserver: 1:40pm On Feb 05
Linzo:
I have reviewed the current situation in Nigeria carefully, and it is clear that almost 98% of the senators currently in office would lose their seats in 2027 if elections were to be truly free, fair, and results mandatorily transmitted in real time.

The only senator I know who could realistically survive such an election is Senator Abaribe.

Even in my own senatorial district, [b]Delta North, Ned would not survive a credible contest against any serious Kwale candidate such as Tilije, Osanebi, or my brother and comrade, Ozegbe.
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Name any senator you believe could survive 2027 under a genuinely free and fair electoral process.
You people just talk emotionally without engaging your faculties! What is rigging? You cannot force yourself on a people where you are not wanted. That a minority don’t want you does not mean you rigged. Is it not people that voted? Did anyone force them to vote for the winner? Taking gala and maltina is not rigging. That is inducement. Inducement and rigging are 2 different things. Rigging is the alteration of the electoral results in a a manner that does not reflect the vote of the people.

If I give you gala and you vote for me that is not rigging. Nobody forced you to collect the gala, nobody forced you to vote for me and nobody changed the result of your vote.

That you voted for me because of gala is not rigging, that’s voter inducement. 2 different things. Again nobody forced you to take the gala, nobody changed your vote!

Vote buying (voter inducement) is illegal but did anyone force anyone to collect gala?
Politics › Re: INEC 'recognises' Wike-led PDP Faction by casualobserver: 12:22pm On Feb 05
Richie6:
APC will cease to exist after 2031
You people just make emotional statements based on your wishes devoid of the realities on the ground. Common sense would dictate to those who posses and are able to engage it that of APC makes it in 2027, Obi and Atiku are retired politically. So who are those going to retire APC?

After Atiku and Obi the only strong man in politics is Wike!
Politics › Re: INEC 'recognises' Wike-led PDP Faction by casualobserver:
Sk5050:
Definitely karma will hit him so strong that he won't be able to recover and his entire political dynasty will crumble beyond resurrection.
You people have been shouting karma will hit him karma will hit him since the dawn of time. Some of you here were saying Tinubu will abandon him and Fubara has won.
Last week the president affirmed him as the political
Leader of both APC and PDP in Rivers and told Fubara to behave himself. Don’t be surprised to see Wike as VP to Ribadu in 2031, it’s not beyond the realm of possibilities. At the very least it shows how highly favours and rated Wike is by Tinubu. Wike is untouchable.

When it comes to politics Wike is no2 and the natural heir to Tinubu certainly in the south if not nationally. You don’t have to like him.
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Appeals Conviction, Faults Terrorism Trial by casualobserver: 11:00am On Feb 05
Has he discovered the law under which he was tried yet?
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Isn't A Primary Candidate, He's A General Election Contender - Tanko by casualobserver: 10:54am On Feb 05
All these clowns know Obi will lose the primaries. They know the ADC people don’t like them and are only in bed with them because they need ibo votes. They also know that if Atiku wins with Obi as VP they will be sidelined. The people in the ADC cannot work with the likes of Aisha Yesufu and this clown Tanko. Can you imagine David Mark, ElRufai, Amaechi, etc having meetings with Aisha and Tanko? What ADC want is Obi, they have nothing but disdain and contempt for hillbillies like Tanko and Aisha and will feel disgusted they have to interact will such creatures…..from where? The same thing that played out in PDP will play out in ADC.


They will scatter and Obi will contest on another platform…..mark my words.
Politics › Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by casualobserver:
amazingspiderma:
Definitely an APC mole.
All they do is cast doubt on issues that could help solve Nigeria problems.

Electronic transmission is one of the solutions considering the challenges faced in the last election.
How does it solve the problem? KINDLY EXPLAIN! No system can solve the problem of bad loser who refuses to accept defeat and blames everyone but himself. . Atiku and Obi lost because they split their votes, not because of INEC. If they were so sure they won, why are they trying to recombine now?

Stop spinning the yarn you hear and swallow without thinking and tell us how it solves the problem.


What happens if I hack and alter the results while in transmission? How do you know the authentic result? What happens if there is a submarine cable cut on the day of the election or if the network fails in an area or the whole country? What if I hack the result while in transmission and alter it and it has been announced in real-time only for the people in the polling unit to realize that was not the result declared in my PU?

You have already transmitted and announced a hacked result in real-time. Meanwhile I and others at polling unit know that was not the result at the PU! What do you do then? You will create chaos and will have to revert back to the paper results at the PU. You will create a chaotic environment and give any loser grounds to say the whole election is invalid. All for what? If you still have to refer to the paper results as the ultimate authentic account of what transpired at the PU, then tour electronically transmitted result is ultimately meaningless! All you do by transmitting a result that is later found to be hacked or flawed is render the election lacking in credibility.

You guys need to engage the God given grey matter more often if you still have any left! Some ideas may sound good on paper or in theory until you think them through and realize they actually create bigger problems. Many of you don’t think things through!

You guys just talk! A little more intellectual engagement would do a lot for you and society at large.
Politics › Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by casualobserver:
phonek:
*Why Rejecting the “Mandatory” Electronic Transmission of Results Makes No Sense, and Why Reverting to a Failed Method Is Dangerous.*

APC are arguing that electronic transmission of election results should not be mandatory because it can be hacked. That sounds reasonable, until you think deeper.

First, let us ask a simple question:
Is paper result safe?
No. Paper results can be changed on the road, inside a vehicle, or at the collation centre. People have been rewriting figures for years. We all know this.

Now another question:
Can electronic results be hacked?
Yes, they can. But here is the truth: both systems have problems. There is no perfect system.

So the real question is not “Is electronic transmission risky?”
The real question is:
Which one is easier to protect—paper or electronic?

Paper is easy to change quietly.
Electronic systems leave records, time stamps, and digital traces. If someone tampers with them, it can be detected.

Some people say:
“What if there is no network in the polling unit?”

INEC has already explained this in simple terms:
The result is recorded and snapped at the polling unit immediately voting ends. Even if there is no network, the machine will keep it and upload it automatically once it sees network. So nobody can change it on the road.

Now think again.
If we fear hackers, can a country not also hire experts to protect the system?
If bad people can pay hackers, can government not pay security experts?
That is what serious countries do.

So why are we afraid?
Because the old paper system allows manipulation without evidence.
Electronic transmission makes cheating harder and easier to expose.

The problem is not technology.
The problem is that some people are comfortable with a system that can be bent.
Changing the system will not solve everything overnight, but refusing to improve it will keep us stuck.

Rejecting mandatory electronic transmission makes no sense. Going back to an old method that failed in the last election is dangerous. People have lost trust in INEC, and repeating the same process will not restore confidence. If the old way worked, we wouldn’t be here. To rebuild trust, we must improve the system, not return to one that already failed.

Emotion will not fix elections.
Better systems will.
Paper results are issued at the polling unit and the original results is pasted for the voters at the polling unit to see. In addition, stamped/signed copies are given to agents of all parties and the police. If anyone changes the result, the party agents, police and the voters have copies of the original results. If anyone alters any results, there are multiple layers of control to show tampering of results. If you tamper the results you will have to tamper with the result displayed at the polling unit, the copies with the various party agents, the results snapped by the various voters at the PU.

I stopped reading your post there because it is clear you do t know how the voting process works and have allowed yourself to be gaslighted by the propaganda.

I have said it many times, anyone who takes a dispassionate examination of our current voting system will realise it is one of the more fool proof systems in the world. No system can prevent electoral fraud. What you need from a system is a means to provide evidence of electoral fraud when it occurs and we have that. You cannot rig in Nigeria without leaving evidence. Even the US and Uk voting systems cannot compare to ours. It was designed to catch crooks because we are a nation of crooks. The systems in the Uk and USA operate on trust and good faith.
Politics › Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by casualobserver:
We are a nation of people whose emotions get the better of them.


What exactly was a mandatory electronic transmission of results supposed to achieve?

Does it mean any result that lands electronically is the authentic official final result? What happens if I employ some Russian, Israeli or Chinese hackers to access and alter the results enroute?

How do you prove the results were not altered?

Did I hear you say you will refer to the paper results from the PU of which every agent and the police have a copy of the original? Does it mean if I transmit an altered result it become the official result? Then what is point of making electronic results mandatory if it is not the original authentic result and authentic final authority of what occurred at polling units ? So the only result that can be relied upon is the paper result from the PU? ….Toh!

Furthermore, when you say electronic transmission is mandatory and some PUs fail to transmit due to network issues, does that mean the elections are void? The word here being “mandatory”. If the law says mandatory then it must be done. If not the election is invalid.

So if the result that lands at the server electronically can be hacked, if it is not the alpha and omega of results, if you cannot Guarantee that all PUs will have transmission capabilities, then what do you achieve by making e transmission mandatory but chaos?

You see how we allow emotions to cloud our thinking?

This is how we started with parliamentary system and regional govt and instead of us to fix ourselves we kept blaming the system, changing and changing the system of govt and now we want to go back to the regional govt we now realize was the best but it is impossible!
Politics › Re: 2027: Kwankwaso Stalls Defection To ADC Over Obi’s Ticket Uncertainty by casualobserver: 7:36pm On Feb 02
Zocalite:
Hmmmm

Though this seems fact, but he didn't support tulumbu
tinubu has done more to restructure and reposition Nigeria than any Government since the 1970s. Considering the mess he met on ground, you could argue the best president/head of state in our history. I am not saying he is perfect (God knows he has made some errors) but in the context of what he met on ground and what he has been able to do, he is unprecedented.

No govt has inherited a nation where 97% of revenue was committed to debt payments, where Oil production revenues cannot be touched because the money for current oil production has been collected and spent by the previous government and on and on.

yet in spite of that, we have never seen the scale of road contruction and repairs underway, no more fuel queues, net forex reserves rising to $45B from less than $2.9B in 2023, when was the last time you heard of ASUU strike? we are seeing unprecedented (in recent times) investment in our economy. Elimination of the 2 main sources of corruption and theft by the elite (forex round tripping and fuel subsidy) without making noise, I can go on and on.

take off your rose tinted glasses. if you are objective the signs are glaring, if you are a hater and just want to hate, you will see what you want to see.

i always say the mark of a good leader is the legacy he leaves behind. Show us the roads Jonathan, OBJ, Jonathan or yaradua built? Your grad children will point to the roads Tinubu built.
Politics › Re: 2027: Kwankwaso Stalls Defection To ADC Over Obi’s Ticket Uncertainty by casualobserver: 6:45pm On Feb 02
Shagari, Yaradua, Buhari.......anything OBJ has a hand in is not in the interests of Nigeria. OBJ will never support a president that will outshine him. so if OBJ is supporting someone and your interest is the best interests of Nigeria..stay away from the person.

there is no greater indicator of impending disaster than endorsement by OBJ
Politics › Re: Who Would You Vote Among These Presidential Candidates If Presented And Why? by casualobserver: 3:15pm On Feb 02
Your poll is not well worded. We all know 2 things
1: Northerners are not well represented on Nairaland so The Atiku result is meaningless. You are effectively polling largely southerners.
2: Peter Obi is not getting the ADC ticket.

For a more realistic or insightful poll, you should ask those who ticked Obi if they would vote for an Atiku/Obi ticket as that is the most realistic outcome.
Politics › Re: Eba Island: Ogun And Ondo Battle Over Ownership Of Oil Rich Island by casualobserver: 1:29pm On Feb 02
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