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BluntCrazeMan:Oga this is a turd of an idea. Like I said previously the way of the Nigerian is to knee jerk a solution only to encounter the new problems he has created. Of what use is transmitting results electronically creating a frenzy only to manually tally the actual original votes manually and discover a different result? Do you have 170,000 competent Inec officials at the 177,000 polling units? . Do you know how many results are cancelled at the ward and state levels? Yet people like you say they should already announce results manned by ad-hoc staff only to be cancelled on closer examination of the ballots. We all see the results at the ward and state levels where they ask “any cancellations?” And then they say yes due to over voting etc, these are results that would have been announced and a winner declared under your poorly thought through plan. Manual counting is the best, every body has a signed copy of the result sheet and BVS has a record of the accredited voters. If you need to investigate you can forensically examine every single thumb printed ballot which has been done before. IREV is a viewing portal. We need to do more thinking in this country. |
uniquetechng:I really hate having arguments with people who use exceptions as proof of the norm. In a family of upright people, there will always be a crook. In a group of crooks there will always be one honest person. If you are looking for a talented reliable Nigerian craftsman or tradesman mechanic, plumber, plasterer you will find but you may have to go through 10-20 to find one. Part of the problem also is the lack of standards in you the person employing them, therefore not knowing the difference having yourself no standards or eye for quality. |
Reference:Whatever the case, you can’t compete in the world stage with low skilled workers or poor quality output. Whether that is because of the purchasers of services or providers of services. Congratulations, you have power, you now manufacture but your goods will be uncompetitive in the world market and will not compete with imports without tarrifs. So power is not everything. |
Nteogwuija:I agree with this. The problem though is down to the people. Voters can’t see human capital development and won’t vote for you but they can see roads and useless bridges. It is a viscous circle. Ignorant unenligtened people vote based on ignorance but if you provide the tools to lift them from their ignorance, they won’t vote for you. It’s the paradox of the poor man who constitutes 80% of the population and 95% of the voting public. |
udemzyudex:It’s not because of cheap labour, it’s because of quality of work. We don’t have skilled workers in Nigeria. A few does not negate the fact. The Foreign worker charges the same in my experience, he just delivers better workmanship and is more reliable. A Nigerian worker will lay tiles or plaster a wall and there will be grout all over the place or the wall will be rough. |
erico2k2:You are a minority. And please don’t confuse working remotely with being skilled. There are lots of jobs Nigerians are now doing abroad or remotely simply because those roles have become too low level for the locals in those country for the pay. If Nigerians were truly that skilled and resources, foreigners wouldn’t be here taking low level jobs. The best bricklayers, carpenters, painters etc in Nigeria are not Nigerians. That’s isn’t to say there aren’t skilled Nigerians, the are few and far between. I know. |
BluntCrazeMan:Like I said in previous posts today, what you want is electronic voting. But because Nigerians have a fundamental problem with English they don’t even know how to articulate what they want. Instead they call it electronic transmission. You can’t have real time electronic transmission if you don’t have electronic voting. And sorry to burst your bubble, 1: Nigeria is not equipped for electronic voting, INEC will have to redesign the entire voting infrastructure. Certain Y not in time for 2027 and we do t have the money. 2: more importantly, electronic voting is the worst possible option for someone who wants to prevent rigging or hacking. You will argue with me no doubt but go and ask countries like the USA who practice e-voting. The hacking cases from the Florida votes are still unresolved, glossed over because it was only 1 state. Imagine spending 10years to prove electronic rigging and hacking? And that’s America with vastly more resources than Nigeria. And that’s just one state in America. Imagine if the whole of the USA used e-voting? Now imagine if someone hacked Nigerian election server and you have no manual votes to fall back on or recount? Ask INEC a how many hacking attempts were made on their servers in the 2019 and 2023 elections. In 2023, there were 12.7million server hack attempts on the day of the election. Now imagine if you didn’t have any paper evidence of how people actually voted? As far as I am concerned anyone advocating e-voting is planning to hack and rig the elections. Sometimes we need to see beyond our noses when we ask for changes.
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DrMB:Nigeria has bigger problems preventing the creation of jobs….a majority poorly educated/uneducated and unskilled population. Put in the power today and you will find you don’t have the Local skilled resources to fill the vacancies. Manual labour, yes, skilled jobs no! Even our carpenters, bricklayers, painters etc come from neighboring countries. |
What I don’t like about CSOs like this is that to continue to justify the foreign grants they depend on for their livelihoods they would inflame an ignorant populace. This man is more intelligent and knowledgeable than the nonsense he is spewing. He is merely trying to keep himself and his organisation relevant and in the headlines which equates to more foreign grants from overseas bodies. He knows IREV is not a collation portal, he knows we don’t do electronic voting, he knows we can’t fully guarantee real-time transmission, he knows the minute you insert real time into the law, then any failure no matter how genuine can potentially jeopardize an election because INECwould be deemed to not have followed the letter of the law. He knows IREV is not a collation portal, he knows most Nigerians think it is. He knows votes are not counted based on what is on IREV. Instead of him to educate the public, he is inflaming the situation for his own relevance and foreign grants. |
Queseda:Whatever is on IREV is a COPY of the original. A copy can never have more authority than the original that produced the copy. That is why IREV was never used and can never be used by INEC to collate results. It was conceived as a tool for the public to have an idea of how the results are going in case the public want to do the work themselves and do their own UNOFFICIAL collation, not a tool for INEC to collate. That is why IREV is irrelevant. People have turned this IREV to the means of collation it never was and never can be, whether real time or otherwise. Real time or mandatory transmission of results doesn’t transfer any authority for collation to IREV. Even if it is done in real time, the individual results for 170,000 PU will just sit on IREV there at you staring at you. No totals just copies from 170,000 individual PUs. I remember the last election, after checking about 10 PUs, I got tired and stopped. Except you want to check a few individual PUs or you have the resources like Channels or CNN, IREV is really useless to the average voter other than the confirm the results of a few polling units. No individual has time to go through more than a few PUs on IREV . |
What this whole saga bhighlights once again is that we have a fundamental problem of ignorance, poor understanding of the English language and low intelligence amongst our populace. Irev is a viewing portal. What is on IREV are COPIES of the EC8 forms. It is not the source of the votes for collation. Whether real time or mandatory, it makes no difference to the collation or outcome of elections. INEC DOES NOT COUNT VOTES ON IREV, IT COUNTS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PHYSICAL EC8 Forms. Whether you transit to irev in real time o whether they are transmitted 24hrs later o. It is the physical EC8 forms that are used to collate results at the ward, state and national levels. Transmission of results real-time or otherwise is not electronic voting. Votes that were done manually and collated manually and entered on a piece of paper don’t automatically get collated on the irev server simply because you transmitted or transferred them electronically in real time. Again, IREV is merely a veiwing portal where you can see the votes of individual polling units only! Even if INEC were able to transmit in real time the votes of all PUs in a state to IREV, you will still have to take your calculator and compute the total votes yourself manually. Finally the senate did not remove electronic transfer or transmission of results, they simply declined to add the term “real time” due to the infrastructural challenges and the legal implications. |
Tenses:I just watched a short clip from an interview with a political analyst mohjeed something. I didn’t watch the whole interview but the sound bite sums it up Fubara was given the leadership of the APC in Rivers on a plate, according to him, Fubara was given the ball with an empty net, where Wike the goalkeeper was busy fighting in midfield. instead of him to kick the ball straight into an empty net, he kicked the ball back to midfield. According to Mohjeed. The president waited and waited for weeks while the APC party hierarchy threw their weight behind him, instead of Fubara to do the needful, rally the heavyweights and show his political support he was engaging in petty fights. After waiting weeks, Tinubu realized Fubara is not a politician and threw his weight behind Wike. Watch the 1st minute of this video. It sums up the rivers situation and the political incompetence or mumuness of Fubara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOfl9BLa6Ag?si=ouZEAX4mmNdUCg9f |
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SEGLIZ:See below. The left circle is the shagamu interchange and where construction started from proceeding towards Ore eventually, while the right circle is what he erroneously posted as the Shagamu interchange. That is the Epe/Ijebu express interchange where you turn off to go to Epe or where you land if coming from The new Epe road and construction of the concrete road has not advanced to that spot.
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ppogba:Some people know how roads should be constructed because they were alive when roads were designed properly in this country and they have also travelled and driven on highways and motorways abroad. You will never find a motorway abroad designed with the kind of hard shoulder that exists on the Lagos-calabar highway. Some people don’t know what a hard shoulder is. It is a particularly poor design in an environment where drivers undertake. Again look up the meaning of undertake. It’s a design flaw just as the interchange on the Ijebu-Epe/shagamu Benin in the second picture is also flawed. Let’s see if you can spot the flaw in the second picture. Finally if you join the ministry because it’s the only job available and the best in your graduating set don’t apply for ministry jobs, eventually you despite being a mediocre student will rise to the position of perm sec or director. It doesn’t mean you weren’t a dollhard to begin with. It’s not the 1960s-1970 when only the best were recruited to the ministries. Let’s not forget you only need an average grade of 40% to be awarded a degree. Part of the reason why things don’t work in Nigeria is we copy foreign designs without adjusting them to the realities of our environment. If you cannot enforce traffic laws and lane keeping then adjust your designs for your environment by making sure the hardshoulder is not on the same level as the main carriage way and people don’t mistake the hardshoulder for part of the expressway. Else the typical Nigerian will try to undertake on the right lane (hard shoulder) and run into a stationary broken down vehicle. This is why those with sense who designed Nigerian roads in the past designed hard shoulders that were at a level below the main carriage way. If your car breaks down on the Lagos Ibadan express way for example, you move to the hardshoulder and it is clear to anyone that you are off the expressway. On the new Lagos-calabar road if you break down you are there stuck on the right lane and most Nigerians don’t know what a hard shoulder is talk less not knowing that that lane secluded by the continuous yellow line is not part of the expressway. It is not meant for moving vehicles. Ask 100 drivers what the yellow line is for and only 10 will know, why won’t you have accidents? Even you I am sure you don’t know! FYI it is for broken down vehicles and emergencies. It is not meant for flowing traffic. A typical poorly trained Nigerian driver will try to overtake on the right but because his steering is on the left, he can’t fully see what is to the right of the car he is trying to overtake and numerous collisions with stationary vehicles on the hardshoulder are inevitable. That’s where the design flaw lies. A poorly educated motoring public are going to undertake and collide with broken down stationary vehicles, they did not see. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist or Einstein! The practice is to lower the level of the hard shoulder so drivers know they are no longer on the main carriage way. Have a good day.
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ArcSEMPECJ:Truth be told, while it is exciting to see the new roads being constructed, I keep scratching my head at the thought process behind the design of the coastal road. Makes no sense to me. I anticipate a lot of accidents on Lagos-Cal due to poor hard shoulder design. |
abc115:Your second picture is inaccurate. The current construction going on covers the Shagamu interchange to iperu junction. I don’t think the award for the stretch from there to Benin has been awarded yet and if it has, construction hasn’t started or reached the area in your second picture. The Benin- shagamu section of your second picture is still terrible. The second picture you posted is the interchange that connects the new Epe Ijebu road to shagamu Benin express and it was constructed by the Ogun state govt like 4 yrs ago. There is no federal road reconstruction going on at that end YET. I have been on the stretch from shagamu interchange on the expressway all the way to the interchange that connects to the Ijebu-Epe expressway in the last week so this is 1st hand reporting. That said, work is clearly ongoing and the difference between the reconstructed parts and the old sections is night and day! I also here they will be installing solar lights just like the calabar coastal rd. |
chatinent:Better you vote in Obi so he can return fuel and forex subsidies so there will be no money for roads. Obi has already said he will cancel the coaostalhighway. Who needs coastal highway at N1000 petrol and N1400 to $1. We were better off with bad roads, at least fuel was cheap. |
Holdup247:The best summary of the Wike Fubara situation.
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Holdup247:I have never seen such a bunch of emotional people. They never take time to analyze and study a situation before they comment. They just propagate what they wish irrespective of the reality on ground. If an Obidient wants a son and gives birth to a daughter he will tell you his child is a boy and fight and curse you irrespective of what you say. A sensible person will accept this one na girl make I try again for boy or make the best of the girl wey my wife born. Obidients don’t do reality, they will dress the girl as a boy! |
Linzo:You people just talk emotionally without engaging your faculties! What is rigging? You cannot force yourself on a people where you are not wanted. That a minority don’t want you does not mean you rigged. Is it not people that voted? Did anyone force them to vote for the winner? Taking gala and maltina is not rigging. That is inducement. Inducement and rigging are 2 different things. Rigging is the alteration of the electoral results in a a manner that does not reflect the vote of the people. If I give you gala and you vote for me that is not rigging. Nobody forced you to collect the gala, nobody forced you to vote for me and nobody changed the result of your vote. That you voted for me because of gala is not rigging, that’s voter inducement. 2 different things. Again nobody forced you to take the gala, nobody changed your vote! Vote buying (voter inducement) is illegal but did anyone force anyone to collect gala? |
Richie6:You people just make emotional statements based on your wishes devoid of the realities on the ground. Common sense would dictate to those who posses and are able to engage it that of APC makes it in 2027, Obi and Atiku are retired politically. So who are those going to retire APC? After Atiku and Obi the only strong man in politics is Wike! |
Sk5050:You people have been shouting karma will hit him karma will hit him since the dawn of time. Some of you here were saying Tinubu will abandon him and Fubara has won. Last week the president affirmed him as the political Leader of both APC and PDP in Rivers and told Fubara to behave himself. Don’t be surprised to see Wike as VP to Ribadu in 2031, it’s not beyond the realm of possibilities. At the very least it shows how highly favours and rated Wike is by Tinubu. Wike is untouchable. When it comes to politics Wike is no2 and the natural heir to Tinubu certainly in the south if not nationally. You don’t have to like him. |
Has he discovered the law under which he was tried yet? |
All these clowns know Obi will lose the primaries. They know the ADC people don’t like them and are only in bed with them because they need ibo votes. They also know that if Atiku wins with Obi as VP they will be sidelined. The people in the ADC cannot work with the likes of Aisha Yesufu and this clown Tanko. Can you imagine David Mark, ElRufai, Amaechi, etc having meetings with Aisha and Tanko? What ADC want is Obi, they have nothing but disdain and contempt for hillbillies like Tanko and Aisha and will feel disgusted they have to interact will such creatures…..from where? The same thing that played out in PDP will play out in ADC. They will scatter and Obi will contest on another platform…..mark my words. |
amazingspiderma:How does it solve the problem? KINDLY EXPLAIN! No system can solve the problem of bad loser who refuses to accept defeat and blames everyone but himself. . Atiku and Obi lost because they split their votes, not because of INEC. If they were so sure they won, why are they trying to recombine now? Stop spinning the yarn you hear and swallow without thinking and tell us how it solves the problem. What happens if I hack and alter the results while in transmission? How do you know the authentic result? What happens if there is a submarine cable cut on the day of the election or if the network fails in an area or the whole country? What if I hack the result while in transmission and alter it and it has been announced in real-time only for the people in the polling unit to realize that was not the result declared in my PU? You have already transmitted and announced a hacked result in real-time. Meanwhile I and others at polling unit know that was not the result at the PU! What do you do then? You will create chaos and will have to revert back to the paper results at the PU. You will create a chaotic environment and give any loser grounds to say the whole election is invalid. All for what? If you still have to refer to the paper results as the ultimate authentic account of what transpired at the PU, then tour electronically transmitted result is ultimately meaningless! All you do by transmitting a result that is later found to be hacked or flawed is render the election lacking in credibility. You guys need to engage the God given grey matter more often if you still have any left! Some ideas may sound good on paper or in theory until you think them through and realize they actually create bigger problems. Many of you don’t think things through! You guys just talk! A little more intellectual engagement would do a lot for you and society at large. |
phonek:Paper results are issued at the polling unit and the original results is pasted for the voters at the polling unit to see. In addition, stamped/signed copies are given to agents of all parties and the police. If anyone changes the result, the party agents, police and the voters have copies of the original results. If anyone alters any results, there are multiple layers of control to show tampering of results. If you tamper the results you will have to tamper with the result displayed at the polling unit, the copies with the various party agents, the results snapped by the various voters at the PU. I stopped reading your post there because it is clear you do t know how the voting process works and have allowed yourself to be gaslighted by the propaganda. I have said it many times, anyone who takes a dispassionate examination of our current voting system will realise it is one of the more fool proof systems in the world. No system can prevent electoral fraud. What you need from a system is a means to provide evidence of electoral fraud when it occurs and we have that. You cannot rig in Nigeria without leaving evidence. Even the US and Uk voting systems cannot compare to ours. It was designed to catch crooks because we are a nation of crooks. The systems in the Uk and USA operate on trust and good faith. |
We are a nation of people whose emotions get the better of them. What exactly was a mandatory electronic transmission of results supposed to achieve? Does it mean any result that lands electronically is the authentic official final result? What happens if I employ some Russian, Israeli or Chinese hackers to access and alter the results enroute? How do you prove the results were not altered? Did I hear you say you will refer to the paper results from the PU of which every agent and the police have a copy of the original? Does it mean if I transmit an altered result it become the official result? Then what is point of making electronic results mandatory if it is not the original authentic result and authentic final authority of what occurred at polling units ? So the only result that can be relied upon is the paper result from the PU? ….Toh! Furthermore, when you say electronic transmission is mandatory and some PUs fail to transmit due to network issues, does that mean the elections are void? The word here being “mandatory”. If the law says mandatory then it must be done. If not the election is invalid. So if the result that lands at the server electronically can be hacked, if it is not the alpha and omega of results, if you cannot Guarantee that all PUs will have transmission capabilities, then what do you achieve by making e transmission mandatory but chaos? You see how we allow emotions to cloud our thinking? This is how we started with parliamentary system and regional govt and instead of us to fix ourselves we kept blaming the system, changing and changing the system of govt and now we want to go back to the regional govt we now realize was the best but it is impossible! |
Zocalite:tinubu has done more to restructure and reposition Nigeria than any Government since the 1970s. Considering the mess he met on ground, you could argue the best president/head of state in our history. I am not saying he is perfect (God knows he has made some errors) but in the context of what he met on ground and what he has been able to do, he is unprecedented. No govt has inherited a nation where 97% of revenue was committed to debt payments, where Oil production revenues cannot be touched because the money for current oil production has been collected and spent by the previous government and on and on. yet in spite of that, we have never seen the scale of road contruction and repairs underway, no more fuel queues, net forex reserves rising to $45B from less than $2.9B in 2023, when was the last time you heard of ASUU strike? we are seeing unprecedented (in recent times) investment in our economy. Elimination of the 2 main sources of corruption and theft by the elite (forex round tripping and fuel subsidy) without making noise, I can go on and on. take off your rose tinted glasses. if you are objective the signs are glaring, if you are a hater and just want to hate, you will see what you want to see. i always say the mark of a good leader is the legacy he leaves behind. Show us the roads Jonathan, OBJ, Jonathan or yaradua built? Your grad children will point to the roads Tinubu built. |
Shagari, Yaradua, Buhari.......anything OBJ has a hand in is not in the interests of Nigeria. OBJ will never support a president that will outshine him. so if OBJ is supporting someone and your interest is the best interests of Nigeria..stay away from the person. there is no greater indicator of impending disaster than endorsement by OBJ |
Your poll is not well worded. We all know 2 things 1: Northerners are not well represented on Nairaland so The Atiku result is meaningless. You are effectively polling largely southerners. 2: Peter Obi is not getting the ADC ticket. For a more realistic or insightful poll, you should ask those who ticked Obi if they would vote for an Atiku/Obi ticket as that is the most realistic outcome. |
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