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DIVINEEVIDENCE:
Kwankwaso really overrated himself that year.

Tufiakwa.

So did Obi. Before you say he got 6m votes, he didn’t win.

saintkel:
To our Yoruba brothers who didn't care if Obi was from d east or so....we say thank u....God continue to bless u deeply

You will still curse them in 2027.


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coputa:
The scene is dominated with past political office holders with tainted image and records regrouping again.

We need people like pat utomi,sowore, verydarkman,moughalu, Natasha,rewane,okonjo iweala and host of others.to pull this nation out of the woods

Forget Pat auto I, he has been part of the system since 1979.

The Northern elements that are ganging up against Tinubu are not doing so to hand power to Peter Obi of all people. The only reason they engage him is because they recognize he has a lot of followers.

Trust me if the only option is Obi they will rather manage Tinubu for another term.

Zeebuy:
You're talking like this is the first time tinunu has gone on his foreign medical tourism

Really? Where did I say so?

I am responsible for what I say, I am not responsible for you seeing things that aren’t there.
What I typed was in English! Perhaps you have English comprehension issues?

I doubt this visit was a ruse for a medical consultation is not the same as he doesn’t go abroad to treat medical issues.

I don’t think this man stole your property does not mean this man is not a thief.

English! …..stop abusing the language! If your English comprehension is poor look for a forum in your local language!

Paulnoma:
Why will people even book space, if you gat nothing to say then let who's gat something meaningful, let them comment.

It's crazy, I sometimes look for even meaningless letters to add to it.

This ban of a thing I have never experienced it before sha, let them find a way to do it, person no fit come day yarn nonsense just to fill up 40 characters.

I don’t understand it too myself but they do it but the response of the moderators is achieving the opposite effect. It is actually making the experience on Nairaland more unpleasant for people.

Noblechykk:
Your mentality is the way Nigeria is the way it is because a significant number of Nigerians reason the same way. Now let me educate you using your analogy. Everybody falls sick but the health condition of a public official is not private. What it means is that whenever a president or another elected public wants to on a medical vacation, it would be made public because the medical bill is being paid from the country's treasury.

That’s a different issue and I agree. Try and stay focused and use your brain and argue based on the point being made. My point is if I as president wanted to arrange a secret consultation with my doctor, i could easily arrange for the doctor to come to Nigeria. It’s different if I am visiting the doctor at his base. If I am flying him out of his base, I am the president of Nigeria, I can arrange for him to come to Nigeria in complete secrecy! The NSA is my boy, the DG NIA is my boy. I have trusted Allies than can arrange it in complete secrecy here in Nigeria.

Furthermore, if you read my opening post and have proper English comprehension, I said “while possible, I doubt it”. Meaning the above is what I would do. I left space for the possibility that it is true because I also recognize he has some not so brilliant advisers in his inner circle.

Paulnoma:
Dem go come for you now, try hold your peace. We will get used to it soon sha, i believe it's to encourage engagements on posts.

Let them come for me. Every day they ban me multiple times in a day for posts that contain nothing offensive.

It is a rule that makes no sense. Because of a few people that try to book space they make life difficult for the majority. Some responses require only a few words.

Somebody opened a thread asking which APC chairman is the best. Is there any APC chairman that has 40 characters in his name? Why allow the thread?

Nonsense!

Noblechykk:
You are the one watching too many James Bons movies. Since you know there are many secret guest houses, others know too.

It can also be arranged in the home of a private individual.

In any event, do you expect a man of 70+ not to have medical challenges?

The average healthy life expectancy of a Nigerian is 55years. What that means is most Nigerians of 55+ have a permanent medical condition they are dealing with. Diabetes, HBP, kidney, knee problem, glaucoma, prostrate, fibroids etc etc. at that age the doctor is your friend!

Paulnoma:
For our naija, na one week one ______....

This 40 character wahala, I don't understand honestly

I tire for brain dead moderators!


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Ofunaofu:
Col Abubakar Dangiwa Umar, (RTD) spoke like a true Patriot

Agreed! I remember he was very prominent in the struggle, especially as a military man and a Northerner.

While possible, I doubt it!


They could easily fly the consultant into Nigeria under cover and arrange any required equipment to be in place . The government has many secret guest houses where they can Hold any “consultations”.

I think SR have been watching too many James Bond movies!

The same David Mark that allegedly threatened to shoot Babangida if he handed over to Abiola?

SpatialKing:
Is better to be Abacha boy than indulging in drugs business in the USA to the extent you were caught..

“he spent all his years in Nsukka, “peddling stuff” rather than studying philosophy“

https://thewhistler.ng/peter-obi/

Introducing the Real Peter Obi Part 1 By Obiora Aghadinuno

OPINION & INTERVIEWS
By The Whistler On Sep 10, 2015



The trouble with Peter Obi is that he thinks that he is cleverer than everyone else. He maintains a bland and colourless surface that conceals a grandiose interior. He talks with the voice of a woman in a labour but carries a heart of stone. He maintains a well cultivated religious outlook but his soul is the engine room of demons.


The former governor of Anambra State reminds me of a luscious apple with a large maggot neatly embedded in its middle. So, can we really blame those who mistake him for a good man?

The trouble with Peter Obi is that he believes that no one else is smart enough to see through him; that he remains opaque and enigmatic to people around him. He immerses himself in so many devious games of intrigue and subterfuge – revealing only a side of him that he wantsto share with the public; a side of him that seems pleasant and kind. But beneath the surface lies a vicious puff adder. The disingenuous side that lays bobby- traps for his successor with the eleventh hour award of multiple contracts without any provisioning.

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The trouble with Peter Obi is not just that he thinks that he could deceive the priests and the religious in Anambra State after forcing a wedge between the denominations and setting the house of God on fire by instigating bitter rivalries between God’s servants. No. It is that Peter thinks that the rest of us would believe his innocence once he is decorated with high religious titles and maintains the well-worn attitudes of false religion.

Meanwhile, the landscape is still reeling from the many horrors of his my-church-is-better-than-your-church policy which polarised brothers and split time-honoured friendships. If Peter does not consider us all fickle and thoughtless he wouldn’t have left the Governor’s Lodge, Amawbia, still asking whether Anambra is cursed. He would have accepted that he is the curse himself; the very pox that has continued to corrode Anambra State even after his exit from power.

The other trouble with Peter Obi is that he believes that after stealing Anambra State blind, he could just rustle up a ridiculous handover note and force-feed his voodoo accounting principles on the rest of us and we would lap it all up without question and remain eternally grateful that we have been touched by an angel. What a cheek! Peter thinks that because he spent all his years in Nsukka, “peddling stuff” rather than studying philosophy, we are all addle-headed like him and would not remember or understand that in any accounting process, there are assets and liabilities as well as credit and debit. So, he manufactured a aughable handover note that is full of dead bodies and believes that by shouting about it from the rooftops, our attention would be diverted from him while he enjoys his loot in absolute peace.

Worse still, he believes that his spin doctors have all the cunning and firepower to weave believable stories that would mislead probing eyes. So, he directed them to shout about his phoney N75bn anytime Governor Obiano’s performance seems to attract a positive reaction and hijack the encomium for the little god of Agulu.


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Unfortunately, in his blind pursuit of vendetta, he fails to realise that many people are aware that no one in his right mind would withhold or divert an applause meant for a governor who has proved himself with a resounding performance in one and a half years. He forgot that sooner than later, people would begin to wonder if the great achievements they are seeing all over Anambra State are still the products of the past administration which “democratised poverty” with its famed “supermarket” knowledge of economics.

They would begin to ask questions about all the local government allocations in eight years and the huge security votes that have now been ploughed into building poorly run shopping malls in Abuja and elsewhere. People would also ask questions about the blatant rape of Anambra State, the award of contracts without due process, the dubious collaborations with South African businessmen and the criminal neglect of Awka, the state capital, for so many years.

Naturally, they would shudder at the utter lack of big ideas in eight years and the disastrous entry into national politics that cost Goodluck Jonathan a well-deserved second term and threw Ndigbo into a political evil forest. Of course they would remember that Chukwuma Soludo had warned Jonathan of the inevitable consequences of having Peter as his adviser.

But Jonathan did not pay attention. He had hoped that if Jesus had told Peter, “Upon this Rock will I build my church…,” then, he too could build his second term hopes on the Peter of Agulu. Now, it has dawned on Goodluck Jonathan that Obi is a different kind of Peter; in fact, that this Peter is no ROCK at all!

The real trouble with Peter Obi is that he takes himself too seriously. Peter believes that his “clever” politics of yester years is still valid today. So, he goes around visiting schools that he had starved of funds as a two-term governor, handing out miserable N1m cheques while smiling impishly to cameras and hugging the widows left behind by elder statesmen whose medical bills he had refused to pay while they struggled for life and making a meal of the photo opportunities. And funnily, he believes that we are all conned into accepting this moth-eaten image of a squeaky clean “St. Peter.”


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The niggling trouble with Peter Obi is that he does not understand that you do not preserve a legacy by fighting for them or constantly reminding the people about them. No. Once we struggle to preserve a legacy, it takes something away from it. Legacies are like monuments embedded in memory. They are not easily washed away by the vagaries of time. They continue to announce themselves through the ages by the sheer force of their enduring value.

A great legacy does not need the hagiographic skills of Val Obienyem or the praise songs of Mazi Odera. A legacy endures in the very lives of the people that it exists to serve. So, in striving to preserve the roads he built and the cheques he handed to Mission Schools and hospitals, Peter Obi is unwittingly calling attention to his lack of signature projects; his lack of a legacy. And the import of all this is not lost on us.

In the end, the actual tragedy of Peter Obi is the fact that he has chosen to write his name in the dark chapters of history. And no one should save him from his destiny. It is the road he chose to travel and the cobwebs of infamy are waiting to engulf him as he journeys.

Obiora Aghadinuno

Tareq1105:
Exactly why I don't take a surreptitious person like Obi seriously.

When he came in 2022 I was supporting him but when he claimed he had only one wristwatch, I slowed down. Then later someone posted 5 of his pictures at occasions where he wore 5 different watches.

Shortly after, he posted his flight tickets to Egypt where he claimed he doesn't have money so he flew Economy. The social media took it up and our youths fell for his lies.

It was there and then I concluded that he was a deceitful person and I stopped following him.

You don't have to deceive people before you get their support. No doubt, Obi seems to the youngest and less corrupt than others but attempts to deceive the public is another form of corruption.

Please don’t ever make that mistake, they are all corrupt! If not for the land invasion , we wouldn’t know about the land he bought in Ikeja in his company’s name while he was a sitting governor. Do you know how many properties he has bought in the name of real or shell companies?

Dbegining:
Just spreading rumours. No established fact. "they say"

You know who "they say" spread rumours? People that are not bright.

There is no rumour.

As at the time the property was purchased he was a sitting governor. Today he is the indirect owner of the property. No sitting public official buys property in his name they always use proxies! You buy property in a proxy’s name you leave office and claim control over your property.

Next foods owns the property. He and his brother are the owners of next foods. Either partly or fully, He is the owner of the land!

I am sure you are not blind and can read

gidgiddy:
He was a very successful businessman before entering politics. To give you an idea how successful Peter Obi was, he used to be Chairman of three Banks, Fidelity Bank, Guardian Express Mortgage Bank and Guardian Express Bank. Some even say owns a sizeable share of Guarantee Trust Bank

Oga nobody disputes that Peter Obi is a wealthy man. He never claimed he wasn’t and nobody claimed he is poor.

Peter Obi is the one who goes around portraying himself as frugal, modest and austere.

You don’t tell people you have only 1 shoe, 1 wristwatch, 1 house etc only to find out you indulge is excesses like Crystal champagne behind closed doors or that rather than owning one house as you claim you actually own multiple properties but you buy them using proxies, like the Ikeja saga. You don’t go around giving the impression you only travel economy only for people to find you in business class, first class and private jets.

The point is he is a wealthy man, he is entitled to spend his wealth as he chooses what he can’t do is to deceive Nigerians or preach what he doesn’t practice. Put up a show in public but do something different in private.

helinues:
Some governors are struggling to achieve something like this

Lagos is not like other states. Wike has constructed over 150km of roads like this in just 2 yrs as FCT minister! Im sorry, Ican’t see what Wike is doing in FCT and be praising Sanwoolu.

While the road is welcome. Sanwoolu needs to do better!

Ikaeniyan0:
Even if he declare a state of emergency in the north, it won't bring an end to insecurity

They are the ones causing the insecurity. We know the play, they did it to Jonathan!

Insecurity was heading downwards, suddenly talks of coalition, suddenly rise in insecurity!

Furthermore it also appears Beatrice Hocquart who sold the property to Next foods in 2011 had no legal right tothe property as at 2011 and was aware of court judgement on the matter where she was excluded from his estate.


The high court had determined that she was not entitled to the estate of Theophilus Hocquart and she appealed. The case was not determined until 2017. Therefore she had no right to sell the property to Obi in 2011.


I don’t know how the case was determined in 2017 (you have to pay to read the final judgement) but irrespective, as at 2011 when she sold the property, the records available show the Lagos state high court ruled that she was not entitled to the estate of Theophilus Hocquart! She may later have been granted the estate in 2017 but it appears that as at 2011 the high court had declared she wasn’t a beneficiary of the estate of Theophilus Hocquart.

I have been trying to get info on Mrs Olorunlogbon purchase of the land from the FG in 2003 but so far hit a dead end!

fergie001:
I do not think any Governor is joining.

Atiku has long abandoned the PDP.... The Diri -Committee is rumoured to have zoned Presidency to the South..... So it's looking more of Makinde.

Makinde is doing the Lords work, splitting coalition votes!

givedemwotowoto:
I have said this over and over, Peter Obi is the one holding the key to the Presidency if certain key figures in the North put their weights behind him. Any other candidate is wasting their time, you can't compete in the South, Tinubu will crush you.

Those in the North who have turned their backs on Tinubu are not doing so to back Obi. Stop day dreaming!

The situation is simple. Peter Obi knows the coalition are only interested in his SE votes. He also knows they won’t back him for the presidency in 2031 or after.

He knows they are setting a trap for him. The same way they swerved him at PDP primaries they will swerve him at the coalition primaries.

He also knows he can’t win on his own and that if he becomes VP he will be sidelined!

All this is from his point of view. The reality is he won’t be president or VP because Tinubu does not lose elections.

magoo10:
Hundeyin should calm down if not for how useless the government is we shouldn't be talking about 2027 almost 2years before the next elections.
It is not normal for Peter Obi to start declaring interest on how he wants to run now.he is more concerned on providing ideas for changes .

Please share with us these ideas he has provided!

What is a smart police station? The concept of police and smart? Hmmmm

Can you see where it says federal government gazette? The land in question is the blue dot. The gazette was from 1946. Like I said to that numb skull who I blocked (I can’t type his name because I won’t see my own post) whenever a government acquires land it is gazetted! The land originally belonged to the federal govt, what happened after, at this point I really don’t know. Whether it belonged to Mr Hocquart I don’t know, whether it was still the property of the federal govt when they sold it to Mrs olorunlogbon I don’t know. But it was originally federal govt acquired land!

Obi’s title chain claims the land was sold to Mr Hocquart by Adeola Odeku. Whether that sale was legitimate or not I can’t say. I told you the story of a plot of land my father bought in Ibadan that we later discovered had 3 registered titles at the land registry? The person who sold the land to my father was a prominent high ranking member of the Ibadan elite just like Adeola Odeku in Lagos. So clearly land raqueeteering was the order of the day amongst the elite of the day.

Cc: agabusta

agabusta:
Detailed. Well done

Fresh revelations, the matter has taken a twist o!

See my latest post on the matter here

https://www.nairaland.com/8461978/obi-raises-alarm-someone-erects/3#135918441

This Obi land matter is becoming interesting o!


It now appears that the man they claim owned the land Theophilus harquart died in 1984 intestate and without children. A woman Beatrice came up claiming to be his daughter and engaged some lawyers to claim the property. It is rather suspicious that your father died and you did not obtain probate for 24 years? Initially her case was thrown out because she claimed to be the daughter and it was discovered that she wasn’t his daughter but possibly the daughter of someone with the same name possibly his brother.


Where federal govt comes in with claims to the land I don’t know but Mrs olorunlogbon claims the land was sold to her by he federal govt in 2003.

There is something very suspicious about this whole land on both sides. Was the land truly owned by Theophilus harquart or was it his official residence. Was it a case of some conspirators cheating the legal system to claim the land of a man they know had no survivors?

Was the land truly owned by the federal govt and was it theirs to sell to Mrs Olorunlogbon.

At this point to be honest I don’t know. What is clear is that the land was abandoned for a long time either because the owner was dead or it was abandoned federal property. Usually when this happens land grabbers step up to make a claim.

Whatever the true ownership, what I do know is that the property was purchased by Obi and he is being deceitful by saying it belongs to his brother.

It gets even more interesting: guess who is a director in a company called Next interiors? Yep you guess it the woman who claimed ownership of the land. Beatrice Hocquart!

Cc:helinius