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Ihedinobi3:
Re: Your questions about Song of Songs.
1. We can know that there is life in any literature or any message if we have life in ourselves too. It is a response of kinship (1 Corinthians 2:9-16; John 10:26-27, compare Romans 8:9). The life which is in Scripture is the same life that believers have as a result of their Faith in Jesus Christ.

Ok. I have the life of God in me because I have in Jesus Christ my Lord.

2. What are the characteristics of anything which lives?

Ihedinobi3:
Re: Your challenges about my statement.
1. I actually said that as long as any literature possesses the Breath of God, that is, life, it is Scripture. That is what makes anything Scripture. I've said that so many times on this thread that I have become a broken record. So, yes, if you can find life in any literature, that makes it Scripture. It certainly doesn't have to be the 66 books that Evangelical Protestants accept, although incidentally it is only those books that believers have found to have this quality. So, it is entirely your own words, not mine, that there are Scriptures besides the 66 books. I know of no other Scriptures outside of those books. No other book possesses the Breath of God in it. But then, you don't have to take mine or anybody else's word for it. You can believe whatever you please.

one time you said you don't know and another time you came to a conclusion that there is no other book that possess the life of God except the 66 books. Is that not self confusion?

Anyway I have the life of God in me, I have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and I touch life in any literature that has the life of God outside the 66 books of the Bible.

Mr Ihedinobi3 it is not the fault of believers who see life in literatures outside the 66 books of bible. It might be that you are not mature enough spiritually to see the breath of God in them.

You can believe whatever you please and me too. Lol.

Ihedinobi3:
2. I have no idea how I am wrong or being sentimental here. It is only reasonable to expect that only those who have the same Life as that which is in inspired literature will be able to recognize it in them, so any believer who reads Scripture will recognize it as such. It's that simple. If someone claims to recognize life in any other literature, then I'm not stopping them from treating it as Scripture. They just aren't believers in Jesus Christ, so they don't need to expect believers in Jesus Christ to agree with them. I, like all other believers, cannot detect life in anything outside of those 66 books. It's just not possible for us. So, we are not the same as those who see life everywhere. There's a fundamental difference between us. Mormons have the right idea: they separate themselves from believers (and everyone else, I'll grant) because of their unique ability to detect the Book of Mormons as Scripture. I'm dead certain that no Mormon would be offended if I refuse to identify as a Mormon or to treat them as fellow believers. It should be the same with those who see life everywhere. They don't have to force their ability to see Scripture in every literature on those of us who only see it in the 66 books.

people come and see o.

I have life because I have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and if I see life in any other literature outside the 66 books I'm no longer a believer or not a believer. With this statements, are you sure you are not wrong or sentimental Mr Ihedinobi3? Do you even understand what you are saying?

Ihedinobi3:
Re: Why I think the life of God is limited only to the 66 books
You mistake me. There is no thinking happening in this matter, any more than there is in your calling a wall a wall and a door a door. I am not thinking that the life of God is limited to 66 books, I simply can't see it anywhere else,[/b]and there is a completeness to the 66 books that make it completely unnecessary for me to look for it anywhere else.

You don't see it because of your spiritual level and thank God the life of God is not limited to 66 books.

But if you want to see it clearly you can act like Zacchaeus that climb a tree or press forward like the woman with the issues of blood.

Ihedinobi3:
[b]Re: What is this Life exactly?
It is just as you said, "the life of God" (John 6:63; Hebrews 4:12).

Lord God Almighty let thy Holy Spirit in me continually lead me to see your life anywhere and everywhere through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Ihedinobi3:
Hello.

Although I have not been addressing you on this thread, you've been here, and, given your question, you've seen my responses to other people here. In quite a few of those responses, I repeated several times that one can only know what is Scripture by the presence of life in the Message of the writing.

1. How do we know that the songs of Solomon has life in it?

2. What are the characteristics of this life in the songs of Solomon?

Ihedinobi3:
That's it. Any believer can tell if something is Scripture just by reading it. That is how believers have known for millennia which books are inspired and which are not.

@bolded if broken down into simpler units will indicate that;
1. "If something is scripture".........this is an indication that any book can be scripture if life is in the message of the writing. It also indicates that the life of God's inspired book is not limited to 66 books except you are trying to tell us that the "Life" you are talking about is limited.

2. "Any believer"..........this is an indication that you are wrong or just being sentimental towards believers that hold the book of Enoch with high esteem because they "might have seen the life" you are talking about.

But then again, this can only be proved when you tell us about the "Life in the message of Writing" you are talking about.

Ihedinobi3:
In other words, as I told your cohort here, it is not because any book is in the collection accepted by this church or that church or this or that group that we consider it inspired.

My brother it is good I judge things from the characteristics of the Life you are talking about. But my question;

Since inspired books are not by collections why do you think the life of God in writings is limited to 66 books collections?

Ihedinobi3:
It is not because the Song of Songs is among the 66 books accepted by Evangelical Protestants that I or any other believer considers it inspired. We consider it inspired because we can sense life in the words of the book. When we read it, itself declares that it is God's very Word. It is on the basis of this testimony that the book makes for itself that God-fearing believers down the ages have accepted them as Scripture. Evangelical Protestants merely accept the witness of the book itself. They did not and do not create canons. The books themselves are the canon.

Then back to my original question what is this life exactly?

Mr Solite3 how will you proved that the book of Philemon is God's inspired book supposing it was not part of the 66 books?

Mr Ihedinobi3, how will you proved that the Songs Of Solomon is God's inspired book supposing it was not part of the 66 books?

Take it or leave it Bishop David Oyedepo striked a covenant with God concerning prosperity which many of his rivals are yet to understand. Although I don't support his approach to tithing and is one thing I pray he should come to the proper understanding as a new covenant/testament Christian.

Nevertheless, his style of leadership, zeal for excellence beyond physical challenges, his recent approach to criticisms, art of boosting the confidence level of his listeners are worth emulating. In fact Bishop makes one become more serious, especially one that is after good success.

That the church does not display her charity deeds on social media is not an evidence that they don't give aids as at when necessary based on their ability. They do it without blowing Jericho's trumpet.

Help with the little you can and you will surely have more to help a larger population.

Prosperity in heart, spirit, soul and body is a must and all way round.

May poverty and ignorance not be our portion in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Thanks.

God bless.

gobuchinny:
This antiquities of the jews seem interesting from what I read. I will soon get to it.

The Aroma of the book is getting to me with the way OkCornel is portraying it.

OkCornel if I finish my mama's food I will come eat this in your house, so better reserve my share.

MuttleyLaff:
It's alright, things like that happen when one gets excited, lol

Dont you now? Na which mouth you use tok and make such a sacrilegious comment as this with, erhn, lol.

OK then, what about this other verse then, its the next verse after the popular well known world famous, star verse Job 38:7 that everyone ignores. I dont know why people refuse to take notice of or acknowledge it, so dont ask me, but maybe, if I want to guess, I'll say its because people are so used to reading bible verses in isolation to other verses up and below the verse they are focused on.

Anyway, CaveAdullam, hey, here is the verse, it is Job 38:8. Is Job 38:8 now that convincing enough for you, huh CaveAdullam? Is it anyway close to the flood that occurred in Genesis, hmm CaveAdullam? lol. Talk now, lol.

CaveAdullam, tbh with you, you need to revist Job 22:15-18, carefully and thoughtfully read it and then keep me updated on what you think of it

no correlation yet muttley.

MuttleyLaff:
CaveAdullam, I love it when you are exercising those gray matter muscles. It's good nice one. Keep it up

CaveAdullam I never made any comment about Job existing before the flood ooo. Please don't dump marijuana inside my pocket abeg, lol.

Taking the mention of flood further, correctly and fyi, Job existed postdiluvian CaveAdullam, in simple and easy language, that means, he lived after the flood, lol.

I know you are itching to have proof or evidence of this, so here is one out of others I can give you. Check out Job 22:16, and let me know what you think of it, lol.

Alright, maybe I didn't get the proper understanding of your points so forgive me if I didn't presents your statement rightly.

I don't think the flood in Job 22:16 is anyway close to the one that occurred in Genesis.

OkCornel:
My brother, this matter tire me mehn...
Just see someone calling me an apostate making such an incredible gaffe.

They admit on one hand that some of the early church fathers highly valued the book of Enoch, but on the other hand...it is not the word of God.

I can only shake my head in pity for this 21st century ignorance.

My brother please wait, because my mind is open towards the truth and nothing but the truth, I always yearn to get proper understanding on any topic.

If Job is the oldest book of the Bible don't you think muttleylaff "might" be correct to say Job lived before the flood?

Just reasoning.

solite3:
Why is the book of enoch not added to the bible?


Conclusion:
You asked the question, “Why isn’t this wonderful book included in the Bible?” The answer is that Jesus and the apostles never called it Scripture. It is important to note that a few early church fathers highly valued the book of Enoch, but they never referred to it as Scripture. Therefore, we cannot view it as authorative since it is not the Word of God.

So Jesus Christ read the books of the new testament. Hmmmm! Wonderful!

Can you please enlighten me sir, where and when did the Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles made a list of scriptures Christians should read?

OkCornel:
How on God’s green earth can a fully grown man come and tell us the book of Jude was written before the book of Enoch?


There are a lot of illiterates on this platform.

Mbanù, God made reference to the inspired books of Satan when He was compiling His own 66 books but for what exactly?


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

MuttleyLaff:
CaveAdullam, I like it when you begin reasoning and with questionings, so here is a poser question for you, if the book of Enoch is all that esteemed, why isnt there just a single black and white mention of the Book of Enoch, anywhere in scripture, just the same way as those other almost 20 listed books in my earlier comment made to you, erhn?

Is the Book of Enoch that much of an outcast, that no one was prepared to unrestrictedly mention the name of the book ni?

In my own black and white paper Bible, Jude and Peter made reference to the book of Enoch.

OkCornel:
Per the bolded, exactly!

Ignorance is indeed a disease. Some dudes here are telling us the words of an Eternal God that existed and spoke long before man invented ink and paper ... now suddenly has ALL HIS WORDS contained in 66 books.

satan did not used his words from his own inspired books to tempt the Lord Jesus Christ but decided to used the words of God in psalms because he knows his words are those of deceit and God's word is true.

How then will God now make reference from the inspired words of satan in the preparation of the 66 books?

Just reasoning.

OkCornel:
Hahahaha...

I didn't know the Lord of Glory, the Lord of Spirits and the Son of Man in the book of Enoch are also angels ooo

The book of Enoch giving devotion to angelic beings? what manner of 21st century illiteracy is this?

I'm very sure these guys talking have not studied this book of Enoch, merely hinging on hearsays and the opinions of others. Smh...

Ah swear down. It's 5mb basic YouTube go video that caused it. Even me self was a victim. Lol.

Hearsay o. Read they won't. How can someone just be arguing using 10 minutes YouTube videos or as the case maybe as substantial evidence when the case is opened freely for investigations?

I guessed if another person wrote the things that Jesus Christ did which John did not write or mentioned as a result of time, energy and space, the books will also be considered a tool of the devil for the new age movement prepared by gnostics.....LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Looooooooool...... How I love you my Lord Jesus Christ.

budaatum:
Some think reading a book is for belief, and can't understand that some read books for understanding. I am just glad not all think that way and personally delight in you all's reading.

classic specimen of a human being @muttleylaff, you see this post by uncle buda, yes you have seen it, it is the exact way I have recently started to view things along side books.

I know you want me to tread on good grounds and thanks for that. What I'm really after concerning any spiritual book is the way it ACKNOWLEDGES THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

DOES THE BOOK REGARDS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SON OF GOD?

DOES THE BOOK RECOGNIZES THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST JESUS AND HIS PAROUSIA?

If the book tallies with what the Bible says concerning these facts I sheath my sword, take hold of my microscope to see if there be any trace of heresy so that I might come to a proper understanding.

The most important note I always take is how it package the personality of my Lord and God; Jesus Christ and If found wanting it automatically becomes false to me.

I gained some insights in that post of yours concerning tartarus, Sheol, hell, Hades Gehenna.

Thanks.

God bless.

MuttleyLaff:
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You have decided to join the gang and become a tool in the devil's workshop too, hmm, abi?

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Whats the point of this comment and meaning of the laugh, CaveAdullam erhn? You really for that comment and smirking laugh, smh, fall for my hand, and nobi small fall sef hin be.

Now #1, CaveAdullam, if you werent aware, I stopped pricing market anymore from this person I have become to know to be a persona non grata. I am since after that now repeatedly have being stalked and harassed by this person even after making it clearly known to the person that I dont want to have anything to do with the person ever again. To rise prick, nobi by force nau.

#2, is in relation to the above quote of mine. As you can see from it, I have more than once previously passingly treated what Jude and even Peter before him was doing with Jude 1 v 6, but hey some of us have challenges reading post thats longer or more than two sentences, lol.

CaveAdullam, if its you, if you have any specific questions or have anything specific you want illiumination on, then why not please kindly ask me directly yourself. You know I'll always oblige you and never will I get tired from attending to you. Why cant you just do that, instead of losing your faith of me just like that in this matter and be laughing at me. CaveAdullam, I am OK with others slapping me in the front & on my face, but hey nwanne dear "friend" here's your knife back, I pulled it out from left in there, sticking out of in my back.

Awiite let me ask you the question my self;

Jude 1 v 6;

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Now further questions for those proposing the sons God to be the Sons of Seth

1) Which angels was Jude referring to in verse 6, and when did they leave their first estate?

2) If you say it is those angels that rebelled alongside Lucifer, shouldn't they all be in everlasting chains right now awaiting judgement? Shouldn't this earth be free from demons and evil spirits?

3) The sons of God spoken of in Job Chapters 1 and 2, are they also male descendants from the lineage of Seth?

OkCornel:
Lol, that’s why he’s playing the ostrich.

I have read the book of Enoch volume 1,though once, but I found it a nice read, gave more expositions on the 66 approved books of the Bible, and for the now no trace of heresy.

However, I will try to launch an investigation why it is not regarded as an inspired word of God, and same with other apocrypha that fall in the same line with it.

Thanks.

God bless.

OkCornel:
The person above keeps on postulating theories on how the sons of God are men from the lineage of Seth, and yet keeps on playing the ostrich to the poser below;


Jude 1 v 6;

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.


Now further questions for those proposing the sons God to be the Sons of Seth

1) Which angels was Jude referring to in verse 6, and when did they leave their first estate?
2) If you say it is those angels that rebelled alongside Lucifer, shouldn't they all be in everlasting chains right now awaiting judgement? Shouldn't this earth be free from demons and evil spirits?
3) The sons of God spoken of in Job Chapters 1 and 2, are they also male descendants from the lineage of Seth?

Any move will be a checkmate.

Lol.

Abdulgaffar22:
Whenever there is need for the production of a particular protein inside the cell, the following summarized events take place;

1. The enzyme known as RNA polymerase make a "copy" of little relevant information from the DNA located inside the nucleus of a cell. This little transcribed copy of DNA is called the messenger RNA.

2. The messenger RNA now "travel" out of the nucleus and head toward the cytoplasm to find the ribosomes.

3. The ribosomes then "read" and "translate" the information carried by the messenger RNA.

4. The transfer RNA "transport" the necessary raw materials (different amino acids) from the cytoplasm to the factory (i:e the ribosomes) where they would be assembled and processed into a functional protein base on the translation process done by the ribosomes on the information carried by the messenger RNA.

5. The functional protein would now be "transfer" to the exact place where it is needed, either inside the cell or outside the cell.

Based on the events of protein synthesis explained above, let us ask some reasonable questions;

How did RNA polymerase manage to RECOGNIZE and COPY the required little information out of the bank of information contained inside the DNA ?
It is like you are being asked to go and copy a little information written on a particular page of a voluminous encyclopedia. See how difficult the task would be for you to do despite your intelligence and consciousness.
But now consider an ordinary enzyme like RNA polymerase that lack such intelligence and consciousness. How did it manage to carry out this difficult task ?
How did the enzyme "know" where to start copying the information and where to stop ?
Can this biological information itself (i:e DNA) and this enzyme (meant to recognize and copy different portions of it ) evolved by chance or came to exist by intelligent design?

Again, how did messenger RNA manage to travel out of the nucleus and head toward the ribosomes ?
Out of all the organelles (like mitochondria, golgi apparatus, lysosomes, smooth endoplasmic reticulum, secretory vesicles, centrosomes etc) present inside the cytoplasm, why did messenger RNA decide to "choose" ribosomes and move toward it ?
Can this wise choice evolved by chance or came to exist by intelligent design ?

Furthermore, how did ribosomes manage to "read" and "translate" this biological information ? Was this process of reading and translating evolved by chance or came to exist by intelligent design ?

Moreover , look at the transfer RNAs that transport the raw materials (different amino acids) to the factory (ribosomes) where they are assembled and processed to become a functional protein. Again, why did transfer RNA also manage to deposit those raw materials inside the ribosomes out of many other organelles present inside the cytoplasm ?
Was this also evolved by chance or came to exist by intelligent design ?

Finally, after the production of the required protein, how did protein manage to be transported to the site where they are exactly needed ? Was this process of transportation to the targeted site also evolved by chance or came to exist by intelligent design ? Does chance has any "will or power" to choose what the cell require ?

If all these events are too complex, specific, directional and purposeful to be evolved by CHANCE, then is it not "INTELLIGENCE" that is orchestrating all these events ? Is there any third option ?

But if this "intelligence" cannot be attributed to unintelligent and unconscious atoms or entities that make up the cell organelles or the physical universe, then who is the owner of this very intelligence other than the Creator of all living things ? It is this very intelligent Creator we describe as God

please send me your email address.

Thanks.

God bless

malvisguy212:
Even though we share different believed, I must confessed, you did a good job here, God bless you my friend. thank you.

abdulgaffar22 and blabbermouth are really skilled in the faith they profess even though they are standing on different grounds.

Lordreed on the other hand always go head to head in every facts unlike some of his empty skull colleagues(atheists) that spew trash here when met with facts face to face. Kudos to him for this and I know that very soon he will come to the true knowledge of the light; The Lord Jesus Christ.


TRUTH IS TRUTH AND FALSE IS FALSE. YOUR BELIEF DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BUT GIVES YOU A PROPER UNDERSTANDING ON A BETTER FOUNDATION ON WHICH TO STAND.

The truth will definitely reveals itself in the passage of time without any effort of men and I'm glad it's happening already. I'm also more delighted because I believe in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ thereby saving me of more stress and aches.

There is God, and whether you believe or not doesn't change the fact and also have no effect on Him but you.

Thanks.

God bless.

How to win friends and influence people is a bomb.

God bless Dale Carnegie

God bless every good authors.

MuttleyLaff:
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Common guys win this trip kẹ? Smh.
From the best answers wins a scholarship to study the course of your choice,
its now turned into "common guys win this trip"

PS: CaveAdullam, I see you reading thread, say something now

That young man is assuming what has happened already. He want to twist the scenario and it won't work. Even a thousand reasons cannot suffice enough because no man knows the heart of God except the spirit of God.

Since it happened that way lets take it that way instead of brewing up unnecessary controversies.

Don't put yourself in a trap you cannot rescue yourself.

This is purely assumption/imagination of purely established facts and it certainly will bear no good fruit. That means no reasonable answer.

Ask real questions my dear brother.

Thanks.

God bless.

Just read books on archaeology and the Bible then the answer you seek you shall find.

Thanks.

God bless.

False humility is not humility at all. Many have said it all in regards to this thread and your current state Mr jesusjnr and you need to heed to their sayings and reproof.

Only God knows what you are coming back with but my prayer for you is that you come to the true knowledge of light and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Trace your steps backward and repent Mr man.

You are under the influence of deceiving spirits and the earlier you seek for deliverance the better for you my dear brother.

Thanks.

God bless.

malvisguy212:
well, there is big different between me and you; your religion is DOING ( legalism) while my religion is DONE ( Christianity).

I am resting on the finished work of JESUS. when the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross He cried out, "It is finished" John 19:30. The work of our salvation was FINISHED, DONE, ACCOMPLISHED and COMPLETED.

the religion man try to swim from place to another. but the SAVED man enter a boat , he allowed the boat to do ALL THE WORK. salvation is by atonement on the ground of DIVINE MERCY, what you need is a NEW HEART.

Is it possible for sinful men to perfectly keep God’s holy law?

Blessed are you and your household. You are wise in heart.

@bolded, I am blessed.

Thanks.

God bless.

jesusjnr:
[s] Wow! So Jesus had such a track record, yet your beloved Paul whose teachings you place above that of Jesus would still see Him as a heretic, proud, a blasphemer, false prophet etc. before Jesus arrested him, and told him the Truth.

So my question was, if you were there would you be any different from Paul who thought that about Jesus and persecuted His church before his conversion?

It's easier to talk about track record now, but then what would you have done when He brought things different from what they were used to?

You were so sure of yourself then that it wasn't Jesus who appeared to me until you got to know what transpired, and then you went to delete your previous comments. So why did you do that bro? Now you're so sure of me being under the influence of deceiving spirits right? I hope you don't delete this your comment oh!

Ok the works right? Is that your problem? So you can't see my works? Okay. Holy Spirit you have heard him oh! He asked me where are my works and you know it's not my job to do works. Okay oh.

Very soon we'd know who is deluded amongst the two of us, for I have quoted this your comment, so even if you delete yours, you can't delete my quote. You are still talking of track record sounds like a broken record to me for with all the track record of Jesus as you said, Paul, your beloved whose words you'd place above that of Jesus, still saw Him then as deluded, a heretic, a false prophet, a blasphemer etc., so are you sure track record is really your problem or you're just using it as flimsy excuse to justify your delusion?

I put it to you that you won't be any different, but you'd do the exact same thing to Jesus because of your erroneous orientation, but know it now that there were those who didn't need track record to believe in Jesus.

However speaking of track records, what was the track record of Paul your Lord, when he was trying to correct Peter who learnt from Jesus and Barnabas also who was there before him, and personally brought him to the apostles when they were yet afraid of him? Instead of learning from them the teachings of Jesus that works was important, he was trying to teach his erroneous antichrist doctrine of being justified by faith not by works. {Galatians 2:9-16}

Nothing was said of the opinion of James and John concerning him, but go and read the book of James Jesus' brother and tell me whose errors he was trying to correct and not Paul's justified by faith or saved by grace and not works or obedience according to Jesus.

A lot of people are in hell today because they believed Paul's erroneous teachings that they were being justified by faith or saved by grace, not knowing that at the end it's Jesus that would decide not Paul.

By the way i know that you are really lost, but I still think you're better than some here because you didn't use EnthronedbyGod backing of me to lie and allege false things against him as some others did. God bless you for that bro, it made you earn my respect to some extent.[/s]

Thanks.

You are confuse oga.

Trace your steps backward and repent Mr jesusjnr.

All this things may you dey yarn na dust.

jesusjnr:
You're really oozing ignorance but you don't know it.

You don't even know the same pride allegations you level against me are same the Antichrist Pharisees levelled against Jesus.

The Lord Jesus Christ proved Himself beyond reasonable doubt oga. He had a track records of pure evidences that the Pharisees knew within them right from Genesis unto that time.

The prophecy at Eden, Noah, Abraham, Moses, the Law, Psalms, the prophets and their prophecies and John the Baptist are His witnesses and truck load of evidences.

What are your track records jesusjnr, what evidences do you have that you are still on the narrow way of life and not under the influence of deceiving spirits?

jesusjnr:
Maybe because Jesus didn't heed their ignorant and foolish corrections and reproofs made Him proud.

Jesus said if the Pharisees don't believe Him at least they should believe the works He do.

Then my question, what are your works jesusjnr?

jesusjnr:
You're so lost and don't even know it, you want to correct my supposed errors and at the same time don't think I can correct the errors in Paul's teachings.

You are really deluded.

Only your track records can be used a standard to correct Apostle Paul's teachings. Peter, James and John were the closest to the Lord Jesus Christ among the chosen 12 disciples and yet they agreed with the teachings and doctrines of Apostle Paul. But hell no, your delusion cannot make you trace history properly and understand facts concerning the Bible.

jesusjnr:
I repeat that you should continue in your iniquity and don't obey what Jesus says because you believe the teachings of Paul that you're saved by grace, so when we appear before Jesus, we'd know who really needed deliverance.

John 1:12-13, John 3:16, Mark 16:16.

With the above scriptural references, I know you will now understand why you need instantaneous deliverance.

jesusjnr:
I had cancelled your comment but I had a rethink because I should know better than towing the lines of your foolishness.

Peace.

A fool is always wise in his own eyes.

jesusjnr trace your steps backwards and repent.

Thanks.

God bless.

jesusjnr:
Lol! The Truth is too hot for you to handle that you had to cancel it, instead of at least taking what's good in it and leaving the bad?

Later you'd accuse someone of being proud not knowing that being proud in the sight of men might mean being humble in the sight of God.

It's quite unfortunate that you don't know that you need His help the most but you're ignorant of it, for someone who places the teachings of a mere servant above the Master's teachings.

@ bolded, a fresh wine cannot fit into an old wine skin, I don't do mixture, truth is not grey, if it is not plainly the truth then it is solely meant for the trash can.

jesusjnr trace your steps backward and repent.

Thanks.

God bless.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

I'm laughing at the magnitude of your ignorance of the truth.

A mixture of lies and true claims is not Truth oga.

Truth doesn't contradicts itself. Truth is never in a hurry. Truth manifest itself effortlessly without the help of men rather than this your attention seeking syndrome and creation of unnecessary topics of no spiritual or physical help in this religion section.

As it is now, it's either you don't know truth at all or you are far from it thereby pretending to have it.

For the fact that you don't take heed to reproof, instructions and correction is an indication that you are seriously under the influence of deceiving spirits and the earlier you trace your steps backward the better.

But I don't know how you can change for the better when you have spent seventeen years playing this game. Hmmn, I trust God will definitely help you since with Him nothing is impossible.

Pride goes before a fall brother, I hope to see you repent and come to the better knowledge of the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Have a nice day.

Thanks.

God bless.