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tot:
My issue with write ups like these is they place the FOCUS on the devil and his activities. It reminds me of Rebecca Brown's books and other similar books that end up promoting fear.

Yes you are very right, there is much focus on the devil and his activities because majority of Christians don't know what is happening in the spiritual realm. I think we should be bothered about media related piece that promotes the works of the devil rather than those that expose and condemns them.

Believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work is the DOCTRINAL PART OF CHRISTIANITY, experiencing your victory is the PRACTICAL SIDE OF IT and this is where the game of Christianity lies. Knowing the plans and tactics of the devil gives you proper knowledge on the right ways in dealing with him.

In essence, what I'm saying is that information is POWER.

BTW have you read Rebecca Brown's book or you are just Following reviews from blogs that don't like Rebecca Brown?

tot:
The Bible clearly tells us that Jesus Christ is far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come, and He has put all things under His feet and has made Him the head over all things for the church (Ephesians 1:18-22). So why would one be analysing and focusing on things / spirits / lesser powers already placed under the authority of Jesus? For what purpose? Does this edify? Does this build up faith?

Molech, Teraphim, Ashtaroth, Chemosh, Behemoth, Leviathan, Prince of Persia, Dagon etc were all mentioned in the Bible. But have you asked yourself this question, though they are under the Lord Jesus Christ why were they brought to our notice, why did the Holy Spirit not skip them? If they can no longer operate even when under Christ Jesus what then is the essence of Ephesians 6:10-20?

He wants us to know their capacity, operations, and how to work in victory over them even though they have been conquered. It edifies and builds up faith because the more you become acquainted with the devices of the devil the more you want him to suffer at your feet.

If the Bible does not inspire fear in you, then this article and other related articles should not except you choose to be inspire by fear in the midst of the Spirit of Love, Power and sound mind.

tot:
Well, the Bible tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling, the Bible should be your SOLE source as a Christian, nothing more or less.

The Bible is our radius, we take coordinates from that point but that does not mean we should not learn from others and their testimonies when it does not contradicts the Bible.

Thanks.

God bless.

butterfly777:
I see that some people have not differentiated between exposing the devil or promoting fear about the devil. Remember, every testimony is about the destruction of the work of the devil. Even our Lord Jesus Christ spoke many times about the devil - to educate His people.
- Be not ignorant of the wiles of the devil,...
- my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...
I know many Christians have fear issue. Mention demon/witch/robbers, etc even in testimonies and they are scared. But does it mean we prefer to watch the kingdom of Satan glorified in the movies we watch Rather than see him exposed and disgraced via revealing threads like this? Ok, you have not noticed how the promotion of witchcraft and glorification of demons have pervaded the movies the young ones, and even adults are watching nowadays, Satan teaching them how to be witches. Just check the trend in Western entertainment, it's unapologetically promoting witchcraft and demonism.Any complaint abt those? Or is it because they are cleverly served as entertainment?
Anyway, back to my earlier path, fear is often a personal issue. I remember watching a Christian movie Agbara nla , when I was still small. It made us children afraid . But that doesn't make the movie bad. There are many lessons in it. The fear was mainly out of our immaturity.
I learned from Rebecca Brown.

Thank you for your sincere note of caution anyway. We appreciate that.

But those of us who can handle it will continue learning here. Maybe op should have added viewers/readers discretion.
@ EnthronedbyGod, where did we stop sef? ...

viewers/readers discretion...... Looooooooool

SMBH:
Lol... The beauty of science is that you can disprove a theory if you have sufficient envidences unlike religion.

What you call beauty is actually the problem of science. Too many provings and disapprovings. Some scientists say life evolved from water and after further investigations it was disproved. Others belong to the school of thought that life evolves from land, others air and some Big Bang Theory. Is this not playing with peoples mind? Where do they actually want us to stand as laymen who are limited to resource and data?

Religion remains unchanged, what it is today is what it will be tomorrow. All you need to do is to explore it. Your evidences tends to give you more understanding unlike science that its evidences tends to bring something new. I'm not saying we should swallow all what the clerics are saying but try to investigate it on our own to really ascertain the truth.

Nevertheless, Science has really helped man just as the OP has highlighted in so many areas we cannot even start to mention. But the truth is that science is biased towards the supernatural, and the supernatural cannot just be explained away, if we all have a open heart even though we all are not COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE we will come to the knowledge of the truth.

Thanks.

God bless.

EnthronedbyGod:
Homosexuality isn't misinterpreting scriptures bro, so get that right.
It's a luciferin agenda, it's the reason God destroyed Sodom in the days of lot

The devil came to KILL, STEAL AND DESTROY. In either of these tools box of the devil you will find SCRIPTURE MISINTERPRETATION AND HOMOSEXUALITY. Don't get it twisted bro.

EnthronedbyGod:
I'm supporting both you and @Jesusjnr, cos as far as I'm concerned your point on restitution was also scripture misinterpretation.

Lol. Restitution is a doctrine of man but a thing of the conscience, our sins have been cleansed by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. If restitution will not start from the beginning and to the very end it is better not to start at all. Guilty conscience haven been cleansed by the blood must be dealt with by the Spirit of Truth because who the Son Of Man has set free is free indeed.

EnthronedbyGod:
I said earlier the picture was similar but not 100% perfect.
Go back to what I wrote when the pics was posted
The picture by the catholic is totally fake and false.
I've seen Him 4 times and it's strictly grace and not my making, so I'm sure of what I saw.

Looooool. The question is how sure are you? I know the portraits displayed by Catholics are fake and false but can you prove yours with some circumstantial evidence?

EnthronedbyGod:
If you haven't seen Him, the right thing to do is not to meddle into it.

My earnest prayer is that you see Him in Jesus mighty name.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Why are you so sure that I have not seen Him in a Trance, Vision or Dream? My brother My brother!

EnthronedbyGod:
I love you from the depth of my heart, but won't reply again, as you well know me.

Edited

God bless

Towards the end of the book Forensic Faith by Jim Warner Wallace, he said Christians won't grow effectively because of Knowledge and Pride, a thing he is guilty of and same with you and I (if you like deny it).

No man is perfect except through Christ Jesus because none is an island of knowledge but Christ Jesus. Unreasonable Faith even in the midst of evidences is not faith at all but pride.

Thanks.

God bless.

EnthronedbyGod:
I hadn't seen a portrait of Christ close to what I saw, till I came across the pics on his thread, I noticed it was similar to Christ when I saw Him, that's why I told him to post it here, cos a guy asked me what Christ looked like.

If you say so.

EnthronedbyGod:
We shall see Him face to face and will know if His looks are similar or not, so if you've never seen Him before I plead with you to keep mute as regarding something you aren't sure of, cos that's what a true Christian does.

Lol. What if another comes up with a new portrait tomorrow? How are you sure that this portrait is true when compared to the ones displayed by the Catholics?

EnthronedbyGod:
I'd rather stand with someone who interprets scriptures in a way dislike, than stand with someone who supports homosexuality, just like I stood with you despite our differences on restitution.

God bless

Lol. You are saying the same thing, same tune but different languages. Let me shock you bro, you are standing and supporting both of them at same time. The keyword is MISINTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURES.

Thanks.

God bless.

MuttleyLaff:
CaveAdullam what is all this now after all you read me write. You want to say you having seen what I beggingly wrote to you ni?

CaveAdullam, you and I, go take legs enter same and one trousers ooo. Leave this person alone, dont waste your breath, time and energy on jesusjnr. He doesnt deserve having both our breaths, time and energies.

That is the last dose Classic Specimen Of A Human Being. ayam sorry sir. Lol

jesusjnr:
Whatever you say you're entitled to your opinion, but it has absolutely no atom of significance in my sight, besides you shouldn't complain since you first mentioned me here even though I didn't respond then.

You can now continue in your folly with your homosexualist brother, for this is the second and the last time I would respond to your foolishness here and elsewhere on this thread, because just as him you're not worth being dignified with a response.

Thank you and God bless.

Shey you have mouth abi, you know how to talk bla bla bla, henceforth any revelations of yours that cannot be confirmed by the Holy Bible will be counted as leap of your foolishness. So before you say anything in regards to Christendom here and outside this forum just endeavor to have back up scriptures.

Did our Master the Lord Jesus Christ resided back to the caves when challegend by the Pharisees? Answer me bros.

You are scared of the truth, your heart becomes broken when you see your most cherish false revelations about scattering in the Light of the Truth. Is this how you behave; by doing hide and seek with the unbelievers when carrying out the assignment of the great commission?

Instead of doing hide and seek with CaveAdullam, Anas09, Muttleylaff and other Monikers why not come up with at least a reasonable rebuttal even if it is not robust.

BTW that portrait you and your cohorts are parading as Jesus Christ is False. I'm telling you so that you guys won't make a fool of yourselves outside this forum.

Gold is Gold because it has passed through Fire. Jesusjnr come test your revelations with the fire of the Holy Ghost if you are so sure of them and stop playing hide and seek.

Thanks.

God bless.

jesusjnr:
I first encountered this guy sometime late last year when I first came to Nairaland on one of my early threads. But it seems I was immediately able to sense that something was wrong with him from the onset, since I deliberately ignored him despite responding to some others who even quoted me after him.

But he kept disturbing me and trying to seek my attention, so I thought I should respond to him for all his efforts and at least hear what he had to say.

Do you know that my decision to ignore him at first was justified because I regretted it after doing so, because I had found him to be someone that would say something, but at the same time be denying what he said even when the evidence of what he said was right in front of his eyes.

That made me know that he had really serious issues, and that arguing with such a person would be a waste of time, so from then up til this very day I have never responded once to his mentions at least not directly, not even once.

But do you know that if someone can die by mentioning, that poster could have not only killed but already buried me by now?

The first time I came to know he supported homosexualism was from the mouth of someone close to me here, a former atheist, who had told me she had made a thread to call him out for his support of homosexualism, abortion and I think divorce, but I advised her not to get into the gutter with him, and after much pleading she finally agreed to shelve it.

And you can see how wise that step was, for today what was secret has been revealed, but you can yet see how useless God's instructions concerning the abominable act is being completely denied and ignored by him as though they don't exist.

But prior to him coming fully out to openly declare his support for homosexualism, there was someone active on this thread formerly with the moniker arogbeide or so, now caveadullam, who I had told this concerning him, but this guy completely denied it to the extent that caveadullam believed him that I just made that up as a smokescreen.

But I believed the caveadullam lived to regret it because what the homosexualist denied beforehand to his belief, he was later on the neck of the same caveadullam preaching the gospel of homosexualism for caveadullam to accept, to his embarrassment I believe, because I who had forewarned him about such concerning that fella was a witness to it all.

But yet this was the same homosexualist that was here mocking me on this thread at some point when I was at the receiving end of many attacks and jokes, and even mocked and rejoice at my departure from the thread then, was being foolishly joined by the same caveadullam to laugh me to scorn.

And at that point knowing their folly and truth about what was going on, I just left without responding to their concerted onslaught, but here I am back on this thread by the Holy Ghost and not by man, but you can see the treatment the unrepentant and passionate homosexualist who mocked me is now receiving, and tell who is now the butt of many jokes.

Hence my plea to you to ignore him even though he mentioned you, because if you expect him to not mention you for you to ignore him on this thread, then you would have to keep responding to him till thy kingdom come.

At least not on this thread if you really care about souls, for I expect you should have seen how despite that anas09 had attacked me severally on this thread, I had to settle any scores with her out of this thread, because this thread means a lot to me as you may have already seen from my several comments here.

So I join the op to yet plead with you again, ignore this guy, even if he mentions you.

God bless.

This one just mentioning CaveAdullam up and down........ Vbosùnü Jesusjnr? Keep this your trash of "False Humility" to the can, I don't care......... Wetin happen bros?

See the way you castigating the classic specimen of a human being @muttleylaff when you yourself have flaws.............abi no be you say Apostle Paul for Bible made many mistakes make you still dey try correct? oga sir, Jesu Christi say make you remove the log of wood may dey your eyes before removing the speck of dust may dey muttleylaff eyes.........shikena

You want us to see you as being highly spiritual by claiming "Lucifer himself came to visit you abi branch your area, that I nor care. Number 2 you came up with a portrait of Jesus Christ on this thread, Hmmmm....... Your head never still tell you say you are under delusion abi?

Homosexuality is abominable and I will rather risk my ticket to heaven for hell than accept the claims of homosexuality no matter how true it may appear. Muttleylaff is a CaseMaker, because you are scared of the truth you don't reply his mentions unlike Shepherd and OkCornel......... And here you are bros painting apostle Paul black and calling others all sorts of nonsense.

You don't throw away a baby in a water bath because of the bad water bro. What you do is separate the infant from the water bath and do away with the bad water and that is what you see me doing with muttleylaff. What binds every Christians together is not doctrines or denominations; be it celestial, cherubim and seraphim, Christ embassy, winners, catholic, synagogue, redeem etc Na JESUS CHRIST NA BE THE YOKE WEY BIND US TOGETHER. Inasmuch you believe in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ with all thy heart, Spirit, Soul and Body you are free to go BUT WILL NOT GROW EFFECTIVELY WHEN ENTANGLED IN THE WRONG DOCTRINES.

Oga Jesusjnr you have not repented. But the Lord is willing and able to help you only if you will pray the prayer of PSALMS 139:23......... E go pain you o but Las Las na you go still dey enjoy am wella. Lol.

Your strawman is always too bad bro. Any truth that cannot stand the light of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God will begin and end like the tower of Babel.

Thanks.

God bless.

jesusjnr:
I first encountered this guy sometime late last year when I first came to Nairaland on one of my early threads. But it seems I was immediately able to sense that something was wrong with him from the onset, since I deliberately ignored him despite responding to some others who even quoted me after him.

But he kept disturbing me and trying to seek my attention, so I thought I should respond to him for all his efforts and at least hear what he had to say.

Do you know that my decision to ignore him at first was justified because I regretted it after doing so, because I had found him to be someone that would say something, but at the same time be denying what he said even when the evidence of what he said was right in front of his eyes.

That made me know that he had really serious issues, and that arguing with such a person would be a waste of time, so from then up til this very day I have never responded once to his mentions at least not directly, not even once.

But do you know that if someone can die by mentioning, that poster could have not only killed but already buried me by now?

The first time I came to know he supported homosexualism was from the mouth of someone close to me here, a former atheist, who had told me she had made a thread to call him out for his support of homosexualism, abortion and I think divorce, but I advised her not to get into the gutter with him, and after much pleading she finally agreed to shelve it.

And you can see how wise that step was, for today what was secret has been revealed, but you can yet see how useless God's instructions concerning the abominable act is being completely denied and ignored by him as though they don't exist.

But prior to him coming fully out to openly declare his support for homosexualism, there was someone active on this thread formerly with the moniker arogbeide or so, now caveadullam, who I had told this concerning him, but this guy completely denied it to the extent that caveadullam believed him that I just made that up as a smokescreen.

But I believed the caveadullam lived to regret it because what the homosexualist denied beforehand to his belief, he was later on the neck of the same caveadullam preaching the gospel of homosexualism for caveadullam to accept, to his embarrassment I believe, because I who had forewarned him about such concerning that fella was a witness to it all.

But yet this was the same homosexualist that was here mocking me on this thread at some point when I was at the receiving end of many attacks and jokes, and even mocked and rejoice at my departure from the thread then, was being foolishly joined by the same caveadullam to laugh me to scorn.

And at that point knowing their folly and truth about what was going on, I just left without responding to their concerted onslaught, but here I am back on this thread by the Holy Ghost and not by man, but you can see the treatment the unrepentant and passionate homosexualist who mocked me is now receiving, and tell who is now the butt of many jokes.

Hence my plea to you to ignore him even though he mentioned you, because if you expect him to not mention you for you to ignore him on this thread, then you would have to keep responding to him till thy kingdom come.

At least not on this thread if you really care about souls, for I expect you should have seen how despite that anas09 had attacked me severally on this thread, I had to settle any scores with her out of this thread, because this thread means a lot to me as you may have already seen from my several comments here.

So I join the op to yet plead with you again, ignore this guy, even if he mentions you.

God bless.

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EnthronedbyGod:
No hype me abegooo.


No man is an island. Iron sharpens iron

No matter how much inspiration one has he has to compare and contrast to make sure he's on the right track.

If I tell you I've not read books that'll make me a liar.

I've definitely read books, though most of the books I've read as a Christian are biographies and books that have to do with Christian maturity,gifts of the spirit.
I've read loads of biographies, if I mention the amount you'll be shocked.


Yes, God raised me 90% to be whom I am, but I also read many books by other men of God.

Lol. Regardless of that you are still enthroned by God. Let your good works continue.

Thanks.

God bless.

EnthronedbyGod:
I've heard of the book of Enoch, but never heard of the book of Jasher.
Mine is 200 fallen angels, maybe you can read the books again to confirm if they said 70 or 200, however regardless of the number, the main thing is that they confirmed thesame thing i said.
I also never knew it was on mount Hermon, this is the knowledge I have , but thank God you have come across something similar before,but I'll like you to check up again if it's actually 70 or 200 because with the wày you said it you weren't too sure of the number.
All thesame i appreciate your effort for it confirms what i posted.
God bless

wow. I thought you read some books as an addition to your knowledge about this topic. If this is true and purely inspirational my dear @EnthronedbyGod, you are truly enthroned by God.

Keep up with your good works.

Thanks.

God bless.

Frozen brain.

budaatum:
The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus by Lee Strobel

Pdf dload

The case for Christianity is different from the case for Christ. What about questions Christians Hope no one will ask PDF by mittelberg?

MuttleyLaff:
1. Faith under Fire by Lee Strobel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyEkHJ0jKNY&list=PL_IZBabl5Ol2nUIhFALtQ661s6oOsGazE&index=12&t=0s

Got it. But I need to pay more attention so that I can be able to understand the main point.

MuttleyLaff:
2. The case for Christianity by Lee Strobel.
http://www.divinerevelations.info/pdf/the_case_for_christ.pdf

I have this before. Thanks anyways.

MuttleyLaff:
Bonus
3. The Questions Christians Hope No One Will Ask (with answers) by Mark Mittelberg.
https://files.tyndale.com/thpdata/FirstChapters/978-1-4143-1591-1.pdf

This is just the excerpt of the book. I will appreciate if you can help me with the complete PDF file.

Thanks.

God bless.

Classic specie of a human being @muttleylaff please I want you to help me with the PDF files below should in case you have it in your shelf. This is the present location I can find you and please don't find it offensive, biko nwanne. Lol

Shepherd00 nwanne, leave argument for now and join me in this search. Lol

1. Faith under fire by Lee Strobel.
2. The case for Christianity by Lee strobel.

Other related PDF files or direct download link are also welcomed.

@OP I don't mean to derail this thread, keep up with your good works.

Thanks.

God bless.

budaatum:
I'll think about it. After you educate us first.

Who is Jim Warner Wallace?

What is Forensic Faith about?

Jim Warner Wallace is the author of the book forensic faith. He is an American detective. As a result of his career, a detective in cold case homicide, he was able to establish some facts that supported Christianity and the main figure; The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the reason for GOD even when he was an atheist. He is now a born again Christian, using his intelligent profession to bring out "reasonable and possible facts" that really supports the claims that Jesus Christ is the Way, Truth and Life. This is what Forensic Faith is all about. Lol

He has written other books like Cold Case Christianity and God's Crime Scene which are prerequisite to Forensic Faith.

Anyways I have the book already in epub format. But I will also need you to help with "The Case For Christianity by Lee Strobel" should in case you have it in your PDF shelves.

Thanks.

God bless.

Please budatuum can you help me with the Forensic faith pdf by Jim Warner Wallace?

Thanks.

elated177 can you please help me with the forensic faithpdf by Jim Warner Wallace?

EnthronedbyGod:
Let's agree to disagree, I'll rather stick to what the Holy Ghost taught me, however I'll like to ask you 2 questions and I'll need a sincere and direct answer from you.

1- If you got a job with a fake certificate, and along the line you got born again.
Will you continue with the job, since Christ has forgiven your sins, or will you go to the management and tell them you're resigning?.

I will resign.

EnthronedbyGod:
2- If you were the governor of Lagos state and looted $20million dollars and ran to Cambodia after your tenure. The EFCC then declared you wanted.
While in Cambodia you got born again, and noticed you still had about $15million left, will you restitute the money or continue your stay in Cambodia, spending the money since your sins have been forgiven.

while still in Cambodia, I will contact the EFCC so as to discover the best plea option, sort things out and send them the remaining money. The essence of seeking the best plea option is to avoid any form of disturbance when I arrive Nigeria.

Thanks.

God bless.

damesilver:
I still couldn't get your contact on both platforms. You are not visible kind of.

but that's my whatsapp number. Please check if you copied the right digits.


Thanks

damesilver:
I still couldn't get your contact on both platforms. You are not visible kind of.

That is my whatsapp number, I don't have any telegram ID.

damesilver:
Please share your telegram ID. It's better that way from my end here. Or your whatsapp no.

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EnthronedbyGod:
3[b]No man can restitute for all he has done for that's impossible and unrealistic, but sometimes the Holy Spirit brings some things to our memory so that we can make our ways right.[/b].

If at all restitution should be done, it must be done completely!!! That's my stand. If the Holy Spirit brings to your memory "somethings", what about other things He neglected, are they not worthy of restitution? or is He now partial?No, God forbid!

Since no man can restitute for all he has done because it's impossible and unrealistic, I think the Holy Spirit will not lead any man to proceed with restitution. If any man proceed with restitution it must be as a result of his troubled conscience and not as a result of the leading of the Holy Spirit(because he won't lead man in tasks that are impossible and unrealistic). A conscience that has fully come to the knowledge and understanding of grace of the Lord Jesus Christ by faith won't be troubled by restitution.

Nevertheless, let the Holy Spirit leads.

Thanks.

God bless.

MuttleyLaff:
"♪♫♬ See me see trouble. Am I a yahoo boy? Ẹ ra mi, ẹgba mi o. Shey mo jọ ọmọ yahoo? Emi o mọ Sars. Sars t’emi mọ is Sarz on the beat. Ọlọpa kole mu wa. Tani sars fẹ mulọ ni bi?. Ẹyin blogger blogger. Shey mo jọ ọmọ yahoo? Shey wọn kọ yahoo si mi lori ni? Am I a yahoo boy? Emi hotmail, mo fine gan. I am not a yahoo boy♩♪ ♫ ♬"

You this man, again, have turned up on this thread with another of your lopsided and off-balance questionings.

If only, you're going to be truthful and honest, let's face it, no one is capable of fully doing restitution, and this is why the ultimate or final restitution has been made on our behalf by Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. Now before you start to hop off and going to try be quoting Zacchaeus for me, just remember that Zacchaeus promised and did restitution because Jesus hadnt yet died for us and the laws of restitution hadnt then yet been nailed to the cross

Now, watch this CodeTemplar, a man has a muslim, was married to four wives before converting to a believer/chtistian, what restitution about his four wives are you expecting this ex-muslim man now to do, hmm? Some former killer armed robbers that are now turned pastors, what restitution pato, are you expecting from them, hmm? What restitution are you expecting from a woman that aborted a three month old pregnancy, hmm? Or someone that "killed" an only child of a widow, hmmm?

"I don't reject God's kindness. If we receive God's approval by obeying laws, then Christ's death was pointless
(i.e. for if keeping the law could make us right with God, then there was no need for Christ to die)"
- Galatians 2:21

"But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit."
- Romans 7:6

Listen CodeTemplar, just as Zacchaeus, who instead of the restitution law (i.e. Leviticus 6:4-5 or Numbers 5:6-7) that demanded one must make full restitution for a particular sin and add a fifth of the sin's value to it, but was lead by the Spirit to give half of his property to the poor and pay four times as much as he owed, to those he had defrauded and/or cheated on, in any way, so anyone is expected to do. Restituition has been done by Jesus Christ for us, as I've earlier said, however, only do what you have to do, as you're being persuaded and/or led by the Holy Spirit to do.

The real restitution, I maintain, has been done on our behalf by Jesus Christ, who has puchased back to us all that the devil has stolen from us, now if possible, and so far as it depends on you, you may want to make restitution, but sometimes, it's best to not go wake a sleeping dog but to just let sleeping dogs lie. 1 John 2:2, says about Jesus and what He has done on our behalf, that: "He is the payment for our sins, and not only for our sins, but also for the sins of the whole world."

What if he isnt able to contact the victims to ask for forgiveness?. What then happens, hmm? Are you guys sure there actually is a spelled out biblical basis for restitution sha, hmm? Does after the finished work on the cross of Calvary, Jesus command restititution, erhn?

"But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be required of you. Then who will own what you have accumulated?’"
- Luke 12:20

"Make no mistake about this: You can never make a fool out of God. Whatever you plant is what you'll harvest."
- Galatians 6:7

AMP:Therefore if any person is [ingrafted] in Christ (the Messiah) he is a new creation (a new creature altogether); the old [previous moral and spiritual condition] has passed away. Behold, the fresh and new has come!
2 Corinthians 5:17

I concur with you. But as the OP will say, we cannot all agree on the same thing.

It is better to forge ahead with your new life in Christ than look for ways to repay your past sins when Christ Jesus has sets you free.

Restitution ti long ti stressful............. Can any really fulfill the demands of Restitution i.e from birth till you became born again?

Let the Holy Spirit leads.

Thanks.

God bless.

damesilver:
You didn't leave here the means to send it to you. Please do so on time as I do not often frequent this forum with my main account. I usually read as guest.

watchmanjesse5002@gmail.com

Thanks.

damesilver:
Yes.

please send me the volume 3.

EnthronedbyGod:
I said something earlier when I wanted to end the day thread and I'm going to say it again.

I was led to do this by God, if I made any mistakes, it's not God that made the mistakes, but my flesh.

I love everyone(@caveadullam,mariangeles,@liquidwords,@Anas09, @michaelkaroh,@OCTAVO, @codetemplar). If any of the above names has unfollowed pls come back.

I love all equally.

It's not only jesusjnr i said supported me, I also mentioned bodydialect.


Let's continue in peace and love without attacking each other.

God bless.

Brother I always visit this thread day and night, keep up with your good works.

But one thing I want each and everyone of us to understand is that no man is an island of knowledge, only the Lord God Almighty; Jesus Christ is the perfect one.

If we come across anything contrary to our opinion, we should try and investigate into it instead of castigating it. I am a person that learn from anything or everybody whether they be unbelievers or believers of Christ. The only thing I'm always SENTIMENTAL ABOUT IS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS GRACE AND HIS FINISHED WORKS.

Many are still in bondage because they have refused to learn, they cherish their revelations or knowledge so much and neglecting it even in the light of the pure truth will seems as a big blow to them. These kind of people will rather choose to die in error than accept truth. Or don't you see this as the major cause of different denominations in Christendom?

I have learnt alot from you and others, and I want to encourage others to also develop a humble and a contrite heart that is opened to learning.

May the Lord God Almighty continue to help and comfort us by His Spirit through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Thanks.

God bless.

ediko5:
Firstly, this response is Hippocratic. Learn to be polite when dealing with religious matter especially concerning our Christianity. This matter is a sensitive matter even though i wrote it with few lines of statement.

Truth always appears Hippocratic especially when you are caught in the hook. You brought this sensitive matter online, you displayed the characters of the Pharisees of old, in fact I don't only read few lines of statements alone, I also try to read the author's heart.

ediko5:
So, you are telling me to go ahead and commit all or any of the above mentioned sin while i'm young and probably in my 50s, i'll repent to enter God's kingdom meanwhile i was born into a strong Christian background. Okay nice preaching....

When I read my reply to you, the only advice I sent to you was for you to go read the "Holy Bible to guide you to the answers you seek."

ediko5:
That's to say many cultists, armed robbers, kidnappers who later repented to become Pastor should be arrested by the government? For instance the Coza Pastor, Biodun Fatoyinbo once said he was the Chief priest of the blakk Axeeee confraternity in Unilorin, without doubt he has killed people before and during his position of the chief priest of B.A confra..
What should be done to such a Pastor or even our own EnthronedbyGod who denounced cultism to become a Pastor and also rose to the level of classifying some Pastors as fake and evil.

If their cases of crime is reported and they are found guilty they will definitely pay for their crime.

Have you seen anywhere security personnels pardon people for their crime because they are Christians?

God definitely has a way of helping those Christians who once in their lives were involved in great sins. His thoughts and ways are higher than ours, He is merciful and gracious, but that should not seem as an avenue for us to find pleasure in sin.

NB: I don't waste my phone ink over arguments.

Thanks.

God bless.

ediko5:
My fellow Christians, the issue of repentance after great sins have been one of the major reasons Atheists mock Christianity.

This is not a problem at all. Repentance is the first tenent of Christianity, in fact without it there is no Christianity. If unbelievers mock Christians because of repentance, what do you think they will do if God who claims He love them even to the point of sacrificing Himself on the Cross doesn't/will not/cannot forgive them of their sins completely?

ediko5:
I recently saw one Atheist say "I will kill, rob people and involve in any kind of atrocity possible to become rich and after making wealth through my crimes, i'll repent and turn born-again so i can go to heaven while".

What are the chances that he won't be caught and sentence to jail? What are the chances that He won't be hunted by those he has hurt? God definitely will forgive his sins, these are serious crimes, and in a perfect environment where things work correctly criminals will pay for their crime. Even the Bible told us to obey the rules of the land so that we won't fall into the wrath of those that has sets these laws.

ediko5:
There numerous cases where armed robbers, kidnappers, murderers, warlords later became strong borna-gain Christians BUT after rising to fame through their SINFUL acts.

Anyone that has truly find Christ will definitely neglect their sinful acts and the proceeds of such acts. For more info ask Zacchaeus the tax collector, Peter who forsake his fishing business to follow Christ, Paul who counted everything he has once gained as lose in order to follow Christ and a host of others.

ediko5:
What about the prostitutes, human ritualists and many more. Some of these people already grow up in a Christian background and environment. Some were even part of children Sunday school as they grew up.

I just read on nairaland how a repentant Porn-Star who's now a born-again Christian is preaching to other Porn-stars to stop acting porn, now do you think the Porn Stars will repent when she repented in her 40s after making millions of dollars from the porn industry. That's to say she became born-again after her retirement from porn.

Did Christ came for the righteous or sinners? Why are pained like the Pharisees of Old?

ediko5:
Now, to my question:
Will God really forgive me if i deliberately (with the knowledge of Christ) commit sins like murder, armed robbery, kidnapper, 419 to become rich at the detriments of other people's life and i later declare that i'm born-again while enjoying the wealth i got from my sinful acts.?

God will definitely forgive you. If you know the importance of spiritual growth and experiencing union with Christ, you won't have entertained this thought in your heart.

Do you know what the Israelites experienced when they where in God today and the World tommorow? Research about their experience in the Bible and whatsoever you learnt will guide you to the answer of this question you just asked.

Thanks.

God bless.

As answered below.

budaatum:
Here is a hint from CaveAdullam.

buda buda. Welldone

IgiveLadiesBj:
I'm tempted to marry a German babe...
I'm gonna so disapoint my family ehh

my Father declared a family meeting when I told them I have the intentions of getting married to a German woman. Is once my guy started lamenting o.

Lol.