₦airaland Forum

Efesogie:
You guys say "true facts" and proceed to serve us lies. This is just seek
Yoruba have no history, rather you have a bunch of concocted lies which you repeat endlessly with the hope they would transform into truth.
The truth is Yoruba descend from freed slaves dumped on our shores by the Europeans and from a few local ethnic groups: the Edo, the oyos, and the dahomians.

Efesogie:
All the above is a lie. In 1903 the Oba of Benin was Oba Ovonramwen, he lost a war against Britain six years earlier (1897) and he was in exile in Calabar in a sort of house arrest. His palace, had been burnt down by the British, Benin city (the capital of Benin empire) was in ruins. The British burnt the city down. Why you Yoruba always tell lies to aggrandise yourselves baffles me. Next you should say that all kings of the universe vacated their thrones when they heard a guy with a d.ick on his forehead was summoned to Lagos by his British masters.

chukskafor:
You can get an 8wks old African Grey for at least 40k onwards

nlPoster:
I didn't comment on your post because I assumed you were either in jest or would correct yourself at some point.

nlPoster:
The Portuguese never called Yorubas ku people.

Some Yorubas were referred to as Eku due to their greeting patterns which extensively say aku.

Ku means die.

Eku is a greeting which sounds like you die but it actually means are you enjoying, or enjoy.

TAO11:
Olu317, Yes "Kootu-Ojire is also correct.

But what I often have issues with regarding discourse like this is the oft-repeated dichotomous idea and impression that one must be false because the other is true.

No! Why can't both be true? There isn't one Yoruba language afterall. There is a variety of the Yoruba language. They are called dialects. All legitimate.

"Kaaro-Ojire" is also correct and widely used among diverse Yoruba subgroups. And "KAARO" is not a "bastardization" bro. Elisions and contractions are essential and natural parts of All SPOKEN languages.

The technical Yoruba term in academia is "ÌPAJẸ Ọ̀RỌ̀".

It is perfectly legit Yoruba to SPEAK (or even write) of the "KING's WIFE" as "AYABA".

Cheers!

TAO11:
I thought I should share this interesting piece of historical information on the first time an Ooni of Ife will set foot 'outside' of his palace:

It was in the year 1903 when the then Ooni of Ife, Oba Adelekan Olubuse 1, was invited to Lagos by the then Governor General of the Southern Protectorate, Sir William MacGregor.

The Ooni was invited as a last resort measure to settle an important and fast escalating supremacy feud between certain Yoruba OBAs (I believe the Elepe and the Akarigbo --- I'm not 100% certain at the moment who and who it was) in the Lagos region.

The issue had evaded several resolution attempts by the British Government representatives until the British Government thought it was time that the Ooni himself stepped in.

Now, it must have been a really serious issue to warrant the Ooni to vacate his throne. No Ooni had done that before --- It was a pseudo-sacrilege.

Many sacrifices were offered en-route Lagos and in the whole process of his vacating his revered and imperial throne. The British Government bore all the cost of the sacrifices.

The Ooni quenched the duel as if it never happened, and as if no one ever attempted to solve the issue.

The most interesting aspect of all these, for me, is as follows:

As soon as the news reached all the kings in Southern Nigeria (from Warri, through Asaba, and down to the Yoruba interior --- including the Oba of Benin, the Alaafin of Oyo, and the Elékò) that the Ooni vacated his palace; they independently left their thrones and lived outside of their palace walls until the news reached them that the Ooni was back in Ife.

As if they informed each other, they considered it sacrilegious to continue residing in their respective palaces while the Ooni had vacated his (although temporarily and for good cause).


All these information is well documented in more details in the Government Gazette for the Colony of Lagos published on Saturday, February 28, 1903.

Also attached below is a video interview of the 'yesterday' Ooni of Ife, Oba Okunade Sijuwade Olubuse II which speaks to the same issues:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDvDXkkXUMY&t=603s

Olu317:
Na wa oooo! Omo Kaaro O jire has become Kootu ojire? What dialect is that?

macof:
I have suspected this for a few years now but would still do some research on it to get some assurance for this theory. Or do you have some more information on this?

Because Okanbi is not known in Ife but seems to be a popular name in Oyo

y3mi:
Na wa OK!

No be small thing.

The content of this thread, just as hundred like it on this forum, is terribly uninformed and therefore misleading.

I am not in the mood to start typing lengthy arguments to debunk many of the distortions stated here.

Let me summon a historical daemon; macof s_b_gos

You shouldn't be dissapointed, you should be discomfitted! A true scholar who genuinely seeks to understand, and share by discuss an opinion about the protology of their ancestral history should know better than to stay clear off external sources whose view are generally bias and demeaning and set to out to debase the most ancient and surviving civilization of the human race: the Yoruba Karøójirés'. The more reason one must lean on their vast oracular compendium of all human history, culture, language, science, philosophy, technology etc: Ifá.


@bolded:

Same people who for a long time coming have been and are still heavily influenced by the Judeo-Islamic cosmogony molded from Abrahamic mytheology and lecturers whose interpretations reeks of bias traced to their Islamic and Christian leanings. So I dare say Fvck 'em both.

Ifá remains the only true source to learn, confirm, verify the authenticity of claims, stated or written by anyone. And only from the real Babalawos not from any of the many fake and religion affected ones who are inclined to dilute their explanations with mentioning of words, terms, places associated with Christianity and Islam just to appeal to their clients, students or pupils.

Olu317:
Oh, you want me to put diacritic on the yoruba name? Smiles. Then, once it is on YouTube,it is the truth to you about the meaning of Yoruba? Lol . I rest my case.

chukskafor:
Hope you know the norms involved in parrots keeping as pet, once they accept you as a partner, no any other person, not even a family member is allowed to pet it
And when they are within your proximity, they object to any close contact between you and any other person

Olu317:
Despite your intention is promote some information on Yoruba greatness,there are many flaws in your post. Take for instance, Ogun lakaye is about your literary interpretation as one who know how to read but ; Ogun la ka aiye is; war lord that shine forth in life.

Surfondsystems:
D.M me. I can get one for you.

lx3as:
Ọwọ is very ancient than Bini; most cultures/religions you get in Bini today were from Ọwọ and Ugbo(Ilaje). Ugodomigodo was quite different from present Bini. Maybe you need to see Ọbalùfọ̀n with lots of beats...

Those arguing on Oduduwa or Okanbi being Ogun; There were Original Ogun, Oduduwa, Sango, Oranmiyan. However, many great people beared these names after them; people are still bearing Ogun, etc. till today. Okanbi as Ogun or Sango as Oyo king were different from the first Ogun or Sango, Obatala's contemporaries

gregyboy:
My friend am not making a mistake a quick goggke search will stoo this embarrassment you kept yourself....

gregyboy:
I thank God the op had admitted some of the fact the benin people lay claims on

Oduduwa falling from the sky have always been debated by the benin people the Benin with a well documented history have always mainted oduduwa was not a sky diver or a Wonderer from Mecca but a banished Prince from benin....

The world oba was madd popular by the benins to the yorubas as stated by the o.p since all kings had their original title
So i wonder why they will take oba from obatala to represent king why didn't just take the full name fo represent king as a general term for king....i thank the o.p for clearing that fact

Olowo of owo havinv the oldest palace in yorubaland also has its monarchy from benins ,

Oba kha to kpere

Ise!!!!

SEGLIZ:
if you want the the truth meet an ifa priest to get your facts (someone like Yemi Elebunibon, Peter Fatomilola, etc), any Yoruba lecturer in any institution of learning.
I'm still convinced of what I know through the custodian of Yoruba culture and ife man even from the palace would claim right even to none claimable.

SEGLIZ:
op a well done job but from number 8 down to 10 are not in tandem with Yoruba genealogy.
obatala was no contemporary of oduduwa likewise ogun, obatala and ogun were both contemporaries for the both existed long even before oduduwa. obatala and ogun were both deities being worshipped before oduduwa. okanbi is not same as ogun.

MikeBetty:
I Comment My Reserve Until After Some Weeks Without Response Or Counter Thread.

Miner13:
pls someone should and tell me,is the poster saying yoruba owns the east

SLAP44:
I love yoruba people and I am igbo.

spyglaxx:
Am married to one. She is the best thing around.

Calm, collected, she always seeks my opinion b/4 anything. She is teachable. Its like a perfect marriage shah. Two years older. But her beauty is always making do iyaah.


If you want to marry her take her for tvs scan to determine her womb condition against pre-menopause changes.

theButterfly:
37 - 35 = 2.

BareFacedLies:
If she is not up to 38 years then you should not be bothered about menopause at this stage.

Mature women do not come with the baggage and stress of much younger ladies

chigoizie7:
Dating them is not a problem, can we marry them?

Roroapple:
Don't ever and ever try it they are only good for dating once u get married bro it will be a different story, I will not say more than that