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Christianity EtcRe: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by chibjohn(m): 10:56am On Jul 26, 2020
Webmannigeria:
Rev 21:8 Begs to differ....There's no annihilation for the devil and his angels and the unbelievers......Just like there's everlasting Joy in the presence of God for eternity, so is everlasting doom and punishment for the devil, his angels and the unbelivers in the burning lake of fire FOREVER which is the second health.......
Revelation 21:8, KJV: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
Where in this passage was it stated that people will burn for eternity in hell without dieing? I think you misunderstood what "everlasting doom and punishment" means. Death in the Bible means total separation from God. It is not a life of suffering for eternity in hell. The everlasting there doesn't in anyway mean that the suffering will continue till eternity rather it potrays the irreversible nature of the second death. The first death like people die today is seen in the Bible as sleep and not a permanent one as all the dead will rise when Christ comes. The second death is the permanent and irreversible death.
Christianity EtcRe: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by chibjohn(m): 10:31am On Jul 26, 2020
Webmannigeria:
HIS LOVE Is forever and if you're not a partaker of HIS love and HIS eternal presence then you have chosen satan and his eternal doom..that's simply. Accept HIS love rather than preach false gospel
His love is forever I agree. Satan will be destroyed with sinners and all his angels. It's about total annihilation that leads to inexistence. Read John 3:16. You either have everlasting life or you perish(totally destroyed). There is no everlasting life of suffering in hell. That is heresy and false gospel.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Were Left Behind On Rapture Day, Would You Accept 666 Mark Of The Beast? by chibjohn(m): 10:26am On Jul 26, 2020
Christ coming will be glorious and all eyes will see him. There won't be any secret rapture to heaven. Nothing in the Bible points to that.
Christianity EtcRe: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by chibjohn(m): 10:23am On Jul 26, 2020
Original Bible transcripts in aramaic and Hebrew did not have the world hell. Hell was an erroneous addition to translations of the Bible that came about by interpreting four different words(Gehenna, shades, Hades and Sheol) that mean different things as one word.
How can people think that a loving God will punish people for eternity for sins they commited during their short life span on earth. That is wickedness and contradicts everything about the loving nature of God. I will never serve such a God. The almighty God whom I serve isn't that wicked.
You either inherit eternity when Christ comes the second time or you get totally destroyed. There is nothing like spending eternity in a burning fire without dieing.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 10:08am On Jul 26, 2020
Masonkaycares:
As a good student, you should be able to know that God didn't actually intend for the 7th day to be used as a day for him to be worshipped. He actually rested on the 7th day after completing all creation and He saw it was perfect. The seventh day came into context when God was giving the 10 commandment as a day no one was expected to work. All were advised to stay indoors (if am not mistaken Exodus 20 verse 9 downwards) But the Israelites saw that this day being a day of the lord should be used to worship him.

But after Jesus Christ ressurection the day of worship automatically change (not to the Jews) but the followers of Christ. Although the Jews always observed the Sabbath day based on the fact that they did not believe in Christ They still continued to worship on the Sabbath day but a after the early Christians , the new church really emphasized on the first day of the week. (Gotta do a research on this)
You really need to do a research on how the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday. It was not immediately after Christ's resurrection as people often say. Read about the convertion to Christianity of Pagan Rome and Constantine the great. You will understand that Sunday worship has more to do with Idol worship than Christianity. I don't want to be the one to tell you. You will believe it if you read it yourself. Thank God for the internet.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 10:03am On Jul 26, 2020
phemmyfour:
Well, that's your old testament definition of Sabbath. Jesus Christ has already redefined Sabbath
Please quote the Bible passage where Jesus redefined the Sabbath. I want to learn.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 9:58am On Jul 26, 2020
Openbusiness4:
So an eternal God that was an eternal spirit being at the Creation of the world, rested in 24 hours and continued working on the next day bah? Smh, children, children, children grin
So you don't believe he rested on the seventh day as written in the Bible?
God rested on the seventh day to buttress the importance of the Sabbath. He took the human nature in that act and that doesn't invalidate his eternal nature. Remember that Christ took the human nature to pay for our sins.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 9:53am On Jul 26, 2020
wunmi590:
When God created the world, He rested on the seventh day. When God gave the ten commandments to Israel, He commanded Israel to rest on the seventh day as well. In Exodus 20:11 the reason given for that is that God rested on the seventh day from His creation work. In Deuteronomy 5, we find the second version of the ten commandments. The reason that God gives to rest on the Sabbath is to remember that the Lord delivered Israel from Egypt (Deuteronomy 5:15).

Sabbath law in the New Testament
So the Sabbath given by God in the Old Testament is the seventh day. It started with sunset on Friday and ended with sunset on Saturday. That is the Sabbath that the Jews are still celebrating.

How is the situation in the New Testament? In the New Testament we read that we are not under the law, but under grace (Romans 6:14). Christians do not have to submit to the ceremonial law anymore. The New Testament shows in several ways that the Sabbath law does not apply to Christians:

All other nine commandments are repeated in the New Testament, but the Sabbath commandment is not repeated.
Paul never wrote to the gentile churches he planted that they had to keep the Sabbath. Since the Sabbath was not part of their culture, that certainly would have been necessary if Paul had been of the opinion that they had to keep a Sabbath rest.
The churches in the New Testament met on Sundays, not on the Sabbath, like the Jewish synagogues.
Paul explicitly teaches that the Sabbath is just a shadow of things to come, but that the reality is found in Jesus. He gives us the heavenly rest. Therefore Paul forbids us to judge other people on the basis of whether or not they observe a Sabbath (Colossians 2:16-17).
The Lord’s day
The Jews met on the Sabbath. Christians started meeting on Sundays (see Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2). They did that because Jesus was risen from the dead on a Sunday. And appeared to them at least on the first and second Sunday after He was risen (John 20:19,26). Almost immediately the Sunday was called ‘the Lord’s day’ (Revelation 1:10).

So it is clear that Christians do not need to keep the Sabbath on Friday and Saturday. It is also clear that the church, following Jesus’ lead, from the beginning had its main meetings on Sunday. This does not mean that the Sabbath laws were transferred to the Sunday. We are under grace, not under the law.

That the Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus, and that we therefore do not painstakingly have to follow the Old Testament Sabbath laws, is great news. But it would not be wise if we would use that to say we can now work each and every day. That the Lord rested on the seventh day of His creation work still is a powerful lesson for us. Rest is a blessing that we receive from the Lord. That the Sabbath law is fulfilled in Jesus probably means we should enjoy rest more, not less than in the Old Testament; that we should focus on God longer, not shorter than in the Old Testament.

Jesus’ fulfillment
While we do not need to be afraid that we are sinning if we work on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, one great way to honor Jesus’ fulfillment of the Sabbath law is to set the Sunday as much apart as possible to go to church, to meet Christian brothers and sisters, and to focus on God through prayer, Bible reading and the reading of Christian books.
PLEASE READ THIS WITH YOUR BIBLE CLOSE BY AND AN OPEN MIND.

Many people, however, think that Paul, the other apostles and the early Church changed the Sabbath day. But what does the record of the New Testament really say?

“Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good” (Romanos 7:12).

We have seen that Jesus Christ did not change God’s Sabbath day. On the contrary, throughout His ministry He showed the true purpose and intent of the Sabbath. Jesus often showed that the Sabbath, and particularly His teachings and actions on that day, prefigured the coming messianic age—the time of the Kingdom of God—as one of healing, freedom and restoration for all humanity.

Jesus was a Sabbath-keeper. At the time of His death, His closest followers clearly observed the Sabbath, waiting until it was past to prepare His body for burial (Mateo 28:1; Marcos 16:1-2; Lucas 23:56; Lucas 24:1). Fifty days from Christ’s resurrection, many gathered for the Day of Pentecost, one of God’s seven annual Sabbaths or feasts observed in addition to the weekly Sabbath (Leviticus 23), and it was on that day that the New Testament Church was founded by the coming of the Holy Spirit (Hechos de los Apóstoles 2:1-4).

The Bible shows no evidence of any change at Christ’s death and resurrection concerning God’s Sabbaths. We see only a continuation of Christ’s followers observing them just as He had done—despite the assertions of some to the contrary.

Did Paul abolish the Sabbath?
If the Sabbath, or any part of God’s law, was abolished or changed in the early New Testament Church, we should find clear evidence of such a dramatic shift in the New Testament writings. After all, the books of the New Testament were written in the first century over a period of decades ending in the 90s, more than 60 years after Jesus’ death and resurrection.

Many who argue that the Sabbath was abolished in the New Testament point to the apostle Paul’s writings to justify their view. But is this opinion correct? They commonly cite three passages to support that claim—Romanos 14:5-6, Colosenses 2:16-17 and Gálatas 4:9-10.

To properly understand these passages we must look at each in context, both in the immediate context of what is being discussed and in the larger social and historical context influencing the author and his audience at the time. We must also be careful not to read our preconceived notions into the text. With that in mind, let’s examine these passages and see if Paul indeed annulled or abolished Sabbath observance in his writings.

First, let’s consider Paul’s own statements about God’s law. More than 25 years after the death of Jesus Christ, he wrote in Romanos 7:12, “Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.” In Romanos 2:13 he stated, “For not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified.” In Romanos 7:22 he said, “For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.”

Many assume that once we have faith in Jesus Christ, we have no more need to keep the law. Paul himself addressed this concept in Romanos 3:31: “Do we then make void [Greek katargeo, meaning ‘destroy’ or ‘abolish’] the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish [Greek histemi, meaning ‘erect’ or ‘make to stand’] the law.” Faith does not abolish the law, said Paul; it establishes and upholds it.

In Acts 24 he defended himself before the Roman governor Felix against charges of dissension and sedition brought by Jewish religious leaders. Replying to the accusations against him, he said, “I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets” (Hechos de los Apóstoles 24:14).

Two years later he again defended himself against such accusations, this time before another Roman governor, Festus. “Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I offended in anything at all,” he responded to the charges against him (Hechos de los Apóstoles 25:cool.

Here, some 25 to 30 years after Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection, Paul plainly said he believed “all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets” (terms used for the books of the Old Testament) and had done nothing against the law!

In light of these clear statements, we should expect to find equally clear instructions regarding abolition of the Sabbath, if that had been Paul’s understanding and intent. But do we?

Are all days of worship alike?
In Romanos 14:5-6, Paul wrote: “One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.”

From this statement, it could appear to some that Paul is saying that whatever day one chooses to rest and worship is irrelevant so long as one is “fully convinced in his own mind” and “observes it to the Lord.” Does this mean that the Sabbath is no different from any other day or that we are free to choose whatever day we wish to observe?

Some 25 to 30 years after Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection, Paul plainly said he believed “all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets” (terms used for the books of the Old Testament) and had done nothing against the law!

To come to that conclusion, one must read it into the verse, because the Sabbath is nowhere mentioned here. In fact, the word Sabbath or references to Sabbath-keeping are not found anywhere in the book of Romans. The reference here is simply to “days,” not the Sabbath or any other days of rest and worship commanded by God.

Keep in mind that Paul, earlier in this same epistle, had written that “the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good,” that “the doers of the law will be justified,” and that he found “delight in the law of God” (Romanos 7:12; Romanos 2:13; Romanos 7:22). If he were saying in Romans 14 that Sabbath observance is irrelevant, such an assertion would be completely inconsistent with his other clear statements in this same letter.....
https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/sunset-to-sunset-gods-sabbath-rest/was-the-sabbath-changed-in-the-new-testament
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m): 9:27am On Jul 26, 2020
Openbusiness4:
My understanding of it, is that "true Sabbath" = eternal rest. That is to say spending your eternity with God is your real Sabbath Day. God rested on the "7th day" but the 7th day is actually not a "day", it is eternity
Where did you get this understanding from? This isn't true. The Sabbath is the literal seventh day one. Don't confuse it with eternity.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Understanding Of Sabbath? by chibjohn(m):
Sabbath is Saturday. The seventh day of the week. It is a day we shouldn't do any work but only those that please God. It was instituted from the beginning of time after creation. It is the only day that God blessed and hallowed. Jesus went to the synagogue every Sabbath while he was here. Jesus also said he didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfil it. If Christ went to the synagogue every Sabbath and we are Christians who should follow his footsteps, why do we all go to church on a Sunday? God doesn't change neither does any of his laws. He is the same today, tomorrow and forever more. Let us awake and start keeping the true Sabbath - Saturday.
AutosRe: I Need Clean EOD FOR SALE by chibjohn(m): 7:39am On Jul 02, 2020
BigTableShaker:
Its all about maintenance but if you check the net about complains of those EODs, 90% said transmission is fragile.
You are wrong. Do your research very well. It's only the 2003 model that had transmission issue. 90% is even an over exaggeration of the problem.
AutosRe: I Need Clean EOD FOR SALE by chibjohn(m): 6:02am On Jul 02, 2020
BigTableShaker:
I have a sleek baby (2006 model) but its worth 800k.
You can get cheaper deals on Jiji but you will need a very good mech to land you a good deal.
Meanwhile, whatever model you buy don't buy 02-05 models because of their fragile gear/transmission and boring trim, get the 06/07 version; they're the real deal, most peeps call em "Discussion Continue" DC!!
Stop saying what you don't know. I have been using 2005 model going to 3 years now with no gear/transmission issue at all.
PoliticsRe: Umahi Completes 5th Flyover In Ebonyi, 4 Others In Progress (Photos) by chibjohn(m): 8:55am On Jun 29, 2020
Abia state can't complete just one in 5 years. Abia my state is in need of deliverance from devilish politicians.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chibjohn(m): 7:15pm On Jun 16, 2020
onegentleguy:
I have since given my views on DANGOTE CEMENT.
...Pls kindly follow up with the post and article above.
Worthy of note is that a few of the points(on pricing) highlighted in the article has already played out. ...while some others are yet to play out.

Regards
A very detailed analysis. Keep up the good work. You are a good man. Please minimise the use of acronyms so that students like us can understand your write ups better.
Car TalkRe: Toyota Corolla Vs Lexus ES 330 by chibjohn(m): 7:58pm On Jun 07, 2020
opera1:
Thanks, but which one can u recommend for a starter[1st car]?
These two cars shouldn't be compared at all. They were not made with the same kind of people in mind.
Lexus ES is a better car to drive than that bland Corolla. Lexus is a luxury brand and so more expensive to maintain. Corollas have 1.8l 4 cylinder inline engines while Lexus ES has 3.0L/3.3L V6 engine. So Corollas are more fuel efficient than Lexus ES.They are both rugged cars. Corolla has a simple design so every dick and Tom can work on it. There are also a good number of Lexus techs in Nigeria.
No one can tell you the better one for you without knowing your income. If your finances are tight, you may consider Corolla though the Lexus is a better car.
For me and my family, we hate that car called Corolla and will most likely never buy it with our money.
FamilyRe: My Husband Wants To Know Everything About My Finances. by chibjohn(m): 2:53pm On Jun 06, 2020
UzorChinonso:
Good day Nairalanders, I have been married for just a year now and it has not been easy here! My Husband wants to know every thing about my finance. He has disturbed me to know how much is my salary worth of.

I have always denied him of the fact, what I know is that I used my money to refurbish our flat, got some new things to change the outlook of the place....

But I am not really finding it funny any longer. As we speak, he collected my ATM card since last two weeks, said I must tell him the pin or I should forget having it back. I went to my bank, told them that I lost the card and they changed it for me last Friday and he collected it again said it's either I tell him the pin or he will do something funny ...

I don't know what funny thing he's gonna do but I am worried! Pls is this how marriage is?
He claims to own me and own my salary! Is it fair? This marriage is too early instead I would have quit and I am pregnant at the moment!
What do I do? I don't want anybody to know anything about my finances including him till I have my baby whom my spirit accepted that I should make my next of kin.

What do I do ?
You started your marriage on a wrong foundation. There shouldn't be any secret between you two. Tell your husband how much you earn. It's no big deal. If you find it so difficult to do so, you shouldn't be married to him in the first place. He doesn't have legal right to your pin nor money. But as a supportive wife, you should help out in the house.
Nairaland GeneralRe: What Is The Weirdest Thing You Have Done To Survive? by chibjohn(m): 9:14pm On Jun 05, 2020
Those that attended UNN will know that Firstbank is close to CEC. Around 2010, CEC was the official school guest house where ceremonies including weddings are held. I hope it's still so. As a student in UNN then, I was so broke and hopeless one Saturday with no Kobo in my pocket and account. Around 3pm that day, I decided to check my account balance at the firstbank ATM to know if someone has paid in money for me though I wasn't really expecting money from anyone. I was just hoping for miracle. I had no knowledge that a wedding reception was going on at CEC. As I was keying in my ATM pin into the machine, I heard the MC call for prayers to start sharing food and refreshments. Hallelujah! My lunch and dinner combined is about to be served. No money had entered my account after checking but an opportunity to eat free food was provided. I walked in majestically into the wedding venue and sat down at a corner. The ushers were already sharing food which got to me. I ate and drank to my satisfaction. I didn't know who was wedding nor was I invited by anybody. It was the holy spirit that invited me to go and eat my lunch and dinner combined that day. After eating, I stood up and went to my house to sleep. God works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform. I wish I know or have the contact of the couple that wedded that day, I will just call to thank them for saving a life.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chibjohn(m): 12:13pm On May 26, 2020
onegentleguy:
Analysis:
Over 97 pages to read from.
Approx 53% of it mostly the result of e-fighting, unnecessary debates and prank playing.
Near 22% the result of repeated questioning.
While just less 26% can be considered useful input.

Thanks to the likes of @ RabbiDoracle, Rebakah, meshpips, Pa Emma, mcy56, TLAX, Sayisanya, deyalutochukwu, Ositadinma and all those who contributed to that 26%.
Chai... my men were right about this place !!

...it is well.
It's nice to have you back. I tried reaching out to you. Sent you a WhatsApp message as well as SMS. Tried calling too but couldn't get through. It's good to know you are ok.
PoliticsRe: People Celebrate Orji Kalu's Supreme Court Victory In Abia (Photos) by chibjohn(m): 4:32pm On May 08, 2020
Aarenaija:
That's why Nigeria can not progress. As long as the subject is our 'son" he can never do wrong.
What a shame of the lost of our values......
Don't mind some idiots. I am from Abia state. I can tell you that OUK deserve death sentence. I can never support a thief.
PoliticsRe: People Celebrate Orji Kalu's Supreme Court Victory In Abia (Photos) by chibjohn(m): 4:31pm On May 08, 2020
ReachRich:
OUK has been acquitted. He is now resting in his house while entertaining friends & well wishers while u are here wishing him death
Please just show me where in the judgement that it is was stated that he was acquitted or shut the Bleep up. It's people like you that support thieves that are the problem of this nation.
PoliticsRe: People Celebrate Orji Kalu's Supreme Court Victory In Abia (Photos) by chibjohn(m): 3:34pm On May 08, 2020
Idiots celebrating rubbish. The supreme court never acquicted OUK. It was just legal technicalities. He is going back to jail after re-trial. I am from Abia and know first hand what Orji did in the state. That guy deserves death by hanging.
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Dangote Became A Billionaire Because FG Gave Him Monopoly by chibjohn(m): 3:16pm On May 01, 2020
MythMan147:
will you shut up impostor,WERE NOT BOTH PEACE AIRLINE AND INNOSON VEHICLE ASSEMBLY,GIVEN MONOPOLY IN THEIR RESPECTIVE SECTORS BY JONATHAN GOVERNMENT?JEALOUSY!!!
You need to go back to school. No insult intended. Just a friendly advice. At least to understand the meaning of monopoly.
CrimeRe: Residents Beat IBEDC Staff For Trying To Disconnect Their Light. by chibjohn(m): 10:40pm On Apr 29, 2020
Nigeria doesn't have constant power supply partly because the populace are not ready to pay for such. Imagine this nonsense. Those boys should all be arrested and dealt with.
PoliticsRe: Gas Shortage Stalls 23,081MW, Despite Gencos N200bn Fund by chibjohn(m): 3:34pm On Apr 27, 2020
Uneducated reporter. When I saw 23,000MW I was like bawo? Is it in this same industry I work in. We don't even presently have the capacity to generate 20,000MW if gas is made available let alone approx 23000MW. You don't just add different days power generation shortfalls and say that's what was lost. Power is instantaneous. You can only do that if you convert to energy.
SportsRe: Daniel Amokachi: I Slept At T.B Joshua’s Church For Weeks, Got No Miracle by chibjohn(m): 7:43pm On Apr 25, 2020
People like me know that Baba TB is nothing but scam. Oya his followers start your insults.
CrimeRe: IBEDC Staff In Ogun Beaten For Distributing Electricity Bill (Disturbing Pics) by chibjohn(m):
The idiots that beat him should be arrested and dealt with. He is just doing his job. Money is spent on generating and transmitting the few hours of electricity that you enjoy and you should pay for it. He wasn't even disconnecting peoples' homes, just distributing bills. Majority of Nigerians are educated illiterates, animals and idiots. You want 24hrs electricity but not ready to pay for it.
HealthRe: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by chibjohn(m): 8:52pm On Apr 23, 2020
Yes o. He is a family friend that lived and died in New York from covid-19. A man around 70 years. On Monday 13th April, my dad called to tell me he died of covid-19 in New York. All the memories of him is ever fresh on my mind. This is someone that we visit each other whenever he is in Nigeria. Corona Virus is real. Protect yourself.
TravelRe: Sinkhole Appears In The Middle Of A Road In Ogbor Hill, Aba, After Heavy Rain by chibjohn(m): 9:33pm On Apr 19, 2020
Abia state government doesn't use qualified contractors for road projects
HealthRe: White Tongue After Unprotected Sex: Please Doctors In The House I Need Your Help by chibjohn(m): 8:45am On Apr 15, 2020
Shellsploit:
Amazing effect of excess masturbation!
No 3,4,5 are caused by the above mentioned.
One more thing, how watery is your ejaculation sef sad














Lets wait and hear from the elders.
Lie
Christianity EtcRe: Is 3 O'Clock The Most Effective Hour To Pray?? by chibjohn(m): 9:16pm On Apr 12, 2020
Danielkupiejo:
Time does sir I av experienced it b4 okay
You misinterpreted your experience.
Christianity EtcRe: Is 3 O'Clock The Most Effective Hour To Pray?? by chibjohn(m): 8:09am On Apr 12, 2020
You can pray anytime. If your heart is pure and your prayer genuine, you can do it any time of the day. Time doesn't make a prayer more effective.

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