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Matheusmartin:LoL, we can all cut him some slack now can't we ![]() |
Kobojunkie:You wouldn't understand--but of course ![]() If physics says the earth is not the center of the universe when scripture says so, who are we to argue against the almighty lorde? If scripture says a "a second light" was created to shine by night when infact nothing I the universe exists for that function, we keep shut right? I cannot believe you said this. |
Kobojunkie:Have you heard of ancient Sumerians? They predate the old covenant itself. Abraham and Melchidezek are from that era. You want check that out. |
Kobojunkie:You wouldn't be asking these if you stop to think the prophets, disciples etc weren't Christians while today's christians reject these same religions. Please try to understand what I just wrote. |
Kobojunkie:See, you are a Christian. Your sources are restricted hence your capacity to explore the deeper things of God. You may not be in position to assimilate certain truths considering your position on where it must come from. If you must know, they Holy Spirit bypasses any with such mentality. It does not force itself to find believers. One must be ready and able to receive... |
Kobojunkie:Let's bring it home to you: All the laws of nature/creation which physics discovered are the laws of God. That the bible didn't capture that says why it's a very limited compendium of Truth hence we do not study it to become physicists and biologists (who are all studying the laws of God). The physics idea you are trying to associate with Karma is the Law that stipulates that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, is it not? What is wrong with this is that the physics law state that the reaction to said action would apply in an opposite direction. So for example if good/positive energy is applied in one direction, bad/negativity is the reward that follows it from the opposite direction. Is that really the idea behind your law of Karma?In everyday words: "Do not be deceived (a very big DO NOT BE), whatever a man sows, that shall he reap". Einstein merely found out about this law and Christened it 'The Law of Relativity' which says there cannot be smoke without fire. Buddhists and Hindus called it the Law of Karma. This law would exists whether Einstein, Jesus, Budhists etc mention it or not. Gerrit? There are hundreds of such laws mentioned and not mentioned in your scripture. 3. Again, you mistake your thoughts with that which is in the bible. Jesus Christ certainly did not teach anything remotely close to your Karmic Laws.There you go. "Remotely"? 4. Here we go again, trying to digest that which you didn't pay close attention to. The entire idea behinh the scriptural teaching that concerns 'reaping what you sow' has to do with Sin and God. Those who sow wickedness while here on earth - they may prosper on earth aa they do so - will be rewarded by God with punishment He has for the wicked in the here after. And those who sow obedience and good works while here on earth - though many of of suffer for it while here on earth- will be rewarded afterwards with good, this by God.Sowing= Action, Causation Reaping= Reaction, Effect. Gerrit? It has everything to do with God's Law/Contract with men, and sin as defined within said Contract. God God indeed not a wrath-filled entity as portrayed by many religious bigots out there but God is a faithful God and He sticks to the details of His Contract with you just as He expects us to do the same.."Contract", nothing like that beyond the self-executing and sustaining law of Karma. |
Kobojunkie:This is very hilarious considering... ![]() |
Kobojunkie:I gave you a truth of God in another language and you wouldn't have it because it's not "scriptural" ![]() What if you're presented with the Masters who groomed Jesus, the Charges words he sung to I create his vibration, the groups he belonged to before "starting his ministry", I am sure you would bind and cast me ![]() |
Kobojunkie:When I mention the Holy Spirit, I mean the very one presented in the Christian religion. Other call it Logos, the Word,we call it ECK in ECKANKAR. Note the God in Christianity is not what we look up to in ECKANKAR. I need to mention this so you do not assume I am faking an affinity to gain acceptance. No need to argue. Like Kumuyi, we are all work in progress and some doctrines, beliefs and wild assumptions rounded up as "Scripture" will be refuted by unmistakable reality and events to happen soon. |
Kobojunkie:It will interest you that the teachings of Jesus if presented today in their original form, many Christians would look for another religion. |
Kobojunkie:Like I said, there is God and there is God. They made laws and men also made laws put into 'scripture' 2. [Quote] Your Karmic laws have little to nothing to do with God's Law and Covenant contained in the Bible and sp mean little or nothing to those who worship Him. And your description of sin and forgiveness does not align with God's Truth as expressed in scripture either. This is very funny statement to make indeed. This is caused by a syndrome found in people who are bent on going by the Letters ignoring the spirit of it.Since you reap what you sow, no one sins against God. God takes no offence at all lol. You only 'sin' against yourself. A lie being touted by religion is that God (the supreme one) gets angry or may encounter sadness, regret and other negative or low emotions and states. That's coming from a lot of ignorance. |
Kobojunkie:1: Elementary thinking like not wearing earrings because some people in the distant past used it to create a golden calf. 2 and 3: Several doctrines needs to go and will in the coming times. The laws changed sort of or were summed up into "Live they neighbor as thyself". The ten where done away with even as the bible puts it Christianity is based on action of some God as relates to Jews and Gentiles. When will Christians realize that before these guys, several generations of Hans had existed and related to God before them? What of the Mayans and Red Indians of the Americas? Do you now see the limit of the scope? As if all you have there is a totality and God didn't do anything with Africans and the rest. |
Kobojunkie:Well, we like to think God (The supreme one), Holy Spirit is or are aligned to a particular religion, even elementary indicators disputes that assumption. |
LoL, I think it's cos Nigerians read meaning into people asking them for a thing, time or place. There was a conspiracy that ritualists or con men use that trick. |
Kobojunkie:I am tempted to tell you there is no such thing as Sin, but who is to bell the cat? We are ruled by a more stricter or Just law. The law of Karma or what physicists call Cause and Effect. It returns to you whatever you do good or bad. This differs from Sin where you can make a plea or perform an oral ritual and its gone. That is a whole setup! It MUST be paid in cash and kind and as invested. Even death does clean this off. The person is sent back in a fresh body to enjoy the music good or bad. Even from human (carnal) point of view Sin and forgiveness is injustice. |
Kobojunkie:One may not be allowed to go to detail on the state of consciousness of people. By the fruits however, you may see it. The constant change says he is growing and also allowing his people to grow. Consider other climes where the leadership discover the origin of certain doctrines for instance not to be true but cannot let their people know this for fear of condemnation by their members? That's worse. The Catholic church for instance has tones of facts about Christianity/Islam today which if released, Apocalypse! Don't fall for the temptation of thinking God's words do not change. The Isrealites are not Nigerians and Nigerians are not Israelites or Jews no matter the volume of faith used. In fact, there is no such thing as a generic God's word. It is always unique as per biometrics. You now see why l said he be commended (as a matter of saying)? |
1 Kobojunkie:What the church calls "Holy Spirit" (HS) is the fabric that enables and sustains creation or manifestation. If reality is a painting, The HS is the canvas. The cosmology is like this: The HS emanates from a central source which humans label 'God'. This is equal to Divine Love (Love without strings attached) By "God", I am not talking about the ones that "made men in their image" who hard favourite tribes and so on. I mean the Supreme Being. For the Created Worlds to become, this HS forks into two primal streams of Positive and Negative forces and at the same time steps down the quality and immensity of this power. This gave birth to the world's of duality or creation where everything is made possible by its opposite. A recursion of it this is in Electricity with its Positive and Negative poles Male/female, Up/down, Mountain/valley. None can exist in without the other as far as the lower worlds are concerned. All thanks to this twinity of the HS at a particular point of issuance from the source. From this two primal forces is everything made and sustained. Think it like the clay...If something of coarse nature is to be created or more appropriately said: Manifested, this force would have to be stepped down in vibration and a human would see, touch and feel it. Does this sounds like the HS is Atom? Yes it is, just in a lower state. Physicists have established that the forces that brings about the existence of an atom or matter is non-local, meaning it is not in our space-time. Quantum Physics. You may ask then that how about miracles and so on where people experience the HS and so on. This force actually is Consciousness itself and it is God stepped down. Notice how nature makes beautiful things on earth which are child's play compared to those found in other planets and dimensions. It is (the) 'Information' that morphs into 'presentation' templates... Experiencers may view the HS in its higher or purer form and not be able to put it in words. Mozart experienced the HS as music (sound) and wrote his symphonies which sounded great even though not presented exactly. Healing is merely the reformation into original vibration of anything while disease is the opposite. The goal is to contact this force at its higher manifestations which is seen as light or heard as sound. Light and sound are the foundation fabric of atom, Matter, energy, etc so to speak. It is the seed of genius and much much more. Intelligence, Information, Light, electricity, lightning etc are tributaries of the HS which is proportional to what we call Love--Divine Love. So yes, even a smoker and prostitutes cannot exist without it. Sin is a different story entirely. 2. So what you are here insinuating is that everything is Holy,this since you claim the Holy Spirit is in everything - the Holy Spirit according to scripture only lives in that which is Holy/Perfect, in direct compliance with God's Law and blueprint?Holiness is an aftermath of the presence of the Holy Spirit. The people who presented the Bible made it seem like its abstinence from certain actions (blamelessness) makes one Holy. This is partially true. The HS purifies the mind making someone be of high moral and spiritual standards even without religion. Love is the shortcut. In a human body, it exists when that person harbours a loving heart and though. In another dimension, Thought IS a thing AND is the action of the Holy spirit in a higher form. It descends like a rod of light from the top of the head down and back up. Anger, worry, frustration and Fear blocks this flow usually in the throat and other parts. The higher the voltage (an actual voltage) of the HS a person can carry, the Holier they are. Absolutely nothing to do with the religion of the person, only the amount of Love they can give and receive. Love then is indeed the master key. This may not sound convincing because people enjoy their little acts of mortification , restrictiveness, abstinence. It gives them the feeling of working hard for and to impress this "God". The satisfaction from these practice is merely a placebo effect. If you do anything with unattached love (without strings), that is coming out 'Good'. |
MaxInDHouse:I would not say he failed. On the Holy Spirit being or not being with Kumuyi's institution, I would beg to differ on that. As a student of the Holy Spirit myself, you find there is no venture that is not enabled by whatever the church calls "Holy Spirit" no matter how crude or degenerate. Yes! Its in everything. The difference is in the vibrations. I could suggest you look into other fields of Physics. Physicist are gaining more ground on the subject of the Holy spirit though under different nomenclature. |
sexy74:You see in every dispensation, there are people who have wild thoughts, imagination and perception. Not all where able to form a movement out of that, Kumuyi though successfully did. At the time he formed his wild doctrines, he was at a stage in his spiritual growth (just as we all are). Like everything that grows, it must experience change and its why I give kudos to him for responding to change unlike you find in other rigid outdated religions and doctrines. Look at the TV set of the 90s compared with those of today. They changed. Run away from any scripture, doctrine, ideology that is not living. |
Kobojunkie:sorry Bots banned me from replying earlier... 1. There is no such thing as spiritual death this since spirits don't die.Sure, spirit does not die. You will notice l also mentioned "spiritual crystallises", that's the death we are talking about. A state where you are not open to change as brought about by the Holy Spirit which may even go against written scripture. We know there are laws that supersedes lots of scripture. An example is the Jews and Jesus plucking corn or so to eat on a Sabbath. The Jews are crystallized on scripture.... That's spiritual death. You can see how sad most of these holiness peeps are, I have been with plenty of them. If a 'Chosen' or Deeper Life person for instance have their way, they would burn most people in hell themselves. We know the resentment, vile they harbour while judging and condemning is akin to witchcraft. It does same damage owing to the subtle constitution of man. Also you claim this man, after experimenting with the souls and eternities of millions can retrace himself and be commended by it, I ask how and by whom?Lol, you have to understanding that religious doctrines operate in a closed-loop manner. No room for change, input or upgrade. If an icon like Mohammed, Jesus Kumuyi told their contemporaries to wear only shorts due to reasons of the time, they follow it non-stop even if the condition ceased... You can broaden the occurrence of this phenomenon across lots of doctrines found today which they feel is "Holiness". Why is this worth commending? Ha! its a miracle! Coming from a rigid and myopic point of view that formed the 'Deeper Life Outlook and Perception', its huge, it may reverberate across the compound that houses MummyGO and the likes as they begin to see the folly in their belief system. Poverty has a way of making subscribers of people told they are messed up because of an angry God. |
Some people rated him ahead of Lewandowski. What do we know ![]() |
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Michelle70:Wike is not autocratic but likes to keep excesses in check. You would agree that for you to keep things going in this country, you will need to do same. By this, I do not mean abuse power. Wike does it withing the ambits of the law. Goodluck was viewed as weak and was ousted for Buhari who was known to be no-nonsense. Buhari failed because he dabbled into diabolism and pursued a religious agenda and was subdued by same. Payment of Salaries and Pensions on the federal level is a different ball game. Occultism does not translate to evil even from the meaning of the word. I will go with Wike even bases on the traits you complain about. Only his body language is enough to end a lot of nonsense put in place today. If Wike mans any position of power in this country, everyone concerned with sit up. |
Anyone can wear anything. |
Why do I feel a Wike is what Nigeria needs? A lot of cleanup needs to be done and Wike is the only person amongst the aspirants I feel has the will power and balls. |
tobbyteee:I would be wary of any phone that doubles as a bloatware. |
Kobojunkie:That's what l said all the while that his actions lead to spiritual crystallises. A state of hardening of the heart and mind where there is strong resistance to Love, change and growth. This is akin to spiritual death and he can only a make bold to retrace his steps and he be commended for it because not everyone is that humble. It is safe to say such people reincarnate again after working out the karmic effects of having a restrictive mind, coming out as dwarfs or extremely thin people (reflecting the limitive mindset) in very restrictive countries like North Korea all in a bid to repay the freedom they denied many. This leaves a bitter taste in their subconscious which the carry to another lifetime and wanting nothing to do with such kind of thinking that lead them to the Deeperlife kind. After several incarnations, they wind up with liberal sermons like Pastor Chris or so. Isn't this how the doctors of today are made, from killers to those being killed "for no reason" and eventually to savers of life in further lifetimes? This is our collective stories. This is why I said he should not be condemned for All of us have done worst, worked and are still working it out as our destinies today. |
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Ola17:I wouldn't call him con man, just a Soul learning the ropes on Truth. Although 'innocent evils' or half truths tend to be more dangerous. |
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