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Templee333:
MONEY RITUALS IN ECKANKAR?
There'r so many rumours abt eckankar.One of this is that eckankar is a money ritual society.I was told dat eckists kill their family members 4 money rituals & drink blood. In the eck centre,i knew eckists who were still strugling financially & some who were doing well. But i didnt knw any dat was extremely rich. I didnt get a hint abt blood money in their teaching. We were told that one's status in life depends on his past actions (in present & past lives), & dat any who wants to be rich must work hard. But when people relate stories of eckists making blood money & tormenting family members, stealing their destinies & bla bla bla, i doubt these stories. However, i feel that eckists are secretive in some matters. They didn't tell us new comers abt initiations,how & why it is done...LATER

Information about Eck initiations are presented on a public platform--a website

https://www.eckankar.org/engage/advanced-spiritual-living/eck-initations/

Templee333:
all u said above would be ok if not for the lines: "u didn't do it with love...recommended".
Sory i have 2 ask u this,How do u knw my motives & thoughts?

Like I mentioned elsewhere to you, "the apple does not fall far from the tree".

When you get results with the HU, you are at home finally with God within you. You are contented, happy and feel secure, this is not contentment by faith as in the case of the religion with nothing to show for it.

You run not after God of Men for help or complaining that you are experiencing nothing and your throat may break down.

When you sing it with love and feel or sense the ECK, love and sweetness will fill you up that you can't wait to do it again. You may experience light in your spiritual eye and hear the music of God. Mozart the deaf composer hears this music and whatever he was able to put on paper was called and hailed a classic despite the fact that what made its way to paper was a mundane version of what he heard.

This is what it means to experience God first hand rather than reading or hearing about it. Healing, Soul Travel, clear mind (intelligence), joy are after-effects of hearing and seeing this light. If you wonder what the fuss is about seeing the light and hearing the sound is, then these are the mundane effects of it.

This Sound and Light is not a reserve of Eckists. Any one regardless of faith in God or lack of it can hear and see it. Intelligence, etc are but the many ways it manifests and works in all living things. When people see light, hear the sound or experience both, they are experiencing it in it's purer form.

Not everyone can withstand the Holy Spirit in it's purer form. This is why you are asked to sing HU for maximum of 30min max. Repeat again daily to gain in stamina. A little flash of it can leave you sleepless for days, worse IF you are not ready and prepared for it. Conversely, it can make you spiritually great.

Also note removing all your problems with one fell swoop may send you rolling off balance (to put it mildly). So many things we ask that we are not ready for practically.

"Eckankar" translates to "Path of the Holy Spirit". It is where you eat bones and not live on milk of scriptures, beliefs, dogmas and creeds and so on.

Templee333:
now if u say my information on this thread is wrong,please point the wrong ones out & correct them here 4 all to see.

This may distract you or seem like I am trying to gag you. Please feel free to air your views.

The reason I said I knew your problem was in view of those views I said were incorrect. It shows you didn't learn much. The most crucial you learnt which is singing of Hu, you didn't do it with love for God or diligently as recommended. It's supposed to give you results. It is not an item of Eckankar. Muslims and many other tribes and religions sing it.

Success relies largely on your effort in Eck. So much to learn and know bro.

Nebes:
I didn't expect to laugh but your last paragraph truly cracked me up. Thanks for the laugh.

Actually he needed to have done that

Templee333:
I'm not blaming anyone 4 any problem,i'm telling a story 4 who cares 2 read. U can't have a clearer picture of a person u've never met in real life so how comes u know my problems & motive?
That aside,ur post on the link above is quite educative & i love it. By the way,if u feel that i'm spreading wrong information,pls point it out & i will gladly accept ur correct info. Thanks @chieveboy

No problems at all. It pays to know more about this Eckankar. I found it here on Nairaland and never want to look back .

I said I know your problem because I followed your earlier post about OOO. I have had my fair share on a miserable life and adding it to going to such places. Double misery it became.

Templee333:
THE COST OF MEMBERSHIP
In order 2 have full contact with the light & sound,u need 2 be a registered member.They explained that i have 2 pay N20K(as of then). What! 20K? where will i get dat kind of money? Apart from that,i'll need 2 renew my membership (with money) every year. The only reason i didnt join the path was the financial cost,i couldnt afford it. They said i should continue 2 chant hu.The mahanta should've understood that i was ready to join if not 4 money reason,but he didnt undstnd. So he withheld all the goodies frm me 'cos i didn't have 50USD to pay,how sad! But now i do think abt it,does one realy need 2 be sending money from Nigeria to US so dat d whiteman can teach him how 2 fly in dreams? US is far richer than Nigeria,so if he REALY loves us as he teaches,why not show us everything 4 free? If i must pay him 50 dollars b4 i can live in that fantastic heaven of eternal bliss,then something is wrong somewhere.

I suppose the $50 suggested donation buys you these privileges and NASA is wasting it time and billions making telescopes to have those useless images sent back fro mars and others when they could actually be their in person by paying Eckankar 50 buck...?

Back in the day, I got registered for free after writing Membership Services I don't have the suggested membership fee.

Any ways Sha, I think I have a clearer picture of your problem and it's best you are left to try your best at whatever it is you want to do to resolve it. This is the purpose of being sent to this hard planet at least...

I may or may not provide clarifications (the thing you actually need) to douse some of the ignorance and incorrect information you are spreading here.

Cheers and enjoy the ride regardless. Life is not punishment and is always fair. In all conditions, look for the golden hand of God. This will ease your problem faster than trying to blame anyone out there. If you must take something from Eckankar, it is this point.

Option 1: Perform without bling bling and fine clothes

Option 2: Be arrested and transported in a police van.

He went for option 2.

Templee333:
ok. I've just checked. U commented on my post on "the journey of soul" thread.

Yes I did. Those are nuggets from the Science of Eck.

Templee333:
U must be an eckist! (just sugesting) the things u stated above are what a chella would say @chieveboy

Yes I am. Thanks

Templee333:
A BIG SHOUT OUT to u all there following my story. Just bear with me i'll be updating soon. Btw, how is the story? Does it sound made up? U r free to point out my lies

Just to point out some things you wish you knew:

1A: There is indeed a a whole world (dimension) existing in the water. Call it the water dimension if you like. There are others in the air and we coexist with them and sometimes our world dovetails into these places.

B: Just as how you and I incarnated from other galaxies, dimensions and kingdoms, they too are born here in the Land world. Some of them have been Nollywood actresses and so on. They have the right to live here as you and I.

C: People from there are born psychics, telekinetic etc hence are mostly 'prophets', mediums, babalawos, priestesses etc.

D: Some of the water people who roam the street were not born. Some of them can bi-locate and materialize here in the land world just as how some Land people (you and I) develop the skills to bi-locate into the water world to see things for ourselves and have fun.

E: Most or some of the time, they do not have your best interest at heart. Just as some of the Land people (humans) can be unarguably more evil than the so-called demons. The water world is home to people who are yet growing in the scale of love. This simply means they can be good or evil just as must occur anywhere you find souls learning to be mature be it in land, water, air or the ethers.

G: Some churches here are established by the water people. They have powers. How they use it is in the fruits... Cheers.

Templee333:
what! D u mean i was a smoker in my past life?

I updated my comment. Kindly go through please and see if you really meant to ask whether you were a smoker or not. I though cannot say. It is however said the apple never falls to far from the tree. I have done worse than smoking in a past life and paid for it and did a lot of good and reap it today. We make our destiny. Thank you.

Templee333:
Please can u explain how my condition of health could raise me to another degree? I need you to elaborate on this. Let's say the health problem is severe asthma that resist all treatment. Explain plsPlease can u explain how my condition of health could raise me to another degree? I need you to elaborate on this. Let's say the health problem is severe asthma that resist all treatment. Explain pls

More on Ben's explanation:

People who used to have tribal marks do sometimes reincarnate with some of these marks from childhood. Some people go as far as marking a child they feel had been reincarnating, and the child comes back with the mark in same position. Not once, not twice.

It's an interesting research if you can ask the elders around you and little children the subject of reincarnation.

Now a person who spent a certain lifetime taking substances that takes a toll on the respiratory tract is likely going to come back with a poor respiratory tract. Why? The secret is in what would be called the 'energetic memory' and 'energetic signatures'.

Like in the case of the birthmark, you carryover the energetic signatures and memories which reflect on the skin and internal organs as good or bad health. People call these signatures/memories karma.

Finally, how this condition can be resolved as best as it can be is first to identify and take responsibility for that condition. It means to basically own up because there is no error or chance in life.

If you are lost as to how in the world you could have lived before to initiate the condition you experience today, that's where the Almighty Holy Spirit comes in.

This is what we refer to as ECK, it means 'One' literally. People call it Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit etc. By IT, you can travel back along the time track to see how you could have abused your respiratory tract which caused the condition you have today as a result.

This Holy Spirit is available at you Beck and call. Work with it in the day and especially before sleep and watch your dream. A simple technique as you must have found here is to sing HU. It will put you in the vibration of the Holy Spirit. This is the key, this is the easy way. May the blessings be.

...While the Imams maintain intolerance right?

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*ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2022 TEMPLE OF ECK Seminar cordially invites you to an Online HU Song and ECK Light and Sound Service scheduled as follows:*

*Date: Sunday, July 24, 2022*

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*Theme of ECK Light and Sound Service:* *_Creativity – Key to Spiritual Survival in Our Times_*

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elated177:
Why the further display of frustration?

I see your camp loves the idea that people are frustrated. Enjoy!

elated177:
Why the frustration? We must not worship the same God.

If you saw frustration in my response, a mirror was before you.

elated177:
I disagree with everything you said above.

The Scriptures of my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, disagree with all that you said above.

Talent is as real as the oxygen we inhale.

Matthew 25: 14 “Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his wealth to them. 15 To one he gave five bags of gold, to another two bags, and to another one bag, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. 16 The man who had received five bags of gold went at once and put his money to work and gained five bags more. 17 So also, the one with two bags of gold gained two more. 18 But the man who had received one bag went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money.

19 “After a long time the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them. 20 The man who had received five bags of gold brought the other five. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with five bags of gold. See, I have gained five more.’

21 “His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

22 “The man with two bags of gold also came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘you entrusted me with two bags of gold; see, I have gained two more.’

23 “His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’

24 “Then the man who had received one bag of gold came. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25 So I was afraid and went out and hid your gold in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.’

26 “His master replied, ‘You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? 27 Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.

28 “‘So take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has ten bags. 29 For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 30 And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Also, Luke 19:11-27.


You see, each human being comes out the womb with a specific task or some tasks assigned to him or her by the Creator. He/she is also given power that commensurates with that tasks or tasks. He/she will give account of how he/she used the power/talent/bag of gold/minas at the end of the age when we all appear before our Creator.

So, luck? Nope. Talent? Yes.

Ironically the parable of the sower is on people who feel God randomly decides to punish someone for no apparent reason with blindness from birth, poverty, wicked uncles, deafness and any other bad which happens to "good people".

More so, the parable is on you if you think your little book had captured all truth in creation that you go about quoting it even when nature and life and even the book (Bible) clearly debunks it with "whatever (all not some) a man sows, that MUST he reap".

Your book debunks the justness of God if God decides to just randomly "bless" man with good health from birth while he "punishes" another to be born without legs and hands.

Lack of knowledge of Past Life's and Reincarnation is why you have some people having a grudge at God for not rescuing his people when they call to him and they become atheists.

Hello

Destiny is simply a collection of Causes you effected in this lifetime or a Past one whose effect you have to bear even if it means being born again as an "innocent" baby who did not annoy God but God allows bad things to happen to it as people assume.

Rewards of generousity in which you find people are being benevolent to you in this lifetime or the next or having benevolent uncles or such are how you reap from being good to others. Reverse can be the case.

Life is always balanced. No chance for luck or "talent" as people think. A keyboardist or pilot would come back to a lifetime with "natural" knowledge of the piano from tender age.

When bad things happen to an "innocent" baby, the baby or anyone in which it appears life or God is unfair to is merely reaping what it sowed. Know that people do not always reap the reward of their good or evil in a certain life. To spice things up, life sometimes postpones the punishment or reward to a future life.

This becomes the person's destiny.

Lovers of God are invited. It's all about this thing called Love so spoken about but hardly experienced and practiced. This love is God literally speaking.

Enjoy and may the blessings be!

Service starts 9AM Nigeria. Today Sunday 17th July, 2022. Link below

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Time:
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Theme of ECK Light and Sound Service: Get Creative Insight from Difficult Situations

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rickleye:

You could have stopped at your first sentence, the rest .. common now.. do you have a degree in Psychology ?

Just when I thought the question hits...then you mentioned "psychology"...

CuteEmma:
Hmmm. So left handed people are automatically immune to voodoo abi? Meaning juju can distinguish between left and right hands, funny

The human body is a work of art, physics and biology. The left hand is the negative pole literally speaking. Voodoo or whatever is simply energy with somewhat negative polarity to it. The left hand offers no resistance and it's why it doesn't work with voodoo.

This is not to mean voodoo cannot be configured to work either way. Primarily, the left hand is naturally resistant to that.

[quote author= post=114699563]Say na left hand u dey use puck money for floor?
And nothing go happen shey?!
Nice one!.


Baba Nothing Go happen.
Okay nah!
E sure for u be dat.[/quote]There are stuffs to do to those things, picking of such with the left hand is one and neutralizes it. Go research with the nearest baba.

Left hand neutralizes voodoo. Ultimately, ignore such things on the road or anywhere.

Heaven is within you. You cannot exists outside of heaven. You are made of heaven.

Your thoughts originates from heaven. This heaven can be explored via extension of awareness into there or any geo location on earth as if you were there. VR is a recursion to that science. You go to a place without going to a place.

muyico:
God is full of patients. I wonder how alot of people we ve rot in hell
mr man turn back to ur creator? D hervest is vry near! No times to weste

We in Eckankar visit hell, the heavens, practice the art of dying (literally) like saint Paul in the Bible for educational purpose so as to debunk all these fears that send shivers down the spine and free ourselves of any doctrine we've been thought which doubles as a spiritual hindrance which religion uses to keep people in check.

We ride on the power of Love instead of fear and attain spiritual freedom from doctrines, ideas, cultures and mindsets that had held man captive under the grasp of what the church calls Satan.

muyico:
That is a question for you! Why do we have many names on one body? Rembr christ is one body? Why do we keep speaking again some group in christ? Mode of worship and doctrine is totally different? Do we ve many christ? Or as christ said "that many we come in my name"

States of consciousness vary and people will create institutions to reflect this. As institutions (church denominations) are formed, people in similar state of consciousness will naturally drift to that. This explains why you have many church bodies with different practices.

Eckankar is not a church. It is a coming together of people with interest on the spiritual things of God than social gathering. Eckankar is known as the path of spiritual freedom.

muyico:
Why can u guyz convert to deeperlife members or redeem?

You mean we should convert to Deeper Life and Redeem?

We in Eckankar know that God is not into chur h denominations or even religion itself. We know that everyone is on his own unique path to God even if they are in the same church.

This means even atheists are on their way to God and we let them be.

It's ongoing. 9-10 AM July 10 2022.
Lovers of God are invited.
Enjoy.

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petra1:
True but that’s satanism’ thats not casting out. That’s replacement





The Bible is more current than your tomorrows Paper. You only didn’t get to read it. Why not read it for yourself. And see what you overpass. I can’t argue you to light because of your human ego. But read the Bible before you condemn it. Telling you spiritual things wont make sense according to scriptures.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Sorry about the following: The Holy Spirit is the only living word of God. Any issue from it that is written down in paper must have lost a lot of originality and truth to fit in a paper.

I now see where the challenge lies.

petra1:
As long as they didn't ban you from reading the bible in eck. what I quoted was the words of jesus



whats your source? Read the bible portion again

That's the problem with making books your authority . Two prostitutes ("devil's children" fighting themselves amounts to the devil dividing against it self and that scripture and proves that scripture wrong.

Common sense is not ordinary sir. Two people armed with Juju (demons) would fight for supremacy, right of way, scarce resources and so on. If one carries a much stronger demon, the stronger takes the day. A stronger demon can even make the leaser vacate space (someone's body) for it.

You sound like the demons live in peace while it's the children of God fighting themselves, yet you are claiming "spiritual" .

I will suggest you revisit physical matters to learn more, earn more wisdom before delving into the realm of spirit that's even if you can because you need a lot of wisdom and common sense in the inner worlds. If a book says Jesus said Lagos is in Saudi Arabia, you should probe and prove it if first Jesus actually said or if he indeed did, is Lagos truly in Saudi Arabia. Common sense "is profitable to direct" We take nothing for granted as spiritual scientists.

just leave spiritual matter alone [\quote]

We honestly should


[quote]Not true. ignorant person can't deal with demons . it's a dangerous venture. have you ever Read about the Sons of Sceva

Again, books! "Sons of sceva" . The meaning of "Bible" is basically a collection of documents to form an authoritative document. Those documents are works and experiences of others like you. Make you own findings rather than opening Habakuk to check which side of the ear Peter cut so that you can make cutting left ears a doctrine. Nothing is written on stone. If Sceva's kid had that experience, it doesn't mean it will always happen that way .

I was in it in the days of my ignorance just like you . Chanting the HU, surrendering to MAHANTAN .

Oh, so you actually failed in spirituality while Christians and Muslims succeeded with the HU eh? Who is 'MAHANTAN"? Are you sure you were in Eckankar?

holding hands in circle. doing the meditation. assuming spirit travell . out of the body experience

"Holding hands in circle" Kwa? There are public video on YouTube and live seminars shared via zoom were ECKists sing HU. Again, confirm of they hold hands and move in circles. Maybe you joined PETRANKAR...

. That's really the demonic practice!!!

What's a demon? We did held hands in Church and spoke very interesting languages we never understood back then, not bad on their own but are you referring to that or their is a difference?

Well.my post above answers you. What you're seeing as a new discovered way is frying pan to fire . Jesus is head of all principality. HU is a religious demon �

You still have not given me your personal experience investigating that church in the inner worlds. You however announced your state of consciousness. You are good with seeing the demons in yourself because it tends to mirror back.