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Gointo:
so in your own words aliens are gods idolaters worship right,
well I don't know about that.

It may be a shock when you discover who characters like "Baal", "Lord God", "My Lord" "Angel" "Zeus" "Angel Michael" "Allah" etc are or is as the case may be.

Note that idols are actually depiction of real entities and not "man-made gods" and neither are they imaginary. The Christian bible offers very good clues to this reality. These beings have favorite tribes, regret their actions and rejoice and mourn.

For instance you were told stories like that of "the sons of God" descending and marring the daughters of men, how a star lead the three wise men to where Jesus was (kindly check sizes of stars online and what could happen...).

You also heard of the angels destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, "Chariots of fire", and especially "flying horses" in the Book of Revelations.

It's not like this information is new. It simply crushes a lot of belief, hence too shaking for us to even go into and beyond the initial stage of shock (denial).

melodyogonna:
Where has these sightings happen?

We're not talking of 'sightings' here. I mean contact. The so-called aliens have bases in outposts in Nigeria, Central Africa, Tibet, South Africa, Tanzania, and many such places.

Ah! Africans did and still do. The issue is they like their biblical and greek counterparts call them "gods", and other names.

He overreacted.
RIP.

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Truths were mixed up in the bible. Indeed someone is coming just as the Jews (John the Baptist) envisioned it before what you have today as 'Chrisianity' painted his revelations to their taste and liking.

Again like the Christian bible predicted, things will indeed turn south. A master from another planet who was dubbed the 'Christ' will come to save mankind.

Understand that the bible has stories about these beings but where lost in plain view. Spaceships and technologies used by the beings who made us in their image where tagged "Flying horses" "Chariots of Fire" " Star of Bethlehem" etc as part of how we had truths veiled in language.

They called them "my Lord" "Lord God" and "Lord God Almighty", etc. They vary and had their short comings.

They are here and are revealing themselves most likely soon.

IT is all so simple yet so difficult to grasp

AntiChristian:
We are not looking at anybody as superior or inferior! We call Muslims to what is appropriate according to the texts of Islam.
And you are not a Muslim who follow the texts of Islam in this case....

Lover's day is not part of Islam. It was brought by one immoral Saint Valentine.....

Actually Muslims partake or observe several events and activities that are not part of Islam: Worker's day, Independence Day, Monday, Tuesday, to name a few.

The problem I can let you know is just a lack of Space and understanding which the average zealot lacks and can't give his fellow man under any guise.

You call St. Valentine an Immoral, what he actually did was be martyred for the sake of love and that day is in commemoration of his sacrifice for Love, are you confirming Love is an immorality in Islam? Whether there is immorality today in Valentine celebration is left for the partakers, after all, even Haj candidates partake of prostitutes in Mecca which does not make Haj an immoral affair.

I am sure you know nothing of St. Valentine by referring to him as "Immoral", and then we would have to visit your prophet under your definition of "Immoral".

I feel you simply and characteristically just want to supress and dictate how people including Muslims live their lives as though Muslims who observe the day are doing so as an Islamic practice.

AntiChristian:
Who said they hate each other? We celebrate love everyday not fixing one day!

I told you how fixing a 'Mother's Day' does not mean thats the only day people appreciate their mothers nor thats the only day she is a mother.

You just need to look beyond your nose to find meaning in everything, you would give people including Muslims who celebrate 'Lovers Day' their space and not look at them as inferior Muslims.

AntiChristian:
We love Islam. Our love is everyday for our Lord, our families, loved ones and friends!

We don't fix a date to show our love!

Say No to Saint Valentine's day

Actually this statement is just to sound fantastic..."you love your families everyday"

The people celebrating Valentine, are they hating each other everyday only to take a break on Valentine's day?

AntiChristian:
We love Islam. Our love is everyday for our Lord, our families, loved ones and friends!

We don't fix a date to show our love!

Say No to Saint Valentine's day

Sometimes, you just need to catch a whiff of it.

Mothers are mothers everyday but there is such a day as 'Mother's Day'...

Always look for the love, laughter and ANY opportunity to be in a celebrative mood and you would be a better person/Muslim. It will dissipate negative energy that comes with the dissociative tendencies in most religions. These actually cuts you off from God. This explains why most 'pious' people are unkind and unhappy. They cut the flow of vital life force by being restrictive thinking that is pleasing to some deity.

I am an ECKist but celebrate Christmas, Salah, I would be attending a Muslim friend's naming ceremony later in the day. You just need to see the bigger picture, just stretch your neck a little to ask why are these laws made and how would they affect me?

No ceremony, celebration, association, religious declaration not made from the heart CAN change your religion or ideologies and most importantly the unconditional love of God to you as Soul.

But the animals starve in the zoos. Which way?

bandjay:
THE WINDS OF CHANGE
A change is approaching.
Your situation or fate has been adjusted.
You should choose whether to alter your present bearing or remain your course.
New possibilities and potential new issues are not too far off.
Be ready to adjust.

As I have added these cards from Madame Endora, I have additionally added the Thoth card that I had laid them with. This entertains me and fortifies their implications for me. Kindly hold on for me!
This card was laid with Thoth's Tower. That's the short and long of it concerning this combo? Golly!

The wind had ever been blowing, just that this time, its a paradigm shift. Change is the only constant.

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Hello, done. Thanks

God is experienced not read about or being told about

I went to Army Day Secondary School Sani Abacha Barracks Abuja around 1996. Back in the day, we used to pass by this ECK Center located in the bush of what is today New Nyanya while visiting family up north or going for tours around Nasarawa and Jos.

As little chatty and inquisitive boys we would talk about how that is a place of "cultists kingdom" when we were listings cults. We use to list cars too and more. When we pass by the ECK center in New Nyanya, we would try not to look at it and would be praying, binding and casting for fear of something zapping us in.

I eventually went to another school. I would see their posters with "HU a Love song to God" written on it. I would wonder how that kind of song would go, just "HU" and you have sang a love song...?

Odd and doesn't make sense for me! I didn't know it was sung in a long drawn out manner. I concluded "Huh" would rather be an exclamation. This all happened in my head while trekking back to the hostel one day from town.

I found Nairaland back in 2005. Thanks to a paper called Success Digest Extra which I never missed. After being a regular spectator on Nairaland without an account, I decided to register 2009.

I have had spiritual experiences as a little boy of about 7 or so where I met a man in heaven whom I believe was the lord Jesus Christ due to his shining countenance and Jesus-like hair and facial semblance to the images of Jesus around.

I told my mum about this who hushed me up because she believed such might mean I was going to die. She probably prayed about this. I latter got to see the picture of this man in an ECKANKAR book after joining. They called him "Gopal Das". He was a master who served in the ancient empire of Egypt. He now teaches the ways of the Holy Spirit in a 'Golden Wisdom' school in the capital of the first heaven.

I had experiences with light in my dreams that made my physical eyes weak to sunlight. This was me around 7-8 years old or so. Around being 23 years, I had constant visions of the future coupled with numerous déjà-vus that it confuses me if life is being rewound or something.

I started to give attention to esoteric websites. I was looking to be an extraordinary Christian beyond a bench warming full-of-scripture-and-beliefs type without any tangible proof or experience with the supernatural other than what I believe and read.

This voice that speaks to me right from when I could remember had now guided me to Christ Embassy as where I should be calling it a "pot". It goes "Use this pot to..." ( I am not including the remaining words for privacy).

I had and did it all at Christ Embassy. Did the ministry training and all and at one point, I was satiated and would not have any more. I stopped going to church after watching a certain Joyce Meyer sermon, not that she did or said something wrong.

What she said I guess activated an instinct, and that was it! No more church, bible or any other thing for me. I want my own experience and not that of others!

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Niflheim:
@op,

1.God has no hands.

Amazing.

2.

Jesus has holes in his hands.

Like all they would hold is liquid?

3.

The god Shiva is always holding 4 different items in each of his 4 hands!!!

LoL, sounds like they got their hands full

4.

The god Tyr, had one of his hands eaten by a wolf!!!

Eya, how's the hand?

Moral to the Story: Putting your trust in a god is like reciting poetry to a goat!!!

Quite a good advice. Our destiny is in our hands. Good one there, but with all these guys having a one or two with their hands, are we good to go or we're equally damned?

The way the case went says a lot, but then it's not everything money can buy.

Nigerians know what transpired and not everyone can be bought.

Guys, I want to let you all know that you should forget about contacting the CBN, it is all effort in futility. They are more useless.

I made a transaction with Zenith bank since last year May which failed and the money never reversed. After very three months, I contacted this same CBN email. I want to tell you all that this CBN complaint handle is equally useless as Zenith bank who withheld the money despite acknowledging the fault till today.

Just go hang yourself if you want simple things to work in this country.

gypsey:
precisely, as i ve said, he just made that shit up and is enjoying the curiousities and attentions, hence he is economical with informations on the "unity" i mean, the more people are aware of the unity wouldn't it be the better?

Maybe

But I hope you know sometimes, the mad people are the sane ones while the sane ones are mad ?

gypsey:
That is just some weird stuff he made up in his head... i mean, why would the so called Unity be a secret? If it's called Unity.

Lol, he is not so far off as one might think though.

UnusualEmissary:
Y'all (powers from all over the world) should continue flexing the tiny, overrated muscles you've got. You people will never be able to exercise true power. You simply do lack the rudiments of true power and cannot really provide credible solutions to the problems of the world. That's why the world keeps falling into problems upon problems while it's in your care

Just wait for The Unity. He is coming soon. And when he comes, The world will recognize what true power really is and how effective it is in solving world problems.

We await your coming, The Unity

I will like to hear more on this please. Thanks

She may attract them.

Kobojunkie:
Is comprehension now become a problem...

1. From where I stand, the Laws of Nature and Laws of Physics are not God's Law - Law that defines the relationship between God and man..

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The laws of nature and of Physics do not define the relationships between God and man, so they are not to be compared in any way or form to God's Law as defined in scripture.

Why you keep bringing up laws that have nothing to do with the religious context of this discussion is beyond me and I keep having to explain to you over and over that scripture is not a book about how the universe or nature works but scripts that speak of the relationship between God and man.

It is because you do not know that the so-called Ten commandments (which to you defines the relationship between God and man) is actually a dumped-down or interpreted laws of nature . If you do not know, Nature is a direct manifestation of the Supreme Deity itself!

Example of how Ten Commandments are from the laws of Nature:

Law of nature: For every action, there is an equal reaction.
Punishment: You reap what you sow accordingly.

"Laws of God": Thou shall not..., Thou shall not... multiplied by ten
Punishment: hell...

Law of Nature: Relativity-It says anything is in relation to another. Farness is in relation to a given position, Beauty is relative, sadness is relative etc.

Law of God: "If you do this, I will do that. What you do is relative to my disposition, edict or wish. You can kill that and its good but kill that and its bad. Anything is relative to (my) anything".

You only need to raise your head up and delimit your reasoning. If Kumuyi had done so from the onset, he wouldn't have subjected millions into needless destruction of the body and its flow of vital Life Force.

Kobojunkie:
What you have stated here changes absolutely nothing of what I have said so far of what is stated in scripture - not a word of scripture is changed by it. So I hope you are now done with this unnecessary segway of yours?

Let me put it in another form:

If the ancient Sumerians worshipped someone who is not the supreme deity and who was adopted by the Israelites and today, then any scripture still presenting that same entity as the Supreme Deity is not worth taking in as authoritative because that scripture too does not know better (as a matter of saying).

Further referring to it is like redownloading a source of virus. This is my drift all the while.

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly do you get that idea from what I posted?

If another entity other than God created the laws of nature (Gravity, Thermodynamics, Etc), then someone is running the show aren't they?

Do you know the name of that syndrome l spoke about earlier? I call it 'Running with your head down in the market' Syndrome. This is what Kumuyi suffered and you're exhibiting same here. Actually the Parable of The Sower is on such people. This is why science-inclined countries have so much while those who have their head down lack much.

This syndrome is found in religion. The tendency to feel if its not (mentioned) in the Bible, its not Godly, like the bible was a compendium of all things. If someone advanced in the deeper things of the bible hears you mentioning that the laws of nature are not of God, they would be shocked to their marrows.

Kobojunkie:
1. In every culture on this planet, you will find that people's worship several gods, so it matters little to nothing what other deities where worshipped by whom and why.

Abraham, as far as scripture is concerned chose, and worshipped the God that later became the God of Israel. The God of Israel then gave to the Israelites, through Moses, a Law book that contains, not 10 but 613 commandments and statutes, which they refer to as the Torah.

I am not certain what you hope to gain by deviating from the subject here but I hope you don't intend to push this past this post.

Very well. The God in ancient Summer, that of Abraham is the same one repackaged into what you have in Israel like you rightly said. There is something to catch here. They called this being Anu. Anu or An is the God of Israel...

How does this add up to making amends to beliefs and doctrines? You've been my guest!

Kobojunkie:
1. From where I stand, the Laws of Nature and Laws of Physics are not God's Law - Law that defines the relationship between God and man..

2. I have more than made myself clear as far as the God that I speak of from the beginning of this debate. The 10 commandments are not laws of nature but instead a part of an agreement that comprised instead of a total of 613 commandments and statutes, given by God to the children of Israel..

1: You invariably just said another entity is running the show behind God's backyard. Very wow!

LordReed:
If people are returned after death how come human population is increasing? Shouldn't it remain steady?

A misconception is that humans are the only sentient beings that exist in the universe or multiverse. Their a gazillions of Souls in other planets, galaxies and dimensions which the church calls "heaven". A lot of them yearn for a slot to incarnate on earth as humans. Some have been here before and others a new comers.

So the population is not being recycled. in fact given the amount of negativity or hardship on this planet, more souls jostle for a chance to come here.

Kobojunkie:
1.
4. Switching out words won't change any of what I stated there about the biblical law as given by God where sin is concerned..

Did you understand what you just wrote? I actually used the words of Jesus Christs himself o ("sowing and Reaping" ) and you still tried to turn it upside down. Or should enlighten you that Jesus was not talking about agriculture per say but meant 'Action and Reaction' (being equal) ? Boy!
You so live in a state of denial don't you?

Kobojunkie:
Yes, I have read of the sumerians. What about them?

Good. I previously asked you "which God right"?
Are you aware of the deities they worshipped?
Are you aware the Torah which the Old Testament is derived from originates from the records of the Sumerians?

Can you piece these together?

Kobojunkie:
Scripture does not say the earth is the center of the universe though.

Again scripture is not meant as a science book or book about the laws of nature or physics,

From where you stand, the laws of nature and physics are the laws of man right?

nor is it a replacement of such. Instead it is a collection of writings that presents God's Law to man. And everything written in it is meant to be processed in the context on man's relationship with God, and no other way.

Which God? you need to make a distinction. The laws of nature (which the ten commandments where derived from) existed before scripture. This then does not make ANY book it is written on an authority.