₦airaland Forum

IbeOkehie:
My mother migrated to the USA at age 55. Her Nigerian employer pays her ZERO pension but she collects a huge pension by Nigerian standards here in the USA. She caters for MULTIPLE families in Nigeria with her pension.

In the USA every senior citizen over age 65 or 67 is entitled to a minimum pension of around $600 even of you never worked a day in your life. Google it, NY Times wrote a big story about it years ago. Many many immigrant senior citizens are on this "free retirement" payment. Our Nigerian community here is full of such people.

Good Luck to Nigerians!

I guess you can survive on state pension but some people want more in life.

12inchess:
Me I have stopped advicing anyone because they will never hear word. Everybody should do whatever they like. Husband will be working in GTB Bank as a Manager. Maybe wife is working in one good job too in Corporate Nigeria. Typical High-Middle Class family with Teenage kids or kids that are about 8years to 10 years. Rather than think of how to capitalize on their gains, they will now sell all their property and come and "hustle' abroad. Can you tell me which hustle they want to start doing abroad at 40 to 50 years of age? Why not.look for money to send your kids to come school abroad? The risk to reward ratio is just too high if they fail. Japa may not work for you. Now what?

Atleast if you must Japa eventually do it legally and not through visiting visa,or other shady means.

I wonder how many of these Japareians think of pension and their old age. Most people in the western world should have a good pension for their old age .If you are Japaring at age 40- 50, you have nothing. If your pension is property back home, then why bother selling all in the first place to Japa? High risk, low reward!

NuCypher:
Again, your usual myopic Nigerian opinion that sees funding money as personal fortune. You get dollars in funding doesn't mean you should pocket it. Funding means nothing if it's not translated to actual success. At least without the founder pocketing venture capitalist money which appears to be the norm in Nigeria.

You totally missed the point somewhere. Funding money is not personal money indeed. Most of the VC that provide the funds are not sleeping partners and are actually on the board of these companies so there is accountability.

The idea is not just to receive funds but to build something successful to benefit the society and can eventually exit. When it is sold I guess you can make a personal fortune like Shola Akinlade and Ezra Olubi. The company they founded in Nigeria was sold for $200 Million. Of course all of the money is not going into their pocket but Shola did made enough to start Sporting Lagos FC and to acquire a 55% stake in the Danish 2nd division football club Aarhus Fremad.

IbeOkehie:
Really? If it's so easy to make $5 million in Nigeria why are so many people trying to escape the country?

Don't be "so many people" be yourself! Find opportunities where others see obstacles. Be the 0.1%ers and not the 99.9%ers.

Life is not easy anywhere, we just have to keep looking for solutions and there are some doing this in Nigeria successfully.
The link below shows Nigerians getting funding for their various start-ups almost every month.

https://search.techcrunch.com/search;_ylc=X3IDMgRncHJpZAMxWEpqY3lyRVRBdVFERFRyakNzR0xBBG5fc3VnZwM5BHBvcwMxBHBxc3RyA25pZ2VyaWEEcHFzdHJsAzcEcXN0cmwDNwRxdWVyeQNuaWdlcmlhBHRfc3RtcAMxNjk0Mzg1NzY3BHVzZV9jYXNlAw--?p=nigeria&fr=techcrunch-s

43Ronin:
do the maths bro, 1 not-so-technical job will pay at least 90-100k (e.g scrum master). that 100k will cater for all your expenses even with dependants. The second job of 100k is purely savings. Nigerians in IT abroad are making money but keeping quiet especially with the ways niggers talk anyhow on socials. men are making funds bro.

I watch some on this YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/@rediscovertvafrica

The Young Nigerian Living on $60K A Year in Lagos Nigeria
Meet the Nigerian Making $300K A Year in Lagos Nigeria

erico2k2:
If you could afford it, I would advise you to pay, this will be the difference btw the well to do kids and the not so well to do. Since us as parents(Black) are meant to try tripple times than the average English man to prove ourselves. Now on the flip side, there are good boarding schools in Nigeria for kids if you want to think outta the box

I will find an alternative .It is too much but kids who attend such tuition end up going to the best universities that is why there is a waiting list.

I am also considering boarding schools in Nigeria because kids are not as ambitious.
In Nigeria you see black doctors, lawyers, engineer and they are good role models. In the western world successful black people are sport stars or rappers. The TV are full of negative images of black people. It is not a very nice place and it become worst lately as the Japa people are now here working day and night, having no time for their children. Some of them are joining gangs.

There is no discipline and that is a big problem. I had a naija friend who was a teacher and was telling me the naija kids are the worst because they are now able to do the things they can't do in Nigeria.

erico2k2:
How do I as an individual living in London for the most of my adult life BEG people i n Nigeria? and for what?
Most people own thier own homes abroad have two cars one for wife the other for himself, kids go to school and can afford vacation in India, however when people from Nigeria ask them for money you will hear, life is though we are barely able to pay the bills.

Because they work very hard and if they don't take the occasional vacation they will go mad!
They do have a budget and you are not part of their budget.

MT:
Seriously, the bolded always comes up as a routine when it comes to a matter of abroad.

What do you really mean when you say "the future of the children are secured". Who secured it? How? I don't seem to understand that argument.

This is just an illusion. Yes, they have infrastructure. However, it is just the children that take the opportunities that will excel. The placed is filled with lot of distractions and the laws restrict the parents to take actions. Most of their children don't do well in life. Mostly in rehab, doing one silly course, roaming the streets while relying on handouts. Just a few of them make it big.

No country signs any guarantee securing the future of any children in the world. Success is solely a function of how the children are determined to make the best of life, irrespective of geographical location.

I received this email regarding tuition for my children:

We are currently fully booked but will have space in January. Our fees are £55 per hour. If you'd like to be added to the waiting list, please let me know

So English, Maths and is £165 per week. £660 per month per child!

I am sure it doesn't cost this much in Nigeria, even if it is a third of the above quote. Of course I can't afford the above but I want tuition for my kids because school is not enough and I want the best for my children.

juliuscaesar:
I moved to America more than a decade ago, and I can tell you that it is almost impossible to make 100m naira at once abroad. At least l, not from just your salary alone.

When I got to America, I got into tech after working a few years as an office manager for a rehab Healthcare clinic. When I got into tech, my first salary was $125k with a sign on bonus of $20k.

I was not married then, so I was able to save more. A friend then advised me to trade stocks instead of letting my money sit in the bank and get only 1.5% interest in return for a year. I decided to trade stocks on the side while working full time. I got married and was making a decent amount on the side. One day, I fortunately caught on the GameStop boom a couple of years ago and made over $900k in one day as the stock skyrocket from just above $3 to $600 in 24hrs. The SEC had to put a hold on trading, but I had quickly sold.

I took that money and invested it in real estate.

Not many people are that fortunate. So, again , I say, if it is just salary, over time, you might be able to save up 100m naira, but you can NEVER do it at once.

Well done! It is possible to trade GameStop in Nigeria too!

rinzaugustine:
Still mentioning the sme Deloitte that said they don’t know him? This clown is obviously suffering from serious mental problems..smh

There is a book titled "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" by Charles Mackay. Yes, a lot of people are indeed suffering from some psychological problems.
It is absurd for someone running for President in the most populous Black African country know worldwide for their fraudulent activities to start to telling the world he worked for a firm well known worldwide. It doesn't make one bit of sense on the basis of probability theory.

What is even more absurd is the number of press including Arise that comes up in a search in this absurdity. God help Nigeria.

George Santos, ran for the US House of Congress and lied that he worked for Goldman Sachs.
Goldman Sachs released a statement:

"George Santos never worked for Goldman Sachs. We have no record of him ever being employed by the firm."

Deloitte released a statement on Tinubu:

"Please be advised that we have no record of Bola Ahmed Tinubu in our systems and as such have no employment record for them"

Compare the two statements and try and comprehend what the statement is trying to convey.

One is saying, no he never worked for us , the other is saying we do not have any record.

Why don't you have a record, this is the question the 0.1%ers would ask
There have been lots of mergers and acquisition activities over the years so record has been misplace or not updated
We do not keep employees record after a certain period

Recordkeeping Requirements
EEOC Regulations require that employers keep all personnel or employment records for one year. If an employee is involuntarily terminated, his/her personnel records must be retained for one year from the date of termination.

Now go and do a search of Tinubu and Deloitte and see the madness of the crowd.

There is a saying "a fool and his money are soon parted" , which basically means It is easy to get money from foolish people.
If you go to a law firm asking them to do something legal but stupid there are not going to say no as long as you pay!
The law firm already know the answer but if a fool is ready to pay for the service and they are not doing anything illegal then why wouldn't they go ahead? We have a lot of rich Nigerian fools.

We saw the same thing with the recently concluded tribunal. You are presenting a witness who is supposed to provide an unbiased expert view but happen to be full fledged member of the party involved People are expecting this to be acceptable in Nigerian law?
I am no law expect but I have watched some court room drama on TV to know that it is just ridiculous Were they just trying their luck or they really think it would be acceptable in Nigeria law? I don't see Rufai or Abati, saying no that is not solid evidence.

Now off to the supreme court to argue this? A fool and his money are soon parted. I guess all those lawyers we saw were doing it for free

We expect the Judiciary to act on the law and not on sentiment.

chaloskyx:
which yeye 100 days he and his APC elites have been ruling for over 8 years why dint he advise buhari on how to govern and seek for investments there is no excuse he has to perform a miracle or elese hes worthless🤣🤣

Tinubu is no Buhari. Tinubu was not part of Buhari's administration and was not involved in the policy making. Surly you guys can understand this?
Being in the same party does not mean anything. It is possible to be in the same cabinet and have a differences in opinion and not agree with certain policies. Yes it is the policies and not personality that is going to make a difference but having a personality in charge who have a successful track record of achieving is an extra bonus and instil confidence.

I will say give it some time .He is not going to do everything even if there for 8 years, but I can assure you it would be a different Nigeria if the momentum continues.

I can see lots of Nigerians do not have love for Nigeria and actually want to see it fail. I don't get it!

Reflect7:
It doesn't work like that.

If you want investors, especially as an AFRICAN country, you must reach out, or they will not know anything about you, and care even less.

How many times do you see African news on western media that is not negative?

I mean, they won't even show proper BUILDINGS when reporting from Africa, in order to create the impression that everyone there is poor and suffering in a shack or mud hut.

So you must reach out to investors and break those false narratives and stereotypes about Nigeria and Africa, and reassure them, if you really want them to invest billions of dollars there.

I can assure you that foreign investors are not using media for their due diligence for investment decisions involving billions.

chaloskyx:
A rising stock market is usually aligned with a growing economy and leads to greater investor confidence. now the million dollar question is is your economy growing if yes what sectors and what impact has it played in making your economy competitive and strong agains the Usd. 🤣🤣🤣

Every time I read posts on forum such as this, it is just like Nigerians are on another level. I am honestly still trying to figure what it is, whether it is lack of education, lack of understanding of basis economics, or religion has messed up most people mind. It is just puzzling!

Is your economy growing? Are you looking for a miracle. The man has just been in office 100 days and you expect the policies to already start showing? What is wrong with Nigerians?

Time lags refer to the period of time from when an economic imbalance is first recognised and acknowledged until the time that a chosen fiscal policy tool achieves its desired result. Economists believe that the total time can range from one to two years.

The Finance minister has only just announced the policy like some few days ago and you are looking for economic growth within that period? It policies not prayers. The process has started but you have to give it time and eventually it will feed thought, but 99.9%ers are always the last to know.

Foreign investors are not looking for miracles like most of you they are just looking at the policies in place and can see that it is in motion. That is all they need. They are smart and getting in at the bottom.

S&P Global Ratings changed Nigeria’s sovereign credit rating outlook to 'stable' from 'negative' and affirmed the debt grade at ‘B-’, citing President Bola Tinubu’s planned reforms

That is what foreign investors are looking at!

seasonstt1:
Why can't our govt make policies and/or create enabling environment for businesses and investments,that will attract investors. Instead of going this far to woo them.

I guess you are giving those you have gone there to woo, more power to oppress your citizens. If they agree to come and invest.

They have to come here willingly to invest if the environment is enabling enough to invest.

Why can't our govt make policies and/or create enabling environment for businesses and investments,that will attract investors. Instead of going this far to woo them.

The Nigerian Stock Exchange index is at the highest level in over 15 years. This means that the government is doing something that investors like.If you have children and you want them to be successful in life, you teach them to be a go getter, seeking opportunity and not waiting for it to fall in their lap. The same could be said of Nigeria going out to seek opportunity. If Nigeria doesn't , Ghana will!

I guess you are giving those you have gone there to woo, more power to oppress your citizens. If they agree to come and invest.

It doesn't have to be like that. Regulation such as health and safety and other HR policies to protect workers are in place . It is not slavery. Remember also that India is a number one outsourcing destination in the world. This has benefited their country and now we can say "They have arrive!"

They have to come here willingly to invest if the environment is enabling enough to invest.

No one is forcing them! It is also highly unlikely they will pledge such huge amount if the environment is not enabling enough to invest. Such decisions are not taken lightly. There is an huge amount of due diligence involved

lexy2014:
That isn't what I asked.

where is Nigeria back from?

did you see the $14b that was committed or will they give it to Tinubu in india and he will bring it with ghana must go?

Figure it out yourself. If you can't then sorry I can't help you .There are companies mentioned in the statement and the world press are aware of the meeting and watching. It will be reported worldwide.

https://www.reuters.com/world/nigerias-tinubu-attend-g20-summit-india-promote-investment-2023-09-01/

So I honestly don't get your point and can't be bothered! You can believe it if you want but if you choose not to then it's your prerogative.

lexy2014:
where is Nigeria back from?

did you see the $14b that was committed or will they give it to Tinubu in india and he will bring it with ghana must go?

Considering the fact that last year direct foreign investment in Nigeria was $-0.1 billion, $3.31 billion in 2021 and $2.39 billion in 2020, I will say $14 Billion commitment is pretty good for a president in office for only 100 days and even if spread over 4 years. I don't expect the 99.9%ers to understand this. They are usually the last to know and don't have foresight ability. They will only see it when it smack them on their nose

Obi is coming is more believable for them

ManirBK:
https://nannews.ng/2023/09/05/g20-president-tinubu-begins-meeting-with-indian-investor/

$14 billon US Dollar committed.!

STATE HOUSE PRESS RELEASE

PRESIDENT TINUBU TO INDIAN INVESTORS: DO NOT PROCRASTINATE AS NIGERIA OFFERS THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT; LAUDS $14 BILLION IN NEW INVESTMENT PLEDGES AT NIGERIA-INDIA ECONOMIC ROUNDTABLE

President Bola Tinubu on Wednesday commended Indian investors for significant investment pledges amounting to nearly $14 billion U.S. dollars committed during the Nigeria-India Presidential Roundtable and Conference in New Delhi, India, saying, "we are ready to give you the best returns for investment possible, there's nowhere else like our country. Nigeria offers the best returns for investment today, so invest now."

Among these many new investments, Indorama Petrochemical Limited has pledged a new investment of $8 billion U.S. dollars in the expansion of its fertilizer production and petrochemical facility in Eleme, Rivers State.

Jindal Steel and Power Limited, one of India's largest private steel producers, has committed to investing $3 billion in Nigeria, following discussions with President Tinubu on the sidelines of the G-20 Summit in New Delhi, India.

Founding President of SkipperSeil Limited, Mr. Jitender Sachdeva announced that, following President Bola Tinubu's personal intervention, he is investing $1.6 billion U.S. dollars in the establishment of twenty 100MW power generation plants across the states of Northern Nigeria, amounting to 2,000MW of new power within the next four years.

Additionally, the President has approved finalization on a new $1 billion U.S. dollar agreement to bring the Defense Industries Corporation of Nigeria (DICON) to 40% self-sufficiency in local manufacturing and production of defense equipment in-country by 2027 through a comprehensive new partnership with the Managing Arm of the Miltary-Industrial Complex of the Indian Government.

Another Indian firm, Bharti Enterprises, which is a major first-generation corporation in India with interests in telecom, space communications, digital solutions, insurance, processed foods, real estate, and hospitality, has expressed its commitment to invest an additional $700 million in Nigeria, with work set to begin immediately.

Emphasizing that under his pragmatic leadership, agreements must now manifest in industries and jobs on the ground in Nigeria, President Tinubu expressed gratitude to all Indian companies and individuals who have responded positively to his administration's efforts to improve Nigeria's macroeconomic and investment climate.

"Do not procrastinate. Don’t be frightened about investments in Nigeria. Bring it on. Ask your questions and make your requests. The trade and investment opportunities are enormous. I have a team, and I am the captain of that team, and I assure you that we solve problems," the President affirmed.

Prospective investors were informed by the President, that in Nigeria, there is no free lunch or shortcuts, but that he has "good economic policy for the investors as well as able men and women in leadership and on the ground, who can drive the goal of broad prosperity through investment and infrastructure."

"I will captain and lead the course of investment, development, and prosperity for the largest democracy in Africa and for investors from the rest of the world," the President added, reiterating that Nigeria is open for business with intelligent, innovative, capable, and highly committed individuals in government, who are ready to drive the largest economy in Africa to destiny.

The President also told the Summit that "he is proud" that the Nigerian stock market had broken records in its consistent bullishness since he assumed office.

Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister of the Economy, Mr. Wale Edun, who addressed the roundtable themed, "Building Partnerships with Renewed Hope for a Diversified and Prosperous Economy," thanked Mr. Naveen Jindau, Chairman of Jindal Steel and Power Limited, for the new $3 billion investment in iron ore processing and steel development in Nigeria.

Nigeria is back!

captainamiedi1:
But how is their currency still very strong? What do they sell? These whole thing I don't understand at all.

UK makes 80% of their money from the service industry such as banking, insurance, pension, tourism ,retail etc.

dele1727:



I think many of us don't understand a thing or just choose to be plain stupid.....

The Uk has what it calls the waiting list....7.6millon people in the England are waiting to see the doctor....
In Wales 70,000 people are waiting to see the doctor for the past 18 Months...

The other day...doctors talk about Gambia paying $4000 to doctors....but they won't tell you that the cost of studying medicine in the Gambia is $4800 per year....

What is the cost of studying medicine in the UK? £9,000 pounds per year... people will go to ife or Lag or last for #25,000 per year and be asking to be paid the same with those that go to school with $4,800 and £9,000

What is the cost of housing? Or electricity or health insurance? Or transportation?
The only thing cheap in the uk is food and that is rising as well...
And when we talk of Minimum wage... what is the difference between the politicians and the Civil servants ? What most of them take home is far greater than their salary

Their system is no longer working...they now need new breds of Slaves....

You may curse APC and PDP or APGA....

But never curse Nigeria....when you compare countries do it holistically

Security tags now on basic food items

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/24/09/64894355-11465095-Supermarkets_across_the_UK_have_been_cracking_down_on_theft_of_d-a-6_1669283926054.jpg

franchasofficia:
I have never heard about those platforms cos I got to know about HYIPs as far back as when I was an undergraduate and after initial investments on some foreign HYIPs that later crashed around 2006, and another on stocks (Diamond Bank, Bank PhB, Intercontinental, AIT, etc) that later crashed to nothing too, I learnt my lesson and made the decision never to invest a dime in anything investment programme or portfolio outside buying lands/properties and investing on my own startups and business.


I am now more of a traditional man, I only believe in investing my money in landed properties I can see and feel anytime I wanna see them



As for Nigerians, we don't have our own individual minds, reason we always follow whatever that's trending at the moment without finding out if it would pay us at the end or not, let's do like others first and check if it will favor us later lol

Stocks generally perform well over the long run. If you had invested $1000 in Apple stock in 1984, the value today will be $1,162,615.73. This is a buy and hold strategy not trading.

franchasofficia:
Nigerians love jumping into every bandwagon without thinking it through.


Cryptocurrency trading came every Nigerian became a cryptocurrency trader.

All those HYIPs aka Ponzi came every Nigerian became an investor investing millions to triple their income overnight.

Yahoo came every Nigerian boy and girl automatically became Yahoo boys and girls.

POS business came, every Nigerian turned to POS business owner.


Mini importation came, every Nigerian turned to Mini Importer.

Skit making came, every Nigerian turned to Skit Maker and Content Creator overnight.


Linda Ikeji made money in Blogging, every Nigerian turned to Blogger wanting to hammer like Linda.


There was a time every Nigerian almost turned to kidnappers kidnapping even their own siblings.


Qatar opened door, every Nigerian wan Japa to Qatar without plans.


UAE opened door every Nigerian wanted to Japa to Dubai.

UK the same.



My people make una de use una brain small oh

That is our the 99.9%ers think. If you are passing by the betting shops in London now, you will see lots of Nigeria guys, they could see the screens, the sales assistants who are not working for free, the fixtures. The betting shop will have to pay rent, electricity, tax, etc, but these guys still think they can beat the bookies consistently and they keep coming back!

I read a post by a Naija guy on Twitter earlier this week that if you had invested 1miillion naira in the stock NVIDA during Covid time, the value of the stock is now worth over 20 million naira. Imagine investing 10 million naira , that is 200 million naira! However, 99.9%ers are spending 10 Million naira just to come to the UK to wash furo

There are some 0.1%ers in Nigeria who are doing their research and investing on platforms such as Bamboo, Rise, Wealth ng, Cowrywise. When these people are now living the life of luxury, the 99.9%ers will say they are drug dealers, Yahoo etc.

I am not in Nigeria but I know about those platforms. Do you?

Smartguyboy:
You people keep saying for the kid’s future how many African parents can send they kids to best schools or nice university abroad?

That is the thing that the 99.9%ers do not understand. If you are well off in Nigeria, you can afford to send your kids to private primary and secondary school in Nigeria and they can do quite well like Kamsiyochukwu Umeh. If while they are in primary /secondary school you continue to progress in your career, by the time they finish secondary school , you should be able to afford to sponsor their university education abroad. That is how to do it but the 99.9%ers think that coming to UK, Canada, USA automatically mean their kids are getting the best education

Then again maybe like parent like children. The 99.9%ers are only looking to survive and not ambitious and so are content to see their kids attend University of Peckham and get their Micky Mouse degrees and get second class administrative job in some council, only to find their manager was the oyinbo girl who used to be in their class in Peckham Hill College but didn't progress to University. (The 99.9%ers will say, "it is still better than Nigeria )

I am on page 4 and everyone is saying age is just a number Why would they want to give a 40+ man a job when there are lots of 20 something also looking for jobs?

DominusPrime:
Imagine!!! You are assuming Tinubu didn’t need any qualification to gain admission to the college. So you have to assume that on his behalf. Meaning he has never said that in his defense. You just cooked it up from your head and assumed it. And then in your last paragraph you said the fact that he has been able to do this as if you are sure he did it. Can you see how stupid you sound in trying to defend nonsense. You will all have sense one day. Is it not better to agree that you support Tinubu irrespective of his criminal records than to try to make sense of nonsense and then sound daft in the end?

Election campaign 1 Year
First Term 4 Years,
Second Term 4 Years
Fashola First Term 4 years
Fashola Second Term 4 years
Ambode 4 years
Sanwo Olu First Term 4 years
Total 25 years

In the 1960s man solved a solution to go to the moon and was successful. India achieved this last week, but 25 years Nigerians are still speculating about Tinubu. If you are fighting with someone and that person keeps beating you, at some point you have to throw in the towel, but if you are brain damaged then someone from your team should take that decision for you! Let's even assume Tinubu is a fraud , the fact that 25 years later morons are still not able to come up with anything, shows the man is indeed a genius!

Why should he defend himself against morons? Why waste his time? Even the Chicago State University are puzzled why this should be news.
Tinubu has worked in the US and employment contracts are usually subjected to due diligence carried out on the applicant, this sometimes take up to a month. Again we would have expecting something to come up here. Come out of your village mentality and see how things are done around the world.

Give it a rest, support your president and move on! If there is any Incriminating evidence whatsoever, it should be out by now!

Bobxin:
How then, did he get into Chicago without primary & secondary certificates?

In life, we have the 99.9% people and the 0.1% people. Tinubu is a 0.1% person and that is why he is successful.
The 0.1% person is a resourceful person and succeed where the 99.9%ers fails.

Mr Atiku, is a 99.9% person and that is why he is asking stupid questions and embarrassing Nigeria. I read recently that Mr Atiku recently studied in the UK. If he is a resourceful person then he could easily find the answer to his question which is quite simple .

What are the requirements for mature age entry?
To be eligible for the Mature Age entry examinations, the candidate must be at least 25 years old during the year of application

Newcastle University
Our mature students come from diverse backgrounds, including those who have raised a family or are retired with no qualifications.

London Metropolitan University
Mature students don't necessarily need formal qualifications to study with us. You're considered a mature student if you're aged 21 or older when you start.

Australian National University
You can apply as a mature age student if you are over the age of 21 and you do not have an assessable qualification.

There are numerous examples online which are easily accessible to Mr Atiku .If you want to be President of Nigeria , finding such information should be child's play than researching some foreign policy .

I am assuming that Mr Tinubu didn't need any qualification for his admission into Richard J. Daley College. If he was successful in completing that programme then he should be able to gain admission to Chicago State University.

The fact that Mr Tinubu has been able to do this is a plus! He wasn't content with being a taxi driver for the rest of his life. Definitely, not a 99.9%ers! He is forward looking unlike Mr Atiku who is wrapped up in the past!

tosinhtml:
But why are you converting your money to naira, you don't spend in naira. Besides you must have made a lot of income for that high tax.

The Naira equivalent is just to give a picture and to let people understand that regardless of if you are a carer or a banker, you are still a slave to the system, yes I did well last year, but it is not enough and most goes to paying bills .I am also spending a great deal on my children to get the best education and to ensure that they do not end up as slaves too.

When the time comes, I am going back home and home is Nigeria.

The problems with most Nigerians is that there are now few ambitious people all they think about is surviving, that is why you see a banker in Nigeria happy to work as a cleaner in the UK. Why would you want to go to a place where you can't reach your full potential or where your hands and feet are tired?

As I keep saying anyone who cannot make it in Nigeria probably won't be able to make it anywhere else but anyone who do want to come, please do. How many years will it take to make it?

I am sure Portable is richer than me He makes his money in Nigeria!

tosinhtml:
Another Ignorant post with a lot of mis-information.

UK high paying earners does NOT carry the economy, the average salary in the UK is £33,402 per year. Care & NHS Support workers earn around that amount. Average salary in the biggest city which is London is £52,584, a bit higher than others.

Most UK citizens don't earn a lot, so who exactly are the high paying earners? UK citizens are usually okay with their meagre job with 30 - 40k. Recently NHS nurses protesting because they were fed up.

The usual high flyers in the UK are the immigrants just like we have in the US. Most Tech startups in the UK are not owned by Uk citizens, they are owned by foreigners across EU & Africa or Middle-east.

The whole footballing industry is funded by the Middle-east & Americans, so who exactly are the top UK earners?

The UK make most of their money from the service industry (Banking, insurance, fund management etc). These are run by the "should off crew", the Essex boys and girls. Most joining from school and by-passing university. These are the high flyer. I work in this sector and last year the tax man collected from me (using the Nigeria exchange equivalent) of 30 Million Naira!

As for those who want to Japa, as Mr T would say, "I pity the fool!"

Walking into modern slavery!

ednut1:
Some were scared of their children future. Can you blame them

No we can't blame them. A great future awaits the children in the UK!.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkfnD6oFElE

omenka:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuSl8SOKZaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

This is fake news. Always do your research.

https://apnews.com/article/philippines-post-office-fire-37af2e0a876b42240370eee6a7c1cd3a

Kukutenla:
Like i already pointed out, you're trying to adopt a posture of blind optimism but in reality, what you're doing is wilful ignorance and blindness. You're not the first. There are people on this forum who sang Buhari's praises for 8 years and have now turned round to lambast and call him names after seeing him to his failed end. If only such people had joined other well- meaning Nigerians to call out the error of his administration perhaps, he could have ended better. A stinging editorial came from no less a platform than the nation with a scathing title, written by a former director of LASAA. The irony is such wouldn't have happened just six months ago. Now that he's been seen to an ignoble end, they are out with knives. That's the duplicitous nature of hypocrites and sycophants. They are worse than the devil himself.

But i digress. Can you explain cogently the purpose of an unveiling in business terms? I've asked you this before and you ignored it intentionally. Since you were unaware of the main issues with Nigeria Air, one wonders why so strongly support a move you don't have the full details of.

Dapo Olumide did not vindicate you. What he did at the hearing is quite the opposite. He technically went there to wash his hands off the charade. If you listened well enough to him. He made it clear the airline have not met the conditions to fly and that's what he's brought in to work on and nothing to do with the "unveiling".

To your analogy. Your wife will lose all respect for you if you go borrow your friend's car to pose with it as yours just to impress her. That's exactly what Sirika did! What's worse is the humongous funds he's wasted in pursuit of that charade.

And what will happen if we accuse Ethiopian Airlines of fraud? They are already dragged into this matter as willing participants which is part of why Dapo came out to say it was a chartered flight and chartered flights can be painted in any colours the client desires. That's a move to exonerate Ethiopian Airlines of complicity given that we all know Nigeria Air cannot fly. So the plane basically came in as an Ethiopian Airlines flight in Nigerian Air colours!!

Now to the Arise clip. You obviously missed some facts i already told you. He alluded to the fact that the major hiccup with Nigerian local airlines doing well is more of financial than technical. I like the fact that just as I told you, he mentioned his covid has affected their financial vitality. Now where I disagree with Chika is that while Airlines like Ethiopian Airlines, Lufthansa, KLM etc were getting billions of dollars as lifeline during covid, our local airlines were left to suffer by same minister who is looking to partner with Ethiopian Airlines. May i ask if Ethiopia did not rescue their flagship during covid, would he have gone near it for partnership? I also disagree with his "more the merrier" maxim because in this case we need to make big fishes of our small fishes than open them up to be eaten by big fishes under the guise of more the merrier.
Let me remind you that we once had a lot of banks who couldn't play internationally until Soludo came and ordered recapitalisation, some of which occurred through mergers and acquisitions. Today, we have fewer banks but structurally and financially strong such that almost all our banks are playing on the global stage. Our minister could have developed such a model to expand our aviation sector instead of looking for shortcuts with little long term benefits for our local aviation space.
Lastly, note also that Chika also asked for level playing ground, no favoritism and cutting corners for the Nigerian Air. I ask. Based on what I've brought to your attention throughout our discussion, is that the case with Nigeria Air? Was NCAA not pressured to grant AOC to the airline while not meeting requirements, if not for the stubbornness of the DG of NCAA?
I rest my case

You will learn, but I wouldn't hold my breath. It is like you enter a competition but you knock yourself out before the game even starts. I watched the transformation, the rationality sucked out from most of you. I did said that the government 5% will most likely be sold and this was confirmed. Unfortunately, I haven't got time to read your post above and wouldn't even waste my time. I just couldn't resist one last post. Please watch the interview, but it is up to you.

and David Hundeyin, the mickey mouse investigative journalist I have seen primary school children report better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprzRpI1FUY

Kukutenla:
chiself
Take note
I remember you saying Ethiopia cannot willingly join to scam Nigerians.
See this now. Nigeria a 5% equity holder chartered a flight from Ethiopia a 49% equity holder and were asked by Nigeria to paint the craft in Nigeria Air colors and fly it down to Nigeria for "unveiling", knowing fully well that the same Nigeria Air they both have stakes in already failed the AOC test in Nigeria and does not have any aircraft registered in Nigeria to obtain AOC.
Now tell me Ethiopian airlines was not aware of the fraudulent coloration of this exercise.

Dapo Olumide have already vindicated my earlier post. It was an unveiling not the beginning of an operation. When I got into this, I wasn't even aware of AOC! I was just puzzled why all the noise, I expected someone with half a brain to understand what was going on and that is where I came in. I never said unveiling it before May 29 was the best way to go but I explained why it was most likely done like that. Again failed to see why people do not understand what the minister's was trying to do.

Similarly, I am a bit puzzled with the current Nigerian press headlines, ‘It was chartered from Ethiopia’. If in the morning you kiss you wife goodbye that you are off to work and going to catch the bus as usual and you arrive in the evening with a car, you don't need to be a NASA scientist to find out where the car came from as the options does not run into thousands. Is it a new car? This is easy to determine. Was the Nigeria Air plane new? Have you read on Boeing, Airbus website or any of the aviation press that Nigeria Air has placed an order, is it a company car, was it rented, leased, borrowed or stolen? I expect the wife to have some idea before the husband answers. If the husband then tells the wife where the car came from then is there any cause to be running around the neighbourhood to let everyone know, especially if it was leased? It is no big deal. Next question should be why you leased the car.

Nigerians have been disappointed by past government and this has affected the way of thinking! It is like guilty until proven innocent, instead of the other way round. But there is a danger here. If you have a child and you tell him or her not to do something, but you have already told the child what you will do if he/ she disobey you. What if the child then go ahead knowing if the worst comes to the worst, this is what is going to happen, and I am ready to take the punishment! That is what you are doing. You are writing the script! Not very good for future ministers because they already know what will happen! You will only make noise, so they can go ahead. Nigeria is the only place where a market seller and a PhD holder think alike!

I dare you or David Hundeyin to post an article online accusing Ethiopian Airlines of scam and see what happens. You have no evidence whatsoever but you think what is in your head is enough, but that was not how I was trained. All I am seeing is just noise. Even the Senate and House of rep are not capable of thinking rationally anymore!

I watch the below on Arise TV, this morning. This is where I am coming from. This will be my last post here. I love Nigeria but I don't think I can change anything. I will observe from a distance.

Please watch (but I am sure when you and other do, nothing will change and the narrative will remain the same ). Good luck!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZJ_Bx0-aY4

Kukutenla:

It's obvious now you're either just playing or being ridiculous.
What exactly is unveiling? No office, no crew, no website, just an airplane with paint that vanished less than 24hhrs later. C'mon man. You're too smart for this. Here's an excerpt from the main issue I've highlighted which you claimed was "competition"



https://nairametrics.com/2023/05/28/nigeria-air-controversy-aon-accuses-ethiopian-airline-of-gross-court-abuse-regulatory-violations/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/sirika-must-be-questioned-on-nigeria-air-ex-nama-md-iyayi/%3famp

You can see how Sirika wanted to get a five stage license for Ethiopian Airlines under the cover of Nigeria Air without going through the stages. This is one of the issues that prompted the court case.

While it is not true that our local airlines don't ply lucrative routes like Lagos-London, the main reason why they have not been really active in the international routes is more of financial than technical. Our local airlines are really struggling financially if you're aware of the realities of that sector. In fact, it's a big kudos to them for their prudent management that they've been able to stay afloat. Most international airlines got billions of dollars as bail out during covid while ours got pittance which didn't even come at the right time yet you want them to compete on the international stage. Do you know there are only four lucrative routes in the whole of Nigerian domestic airspace as big as Nigeria is. Less than 20% of our population patronise flights. So it's easy to see how difficult the terrain is. Yet a minister who is supposed to develop the sector wants to open it up to unfair foreign competition that will kill our local airlines in the name of national carrier. If the man meant well, why didn't he just restrict the so-called carrier to international routes only to start with until it is divorced from Ethiopian Airlines. Your speculation is wrong. Nigeria Air is expected to fly both local and international.

And I'm not just criticising for the fun of it. It is you who have simply refuse to get a proper enlightenment on the matter but just defending an obviously corrupt and stupid minister with "ifs" and "buts". I'm yet to see anyone who is connected to Aviation in Nigeria give the minister the benefit of doubt in the matter except you, an online analyst. And i believe even the sitting MD and a former MD of NCAA cannot be crying wolf where there is none.
So it's either you're just blinded by flippant, ignorant optimism or you're an online defender. Given my experience with SM, I think I'll go with the latter cause no sane human with neutral standing will be defending this obvious mess the minister made.

Here is a Nigerian newspaper headline
Subsidy: Tinubu to fix one refinery before December — Kyari

Here is Nigerians response

Based on empirical data, shouldn't the headline read, "we plan to embezzle more money before December".

Putting the cart before the horse. What were you guys doing for the past eight years

Lies from the pit of hell. Nigeria politicians and the word “to”. Sounds like a promissory note

This TAM scam is so old. Try to be creative in stealing money

Dem don come again with their lies ooo

When you have those type of mindset, the country can not move forward. People are living in Nigeria like they are living in an hostel and not their father's house. We saw when Thailand had problems, and the citizens were donating their golds to the central bank.

It best to work from top to bottom and not bottom to top which is what you are doing. Just like the above comments, the assumptions is that minister of aviation intentions are not good. I do not believe that, but not believing that doesn't not mean it is not going to play out as you started, but we haven't got there yet. You directed me to a link yesterday but 95% of the posts is just like the one above , I copied and pasted from Twitter. It is the same old song!

All the best and good luck to Nigeria.

Kukutenla:
@chiself
Hope you're following

Were you expecting the plane to stay in Nigeria, or go to UK or Ghana or what are you on about?
It was an unveiling not the beginning of the operation, I stated this many times. The plane has gone back home, Ethiopia. It is an Ethiopian Airlines plane. When Nigeria Air starts it operation then you will see the Nigeria Air planes in the hanger in Nigeria. The link you posted is disgraceful because a 12 year old plane spotter can easily track this Flightradar24. Is this Nigeria journalism

One thing you should understand is that I couldn't care less about Nigeria Air, as someone who believes in less government intervention, Nigeria Air is not top of my priority list. However, we have airlines such as Arik, Virgin Nigeria and Air Peace who have not been able to cash in on the lucrative air routes from Nigeria. Maybe this is a reason why Nigeria is looking for a National carrier, I think it more for international and regional and not local routes. The Lagos - London route is one of the most lucrative for British Airways, so why should Nigeria miss out on this? I believe that could be a reason for the national carrier but that is just my speculation,(not fact).

I posted in this thread because it is irritating where Nigerians first instinct is always to criticise. Always this scepticism, them verse us, they want to steal money, they are corrupt, they are this ,they are that. It always comes down to corruption but nearly 90% of the population do not even understand corruption.

I have a rule based on Adam Smith, "we believe in freedom", which is if you see a hole on the road and you try to avoid it because you know if you don't you will fall and hurt yourself , what make you think other people who are not mad or children, who have also seen the hole will not avoid the hole? Your assumptions are basic and your last post is an example where you are 100% sure I took my source from Wikipedia. That is where we differ but is the norm in Nigeria.