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@Poster,
I have come to believe that women are strange creatures and logic alone could not always be used to explain their choices. Some of them may not be just that into a guy and there's nothing such a guy could do - be it pos or neg - to move her. A girl with an exaggerated sense of self-worth may view such veiled insults as just what they basically are - INSULTS! The toasting format may then likely achieve the undesirable results.

Yoruba

Odour

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Your questions have been answered in previous posts in this thread.

. . .but what the nigerian govt could do is trim the bloated army and spend those billions of dollars that it wastes on "defence" on adequate housing, constant electricity, running water. . . .

This bloated army consists at present of 5 divisions and a guards brigade totalling less than 100K (population of about 150 million). Compare that to Egypt's 33 divisions (population of about 90 million). The 9ja army is at present smaller than those of Angola and Algeria (giant of Africa indeed ). Those billions of dollars spent on 9ja army amounted to a mind-boggling 0.8% of the GDP in 2009. Maybe the money could be better spent on the national assembly.

I dont know if you are aware of this but nations that spend vast sums of money on military defence tend to be either imperialist nations ie with expansionist objectives like the US or repressive ones  - ie with the objective of crushing dissent or opposition within their own countries like nigeria.  Other developed nations like britain, germany, france can AFFORD to allocate huge sums on military defence because they do not have the same type of socio economic problems that nigeria has such as mass poverty, unemployment, inadequate housing, inadequate health care etc

Last time I checked, 56 countries (cutting across the global political and economic spectrum) had greater military expenditure than Nigeria - 6 of them in Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Moreover countries like Eritrea, Burundi, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Togo, Congo, Rwanda and Equatorial Guinea among many others have been known to have outspent 9ja militarily per GDP.  http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mil_exp_dol_fig_pergdp-expenditures-dollar-figure-per-gdp

Does it make sense to you that despite not being at war with any nation we allocate huge sums of money towards the purchase of military hardware - can you justify for me why this is important?

Sure. Justified by wisdom, common sense and learning from history.
A wise man in times of peace prepares for war - (Quintus Horatius Flaccus).

Funny!!!! but the jokes on you who does not seem to think that there is something wrong with spending huge sums of money on defence while 70% of the population live on $1 a day.

Or where senator takes home an average of N15 million a month (or $3,333 a day).

My point was this : nigeria has never fought or defeated an external enemy, neither has it been under threat of invasion therefore it makes no sense allocate huge sums of money on defence when that revenue could be put to better use.

Like paying jumbo salaries to politicians? The same politicians whose actions and inactions could lead to unrest and ultimately war?e.g. Laurent Gbagbo.

Aside from brutalising, maiming and killing innocent civilians within their own country  and committing genocide against the igbos during the nigeria/biafra civil war i do not recall any time that the nigerian military's "greatness"  or courage has ever actually been tested.

And now those brutalising, maiming and killing marauders are being led by an IGBO man.

Before you mention ECOMOG please remember that nigeria were performing a peace keeping role only and were not engaged in protracted combat also nigeria was instructed to send troops to liberia and sierra leone by the US who did not want to comitt their own troops to these areas, i would therefore describe the ECOMOG project as nigeria doing america's dirty work.

Can't remember 9ja being ECOMOG but rather in ECOMOG. It was a peace enforcement mission not peacekeeping as erroneously stated. Nigeria being instructed by the US?  Even the simple instruction she gave 9ja to release MKO and conduct free and fair elections went unheeded. . . . .  So much for dirty work. For enlightenment on ECOMOG, visit http://www.iss.co.za/pubs/monographs/no46/ecomog.html

have you ever heard of americans being massacred by rampaging lynch mobs on american soil with the american military standing helplessly by and doing nothing? It beggars beleif that you would compare a plane being flown into the world trade centre by alleged terrorists with a rampaging lynch mob. 

Try telling that to the indigenes of Odi, Gbamaratu and Zaki Biam where soldiers rampaged through their villages ra.ping, shooting, maiming and brutalising innocent unarmed civilians before burning entire villages to the ground, have you ever heard of western soldiers perpertrating such atrocities on their own people?

It is only in 9ja that rampaging lynch mobs would murder members of the military and police as was done in Odi and Zaki Biam and expect to get away with it. Next we would start hearing about the great injustice done to the kidnapping lord Osikankwu by the military.

I see  you are  yet to awaken from your deep slumber, okay this is how it works - when you run a dictatorship like nigeria you keep people in line by way of violence, terror and repression, that is what all those unmanned drones, militarised police , JTF , automatic weapons, tanks, are for - to kill, maim and brutalise any potential threat, to crush any form of opposition from the nigerian populace  - do you get it now?

Opposition like militants, kidnappers and Boko Haram sect? Nigeria a dictatorship?

Long gone

Couldn't stop giggling initially. Just another scene in this theatre of the absurd. Could it be that the NFF was trying to cut costs in order to pay for Amos Adamu's lawyer at the FIFA hearing?

First heard '9ja' mentioned back in 1993. I do not foresee it dying anytime soon - not with the way Dorathy unwittingly brought it to the fore (apologies to Reuben Abati). Her actions have now caused the phrase, 'agressive black sister' to take on a wholly new meaning.

Wetin concern fish with raincoat? The implication for 9ja (Dora, catch me if you can) would be to fight a senseless 19 - year civil war followed by peace conferences. We may then begin to make real progress. Meanwhile, the looters continue to loot while unwary NLers continue with their unrealistic conjectures and speculations.

Maybe from Niger Republic.
Maybe Tuareg.

Nice legs. Careful there, don't trip. . . . the high heels . . . . .

Failure

Unrest

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Simple. Thus, the planners and executors of that are responsible for his demise whether directly or indirectly.

leather

stars

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In your opinion I guess?

*MIND U, IF THERE'S ANY AFRICAN COUNTRY THAT LOVES OR IS CLOSEST TO NIGERIA, IT WILL BE GHANA.

That had been my erroneous thinking for almost a decade. I have since grown wiser.

History

The problem is the cumbersome  and unworkable Nigeria state and not the appointees.

No, not so fast. It's only a lazy workman that will blame his tools. Those very few achievers we love to celebrate (BRF almost always readily comes to mind), how were they able to succeed where others failed? It's rather the appointees who are to blame. If every appointee would just meditate on the national pledge (meaning vow), and put it to practice, we would not be in the doldrums.

IMO nobody is insinuating such. However, it's laughable that anyone would take IBB's words at face value. Integrity is not one of his attributes. There's more hope for a fool than anyone who's pinning his/her hopes on IBB's words.

Diaspora

Enlightenment.

Abagworo:
I will like to know which parts of the country you meant.

A word is enough for the wise. I used more than a word. The answer lies therein except of course, if you are otherwise, in which case your question has been answered below. . . .


[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=509015.msg6744049#msg6744049 date=1284365764]Pick up a history book, speak to older folk, or make use of Google; u'll get "which parts" he meant. . . . .
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MetalGong4:
Answer his question instead of trying to hide your ignorance.

I am not aware of any powers-that-be or demigods that I have to submit to. The language used in asking both questions is the type used by traders in Ogbete market. I should tell an unknown quantity my age and level of my knowledge? Apparently, wisdom is lacking somewhere.

Will the appointment of an Igbo Army Chief reduce the number of kidnappings in the East ?

Guess that's the responsibility of the police, not the army.

When will a woman be appointed as the army, airforce or naval chief?

Only a regular combatant could hold the position of COAS, CNS or CAS. So far, the terms and conditions of service do not provide for female combatants.

It is time for the East to rule!

If being COAS could be ascribed as such, what would the presidency then be called?

what is the sense in having a coas that is loyal to the president when a large number of his batallion does not regard him

This scenario is more likely to occur in a rebel army not in the Nigerian army.

. . .tell jonatan to QUIT wearng that Cowboy HAT

Anyone conversant with our culture would know that it's part of the Ijaw national dress. You could as well pass the message to all Ijaws.

It is time for us Igbos to have a much larger stake in the military.

I believe it's a national thing not an ethnic thing.

. . .prior to 1966, we Igbos were number 1 in Nigeria. During the Colonial Administration, the British favored us.

I thought the Northern (Fulani) traditional ruling classes were the favoured ones. Maybe the history textbooks I read were forgeries.

. . .The position of Ironsi as GOC of Nigeria armed forces can correctly be equated with the position of CDS; . . .It is an insult to Ironsi, Nidgbo and military parlance to equate the position of COAS to GOC of Nigerian armed forces.

Last time I checked, General Aguiyi-Ironsi was the first indigenous GOC of the NIGERIAN ARMY not Armed Forces. In the present hierarchy of the army, GOCs are subordinates to the COAS and Principal staff officers at the army headquarters. To the best of my knowledge, the first instance of CDS was during Shagari's presidency. The then serving COAS was elevated to a largely ceremonial CDS in other to pave way for a preferable candidate to become to  COAS.

By the way, when Ironsi was the GOC of Nigerian armed forces there were positions of Army Chief of Staff and Naval Chief Staff including IG of police.

I'd take that with a pinch of salt.

. . .the Army has always been in charge of CDS position

Admiral Ogohi had held the same position under OBJ

Granted infantry section of the Armed forces holds the bridgeheads, any branch of the military can initiate a coup d’état.

Na so e easy?

Deploying bridgade of gaurds is the routine role of the ADC.

What then is the role of the Guards Brigade commander who is superior to the ADC in rank?

The idea that the Chief of Army Staff weilds more power than the CDS is simply a hangover that has gotten stuck in our heads due to our experience from the military years.

With the situation in reality, that could be considered as false logic. CDS is a largely ceremonial appointment.

I dare say it seems to me that the Nigerian Army has even managed to move on from those dark ages better than the rest of the citizens.

Comments reserved.

This is a welcome development.

It sure is.

Our Eastern brother only a fellow Eastern can give him the protection he needs as goes against the North.

I thought GEJ is from the South-South. Am I losing touch with reality? What happened to 'One Nigeria'?

My prayer is that one day, and Igbo man would become the president of this great Nation

Amen. May he not be a typical president though.

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Lovely signature there.

Having admonished myself and fellow 9jans, let me take a closer look at black SAns (and those masquerading as pseudo-Nigerians by extension). I will forever repeat that our problem with SA lies with the blacks, not the whites. I have crossed paths with a number of white SAns of similar profession. Got along well with ALL of them. If the case of the black man is pathetic, the case of the black SAn is particularly pathetic. Having spent decades engrossed in fighting and subservience to the whites, they have generally lost touch with current socio-political trends. Abacha said same to Madiba back in 1994, though he attributed Madiba's case to long period of imprisonment. Globalisation must be a strange word to them.

Was it mere coincidence that Apartheid fell about the same time with the decline of the USSR? Do they think the decline of Apartheid was solely of their own doing? Who doesn't know that ALL of SA's development was brought about by the whites? The notable things the blacks have contributed to SA include violence, rioting, civil disturbances, drinking, sexcapades (especially in high places) and the latest trend, xenophobia. The US and EU host far higher numbers of black foreigners and the world has not stood still. And they are predominantly WHITE for crying out loud. Truth is, many black SAns lack the necessary skills for economic empowerment. Fighting for freedom and guerilla warfare may bring political freedom but these alone do not make doctors, engineers, professors etc. The whites who created all the economic opportunities in the first instance, realised that the majority of black SAns were square pegs in round holes (maybe due to the extended periods of subservience and low self-esteem) and threw the doors open for professionals from the continent  in the dying days of Apartheid. I remember one of my schoolmates back in 1993 moving to SA with his parents who were academicians, both having been offered appointments in a leading SA university.

It is obvious that our black SAn brethren had at first been morbidly fascinated, then envious and finally resentful of the intrepidity, temerity and audacity of these foreigners (especially 9jans) and their ability to look at the white man in the eye without cringing or saying 'Baas'. Sure enough, the foreigners may consider themselves smarter than the black SAns they meet because they (the foreigners) have always considered themselves equals among the whites. The fact that many black SAns do not fully appreciate the extent of the contributions of other countries to their cause is indicative of their unenviable degree of smartness. The earlier they begin to realise that the problem lies in and with them and not foreigners, the better it would be for them. By the way talking of 'our country' that black SAns proudly refer to, what became of those tinpot bantustans (homelands) the whites created for them (Transkei, Bophuthatswana, Venda and Ciskei among others)? Were they not originally intended to form the basis of independent black states away from the whites? The whites who came, saw and conquered them? The whites whom the black SAns call countrymen even when the date the first Dutch settler landed in their territory is in their history books? Yet the same blacks call other Africans foreigners. Why don't they first send the whites back to Europe? They should stop the misdirected acts of aggression to other Africans from whom they are separated through artificial boundaries created by of course, the white man.

Yes, we 9jans may be fools. At least there's hope for a fool who knows he is one. Unfortunately, our black SAn brethren don't even realise that they don't know.

Onlytruth:
How old are you? How long have you followed Nigeria's politics? Answer these first before you continue.

Another unfortunate case of cyber-egomania.

[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=508880.msg6722717#msg6722717 date=1283985566][color=deeppink]^^Are you alright?

Cause you really sound absurd.[/color][/quote]A-ok. I meant that we may be the cause of our own problems rather than others and should stop attributing them to others. Ignore them little boys and they'll most likely keep away from you. That method works even for unruly dogs. You may have just paid way too much attention to them. . . . .

Looking at it another way, obsession with minors could be considered absurd, if not an outright crime.

Pornodude,

I believe number of topics and/or replies posted by individuals could be very deceptive when it comes to showing the length of time such individuals have been members of the forum.