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Is that the game against barca at Stamford?

raumdeuter:
Another game. Do you see Terry's expert marking on the corner kick

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_5mLG5XIAASkAX.jpg

show terry's inefficiency na!

raumdeuter:
The whole 90mins were not highlights, These were the highlights watch it and tell how Terry did

Barcelona had almost 20 shots that night. That was how efficient Terry defence was. You better than Cech for that clean sheet and Cashley cole
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/matches/round=2000266/match=2007689/postmatch/report/

was it not from beckham's deadball deliveries that united strikers utilized to score?

fa cup is a prestigious football competition older than even the world cup so it counts

raumdeuter:
No Beckham didnt beast any final in 1999, We watched it and saw those who did, FA cup final? Are we talking about local cups here? Soon you will tell us because Terry beasted Carling Cup final was why he won

7 out of 90 minutes doesn't tell the whole story but i bet if you saw a single terry mistake in this match GIFS for full this place

raumdeuter:
Bros this is over 7mins video highlight of the game Tell me which minute Terry made a decisive defensive touch that you want me to make a gif of


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ZHlQtqBRc

but beckham and owen ''beasted'' in the 99 ucl and 2001 fa cup respective finals na!

raumdeuter:
I was watching Man Utd well that time and Beckahm wnt even be a top 4 player in that Man Utd team. Schmeichel, Stam Keane, Yorke were better never mind Giggs Scholes and Cole but it was Beckham who won based on what?




Michael Owen scored a late winner in a FA cup match that was what determined who won Balon dor. You sef see. Someone scored a late winner in a Coppa Italia, DFB Pokal or Copa del Rey is a reason to win Balon dor?

please post a GIF of terry's performance in the first leg of the 2012 semis against barcelona let us see how bad he was

raumdeuter:
Terry wasnt missing he was doing a good job escorting opposition attackers and roaming the field aimlessly
You think I am lying. See below Terry escorting Tevez from Half way yard until the Argentine got into the box and nodded the ball on target

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Another one. See that number 26 wandering aimlessly like a familiar spirit while his goal is threatened?
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terry was part of a rock solid defence that conceded the least goals in the 2004/2005 epl season, was part of a chelsea side that shut out the mighty barcelona 6 times, terry contributed immensely to his side winning the 2012 ucl ati bebe loo

raumdeuter:
Unlike Terry all the others have evidence of great performance on the field. Vidic was the main man in the defence that won Man Utd the CL in 2008, Canavaro was the rock that won Italy the world cup, Boateng was the main man in the German defence at the world cup final

Terry nko? Nothing, Moment of glory nothing, well he is a community organizer. I laff in Gurumaharaji

more qualified football experts in FIFA and UEFA have watched him and found him worthy time and time again cest fini!

raumdeuter:
Boateng has evidence of his performance on the field to back it up, Terry we have been searching for how many months now. Nothing to show.

Maybe you can help us, Show us Terry's performance on the field that merits the award

any top defender on his day can be molested. torres disgraced vidic, cannavaro was humiliated several times during his time at real madrid but like terry that does not take away the fact that they are great defenders

raumdeuter:
CR7 showed his quality on the field. He won in 2008 when he led Man Utd to CL and was CL top scorer, He won in 2014 when he led Madrid to La decima as top scorer. He will likely win this year as he led Madrid to another CL as top scorer

You see he shows his own value on the field

When Terry wins, he cant back it up on the field. Terry would be molested by Shabani Nonda, Morientes, Andre Ayew, Van persie and anyone who cares yet be carrying votes like PDP under Obasanjo

so you are confirming that boateng's awards/nominations are mere media hype and popularity votes sey?

raumdeuter:
Contradicting myself how? All those awards are media popularity contests.

Tell me how can a team filled with awardees like Terry Ferdinand, Cashley, Lampard Rooney, Gerrard, Beckham fail to make a single major semi final

Thats how you know those awards mean zilch

i'm really rooting for him to have a great career. like the dutch journalist said his movement and anticipation around the 18 yard box is exceptional. of all the players i've seen over the years he's the most similar to the great yekini. boy just needs some top tactician to take him under his wing, put an arm around his shoulders and give him confidence

TheSuperNerd:
Akin to a young Ruud boy? Hmmmm.....

I'm not giving up on you Awoniyi... I'm not... Come on, You got so much talent in you!!! Somehow, I believe you'll come good eventually. Just a matter of time...

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Dutch Journalist Wax Lyrical Over Liverpool
Loanee Awoniyi- He Is Like A Young Van Nistelrooy

https://owngoalnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/image-1.jpg

Liverpool loanee Taiwo Awoniyi has earned the
praises of respected Dutch journalist Jermain
Leitbig for his performance for his loan side NEC
Nijmegen even though he is yet to score.


19 year old Awoniyi joined the Dutch side on loan from Liverpool in the summer after a less fruitful spell with German side FSV Frankfurt, who were relegated to the third division at the end of last season.


Awoniyi who scored just once from 13 games for Freiburg is yet to get off the mark for NEC
Nijmegen but Jermain has seen enough to judge
his future, if he develops as expected.


So far he has played 8 games for NEC Nijmegen
and Jermain who has watched six of his games,
says he reminds him of legendary Dutch striker
Ruud Van Nistelrooy during his formative years.






Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/11/18/dutch-journalist-wax-lyrical-over-liverpool-loanee-awoniyi-he-is-like-a-young-van-nistelrooy/

yeah some commentators even informed ones like solace chukwu don't rate ekong that much and i wonder why because for someone of his age to be voted into team of the season in a tough league like norway's is not beans. yes he's not the finished article but i'm sure a better league and keener competition will fine tune his skills.

my guy sometimes it baffles me how these sports journalists will be seeking expert opinion from people who never cut it and then asking them to pass judgment on a player who's level they can only dream of reaching

TheSuperNerd:
Like seriously.... Looollll I wonder why they took Joshua Daniel so seriously. Truth is this just shows that sometimes no matter how good you do, if someone dont rate you, then they dont.

I'm still surprised Ekong has a lotta haters... Looolll

Terry has been acknowledged by FIFA, UEFA, coaches and his fellow players not once, not twice

he doesn't need your kurukere criteria to prove his greatness QED!

raumdeuter:
Ballack and Zidane got his team to the finals, Can we say the same for Terry? He let his team down when they were down at Nou camp

Zidane was already a legend as a result of 1998 and 2002 CL final. What of Terry which final can he point to? Oh I remember Carling cup

but did ballack win anything? no shikena!

zidane got himself stupidly sent off therefore sabotaging his french team in the 2006 world cup finals so your point of terry getting sent off is mute.

you mention terry's sending off in the 2nd leg but ignore terry's contributions in stopping messi and co in the first leg.

raumdeuter:
Contribution like getting sent off vs Barcelona with about 60mins left to play. In those finals Ballack actually played his part. He took the team to the world cup final all through the quarter and semi. Him missing the 2002 final for Germany was a reason for the tepid display of his country

Same with Leverkusen he destroyed Liverpool and Man Utd to get the team to the final vs a superior Galactico madrid

are we at the same level of those 'powerhouses' you mentioned? those countries have club sides with well run academies where you have u10, u13, u15, u16 teams so it will be easier to monitor and gather such players to play such competitions but us with our limited funding and scoop of operations have to maximize any small opportunities we have to give our youth players exposure.

to answer your question i know for a fact that the english don't usually send their best youth players to competitions like u17, u20 world cup because they would be too busy with their clubsides so their fa would send other youngsters to get exposure. i would check it out but i remember the spaniards winning one u20 euro tournament. when it was time for the main world cup they sent their u19 team

joseph1013:
You know you've not answered my question, right? Name one football powerhouse who use this kind of approach to develop their talents; countries who go for competitions and line up U15 to play Champion-league level footballers for exposure. I just need one country! I will accept your theory if you can mention that country

without terry's key contributions Chelsea won't have gotten to any finals

your beef against terry is like saying because michael ballack was a serial failure with germany and leverkusen in multiple finals he's rubbish

raumdeuter:
What did he do on the field, Its just like Patience Jonathan saying she has PhD from UNILAG. We know those who worked for their PhD and those who were just dashed

What did Patience write her PhD thesis on? She has award from UNILAG
What did Terry do in any major final? He has award from UEFA and FIFA

Its just like Saying Kollington Ayinla is also a General so he is equal to Buhari or Buratai who actually fought a war and got his own General

bro the only reason you are criticizing this team is because of the scandalous losses they got. if they had gotten decent results we won't be having this conversation. this tournament was a friendly meant for experimentation. i don't fault the wisdom in the nff giving the u17s that failed to qualify a chance at showcasing their talents since they will be most likely be forgotten after all this. who knows if we would be discovering a few hidden gems in their midst that we won't ordinarily have looked at because they failed at u17 level. you would probably argue that we should have sent them osimhen and kelechi nwakali's set but those guys by winning the last u17 world cup have exposed themselves to the world and some of them have gotten/are getting good contracts out of it.

joseph1013:
What experience are you two talking about? Have you ever seen a football powerhouse parade U15 boys against professional footballers (playing in the Champions league) in any competition before? Just name one!

guys i'm with goodjoe on this the experience will be invaluable to these youngsters. better to chop 8-1, 3-0 now and become world beaters tomorrow than win convincingly deceiving ourselves that we have arrived whereas we are using ''oldsters'' who have less room for improvement

thanks bro. just my humble thoughts on the game

tbaba1234:
One of the best analysis of the game...

my thoughts on the match. the result didn't flatter us as we played a solid tactical game against a very good team filled with talented players. we showed strength and concentration during the moments we were under pressure from the algerians and made sure we took our chances when we were on top of them.

players who stood out for me were etebo, moses, mikel, balogun and echeijile. etebo brought another side of his game that wowed me. his tireless running, aggression and level headedness really helped in winning the midfield battle against the algerians for most of the match. definitely a starter. the good thing about him is he can play a lot of positions. if we are going for a more attacking setup he can be pushed further forward but in my opinion his energy in the middle of the park is invaluable. moses finally showed what i've been expecting of him all this time. fast direct running that will always destabilize opponents forcing mistakes out of them while giving cover to his fullback. by far his best match in the green white green. to me this is victor moses at the near peak of his powers. hope moses simon was taking notes on the bench because that's the kind of wing play we want from him. mikel brought his A game. was unmovable in possession. also brought calmness and leadership especially when we were under algerian pressure. took his goal well. pity he gassed out and had to be subbed. real captain's performance. balogun was just imperious. his positioning was always spot on. strong in the tackle and decisive when it mattered most. loved how he took charge of the defence as that saw us through our tough moments. elderson too was good, chased mahrez away from his wing and joined attack as much as he could. was a perfect foil for the rampaging victor moses.

now to the above average, poor performers. iheanacho's touches sometimes let him down but he worked hard for the team. was always available as an attacking outlet. for me it's too soon to say the top 9 role he was deployed in was a failed experiment. i agree he seems to flourish more in a ss role but this was his first match for the super eagles in that role. with more games and better understanding he could pull it of. onazi was more disciplined and he gave the ball away a lot less but his positioning is still a sour point with me. i remember one incident in the first half when brahimi got hold of the ball in the midfield onazi was caught out of position. before he could make up ground to catch him brahimi was already in our 18. thank God they didn't utilize that opportunity. for the algerians goal etebo chased down mahrez but onazi wasn't quick enough to offer support. by the time mahrez wriggled his way from etebo's attention onazi should have been closing him down but he allowed mahrez to easily find bentaleb who picked his spot without much hassle. onazi gave his best no question but is his best good enough? especially as we have other players now like ndidi, esiti etc who can play that role. i can understand rohr playing onazi for now because of his experience and years of partnership with mikel in the midfield but if he doesn't improve his positional marking then his place in the starting xi might be in jeopardy. ekong partnered balogun very well was a bit jittery in tense moments but was overall solid. iwobi not his best game by his high standard. like his uncle jayjay used to do he played to the gallery way too much. didn't provide cover for his fullback enough of the time. i guess his audacious rainbow flick kind of covered up his deficiencies. he can do better. omeruo started well but brahimi happened to him. struggled to keep up. the injury he sustained saved his blushes. akpeyi for an experienced goalkeeper it's annoying the kind of shaky and nervous performances he now churns out. i remember during one of the algerian attacking forays he was supposed to come out to punch the ball somehow he missed it and punched balogun instead. thankfully rohr has started looking for other alternatives because i seriously doubt he will start in goal for us again. ndidi came in and helped restore our midfield dominance. should be a starter in my opinion. shehu came and looked solid. musa's pace and directness really gingered our attack.

going forward we expect rohr to find more options for the right and left fullback positions. hopefully musa mohammed gets a decent club so he can finally get some playing time and also tyronne commits to nigeria. success, osimhen, kayode etc to come in and challenge for that number 9 role. what really gladdens my heart is that we are not yet at full power and we are playing this kind of exhilarating football. this looks ominous for the rest of africa. also towards our next match against cameroon let's not get cocky. they are formidable opponents especially against us. they will be desperate to bring out anything within their arsenal to stop us both legal and illegal. let us all remain vigilant. happy rohr has told them the job is not done. let's continue to pray for the players to remain focused, calm and injury free. pray the rohr led technical crew remains united and controversy free so they can deliver the world cup ticket to russia 2018.

#LETSGOSUPEREAGLES

these algerians can lie for planet earth o! which kain ruler them take draw their ''straight'' line? awon onijibiti

terzurum5:
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Algerians Launch Petition To Stop Gassama From Officiating Games Over Goal Scored By Mikel
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An online petition set up by an agitated fan of the Algeria national team aimed at preventing Gambian referee Bakary Papa Gassama has gathered momentum, with over 100 people putting their name to it.


The 37 year old is allowed John Obi Mikel goal, which was seemingly scored from an offside position to stand as Nigeria secure a 3-1 win over Algeria in the CAF 2018 World Cup qualifiers.


Coach of Algeria Georges Leekens has narrowed his side defeat to that second goal scored by Mikel few minute to the half time break, as it somehow killed the game off as a contest after 45 minutes.


Video replays analyzed by soccer experts in Algeria proved, Mikel was indeed offside when he scored the second goal for Nigeria and it has lead to the online petition.


They want FIFA to ban Gassama from games in the World Cup 2018 qualifiers particularly games against them as they are yet to win a game he has handled.

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Congratulations everyone boys did us proud. Victor Moses beast mode, Balogun our own BFG, Mikel not general FIELD MARSHAL, Etebo Duracell battery long lasting, Elderson came to the party, akpeyi thanks for your service to the nation now GERRAHIA MEN!, everyone else good shift put in.

Will do a more comprehensive analysis later for now let's CELEBRATE!

Goodjoe, supernerd, Icon, Mikael, tbaba, safarigirl and anyone else I forgot to mention YOU ALL ROCK!!!

Thank GOD!!!!

seems from the list of probables that elderson has fallen out of favour.

the algerians speculated line-up and formation confirms my earlier suspicion that they will adopt a more offensive approach especially in the 1st half. well will know for sure tomorrow.

please any knowledgeable person in house could you educate us on the benefits, risks of the aforementioned formation 3-4-3, 4-3-2-1 in connection to how it will be effective against the algerians.

a day to D-day can't wait!

big twale to mikel i will admit i'm not his greatest fan but this recent revelation by rohr that he put his country first to the potential detriment of his club career really wowed me. now that's a legend and true captain. to think he did that to come and face the rubbish the sports ministry/nff served up during the olympics men enough respect to him. it might be early days but i think he will turn out to be one of the best captains the super eagles ever had.

if there's anyone on this thread going to the uyo stadium tomorrow i appeal to you and the other fans to give the SE unconditional support before, during and after the match. we are facing a formidable opponent so the team needs us the 12th man to give them every encouragement they need. make the uyo stadium an intimidating, noisy cauldron that will intimidate the algerians. please no booing of our super eagles or cheering of the algerians. in the words of the incomparable bette milder let's be the wind beneath our eagles wings.

#FLYSUPEREAGLES

for once i'm happy that the nff is thinking of the future and not instant gratification of win now now. yes they have lost two matches, yes the loss to england by that scoreline was embarrassing but the lessons learnt and experience gained will be invaluable to them in the future

hi sorry haven't been on this thread for a while just seeing this.

O se is a yoruba (one of the major tribes in nigeria) word meaning thanks/thank you.

in the context you want to use it in ''thank you'' will suffice because O se isn't necessarily part of our pidgin it's just a borrowed word that we yorubas tend to incorporate in the pidgin we speak.

so you can write it this way ''thank you my G'' G meaning Guy. in this context you're saying ''thanks dude'' or ''thank you my homey'''

jhswe:
A question for you all! There is a person in the novel who says "O se!" when she receives a compliment that I think she wanted to hear. I don't want to translate it, but "O se!" means "Oh look!" in Swedish, so I have to change it somehow.

Could "O se baba!" be used in that context? Or is there an equivalent expression that I could use instead?


By the way: the novel that I'm working on (and trying to get published eventually) is Blackass by A. Igoni Barrett.

hi jhswe how's your write up coming along? good i hope

jhswe:
I've been to the continent at least (Egypt)



I hope so ... Feel free to email me, by the way, as it would be fun to have a chat over skype sometime!

All the best!

hi house eku trump o

@safarigirl thanks for the info

seems rohr is thinking of starting etebo but in what role AMF?, SS? the times i have seen etebo his attacking forays from midfield have always stood him out. don't know if he can operate in an advanced attacking position with alot of attention from opposition defenders.

i don't if rohr also is interested in playing shehu abdullahi in the LB. he's decent going up and down the flanks but i don't know how good his left foot is.

@supernerd yeah it's kinda defensive but i'm sure there's enough attacking potential to do damage to the algerians

this one alampasu is shining in training will rohr pick him hmmm fingers crossed

Hi when I click on the thumbs up icon it goes to Facebook what next?

safarigirl:
Thank you

yes ideally that's the way to go but i'm not yet hundred percent convinced that we have reached the stage where we can impose our game on strong opponents like algeria and absolutely blitz them. anyway whichever approach rohr decides to deploy against the algerians i'm fully in support. i trust his tactical acumen

TheGoodJoe:
Not doubting your approach but I am now in a Brave school of thought as regards the game. In our two games under Rohr, we played with a brave attacking style and I think that is the way to go.

Personal opinion.

i want to err on the side of caution. the algerians have good players that can hurt us. i trust mikel to play an advanced role to join the attack. don't forget the algerians will be coming desperate for a win so we shouldn't expect a laid back approach. i believe once we have neutralized their attacking forays and hopefully scored a goal or two we can then bring in the subs to finish them off.

TheGoodJoe:

Solid set up but it it looks too defensive. I think we need a more attacking set up.

hope the rohr led technical crew impresses on the players not to get complacent just because we are hearing that the algerians are getting injuries here and there. don't understand why etebo and alampasu are coming in late. for young players that want to make an impression this is simply not good enough. hope it's not that elderson is carrying a knock.

my preliminary line-up all things being equal will be

1. Akpeyi 2. Omeruo 3. Elderson (if fit) 4. Ekong 5. Balogun 6. Ndidi 7. Onazi 8. Mikel 9. victor moses 10. iwobi 11. iheanacho

Simon Moses, Musa and Ideye to come in when in need of reinforcements