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Oh now I understand. so i shud be reading thru the non-accredited side. cool. how about if ur masters is accredited?

NNBB2012:
If you obtained your degree in Nigeria it means your qualification is not accredited. It means you have to submit employer reference letter.

I've been going thru the booklet n theres something thats not clear to me. if ur qualification is accredited,does that prevent u from sending documentary evidence of employment? cos i only saw this under non-accredited qualifications.

NNBB2012:
CDR means Competency Demonstration Report. You need to submit this alongside with other documents required by Engineers Australia if you have unaccredited Engineering degree. Refer to my previous posts on the booklet or google Engineers Australia website.

ok thx...i'll start reading it right away to know all i need to gather

NNBB2012:
CDR means Competency Demonstration Report. You need to submit this alongside with other documents required by Engineers Australia if you have unaccredited Engineering degree. Refer to my previous posts on the booklet or google Engineers Australia website.

ok thank u very much. thats comforting to know

bellong:
It will serve as an evidence of paid salary in lieu of payslip.

ok thx. the account statement is just to show i have a job n not to know how much is in it right? cos i heard u dont need to show an account statement for 189

bellong:
It is one of their sources of revenue generation. The schools have yearly target set by the respective governments controlling them.



If they do pay you directly to your bank account, the statement will suffix.

ok thats helpful. i know i shudnt ask but whats CDR pls

NNBB2012:
You could use your IT work experience as part of your CDR for assessment purpose but it won't count towards your work experience for the purpose of immigration points. It has to be post qualification experience.

thx so much.my exp is after my msc though so whether i tender the msc or not it shoudnt affect the exp years according to the gurus.one more question...the job i have right now doesnt give pay slips so what do i do in this case?

ohioilserve:
Kk...your letter of appointment, payslip is enuf...a recent payslip,and d first payslip maybe.
But the most important is your letter. Remember its relevant exp o! They have a service now that can help determine whether an exp is relevant. Exp MUST also be after you last qualification. You have bin following and know the showing Msc or no Msc technicality.

bossladymo1 welcome back...I'm so glad

this is really informative n helpful...does this mean that industrial training in school counts for experience?

NNBB2012:
I like people who speak frankly like you. I have had the cause to stop someone who was about investing his money in Msc route here when he is more than enough qualify for PR. He listened to me and followed the PR process and today he is here in Australia with a job. He is ever grateful that I did that.

If you have mind of studying here in Australia with the hope of staying back, you have to do at least 2yrs minimum Bsc. Your occupation has to be on the list for you to be eligible for Post graduate visa. The truth is , even with the post graduate visa, there is no guarantee that you will get the job that will help you to gain experience so that you can apply for PR. After the expiration of your post graduate visa, you have to leave the country except you jump on another course or you marry a PR/Citizen. And staying 10yrs in Australia does not automatically translate to PR. It is not given based on years of staying. It is either through skilled path, family/spouse route, Business/Investors or Refugee path. No other way please. Even refugees path is not easy these days.

My advise will be, go for PR if you are eligible. And if not, it had better to gain experience overseas than to think you could possibly gain experience here. It is really hard.

A sound of warning to people who might be coming here to study and that want to stay back. Kindly check if your course is accredited. Particularly people that want to study Msc degrees. It is not all courses that are accredited. For example, if you studied Geology in Nigeria without experience and you came here to do Petroleum Engineering thinking that you will be assessed by Engineers Australia, I'm sorry to let you know that it is not accredited. The implication is that your first degree will still be considered and since your first degree is not in Engineering, it won't fly. Generally, accreditation is done at BSc level except where your first degree is not equivalent to First degree in Australia. In that case, your Msc in the same course will be considered. These are bitter truths. I know people who happened to go back after their studies. Think twice before you invest.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR ENGINEERS

I have an Australian postgraduate engineering degree, but my undergraduate degree is from overseas. Can I use my postgraduate degree from Australia as the basis for my qualification assessment application?

The assessment is based primarily on your undergraduate degree and your demonstrated competencies. Your postgraduate degree will be taken into account in that it contributes to your engineering competencies. However, a non-accredited Australian postgraduate degree alone will not meet the academic requirement to confer recognition in Australia.
Similarly a non-accredited Australian postgraduate degree on top of an overseas qualification will not provide automatic recognition in a higher occupational category. You will still have to apply for a formal assessment of your combined qualifications.
Only a few Australian post graduate qualifications are fully accredited and would grant eligibility for an assessment under the Accredited Australian Engineering Qualifications Pathway.
Please refer to the list of accredited courses available on our website.
I have limited engineering experience. Can I still apply for an assessment of my qualifications?
Yes, you can still apply. It is possible for you to demonstrate the competencies by referring to your undergraduate professional engineering qualifications and the project/work experience elements of your academic study. Applicants may however find writing the career episodes more challenging without workplace experience from which to evidence the competencies.
Please note that you must provide a certificate copy of an employer reference letter if you have relevant experience of 12 month or more, or if the work experience provides a basis for a Career Episode.
Will you accept the TOEFL, or the Pearsons Test of English (PTE) in lieu of the IELTS
No. For the Migration Skills Assessment with Engineers Australia, you will need to submit an IELTS test result form with a score of 6 in each of the 4 modules. Alternative English Tests will not be accepted.
I have an accredited qualification, but I would rather be assessed in a different discipline than the one on my degree. What can I do?
Under the accredited qualifications pathway, the outcome is given in accordance to the discipline of your degree. If the discipline does not match the content of your degree (for example, Electrical Engineering degrees focusing on Electronics Engineering), then a close analyse of the transcript will determine the appropriate occupation.
If you would rather be assessed in a different discipline, then you can apply via the Competency Demonstration Report pathway. Note however that there is no guarantee that you would be successful in getting the outcome you desire as the qualification has to contain the necessary underpinning knowledge in the discipline you are seeking assessment for.
am applying for migration to or permanent residency in Australia and need to have my engineering qualifications assessed. What do I need to do?
The first step is to read the Migration Skills Assessment Booklet to determine under which pathway you should apply. The booklet and application forms are available from the website

thx for getting back to me...i wnt u to pls tell me what u sent to engineers australia to prove ur work exp during ur assessment. i'm so curious cos i'm also a petroleum engineer. what docs did u send them pls.

ohioilserve:
Hello Chukdee...saw ur pm,wats up?

AMEN!!!!

lilspiceyy:
Goodnews awaits us in part 2. We will testify IJN

not scared per say but for now i dont have the required years of exp. so getting a positive assessment for it will be difficult. n 189 is all about what u have to bring to the Australian table.

ferdimako:
y r u scared of 189?

ok thats much better. great work

justwise:
Lets start part 2 of this thread as part 1 has reached 400 pages and too long to read through.

See part 1 here for references https://www.nairaland.com/1032530/general-australian-visa-enquiries

Thank you.

thats the main p...to get a job without being there n u dont have a PR yet. thats y i still feel that 189 is the best. with its own buts cos I'm not yet fully qualified.

ferdimako:
Yeah...so how do u go abt getting the job?

yes its on the csol...like i checked western australia n its there...but they have conditions cos my occupation is on schedule 2 so i need to have a job offer first n some other criteria.

ferdimako:
is ur occupation on csol? if yes, do the English test and assessment. then get to d state for nomination. u have to know d states or territories that are sponsoring and if there are other requirement... like some will demand ur work experience must postqualification.

ok...thats what i meant by i need to first fill an eoi stating that its under 190 right? ok i understand it now.i need to first cross the assessing hurdle

ferdimako:
eoi

sorry profiles where? where do i need to create a profile?

ferdimako:
EOI is the last place...u have to be nominated by the state or territory first. They said sometimes employers look at profiles and ask of u..I'm not sure of this.

I'm telling u. no thx to one douchebag. but can u help answer my confusion

mrnilobrawn:
The person u quoted has deactivated her account....now u are more screwed..

Pls dont talk to bossladymo like that. she doesnt deserve it. u made the mistake initially by talking the way u did so take everything everyone says as a result of it as penance. u dont have to be claiming ur right here so let it go. if they talk about it n stress it dont keep talking back cos ur only proving that ur really rude. be matured n keep quiet. these r people helping other people they've never met. so pls....

dexterinc2003:
You obviously have some serious issue maam,i know i cant impress every1 but yours is just a funny case,your profile history rates you as a reasonable person,but your persistence on not letting it go even when every1 has, shows there is more to your 'niceness' charade.
If you have a problem with forgiving ppl that 'offended' you,let it be personal,quote me instead like an elite would and stop hiding behind other ppl's comment...i still believe there is a reasonable aspect tucked somewhere in your personality,so ease up,and live and lets live,there is only 1 God,and its not you...kilode!!!

Thx but another thing is confusing me. it seems that u need to state the type of visa ur applying for before u submit eoi...which means that if u submit for 190 n the state doesnt then nominate u ur screwed. cos their requirements r wicked.

Yeap. A state can nominate you, if your EOI meets their requirements. Some states require work experience, some don't. But you need work experience to get a positive assessment in the first place

ok thx...that means EA holds all the cards on this one...thx alot

ferdimako:
No single answer...deal with ur assessing authority, read up on their site or from other people that have gone before you.

but bossladymo, i tot that 190 is for those nominated...now i'm confused. cos if this 190 doesnt need experince like that its ripe for me. pls clarify

bossladyMo:
Check if electrical engr is on the list. If it is, assess your BSc alone, get at least a 10 in ielts, and you would qualify for a 190. If you chose to claim your work exp as points, then you would qualify for a 189.

If you don't have enough employment evidence to back up your work experience, just kukuma siddon with your 190.

thats very helpful...thanks alot. so its experience i need to gather the remaining points i need. so u uploaded reference letters for experience right?

ohioilserve:
30 for Age, 10 for IELTS, 15 for qualification and 10 for experience you get assessed with your Bachelors . So no worries....it says at least a bachelors gives 15 points

pls dont be offended but can u tell me what scored these points for u. I'm a petroleum engineer too but didnt do my masters in petroleum engineering.

ohioilserve:
Thanks man. Petroleum Engr, my Claim na 65 points, submitted EOI on 4th, they invited me 6days later on the 10th....me self fear....come they look am some how !

theres a place on auusie immigration site (www.immi.gov.au) that shows the occupation list...then u can see all u need to know

JesusDWay:
Hi Everyone,

I know a little that the present system being used by Canada for their Federal immigration programmes are little designed after the Australian type but don't know how much similarity they really have. Can anyone kindly let me know if there are specific professions that are catered for in Australia's immigration programme or anyone with a post-secondary qualification and some years work experience can apply, specifically administrative work experience?

I've been on their site but haven't gotten much out of it yet.

Thank you

thx alot man. I'm just gathering up facts before I act. I'll check with my assessing body

ferdimako:
No single answer...deal with ur assessing authority, read up on their site or from other people that have gone before you.

If I get a superior english proficiency...can I use my B.eng n M.sc(not related to my B.eng) with some certifications I have gotten n not enough work experience to apply for 189?

wow that was God speeding up the whole process for u. that was really fast for both visas.

malmo:
my wife applied along with our kids around february.They left for AU in March, and I applied 4th May and granted 15th.It is SVP visa.

r u applying for the skilled independent permanent residence visa?

scrollmeout:
Yes I do, to get 10 pints for proficient English.

werent u given a 2yrs visa before leaving?

ugosimba:
Beautiful tread I must say.pls pardon me am going to be lengthy. I wld need ur candid advice. I got a B1/B2 visa after two painful refusal sometime in July 2013 although I was a month pregnant and fully aware. The V.O asked if I wld seek medical attention and I said NO, I was so scared if I said YES that I wld b denied again.i heard the golden words "PICK UP UR VISA IN 2 DAYS My destination at the point of the interview was Pennsylvania but I went to Los Angeles b cos I left in Dec and it was so cold to go to that part of the states. I left wit 2 kids (5 yr & 2yr).it was so stressful I must say . EXTREMELY.at the POE I was asked y I was in the U
S and I said for Christmas and was stamped in for 6 months.L.A is extremely expensive I rented an apartment, put my kids in a day care where I paid $250 weekly. Had my baby in march Dr's fee $4,500, hospital $5,000+epidural and a 3 days stay.but my baby was sent to the NICU for one week for an infection where a bill of $48,000 was given. But was given an 81% discount and ended up paying $8,450.90. (I don't wish anyone that NICU experience)i have cleared all payment. My question is my visa expires in July and i want to get it right this time.am i qualified for drop box.if yes do i include all proof of payment. I learnt that on a 2 year visa (not sure) that one has to use it more than once to qualify. I intend travelling with my last baby (the Americana) for two weeks which line do I queue up in at POE. I wish I had know about this thread earlier, I wouldn't have lied at all.

ur not submitting for a particular vacancy like the guy said. this is what u call an unsolicited application. u didnt see the first post talking about the mail room. if u can still go back again tmr ask to be allowed to go to the mail room. no vacancy.

bomafelix:
Or don't you think your bothers need to know the exact vacancy they are submiting their C.Vs for? So at least we can tailor our C.Vs appropriately. Like removing some experience not needed for the kind of available vacancy. C.Vs are improved base on the job you are aplying for.

So my brother asking you some questions is not to get you angry but to help us further, since we do not know what you know. I am sure you know whats up and was guided by the main source that gave you the submision info. Please just clear us a bit, i beg! I Will be going back there tomorrow.

thank you so much...I'll do just that

bossladyMo:
A relative can sponsor your 489 visa. You should read up on the immi site. Just Google 489 family sponsored. But you need to have family in certain designated areas.