Donarozzi:


It looks like "Chi" exists in all Igbo dialects, and in the original Agbor dialect, it is pronounced "Ki". That is, the letter "k" is sometimes a variant of "ch" in Agbor dialect. Agbor people are proud of their Igbo ancestry and Igbo heritage.

http://ifedubatochukwu..com/2015/07/igbo-rising-agbor-people-are-part-of.html

http://people.bu.edu/manfredi/Iduuwe.History.pdf

You want to teach me my language and tell me what me and my people are proud of?

BeeBeeOoh:



http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/buhari-warns-biafra-agitators-n-delta-militants/152130.html#bgDbB1L8Y67zMtFq.99

this man is dumb? can't there be a way to resolve this without war? asking for biafra is equal to asking for war?

histemple:


An average non-Anioma Deltan does not see them as belonging to the same state.
They don't share the same culture.
The Anioma's speak Igbo and have the same culture.
The Anioma people have a local government (Ogbaru LGA) in Anambra.

Infact other Deltans are very angry that Asaba was chosen as the state capital.

This is totally wrong. Anioma share many cultures with other Delta ethnic groups. stop saying what you don't know. apart from language, anioma culture is much more closer to Edo, including U r hobo and other Delta ethnics than igbo

MansaPiye:
As they say.. Story for the gods. Cultural influence is not political influence. American influence is global so while a Chinese city might copy an American one, it doesn't mean that America has any political influence in the area, the Chinese can decide to ban all that American influence like the Japanese did before the Meji restoration.
The Igbos in the Delta are politically influence by Nri, that is why they have Obi and Igwe. That is why they have Nze Na Ozo and pay homage to where the ofo of Igbos come from which is Igbo land. Rulers love the trappings of power and glory, they all heard of Bini and its courts. Some even visited and invited some Binis to add prestige to their royal courts the same way a Chinese company hires white Americans to add prestige to their company. Some went as far as copying the Royal regalias of the Bini. But did Bini have any political influence no. The Ekumeku fighters in Anioma carried on fighting the British long after Bini has surrendered. They were fighting to maintain their independence. If they were under some sort of Bini hegemony, they would surrendered too. In places where Bini had political influence you don't need to look hard to see it. In Anioma, they speak Igbo and observe very important Igbo customs with Nri written all over it not Edo. Nri itself is far older than Bini.
Since the Igbos had a sophisticated religious system and renounced priests, it is possible that Nri priests were invited to Bini by ambitious Kings. And when their services were no longer needed, they returned back to the east and the ambitious priests among them like Eze Chima settled in a new place and introduced some of what he saw in the courts of Bini in his own court while retaining his lgbo language and Nri culture like Nze Na Ozo which is practiced from Onitsha to Agbor and many other Igbo speaking settlements.

Agbor practice Nze na ofo and pay homage to where the ofo came from? even using the ekumeku war to disprove bini Anioma relationship? very lame logic

Donarozzi:


chukzyblingz, perhaps you are not from Agbor. Could it be that you are just pretending to be from Agbor only to cause confusion? Agbor is part of Igboland, and Agbor people are Igbo people. The whole of Ika areas of Anioma are pure Igbo people. There is no doubt that there are Benin influences, especially around Agbor. Let me make this point very clear: In terms of culture and language, the Benin influence found in Ika areas is mainly around Agbor, while the rest of Ika are even more Igbo than many Igbo communities in the East.

Some centuries ago, people from Benin migrated into Agbor. Some of these Benin migrants came by force, waging war against the original Igbo inhabitants of Agbor. Some came by choice, and they were given lands to settle. Over the years, these Benin migrants have become citizens of Agbor, and by extension, citizens of Igboland. The Benin migrants brought many aspects of Benin culture into Agbor, but they could not obliterate the original Igbo culture and language of Agbor because, though they were numerous, their population was small compared to the original Igbo inhabitants of Agbor.

Agbor was founded on "Ofo", a universal Igbo emblem that exists in all Igbo communities. Ofo is also associated with "Ani" because the Ofo of the community is usually held by the "Eze Ani". Both "Ofo" and "Ani" exist in Agbor from time immemorial, and these cultural concepts and emblems were not borrowed; rather, they were the very core foundation on which Agbor was founded, because Agbor has always been Igbo right from the beginning. Till today, the Ofo Ani ("Ofo Ali" ) of Agbor still exists, and the elders of Agbor can enlighten you more.

The first Eze of Agbor was Eboka, an authentic Igbo name meaning "the community is greater [than a single individual]". The concept of Chi, Mmuo, Nze na Ozo title system (Orinzere/Olinzele), Okpara (Diokpa) community head, Obi/Eze/Dei leadership, the four market days Eke, Orie, Afo, Nkwo, the deities Ani, Ikenga, Ifejioku, are all indigenous in Agbor, and these are authentic Igbo cultural patterns. However, some other cultural concepts have been imported by Edo/Benin migrants recently. Despite some migrations from Benin, Agbor completely retains its original Igbo core and remains a part of Igboland. As the name of the first Eze of Agbor reminds you, the entire Igbo community as a whole is greater than what a single Igbo individual thinks of his origin.

clap for yourself. like I said before, Igbo people think they know too much. they even think they know you better than yourself. I can point out many lies and some you deliberately or ignorantly blew out of proportion in your post but I'm very busy and I don't have the time to respond to your long post. once again clap for yourself. you're doing a good job but it doesn't change what an average ika man believe he is. being ika is a mindset. we have our worldview and beliefs and it's totally different from igbo.

naijacampu:
What people fail to realize is that referendum when due will be conducted per tribes not States and Regions. Nigerian States creation is totally messed up.
There are Igbos in the South East, South South, and North Central and none of them will be left behind.
I am not against anyone claiming Bini or those that fall from the sky, those from Bini are free to reunite with their kits and kins in Bini and those that fall from the sky will be chased/flogged back to their planet.
I am very proud of my Igbo heritage, will live and die for my motherland.

Igbos don't have a stake in a place where 99% say and believe they're not Igbo and others where 90% say and believe they're not Igbo . Igbos are great dreamers and they're very good at propaganda. coming on Nairaland to say majority of Anioma people accept being Igbos doesn't change the fact on ground. I'm marveled by the kind of ignorance about Anioma that's being displayed by Igbos on this forum.

Centyellow:
Pls sir I want to know according to the "act" or law in ika north-East. Who inherits a man's property when he dies without a will, survived by wife, two boys, two girls. Pls reply me

Property is not shared to women in Ikaland but there might be an exception to this. it depends on the family, the extended family (ebon) or the clan in question. But generally women don't inherit fathers property.

Damsonkc:
I do not give a flying f**k about Biafra or ND Republic or the like. Ordinarily, I wouldn't have commented on this thread but I wanted to clear out some wrong notions. Mr. Agbor man, in all of Abioma (Good land in Igbo language) only Kwale has oil. Agbor has no oil though both of them are in IGBOLAND. In Agbor, they speak a distinct variety of the Igbo language. There is mutual intelligibility between the Igbo in Agbor and the one in Ikwerre and the rest of Igboland. The indigenous people of Anioma and Ikwerre are Igbos. Go and study history. No one is forcing anyone to be anything. Funnily enough, the Efik and Ibibio see the Igbo as a closer kin than they see the Urhobos, Isokos or Ijaws. The people of the present day Akwa Ibom suffered as much as the Igbos in the old Biafra. Ask the average Akwa Ibom man. If you have a referendum, I am sure the Ibibio and the Efik and the Ogoja will rather go with the Igbos than go with the Ijaws.

Back to the question on the thread. Niger Delta is merely a name given to oil producing states. Imo, Abia and Ondo are oil producing states. The SS is different from the ND although all the SS fall into the ND. Now, go back a little further and you will even see that the SS is merely a political creation to divide the region that led a rebellion against the state. Rivers, Akwa Ibom and some part of Delta State are geographically, and culturally part of Eastern Nigeria . There are no clear cut geographical demarcation between them. You can go to Imo from Rivers in less than 10 minutes. A community in Abia speaks Ibibio. Some communities in Akwa Ibom speak Igbo. The question of who is Igbo is irrelevant for now. What the SS and the SE need is to put their heads together and fight for the development of their lands and better treatment for their people. If they can get said perks in Nigeria, fine. If they can get it in Biafra or any other thing, I honestly don't care. I am an Igbo man, born in the North, raised in the North and East, educated in the South and Working in the West. I have seen the good in every region of this country and I will miss it if it ever breaks apart.

I'm in support of regionalism as against the total death of this country.

The problem with Igbos is that they claim to know too much. they even think they know you better than you. There is oil in many parts of Agbor and oil exploration is going on in Agbor. oil exploration is also going on in Abavo and Ute Ukpo in Ika land which you people refer to Agbor as well. There's oil in all parts of Delta but the only part of delta that oil exploration is not going on is Aniocha Oshimili but their are many communities there that have oil in large quantities. Oil was discovered in ubulu Uku which is in Aniocha area in the 1950s same time it was discovered in Oloibiri but it was left unexploited till date. there's oil in many other villages around there that's not been exploited.

And again, I'm from Agbor and I'm not Igbo. you know nothing about my people so stfu. You don't have any right to tell me who I am without consulting me. don't screenshot some stupid right up by some expansionist Igbos to prove I'm igbo

Thewrath:

You seriously lack comprehension,where did you see that?

Read again !!!
The Niger Delta, and the "South South Zone",are two different entities.
The Niger Delta is the oil-producing region comprising of Bayelsa,Delta,Rivers,Abia, Akwa-Ibom, Cross River, Edo,Imo and Ondo States(9 states).
While in the Nigerian South South is a geo-political zone comprising of Akwa Ibom,Bayelsa,Cross River,Delta,Edo and Rivers States(6 states)

It only describes the SS as a geo political zone!

seriously you're the one that lacks compression. The article says Niger delta is equal to the Delta of the river Niger. Is Delta of river not a geographical area?

and some people are confusing geographical area with geopolitical zone. strange

vayne:

Just look at yourself,niger delta is a composition of all oil producing states,it's not a geographical area,neither is it a tribe,nddc was set up to oversee the welfare if the niger delta.

I didn't know people are this ignorant on Nairaland. even the link the poster posted also said that Niger delta is a geography area. I didn't bother to read it but I just did. and the link proves that the present Niger delta as defined by Nigerian government is not correct.

Thewrath:

How many times do I have to tell you that niger delta is not a geographical area/region but a govt creation of oil producing states.
While SS is an agency set up for devil openely of niger delta.
Its SS that is a geographical area/region!!!

This was addressed in the article,but how will you know when you called it stupid without reading it!!

You're wrong. Niger delta is the Delta of the river Niger.

Adaure4ever:
and let me ask u, is there any drop of crude oil in ur Agbor? Even if there is, can i use it to charge up my Recheargable Lattern for 20mins?
Do you know the Crude Oil in Ndoki, Egbema, Asa, Oyigbo, Aguleri, Etche etc?
whats ur point of these ur noise, pls

It's now obvious that you lack brain. and to answer your question, there is oil and all parts of Delta State and oil exploration is taking place in Agbor. I said the obvious. Niger delta is a geographical area and not the same as NDDC that was created by government. it's not about who has more oil or not

Aaronzy:
guy, go take your drugs

I think you're the one that needs to take your drugs. Niger delta is a geographical area and not a government creation. Imogen and Ondo are not Niger delta. Government made them part of NDDC so they could benefit what the Niger delta oil producing states benefit.

Thewrath:

You are still replying that ND imposter that can't even comprehend a simple article.

Impostor? this whole post is senseless. Ondo and Imo are not part of Niger delta. Being part of NDDC is different from being Niger delta. know that if you don't know.

Adaure4ever:
and who gives a dime about your Agbor?
Psychology has taught us that people with inferior Narsissistic complex always hunger for attention.

I'm proud of my Agbor and my heritage. you know nothing about us. Igbos fight tooth and nails to make us part of them. I'm not against my Anioma joining Biafrao. And I'm not against it joining Niger delta Republic. when the time comes we decide. being part of biafra is different from being Igbo. p

Adaure4ever:
No, I am not a kid, I am a pharmacist and currently a Masters degree student.. Hold ur insult.
Am not talking about ikwerres here, they are Not relevant to the Blessed Igbo Race.
I am talking about Egbema, Ndoki, Oyigbo Lga, Asaba, Ahoada etc what race are they from? THE IGBO RACE.
you are lucky that post ume has been scrapped, I know that ur jamb score is not up to 130.

A pharmacist my foot. this shows how childish you are. hahaha. very funny. do you have an idea who you're talking to?

And it's a pity people don't know the difference between Niger delta and being part of NDDC. Imo and Ondo are not Niger Deltans.

Thewrath:

I didn't open this thread for you,I opened it because it concerns me a born and bred deltan from asaba,and an Igbo

Good for you. you're Asaba and Igbo and I'm from Agbor and not Igbo. when the time comes you go where you think is good for you

Adaure4ever:
what are you talking about?
How can you make Igbo people Igbos when they are already Igbos?
are you up to 17yrs?

You're very senseless and you know nothing about what you're talking about. can you think of a Niger Delta without Ikwere? are they part of the Igbos you're talking about? it's obvious you're a kid

Thewrath:

Stupid answer,they are different according to the article.

what stupid article are you talking about?

Thewrath:

This so called proposed map,does it not include rivers and delta SS states? With Igbo ethnic groups?

Who are the Igbo Ethnic groups in Niger Delta? are you the one that makes them Igbo? All the so called Igbo groups in Niger Delta has made it clear they're not Igbo. so this shouldn't be an issue about consulting with the South East Igbo before seceding them to the Republic. keep do you think the South East Igbos have more authority over these igbo groups than the igbo groups themselves? take note this is not about if they're igbos or not.

stupid question. Niger Delta Republic is equal to South South. nothing more nothing less.

kill rustlers and protect more dangerous herdsmen. kudos

blues20:


I consider Ukwani people as Igbos...my former date was from kwale, Chinenye, I'm surprised with your response here and that of Ishilove. My colleague in the office, Chima, is from Agbor, and I treat and respect him as a brother..... He speaks fluent Onitcha Igbo. He has not for one day deny being Igbo. He will rather assert his uniqueness by saying he is Igbo, but from Delta. Whatz up with you

it's funny when you people come out here to talk about names. Do you know the number percentage of Okay people that bear Edo names? I'm not saying Ika is Edo, but that's our origin. bearing Edo names doesn't make us Edo same way bearing Igbo names doesn't make us Igbo. for your information their is no chi in ika language what we believe in is ehi, and any true Ika name starts with ehi. Chukwu is sometimes used as God but it's borrowed from Igbo, Ika word for God is Oselobue

Afrobeau:

What is Ukwuani? Tribe? Local government? Town? Dear, I'm not forcing you to claim being Igbo. Not everyone from Delta state is Igbo. So feel free to attach yourself to any tribe you care more about. My question is clearly directed to IGBOS from Delta state who think that we Igbos from other states hate them and we don't.

You're very senseless to ask what's Ukwani. You igbos need to learn respect

Afrobeau:

That's the most useless answer I've gotten on any question. The reason why I was asking was because I don't know.

No, it's your brainless head that's useless. from your write up its obvious you've concluded in your mind that they are ignoring but just denying

Leopard2A7:


Like I said earlier just don't worry.

If another war breaks out then you will understand how you are grouped in Nigeria.

Emefiele an Ika man is CBN governor yet Buhari was on national TV and said an Igbo man is CBN governor and shouting 'What do the Igbos want?'

Tomorrow an Emefiele who is seen by Buhari and his people as an Igbo CBN governor will come out shouting 'We Ika' Odiegwu o.

You're not making any sense. Does Buhari calling him an Igbo man make him an Igbo man? Nobody else has the right to tell you who you are. you tell people who you are.

Leopard2A7:


Just don't worry, if a war breaks out in Nigeria today then you will understand how the rest of Nigeria classify you. By that time we will see how far all this your shouting will take you.

Kaduna Nzeogu from Delta state led a coup against the north and they came for the Igbos. Nuff said.

How they see you doesn't define who you are. Kaduna Nzeogwu led a coup and an Igbo man benefited from the coup and the Igbos made a big deal out of the coup by making mockery of Hausas even in the North, that could be one of reasons they came for the Igbos.

This picture is as fake as fake.

Leopard2A7:


A Fulani man is not an Hausa man but if you call him a Hausa man he will accept it and not start writing long epistles trying to prove to you that he is not Hausa. We usually call all of the Hausa up north and they don't shout about.

Ijebu language is sort of different from the core Yoruba dialect but if you call them Yoruba they accept it like that. It is only in the east where this one is trying to prove that he is Anioma and not Igbo. That one is trying to prove he is Ika and not Igbo. The other one is shouting at the top of his voice that he is Ikwerre and not Igbo. I smh for the east.

What are you saying in essence? that other tribes should give up their cultural heritage the same way 70% of Fulani people don't know how to speak their language?

mankan2k7:
I checked d names

The hardworking lost Israelites were absent

Chamillionnaire is igbo