oweniwe:


It when they want to share positions or you are inspiring to go higher, but need their support .... That is when you will encounter such slights.

Pat Utomi had a good taste of that when he was campaigning

I'm not Igbo and will never claim to be one for any reason. but if they call any Anioma wannabe Igbo fake Igbo, he deserves it. that's to show Igbos know themselves when the chips are down

Leopard2A7:
Look at the western flank, whether they be Egun, Ijebu, Egba or whatever they accept being called Yoruba.


Look at the northern flank, whether they be Fulani, Kanuri or Hausa they all accept being called Hausa.


It is only when you come eastwards that you see people like Ishilove saying they are not Igbo but Ukwuani. You hear another one say he is not Igbo but Ikwerre. God help us in the eastern flank. I wonder what you'll will gain with all this minority you're claming. It has now changed from 'We SS' to 'We Anioma.' odiegwu ooo.


As for Ishilove and co, if a war breaks out in Nigeria today then you will understand how the rest of Nigeria sees you.

Thank God for guys like Ikechi1 & Ugomba.

A word is enough for the wise.

The question is are Fulani people Hausas? Is Fulani the same as Hausa? Accepting being called an Hausa doesn't make one an Hausa. Does it?

oweniwe:


She knows jor.....

The thing is... If you say you're Igbo from Anioma or Ukwuani.....

The Igbo ppl from the SE will start taunting that you're "fake igbo "

If an Anioma person want to start a venture or group and he go meet SE Igbo people for support, they will start asking him stupid questions about his origin.... Questions they would never ask an abia or ebonyi man.

In a nutshell, SE igbo see themselves as being superior to other igbo speaking people around yhem.

This kind of "Superior mentality " is what other igbo speaking people find repulsive... They would rather walk away than be dressed down or belittled by people they initially thought were their brothers.

So untrue. No Igbo man has ever called me fake Igbo.

oweniwe:


Yea.... That's why I said its better to team up as one and give the hausa-fulani and yoruba a run for our resources instead of claiming minorities.

So though I'm ukwuani, I would never deny that I'm igbo

I'm Ika and I'm not Igbo. Though Anioma and Ika have a common enemy in Hausa Fulani and to some extent Yoruba that aid them in their demonic mission, no true son of Anioma will denounce their Anioma heritage for political gains. I' want the actualization of Biafra and I know Anioma will be in either Biafra or Niger delta Republic depends on how things play out. But does being in Biafra amount to being Igbo?

Lezzlie:
So what are they?

what a strange way of reasoning

What does it mean to say a language is endangered?
An endangered language is one that is likely to become extinct in the near future. Many languages are failing out of use and being replaced by others that are more widely used in the region or nation, such as English in the U.S. or Spanish in Mexico. Unless current trends are reversed, these endangered languages will become extinct within the next century. Many other languages are no longer being learned by new generations of children or by new adult speakers; these languages will become extinct when their last speaker dies. In fact, dozens of languages today have only one native speaker still living, and that person's death will mean the extinction of the language: It will no longer be spoken, or known, by anyone.

Is that what happened to dead languages like Ancient Greek and Latin?
No. These languages are considered dead because they are no longer spoken in the form in which we find them in ancient writings. But they weren't abruptly replaced by other languages; instead, Ancient Greek slowly evolved into modern Greek, and Latin slowly evolved into modern Italian, Spanish, French, Romanian, and other languages. In the same way, the Middle English of Chaucer's day is no longer spoken, but it has evolved into Modern English.

How do languages become extinct?
Outright genocide is one cause of language extinction. For example, when European invaders exterminated the Tasmanians in the early 19th century, an unknown number of languages died as well. Far more often, however, languages become extinct when a community finds itself under pressure to integrate with a larger or more powerful group. Sometimes the people learn the outsiders' language in addition to their own; this has happened in Greenland, a territory of Denmark, where Kalaallisut is learned alongside Danish. But often the community is pressured to give up its language and even its ethnic and cultural identity. This has been the case for the ethnic Kurds in Turkey, who are forbidden by law to print or formally teach their language. It has also been the case for younger speakers of Native American languages, who, as recently as the ig6os, were punished for speaking their native languages at boarding schools.
http://www.linguisticsociety.org/content/what-endangered-language

According to one count, 6,703 separate languages were spoken in the world in 1996. Of these, 1000 were spoken in the Americas, 2011 in Africa, 225 in Europe, 2165 in Asia, and 1320 in the Pacific, including Australia. These numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, because our information about many languages is scant or outdated, (and it is hard to draw the line between languages and dialects). But most linguists agree that there are well over 5,000 languages in the world. A century from now, however, many of these languages may be extinct. Some linguists believe the number may decrease by half; some say the total could fall to mere hundreds as the majority of the world's languages - most spoken by a few thousand people or less - give way to languages like English, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin Chinese, Russian, Indonesian, Arabic, Swahili, and Hindi. By some estimates, 80% of the world's languages may vanish within the next century.

Lezzlie:
The fact that they speak igboid language showed that they are predominantly igboid with a pocket of immigrants from Benin. Never forget the Benin empire was so great and influential it spanned across the Niger.

That my friend, may just be another reason. The answer you seek is hidden in the between the very submission you just made.

No further explanation needed.

Does the fact that Igbos outnumber the Edos make Aniomas Igbos?

mbatuku2:
The strongest point that a couple of people have made is towns in Ika and Ukwuani lands having the same names as those in the SE.

How many are these compared to town names of Bini origin? Anyone with such details?

90% of Ika town names are Edo. All Ika village settings and culture are Edo. It's same in other Anioma areas. Up to 11 languages is spoken in Anioma. Including I jaw, Urhobo, Isoko that's spoken by some Ukwani areas.

This link might educate some people about languages. www.linguisticsociety.org/content/what-endangered-language

Lezzlie:


And their language is igboid? More intelligible to Igbos than it is to Benin despite the close proximity to Benin?

Why not also put the numbers of Edos living in Anioma in relation to the Edos into consideration? Igbos outnumbers the Edos and Igbos are everywhere. Igbo language is very popular and that can be a contributing factor

PabloAfricanus:


Firstly I abhor insults and expletives on this faceless forum.
You dont know me, you dont even know if I am Igbo.
The fact that you have resorted to insults show you have already run out of talking points.
For starters, no one called you or your elders liars.
Historical facts were presented, you can either counter them with historical facts or you can go on spewing invented
tales and mythologies.
Secondly, history is an open ended topic. There are professional and amateur historians whose job is to research, verify and
comment on historical claims and facts. If you have any problem with that, I suggest you go back to school and get a better education.
Having said that, the claims were made by your so called elders and they were the ones who started this whole denials and counter denials.

After doing my own little digging around, I find little evidence that the SE Igbos have mounted any campaign to force an "Igbo" identity
on you "edoid" peoples...who have nothing to do with Igbo

As an amateur historian and a Nigerian, I am free to comment and analyze your claims to Bini ancestry.
It was neither Nigerians nor Igbos who claimed for you and your elders that you came from Bini or are "edoid" peoples.
You and your elders did.
Facts must speak for themselves or must be proved if there is any controversy around presented facts or historical claims.
The facts on ground do not point to an Edo or Bini ancestory for the Ikas and the Aniomas.
Contrary to your elders' claims, the bulk of what is Ika/Anioma history is overwhelming Igbo...in language, culture and tradition.

If you are not intelligent enough to know that language is the first marker of ethnic groupings...then you have my sympathy on your ignorance.
When a supposedly unique and different people cannot substantiate their claims to uniqueness or separate identity...you can be sure some creative story telling is involved.
The pathetic fact about your rants is that you are not even well informed of the full scope of what you share with the SE Igbos.
This goes also for your elders. When presented with the fact there is an an Onicha in Ezza Ebonyi state, they silently ignore that.
When reminded that there is an Onitsha in Ezinitte Mbaise, that too gets conveniently ignored.
That are are Abbi, Owa, Umu Owas, Aboh across the Niger is plain lost to them....or they conveniently ignore those facts.

In summary dude, historical facts point out that you have more in common with the SE Igbos than with the Edos who are your next door neighbours.
They neither speak your language nor do you speak theirs. On that single point alone...you have a problem with your "Edoid" claims.

Finally the joke is on you and your elders.
Your governor, an Ika man, bears the name Ifeanyi Okowa.
Touche!
What mannalov irony and nansense! An sitting governor of Ika origin, an Edoid man bearing an Igbo name of all things!
Are you sure it was not the lying Igbos who forced his father, who by the way bears the name Chief Arthur Okorie Okowa
...to give his son an Igbo name?
Dont you just love the pure Edoid names you princely and kingly Ika people have?
Dude the joke is squarely on you.

If you have any claim to intelligence, answer this:
If there was a religious crisis in Kano and the resident Igbos were accused of having blasphemed Prophet Muhammed,
you know how it goes and the mob happen to be out for blood.
How will they tell the difference between these 6 Southern Nigerian men living in Sabon Gari?
Elechi Martins, Elechi Amadi, Chukwuma Nzeogwu, Chukwuma Soludo, Ifeanyi Uba and Ifeanyi Okowa?

How will they identify the ones who are Igbo and the ones who are Edoid among them?

you became insulting the moment you said elders of an ethnic group is living in self denial. From all your write ups I can see you know a whole lot about igbo but you don't know anything about Ika/Anioma or Edo. 80% Of Ika surnames are Edo. that plows bears an Igbo name doesn't make him Ignoring same way. I can give you a list of a thousand prominent men from Ika, 80% of them have Edo surnames, about 10% have real ika names and the rest are igbo names. Talking about names of towns, Okay share more names with Edo more than they share with any other groups. there are many owas in edo, Emuhu, Ute, even Agbor in an U r hobo land. Majority of ika village names are Edo and all our street and chieftaincy titles are Edo. You're highly hypocritical. Claiming to be liberal while denying any link between Anioma and Edo. even the blind can see the similarities but from all you wrote their is no single similarities. and which stupid study did you carry out and what nonsense facts are you talking about
like I said, you don't know anything about Anions neither do you know anything about Edo. stop fooling yourself on the internet

PabloAfricanus:



Here comes another "edoid" one!
Dude its either you have been grossly misinformed or you are just another victim of a self inflicted identity crisis.
For starters, no "edoid" peoples speak an "Igbo" dialect like the so called Aniomas.
The Afemais, the Ishans, the Edos themselves, the Urhobos and the Itshekiris...all have their separate languages and/or dialects
which are still being spoken till today.
Next their oral histories rarely has been the source of controversies like the Aniomas.

The Itshekiris can tell you clearly when Prince Ginuwa came from Bini to establish the ruling dynasty.
You can see for yourself that his name has no Itshekiri themed meaning and was clearly Edo.
The Afemais and Ishans till today still speak an Edo dialect.
How you and your "historians" managed to convince yourselves a man named Eze Chima is Edo is simply baffling.
Lets not even get to the Ikhime part or the fact that the Binis have no record of such an important personality.
Even more baffling is your calling "edoid" a culture that is more Igbo than even your beloved Edo!
I am left baffled
How you also managed to conveniently ignore the facts that all the names of places you claim to have been founded by the so called
Eze Chima is faithfully replicated across the Niger...is also baffling.
Are you aware there are more Onichas across the Niger than in your Anioma lands?
How come a people who from time immemorial have always spoken pristine Igbo dialects, practised pristine Igbo traditions,
and have always had the majority of their deities to be Igbo deities...suddenly become "Edoid" beats the imagination.
Apparently you have not researched your history well and like so many of your elders...have simply chosen to live in self denial.
Pls kontinu.

first I'm an Ika man and not from An Ezechime clan but if the Ezechimes say their ancestors are from Benin, who are you to question them? How many Aniomas are questioning you Igbos when you say you came from Israel? is very funny for a people that don't know their history to insult people that have their history handed over to them for many centuries before the civil war or the formation of Nigeria. And it amuses me when this people come online and start using their population to spread falsehood online. I know you're at advantage of spreading more lies about Anioma because you outnumber the Aniomas but that's not going to make real Aniomas denounce their ethnicity and accept Igbo. We Aniomas know where we come from and our elders know our history as handed down from many centuries and generations by our ancestors. This has nothing to do with Igbo neither does it have anything to do with Nigeria. May God twist your mouth for insulting my elders for saying the truth. You don't have any right to insult or call my elders liars because I don't call your elders liars when they said they are from Israel. You're highly biased in your observations. you can never know a people better than they know themselves neither can you love a people better than they love themselves. You talk about similarities with igbo while totally ignoring the similarities with the Edos. And being as knowledgeable as you claim to be, I'm sure you understand the dynamism of language and why it can never be used to determine ethnicity also going by how fond the Igbo are in changing people's names to Igboid name. and you talk like Anioma is equal to ezechime clan.

Everybody has right to self determination. Same right to self determination that Igbos use for the agitation of Biafra is what the Aniomas have to proclaim their ethnicity. Igbos come here and insult Aniomas, calling their ancestors that handed down their history from many generations liars. That's the height of insolence. You come here and talk about shared history forgetting that majority of Anioma history is edoid. Do you want to use language as an only measure of determining ethnicity? do you people know what makes a language a language and what makes a language a dialect? Nobody has the right to tell another that your language is a dialect of my language. it's an insult. even linguists don't have any definite way of determining a language and a dialect. many of the Europeans languages that are regarded as a separate language are closer to themselves than Igbo and Anioma languages yet you call it Igbo dialect? because it's Africa? Chinese is regarded as language but the truth is the Chinese language is made up of many languages yet people see it as a language. If language determines ethnicity why does some language go extinct? language is dynamic and can change within a short period of time. you people should go and make a research on factors that can make a language go extinct or change, you'll see that this Anioma-Igbo relationship fits perfectly.

Ugomba:
Thats why I said that a Niger Delta Republic will be a calamity.
Militias, Fighting among the tribes because the Ijaws will use their numbers and dominate the country.
Who will rule who?
They should just count my Delta North out of their madness.

What do you mean? you prefer being in Nigeria with Hausa/Fulani or being in Biafra? if Niger Delta Republic is created and Biafra created too which would you love to join? I'm Anioma and I would join any country that would take me out of Nigeria with Hausa Fulani. it's not about the oil. I pray God to stop the oil flow so that Nigeria can disintegrate

mrvitalis:

The rule of law is there... If u are corrupt and not my party member u go to jail. .. It's that simple and when the other party get power they do same... No innocent person is affected. .. So if u don't Want to be affected u stay clean

So brainless.

Did I hear you say 3 person in a day? the first person got electrocuted, the second person and the third? I don't believe that. I know there's no value for human life in Nigeria but this is hard to believe.

really?

Buhari is shameless. he also has a more serious case of forgery hanging on his neck

Afrobeau:
Hello my beautiful people, I was just wondering about this. My boyfriend is from Delta state and speaks Igbo well as well as has an Igbo last name. But my question is, why is it that some Delta-Igbos try to say that they are not Igbos? Why do they hate being associated with their ancestry? Don't tell me that Igbos don't like Delta-Igbos because that shouldn't be an issue, once you are Igbo, you are Igbo and have every right to claim your Igboness lol... And by the way, I don't know any Igbos that hate Delta Igbos, it's always Delta-igbos trying to make it clear that they are not Igbo Just like Mr. Sunday Olise. I understand that there are other tribes in Delta State that are not Igbo but since Nigerian cultural system is a patriarchy, there is virtually no way that you can get an Igbo name unless your forefathers were Igbos and since Delta state has always been in the South Eastern part of Nigeria, it is very possible that the Igbos were settled there even before the so-claimed migration from the Benin-empire? I love Delta Igbos but I don't know why they dissociate themselves from their tribe. Some of them say their Igbo language is different but what they are actually referring to is their dialect, if a man from Awka in Anambra state speaks his native awka dialect a man from Eziagu in Enugu state may not understand it. I don't fully understand all of my boyfriend's dialect when he speaks in his Agbor dialect but I can piece the words together and make out the sentence... It's Igbo based, your surname is Igbo but you don't think you're Igbo enough Why is that?

You don't know anything about the people you're talking about. Don't talk about something that's much more bigger than you.

Igboid:

OP PERSPECTIVE

This Obamkpa's perspective, is not far from the truth.

I had always maintained that ancient Bini had indigenous Igbo people Resident thereof.

An Igbo people who though assimilated partially as Bini people, by imbibing Bini political systems and some Bini names( probably from marrying Bini women) but stuck unto their Igbo core and language.

This will explain why we had so called Bini founders of Igbo speaking towns answering Igbo names like Ezechime, Akalaka, etc from the onset. And even when they had edoid ones, they end up giving their children Igbo names, like in the case of Esumai and his son Ogwaezi, and even giving their new established towns Igbo names, using the Igbo prefix of "Umu" and not Edo "Omo", it's obvious they were all Igbo speaking.

The pure Edo speaking non Igbo ones who are actually of Edo origin, like Oza Nogonogo people of Agbor, still speak an Edoid language till today despite centuries of being part of an Igbo speaking Agbor town, and the Yoruboid ones in Ugbodu, Ukwunzu and the Rest, still retained their native Yoruboid language, they never threw them away totally for Igbo dialects. The Igala ones in Ebu, still speaks Igala.

It is true that the Igbo speaking parts Delta were Igbo speaking even when they were in Bini, the Obamkpa's story of captivity in Bini fits into this plot perfectly, this is a logical and rational conclusion.

you Op, where are you from?

An Alhaji met a friend in asaba the other day and promised to give him millions of Naira if he accept to convert to islam. this guy wasn't a good Christian. he's even a pagan but he goes to gone to many churches mostly to look for of girls. He accepted to convert but he backed out when the Alhaji told him they will show him on TV denouncing Christ. He told the man he doesn't believe in Christ but man said it doesn't matter.

they tried to blur it but it's obvious. Nonsense apc and their childish game.

they tried to blur it but it's obvious. Nonsense apc

For those people quoting me. I'm not against what the FG is planning to do but I've lost confidence in them that everything they do is suspicious. they're so deceptive that theres always more that meet the eyes in everything they do. The States have misappropriated funds so is the FG. isn't this a way to quiet the agitation for true Federalism? I'm very busy and I don't have time to make the points i would like to make here. maybe later I come up with a better response. Right now I have my brain in very important thing but Nigeria belongs to all of us that's why we should always try to think beyond what these politicians present to us especially this present APC government. Every time they come up with any good news, it always turns out to be a scam

Boss13:
This is by far the most beautiful and important indirect policy action ever conceptualized by any government in this country and I am thoroughly impressed with Kemi (Minister of Finance) because it appears to be her initiatives.

On the other hand, this should not be applicable to bail out funds but also conditions precedent to qualify for monthly state funds because emprically most states in this country survive on monthly allocation from FG, no initiative, no innovation, just conduit pipes for spending and stealing.

These initiatives promotes good public sector accountability and governance. It also focus on public sector information disclosure which will enable citizens ascertain what their governors are doing with state funds. In the long run, it will enable states to access a wide range of funds from international markets and God bless them that they use such funds for private aggrandizement, these will bankrupt their states.

I am very very happy with this and it is a welcome development. Also, the FG must do the same in terms of disclosing information.

Is this a better option than True Federalism? This is like assigning more power to the center. Buhari is looking for a way to reduce power of governors.

evansjeff:
If only Buhari can "completely" eliminate corruption from this country, even if he does only that for 4 Years, I'm satisfied. Only if we know that all of our problems as Nigerians has corruption as it's root...you would know what I mean.

. unfortunately, Buhari is not fighting corruption. in fact, he's the most corrupt Nigerian. He's only corrupt but also a sadist.

StOla:
If you were smart enough, you would understand that this is a statement of result and not a certificate.

This statement of result was produced on demand and can always be produced on demand any other time in the future.

Where you expecting the school to provide the results demanded in 2015 on a result paper format of the 1960's?

Did you see any remark (credit, distinction etc) beside the Igbo subject, or you do not know what a slash to represent nil entry is? Or from your argument buhari sat for all the possible 21 subjects that now exist on the 2015 result statement template?

As for the principal's name, did the entry request for a name at all or you have taken it upon yourself to decide what is ideal and required?

Calm down, borrow yourself some common sense, then look again. You would realise you have already cleared your own concerns with the very 1st point you raised.

Nonsense. stop defending the indefensible

Amelian:




If the wives of the powerful men dont show off, the men will claim to young ladies they are either single or divorced.. Hence they will marry secretly another lady or more ladies elsewhere, without the wife knowing.. We knw what u men , can do on the seat of power and wealth thats y the wives show themselves... Way of saying, ladies back off..

But a powerful woman wont marry another man just for the wimps of it.

A man doesn't need to be powerful before he can marry a legion of ladies if he wants

I sense the guy used some Facebook tweaks. too good to be true.

deeplow:
From the look of things, she seems at peace with whatever choices she has made, doesn't look forced. That Facebook post reeks of senselessness, immaturity, hatred, intolerance and pain.

I admit that it is sad, the way some useless muslims have chosen to take laws into their hands. It is just more saddening how people have chosen to react to it. If every muslim killed, every christian would be dead.

More prominent muslims just have to do more about this spate of radicalism and extremism. Without that, these sickening actions and reactions would continue.

You must be very stupid for this post. You kill people and also want to teach them how to react? You beat me and also want to force me on how to cry?

What about the part that said it kept control of some territory?