Igboid:


You are lost. They call you Igbos because they know you are Igbos. They have been there with you all through.

They knew when your sons were basking in the glory of the Igbo Union, when the Igbo ethnic group was at the peak of her prowess, they knew you took delight in being Igbo then, and they know why some of you are running away from your shadows.

Perhaps you need Prof Ita Sagay to reset you malfunctioning brain again, nkwa I present Mr Sagay therapy to you: https://www.nairaland.com/2858845/prof-sagay-many-igbos-didnt

Itse Sagay? Baby that's Delta politics for you. And truttruth be told, we were not supposed to be part of Delta but for some reasons, we ended up with them and luckily had the capital of a State we were not included in the original plan situated in our area. That's the main reason for the bitter politics in Delta. They felt shortchanged so to remind you that you were not supposed to be in a State were you have the capital, they call you Igbo. But truth be told, we also have so many things in common especially in culture and to some extent, in our worldview which was as a result of having the same origin. Anioma and Igbo don't have anything in common. Our lives are complete opposite, different worldview, different cultures only similar languages which unfortunately is more pronounced. That's why many Nigerians readily label the whole Anioma as Igbo

marshborn:

I am from umuahia and i can't understand 70% of what an ebonyi speaks if he chooses to speak in his own dialect... so according to your theory I am igbo but "umuahia" abi?

who removed your brains? Did you hear me talk about dialect? Is central Igbo same as dialect?

Udmaster:
the same way an Nnewi, Ohafia, Onitsha, Ezzi etc man can't undertand Central Igbo well because they have their various dialects just like Agbor.
Central Igbo is owned by nobody but formulated by Igbo scholars to implement A linguistic understand between various Igbo dialects Speakers.

please stop lying to yourself. If they don't understand central Igbo then it's not central Igbo. An average Igbo man understands at least 90% central Igbo but I can give 50% to my ika people and maybe 70 to the Enuanis.

Igboid:


Are you serious? You are just reaching for straws. Was it not Achuzia an Asaba son that led the Biafran Army that brought down the Niger bridge?

What Anioma leadership is awakening to the fact that Anioma is not Igbo? Cos the last time I checked, the most prominent Anioma traditional leader is the Asagba of Asaba, and he remains a grand patron of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and a crusader for Igbo unity.

I don't think you know more about Anioma that the erudite professor of Medicine cum traditional ruler of Asaba himself. So you might as well go and park one place.

As long as the entire Nigeria is concerned, Nzeogwu is an Igbo man, because it serves their purpose of selling the "Igbo coup " propaganda, even though never for once had SEners denied Nzeogwu, despite the fact that we were made to bear the full blunt of his actions.

Can you get me a genuine verifiable document to proof that Ndiigbo jettisoned the Anioma state project in place of Ebonyi state creation?

How can we look down on Anioma and still elected Anioma sons to lead Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and Aka Ikenga, both of which are apex and elitist Igbo organisation?

Nwanne, you are talking off point.

Asagba of Asaba is not a recognized king in Delta. A monarch from a tiny Anioma village commands more respect than the Asagba. Please stop saying what you don't know. If you're from the east, you can never understand Deltans. We might have issues with the Urhobos because of politics, but we understand each other more than Anioma and East. They can call us Igbos for political reasons. It's a form of derogatory word for them and they enjoy doing it. It's all because of politics but deep down their hearts, they know the difference between Anioma and igbos.

nextstep:


My understanding is that Languages are distinct (and often times unintelligible to each other), while dialect are variations of a language.

E.g. Igbo is a language, and orlu, umuahia, onitsha, enu-ani and ika (arguably) are dialects.
Yoruba is a language, yet ijebu, ilesha, ibadan all speak different dialects of it.

The conflation came around when the Europeans arrogantly called different Nigerian languages dialects simply because they found all the sounds unintelligible. However, if I was to say the same of English, Dutch, and German, and call them dialects (because they do share similar origins and sound alike), they'd be up in arms.

by your explanation, it shows you have a glimpse of my point. To me, the relationship between language and dialects is only a political creation that's why Esan that's not mutually intelligible can be called a language instead of different languages. Even Chinese is made up of different languages all not mutually intelligible. On the other hand, many mutually intelligible dialects in Europe are classified as different languages. This doesn't make sense at all.

I'm from Anioma but I can only understand about 50% of Central Igbo. A typical Agbor man doesn't know the meaning of words like Odum, Agu, ichie, gburugburu, ju ese, umu azi, I can go on and on. I sat an Igbo friend down last year and began to ask him the meaning of many Igbo words. I was surprised about how little I know

Udmaster:
tell us the relationship btw Dialect and Language?we are waiting.

There is a good reason I asked you to do your research before you quote me. I can explain to you but that will be a very difficult task to someone that doesn't have any idea about this. Even linguists debate about this. The difference between language and dialect doesn't have anything to do with linguistics or language. This is a very wide subject so if you want to get an answer, I suggest you do your research. At least google has made everything easier and cheaper

Udmaster:
Agbor is a dialect. Can an enuani man in Asaba understand Agbor?
A language is a combination of identical dialects.
Agbor is just like Ohafia dialect, Can you hear Ohafia? Ohafia dialect is different from Onitsha own?
Can you hear onitsha dialect? Does it mean that Ohafia and Onitsha man are different tribes?

Stop saying what you don't know. What is a dialect and what is a language? This question about dialect and language is something even linguists can't answer. Before you quote me, go and make your research because I don't have time to argue with blind people

Real Aniomas don't call themselves Delta Igbo. They call themselves by their real ethnic groups. Anioma has so many different ethnic groups that calling the whole of Anioma Igbo is an insult to the non igbos in Anioma. 98% of my Ika people are from Edoid tribes and they reserve the right to either be igbos or not. Anybody arguing the Edo origin of most Anioma groups is only blinded by prejudice and biased.

mapet:


1. I think you should concentrate on your unfinished schooling, most especially your studies. You have simply shown that you're a kid.....and I dare say not an intelligent one
2. For your lessons that the following;
3. Don't you know you're faceless and nobody knows you? Even on this forum? So whatever the source you got your false information from, you should go back to that person and tell him off
4. You have means available to you and you don't use it; another limitation. Bros, google is your friend. That should be the first line of consult to tell you it is utterly false.
5. You're still affirming a falsehood that the spokesman of the Nigerian Prisons Service has debunked?www.vanguardngr.com Haba bros, if dem dey drag you enter bush, you self suppose commot

any other point you have up there does not dignify a reply as they are all filled with your ignorance

Nigerian prison service? Who's the spokesman of the Nigerian prison service? So you expect him to come out and say yes we released him? Who's the kid here?

mapet:


Out of all the dumb people spreading propalganda, you make the icing on the cake

Stop saying what you don't know. I got info from what could either be a reliable or non reliable source but going by what APC/Buhari is known for, you can't dismiss something like this just because it didn't follow due . Buhari doesn't follow due process. he was asking for emergency power but the truth is he is already exercising such power. Can you explain why Buhari would wake up one morning and sacked 12 VCs? He later admitted he goofed, saying he didn't know he doesn't have such power as a president. What president does that?

This is not propaganda. buhari doesn't follow due process. Buhari has done worse than this. Buhari woke up one morning and sacked all University VCs and Perm Secs of all the agencies and parastatal. Something he doesn't have anan executive power on. Buhari has released Kabiru Sokoto but he's in a confined building under the surveillance of SSS until further notice. I'll get more info and update on this.

majekdom2:
is agitation solving any thing. I read well before I quoted you. My point was to let you know crime is crime. Violenc does not solve any crap. Where are the ND now? Where are the militants? Are the better off? Quote me anywhere, Nigeria will remain Nigeria 20 years to come with FG still in control.

So what do suggest they do? Since violence is not the solution, can you kindly suggest a solution? And in your blackmail, you don't even address the injustice. This is like beating someone and also trying to direct him how to cry and how not to cry. This is the height of intimidation.

majekdom2:
omo onile will not blow up a company because he knows that's where his choppings is coming from. He is wise about his business. This is the difference.

Those guys asking for deve don't blow up companies. Those street guys are different from militants. Read and comprehend before you quote me. Militants use violence because violence is the only language the FG understand. Imagine a Niger delta without any form of agitation. They would have been relegated to the background. When Saro Wiwa agitated without violence, what was the end result?

AntiIPOB:
See reasoning abeg!
So jonathan became president because of the militancy in the niger delta?
Ok,let us see how it work this time.oh God,what king of brain did you insert in this guy skull?
Just as the write said,lie down on your bed,keep singing God will make your way by don moen,federal government will soon send your salary via crocodile smile,lazy fool.
So,the saudis,quatar,israel,omar,arab emirate etc,all this countries don't work again because they have natural resources ?
Nonesense!

You're the senseless one here. Who told you Niger deltans don't work? May the kind of Justice being given to the Niger delta be given to you. It's not a curse but a prayer. If you're honest with yourself comment with an Amen.

Nonsense write up. If that is not the way for the Niger Delta to agitate, can he kindly suggest the right way. Because the fact still remains that there is an injustice taking place in the Niger delta and these injustices need to be addressed in whatsoever way. There are omonile in Lagos but did it stop the companies from operating there? This blackmail of the Niger delta is getting out of hand

Wadeoye:


This imbe. is still in doubt - check the link below for pix.

http://dailypost.ng/2016/08/27/troops-kills-5-militants-recovers-heavy-guns-ammunitions-photos/?utm_source=dlvr.it_dp1&utm_medium=facebook

More will be killed as Crocodile begins to smile

who's the imbe here? You that don't know the difference between militants and baby oil bunkerers. Do militants use cock and shoot? And the Army of propaganda I know are capable of staging anything. They showed only a corpse and where is the other corpse and 23 arrested?

There's difference between oil bunkerers and militants

Lies. No pictures. No nothing. And they expect us to believe? Why do they always have pictures of killed Boko Haram members but never have pictures of militants?

abokibuhari:
so pastor Adeboye sent this short criminal to go deep his hands into the National treasury abi?

Actually, Adeboye, Oyedepo and CAN in general didn't endorse Buhari /Osibanjo. They unanimously endorsed GEJ which latlater caused problems in RCCG. It's strange how people twist facts within a very short period.

jhswe:
Thank you to all of you! I really appreciate it.



I wish I did, but I don't. I wouldn't be asking for help if I did. And what's wrong with wanting to hear it straight from the horse's mouth? If I looked hard enough here in Sweden I would probably, at best, find some translator of Nigerian fiction or university professor with limited second-hand knowledge of Nigerian pidgin. I guess I could try to find someone from Nigeria (you have no idea how ethnically segregated Sweden is!), but it would feel weird to ask, and since internet exists, I figured ...

By the way, could "nah" be translated as "that" in this context too?

I don't think so. I think "He" should be more appropriate in this context. This word can be used in many different ways. It's the most common and popular word in Nigerian pidgin

SlayerSupreme:

It is on record that there was definitely killings in Ika with the connivance of the aggrieved Benin people against Agbor,even heard accounts from Agbor people themselves,Asaba was just the most severe.

Not in my Agbor. Maybe you misunderstood what they told you. Igbodo and Ekuoma iis not Agbor. They're half Ika, half Enuani because of their location.

One funny thing about all these Zombies turned wailers is that they always say they would vote for PMB if they found themselves in the situation that made them vote him last time. If you would still vote for him, why then are you mourning when the administration is just starting? You haven't seen nothing yet.

This is just showing that they only voted for PMB not because of GEJ incompetence but out of hatred for the 5%

Jay542:


What are you saying this man.! 2 wrongs no fit make 1 right. Btw, which Islam agenda PMB don bring biko?

Have you been living in Pluto?

I pity Nigerians when they defend this administration. FYI, this administration doesn't know you exist. Their only concern is their ambition and evil agenda. The moment you realize that the better before it's too late.

Buhari also padded his own budget and it was signed, tell me why the NA won't also pad their own budget.

Emmasnoop:
Delta is number 1and not number 2,useless state with useless governor.

Are you from Delta state? Follow this link and see lists of roads started and completely within one year in office. https://mobile./132880303508485?view=permalink&id=877677842362057&refid=18&ref=opera_speed_dial&_ft_=qid.6315548504572373120%3Amf_story_key.877677842362057%3Atl_objid.877677842362057&__tn__=%2As

How did they infect themselves with the virus? They didn't discover all these from the so called virtual front view. I'm sure they did a kind of physical investigation.

mykl01:



Sold her soul, but can't sell her body
Double impasse..

lol.... One can sell his soul and refuse to sell her body. Just like many APC robots on Nairaland, Lauretta campaigns for Buhari like a programmed robot. Definitely she knows what she is doing is evil but she has gone so far to back down. I know she and my other Ika brother, Smart Ajaja must be regretting supporting Buhari by now because Buhari is a tyrant, a sadist and a killjoy that wouldn't compensate them adequately for all their troubles.

pazienza:
One of such letters by the Iyase was dated November 20, 2012 and addressed to the State Deputy Governor, Prof. Amos Utuama (SAN). Titled ‘The boycott of the palace of HRM, Obi of Igbodo by all his subjects’ read in part: “I do not intend to bore your Excellency with details of the case in this memo, but the root of the problem is that the Obi of Igbodo wants to marry an Ebonyi State woman, contrary to the custom and tradition of our people.
In other words, the custom is that the first legitimate wife, who will bear the heir to the throne, must be a native of Igbodo kingdom.” www.vanguardngr.com/2013/01/raging-controversy-over-obi-of-igbodos-marriage-to-non-indigene/


Read the last part of the above article.
Igbodo kings are only allowed to marry from Igbodo and no other place. This is according to Igbodo prime minister, the Iyase.

I'm an Ika man and I should be the one to tell you about our culture. Don't depend solely on what you read online. Anioma kings can marry from any Anioma kingdom because we see ourselves as one sharing one culture and traditions. That is how it is said in all Anioma communities but many Anioma kings have married from other other clans without any problems. I seen many kingdoms have problems with their kings for trying to marry outside Anioma land. the only place some Anioma king can marry from outside Anioma land is from some families in Benin.

[quote author=pazienza post=48211891]

The Biafran Army with many Anioma persons as soldiers had liberated the mid west from Nigeria on their march to Lagos and given the people a new republic called Republic of Benin with Dr Albert Okonkwo, an Anioma man as the head of the New republic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Benin_(1967)



Yes, Nigerian Army had to reclaim Anioma and over ran the area in the process.[/lquote] Very funny. The Midwest is not equal to Ika area. This comment is not related to our argument. Or you mean Benin was also liberated and the Oba doesn't have any option than to cooperate with the Nigerian Army?

pazienza:


Lol! Igbodo monarch must marry from Igbodo, the queen was rejected not because she hailed from Ebonyi, but because she wasn't from Igbodo, stop twisting facts.

What is an average Ika man? Ika is an ever changing concept, there are even some Agbor elements who sees the term "Ika" as an anti Agbor concept.

Nevertheless, Igbodo is as Ika as they come, you a Bini wanna be has no right to tell us who is Ika or who isn't.

When Onitsha was over ran by the Nigerian military, did the Army not camp in Onitsha? Did the Obi of Onitsha have any option but to play to their tunes to save his people? What about when Enugu fell? Did Enugu not serve as Nigerian military base from where they launched attack into Igbo hinterland? Umunede case was not special.

Ika kings marry from other Ika communities. It's a matter of shared culture. . Don't say what you don't know. Umunede was never overran because it wasn't part of Biafra.