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Politics › Re: Igalas Plead For Political Relevance In Abia by chyz(m): 2:59am On Nov 15, 2010

EzeUche0:
The first line Mr. Igbo BU [/b]Igbo. . .

igbobuigbo:
So where did you read from the article that there are indigenes of Abia who are not Igbos?

http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/uploads/maps/stateMaps/images/a7e75c34b5e93fb0da5275a93b039e682193ce0b.jpg

[b]The size of non-igbos tho is inflated however these are the groups that are indigenous.

Politics › Re: Igalas Plead For Political Relevance In Abia by chyz(m): 2:32am On Nov 15, 2010

EzeUche0:
I did not know that there were any Igala indigene in Abia State. I learn something new each day. I know there are Ibibio indigene though.

There aren't. as you read on in the article you can see that the first line was a typo. they are simply asking for positions in the administration because they believe that since they have been residents there for a while and contributed to its economy that they should be allowed a positions.

Politics › Re: 173,000 Members Dump PDP For ACN In Ebonyi by chyz(m): 2:12am On Nov 15, 2010

I dont understand why nigerian newspapers always over-exaggerate numbers.smh.

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 1:21am On Nov 15, 2010

Ade2K8:
Thousands of Yorubas in Igbo land = millions of Ndibo in the west.
Calling Yoruba people horrible people = sarcasm (do consult a dictionary or a thesaurus)
If Yorubas are ethnic bigots (laughable) = why do you have ONLY thousands of Yorubas in the east. Part of the reason is the parochial & narrowminded world view of you guys. Do you have any idea how many Ndigbo families were assisted by Yoruba families after the war? Did Ndigbo move North after the war? - Yes or No? Was it logical for your people to move North en masses after the war? Please answer me. But no - Yorubas are this, Yorubas are that? AH - go to hell!!!

I called OPC ethnic bigots. Wow baba awolowos education must have really been great indeed. grin

. No wonder you people are behind we Igbos in literacy. Hey don't blame us because we're more venturous they you all are.lol.

And about this comment," Do you have any idea how many Ndigbo families were assisted by Yoruba families after the war?", did you know how many yoruba people were protected during the revenge attacks that went on in the East against non-Igbos before the war actually took off?hmmm. i guess u never knew that. I thank your people for the assistance. But for you to make a statement suggesting that we Igbos treat your people unhospitably in our land is going over board. Like I said before i have no hate for the yoruba people, my hate is solely reserved to awolowo.

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 1:03am On Nov 15, 2010

fstranger:
Igbo people leech off Yoruba. The fact is that Biafran nation, or whatever silly name you call it is NOT self sustainable. You guys still need Ibadan and Lagos for you to be successful. Where will you all be today without the care and altruism of so many a Yoruba professor who labour night and day to develop your intellectual man-power

And the resourcefulness of your illiterates would not have gotten you far without the buying power of the Yoruba people. The point here is that you need us more than we need you. And you all know that.

Sorry woman you dropped the bomb on yourself when you said, "you need us more than we need you".LOL. I think we made it crystal clear that we don't need your asses, Hint: Civil War. Even today we prefer to go our own way. Also what do you mean "buying power of the yoruba"? That definitely needs clarity because the only ones buying from the others is your people coming into our businesses and buying what we GIVE you.So if you call that buying power in that sense then I allow you to keep that title. wink

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 12:56am On Nov 15, 2010

jason12345:
ever since i joined NL i have always wondered,

if the igbos say yorubas are horrible, dirty and are illiterates, why are they in the SW if they cannot stand yorubas??

1) why don't they go to the north were they would be killed in masses or remain in the EAST since they are well educated, clean and good people.

2) why don't they start any wahala in lagos and see what would happen since the yorubas are cowards?

3) is this the way the igbos in lagos think about the yorubas after the yorubas see them as brothers?

Boy you're always talking about war,war,war. You are not yoruba, you are Itsekiri. wink

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 12:55am On Nov 15, 2010

Ade2K8:
Yes, how many of those who stayed in Aba or Onitsha benefited from the taxes they paid over there? That's why Ndigbo keep pouring into the west - because Yorubas are such horrible, horrible people. If we were people such as you guys, you'd certainly be less inclined to move west? No?

We are everywhere woman so that cuts away of ur "pouring" into the west theory unless you say we are "pouring" into every part in nigeria. wink

, BTW, Igbos also "pour" into other Igbo states that they are not indigenous to. So ur point exactly is, ? grin

, And you should be ashamed that you can call ur own yoruba people such "horrible, horrible people" sad

.

To address the comment of, "If we were people such as you guys, you'd certainly be less inclined to move west? No?", first there are thousands of yorubas in igboland and they love it and never been attack by ethnic bigot groups like the OPC has done the Igbo in lagos. So ummm, lets not talk about hospitality. wink

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 12:32am On Nov 15, 2010

jason12345:
you have some serious issues!!! and the funny thing is that your people in lagos benefited from his free education policies.

His people in lagos benefited from the taxes that they paid not "his" "free education".

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 10:23pm On Nov 14, 2010

jason12345:
he is the smartest person on nl so far!

Well then i guess everybody else are aliens but you and he. grin

Islam › Re: Banning The Veil Is Indeed Sinister by chyz(m): 10:14pm On Nov 14, 2010

Don't point fingers when you are doing the same act again another person of a different religion in your own country. It's hypocrisy. Like they say, "When in Rome do as the Romans do".

Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongues: Is This An Actual Language From God? by chyz(m): 10:08pm On Nov 14, 2010

if you actually take time and read the Bible instead of flipping it open once in a while and just picking any verse and start reading it, you would understand that there were jews from different land and each had their own language(native tongue). Some traveled to a place outside of their land and could speak the language of the people whos land they were going to along with their own language. In the other land they often met people from home and became close with them.whenever people from the land that they were in were plotting against one of them then they would speak in there own tongue(language) so that the plotters/devils couldnt hear/understand what they were saying. That is what speaking in tongues means. All of that nonsense that people in the church do is not real. They may make themselves believe that they were speaking in "tongues" but its all nonsense. READ YOUR BIBLE!

Politics › 2011: Count Us Out Of Zoning, Consensus Candidate Controversies – Northern Can by chyz(op): 9:41pm On Nov 14, 2010

[size=18pt]2011: Count us out of zoning, consensus candidate controversies – Northern CAN
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By SEGUN OLATUNJI

Sunday, 14 Nov 2010

The Christian Association of Nigeria in the North on Saturday in Kaduna warned that it should not be dragged into the zoning and northern consensus presidential candidate controversies currently rocking the Peoples Democratic Party.

CAN said since it had no business with the politics of zoning now threatening to tear the PDP apart, it should be spared any insinuations of being involved in the plan to come up with a consensus candidate to compete against President Goodluck Jonathan for the presidential ticket at the party‘s primaries.

The body also denied setting up or being part of any committee that would ensure the emergence of a northern candidate in 2011.

The Adamu Ciroma-led Northern Political Leaders Forum had last Wednesday met for some hours with some leaders of the CAN from the 19 northern states and the Federal Capital Territory to solicit their support for the northern consensus candidate project.

But in a statement signed by the Secretary of the Kaduna State chapter of the association, Rev. Joseph Hayab, and made available to newsmen in Kaduna, CAN said although it was working in collaboration with other religious bodies to ensure the emergence of a leader who would be loved by all in 2011, it had nothing to do with the zoning controversy and the consensus candidate issue now troubling the PDP.

The group, therefore, dissociated itself from a statement credited to one of its officials (name withheld) who claimed on the Hausa Service of the British Broadcasting Corporation that CAN had decided to back a northern president after its recent meeting with the Ciroma committee in Kaduna.

CAN, Hayab said, would not be involved in partisan politics, adding that the body would continue to maintain its neutrality as an apolitical religious organisation conscious of its role in national development, integration and peaceful co-existence.

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201011141231212

Politics › Zoning Tension As President Appoints New Head Of Service Tomorrow by chyz(op): 9:18pm On Nov 14, 2010

[size=18pt]Zoning Tension As President Appoints New Head Of Service Tomorrow[/size]

Sunday, 14 November 2010 00:00 From Martins Oloja Abuja Bureau Chief News - National

3 Southerners, 3 Northerners Shortlisted

POLITICS of zoning, which has permeated the presidential system in the country, has effectively crept into the federal bureaucracy at the weekend, as President Goodluck has had to approve a new Head of Service of the Federation (HOS).

The tenure of incumbent HOS, Mr. Stephen Oronsaye, ends tomorrow when he turns 60 and the president will choose a replacement from a long list of candidates from the North and the South who are jostling for the top spot in Nigeria’s public service.

However, the president can extend Oronsaye’s tenure till December or May next year, to meet some political exigency in the presidency, as was done in the case of the Comptroller-General of Immigration recently before a replacement was named.

But that appeared unlikely in Oronsaye’s case last night. The chartered accountant-turned civil servant will tomorrow morning attend a morning mass in his church, receive a few friends and colleagues in his house in Abuja and return to the office to clear his table and say good bye to his staff and colleagues!

Meanwhile, the president that would have decided at the weekend is expected to announce a successor to Oronsaye from a list of six shortlisted permanent secretaries.
The Head of Service and some unofficial sources recommended some of the nominees.
The Guardian gathered from the presidency that politics of zoning would shape the choice of the new HOS.

The Chairman of the Federal Civil Service Commission, Alhaji Ahmed Al-Gazali is from Borno, Northeast while the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), Alhaji Mahmud Yayale Ahmed hails from Bauchi, Northeast.

“This will determine where the new Head of Service will come from,” said a presidency source yesterday.

It has been confirmed that three candidates from the three geopolitical zones in the South are in contention for the HOS job.

They are Professor Oladapo Afolabi, permanent secretary, Education (Oyo, Southwest) who was reportedly in contention when Oronsaye was preferred 17 months ago; Mrs. Elizabeth B.P Emuren, permanent secretary, Mines and Steel (Akwa Ibom, South-South) and Dr. D.B Ibe, permanent secretary, Economic Affairs (Imo State, Southeast).

Similarly, three contenders have emerged from the three geopolitical zones in the North. The shortlist includes Dr. Tukur Bello Ngawa permanent secretary, Ministry of Works (Katsina, Northwest); Alhaji Isa Sali, permanent secretary, Ministry of Power (Adamawa, Northeast) and Mr. S.B Ozigis, permanent secretary, Ministry of Interior (Kogi, North Central).

The Guardian gathered from one of the president’s men that the standing of Yayale Ahmed will be tested by this presidential dilemma: whether to tilt the balance of federal bureaucracy power in favour of the North or South.

The source said: “If the president wakes up tomorrow afternoon and announces a new Head of Service of northern extraction, the SGF’s office will have to be affected.

“The SGF and the two top positions in the Human Resources Management (HRM) Office of the federal bureaucracy, the Chairman of the Federal Civil Service Commission, the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation, created by the 1999 Constitution cannot come from a section of the country.”

In the same vein, the source said, “if the president decides to give the top job to a southerner, it means Alhaji Yayale Ahmed will survive till May 2010 or beyond.”

But another aide said the president was quite concerned about “credibility and courage of a successor to Oronsaye. He (the president) wants stability, too, as the mortality rate of federal officers has been so high since the Yar’Adua/ Jonathanadministration came on board.”

Meanwhile, the president is also said to have approved postings for permanent secretaries, which may be announced tomorrow as a new Head of Service is named.
The postings come as consequential vacancies that exist from the position where the new Head of Service emerges.

There are five vacancies to be filled through the normal examination system instituted by the Office of the Head of Service. The vacancies result from retirement of permanent secretaries from five states even as some have up to December this year to retire. The states affected are Enugu, Ondo, Jigawa, Kebbi and Gombe.

Dr. Goke Adegoroye (Ondo State) retired on 26 August this year as Permanent Secretary, Federal Capital Territory. Dr. Yahaya A. Abdullahi, permanent secretary, Niger Delta Ministry (Kebbi) is retiring in two weeks’ time. Alhaji S.D Kassim, permanent secretary, General Services Office (GSO) (Gombe) is retiring next month.

The president is reportedly troubled by instability in the polity, as a result of high turnover of permanent secretaries and Head of Service, the heart of the federal bureaucracy.
Said a top officer in the office of the president: “Since May 2007, when the Yar’Adua administration was sworn in, we have had too many Heads of Service and too many Permanent Secretaries. This week, we will be witnessing the swearing in of the fourth Head of Service after the retirement of Yayale Ahmed.

“They are Ebele Okeke, who was succeeded by Ms Ama Pepple, who spent exactly one year; Mr. Stephen Oronsaye will be leaving and a new one may emerge on Monday. That will be the fifth.

The presidential aide continued: “Even the political heads are unstable, as the Cabinet has witnessed too many disruptions in the last three and half years. The president is quite concerned about the absence of institutional memories in both the political and bureaucratic heads of the ministries, departments and agencies, (MDAs), the Finance Minister reportedly blamed last week for poor implementation of the 2010 budget.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29166:zoning-tension-as-president-appoints-new-head-of-service-tomorrow&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 8:25pm On Nov 14, 2010

alj harem:
he is itsekiri, why would u say u doubt it

do u have any evidence

Go hump one of your cousins you savage.

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 8:06pm On Nov 14, 2010

jason12345:
there is no way you can attack the yorubas in the west without attacking the mid west.

chyz, what up? why the statement?

who said anything about attacking? You and your Igbo/Biafran hatred is getting out of hand. And don't mention the "Midwest" because there is no "midwest". I guess you mean delta state where my people are from and I doubt you are even itsekiri for making that statement. And even if there was an attack and it was between West and East why world there be an "attack" on the area thats not involved.That area would just be bypassed. Look don't try to come out here with this west and "midwest' nonsense because the truth is majority of those in delta state don't even like westerners so don't try to incorporate Delta state with that Western nonsense.

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 7:50pm On Nov 14, 2010

jason12345:
why should we be afraid?

Didn't mention itsekiris.

Politics › Re: Jonathan Renames Liberty Stadium After Awolowo by chyz(m): 7:40pm On Nov 14, 2010

seanet02:
a fool for ever you shall ever be, so AWOLOWO should have allowed your blood thirty and inept ibo rulers to overrun and maimed his very own people. You are very silly*

Now before I start insulting you people like i happily may do depending on your response. Now first off, Biafran army does not =ibo or igbos. #2. according to nigeria, eastern civilians were not "Biafrans" they were "Nigerians" so then my question is why were they treated as if they were the ones fighting the war?? If I'm not wrong should starvation only has been given to the Biafran Army not innocent people? Also you call the "ibo"(whoever they are) i guess u meant biafrans blood thirsty but who was the cause of mass murder of innocent people? T Hmmm, i think awolowo definitely falls into that category. The biafrans never overun and maid awolowos people but he did theirs so i guess wen we go to war next its ok to go and slaughter all of the yoruba people for killing igbos in their land after all of the Igbos return back to the East? Because believe me once we all return back to the East that should be the time you should fear most.

Politics › Re: 449 Kidnappers Arrested In 7 Weeks by chyz(m): 6:46pm On Nov 14, 2010

I guess they all had shirts that said "Kidnapper" written across it.

Politics › Re: 2011: Buhari Rejects Tinubu As Running Mate by chyz(m): 3:21am On Nov 14, 2010

So basically is turning his back on Ribadu came back to bite him in the azz. He now cannot go back to Ribadu so i wonder what he plans to do now.

Politics › Re: 2011 & 2015: Where Ohanaeze Ndigbo Missed It by chyz(m): 2:57am On Nov 14, 2010

jason12345:
the agreement was between north and south not the geopolitical zones

Jason i think you are late on this issue. Hence, Zone-ing. NW,NE,NC,SW,SE,SS. There has been mass discussions about this on nairaland about this.You should check it in the search engine.

Politics › Re: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by chyz(m): 2:53am On Nov 14, 2010

SapeleGuy:
My guy, I think we have had enough exchanges on this section for you to realise I harbour no fear or bad feelings for anyone. We have a saying that 'when pikin dey play today e no dey remember say e fit cry tomorrow' A week is a long time in politics talk less of 2015?

We should consign this bastardised arrangement made by thieves to the dustbin and not compromise in our quest for true federalism.

All I am saying is that we should build houses on solid foundation. The current system is flawed. Do you honestly believe come 2015, Jonathan will say, I have done my 1 term, it is now the turn of Ndigbo?

I don't believe in the handing over the presidency just cause, but i do believe that by law if he is suppose to step down then he should step down and also I believe in a fair election because if there is cheating then so long nigeria. Although, i think either way there is going to be mayhem, fair or no fair.

Politics › Re: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by chyz(m): 2:35am On Nov 14, 2010

alj harem:
firstly, u do not understand the relationship between the sw and the midwest

secondly, why would the yorubas and northerns feed on the division of se ppl
pls can u explain

Pls wat is the relationship between the sw and midwest?

Politics › Re: 2011 & 2015: Where Ohanaeze Ndigbo Missed It by chyz(m): 2:34am On Nov 14, 2010

jason12345:
no, it because they view themselves as ONE. but the south does not, and it is not their fault since the amalgamation was between NORTH AND SOUTH not NORTH, WEST, EAST AND SOUTH-south.

Whether they view themselves as One or Two it doesnt matter they must go by the agreement and the agreement says presidency is zoned to the "NW". If they don't want to go by that then their complaining about jonathan is just hypocrisy.

Politics › Re: 2011 & 2015: Where Ohanaeze Ndigbo Missed It by chyz(m): 2:30am On Nov 14, 2010

jason12345:
hmmm? but that would not make a difference if GJ is elected because that means their is no zoning and it would be a free for all contest. the north is most likely to win and they might pick a yoruba vice because the west has more states that the east.

why would they pick a yoruba vice president when ACN will possibly take a good chunk of the SW vote from PDP, if GJ loses primaries and doesnt decamp then the north would have to pick a Vp from the East.

Politics › Re: 2011 & 2015: Where Ohanaeze Ndigbo Missed It by chyz(m): 2:25am On Nov 14, 2010

jason12345:
how?

By the zoning arrangement the presidency is supposedly zoned to the "NW". They have yet to produce candidates from that region to run for president;instead they are pushing for the candidacy of anybody from the north of their choice.

Politics › Re: 2011 & 2015: Where Ohanaeze Ndigbo Missed It by chyz(m): 2:19am On Nov 14, 2010

MetalGong4:
The current Ohaneze leadership lacks the credibility to be taken serious. I even heard that the so called endorsement was signed by Uwaechue and supported by some faceless politicians who are not known in their wards. . . . . . You cant compare the popularity and credibility of Igbo politicians who were behind the endorsement with that of people like Prof Soludo, Prof ABC Nwosu, Senator Ken Nnamani, Senator Jim Nwobodo, Alex Ekwueme, Dr Chris Ngige etc, who are strong supporters of the zoning arrangement.

It makes no difference who the igbo politicians are that are supporting zoning.The north is not obeying it.They cannot continue to have their cake and eat it.

Politics › Re: 2011 & 2015: Where Ohanaeze Ndigbo Missed It by chyz(m): 1:00am On Nov 14, 2010

Abu-Maryam:
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I doubt it, By the way things are going other political parties are preparing for northern candidates, if u get it right zoning is real. Jonathan is just like a man with big hammer in his hand, any mistake is like a nail. so he need to be dealt with in a style.

there are over 50 political parties so i doubt that.

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