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CultureRe: Help, My Happiness Is At Stake Because Of Tribal Issues by Chyz2: 2:18am On Oct 17, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
ROTFLMAO!!! I guess other tribes marrying Yoruba women marry them because they're not beautiful grin Stuck on their beauty indeed. I guess Yoruba men that goes back to their women got tired of the beauty. Wetin we no go hear on NL.

Yoruba women lovvvvvvvvvveeee Igbo guys, that shows a lot in NIgeria. We can see it. That's why many of you are saying that Yoruba women dont go for Igbo guys as much. Infact, the love is just blinding. Its there o. chaii!!!

Igbo men lucky say dem get money small, if not, those money hungry women go just depart to Yoruba men.


Its okay to try to console yourself jare.

Anyway to make Yoruba men seem less wanted, and igbo men feel wanted. . . . the grouse is with ya ladies sha. Try not to attack yoruba women in general. No be our fault o.  grin
just being real lol, didnt know what i said pained u this much lol
CultureRe: Help, My Happiness Is At Stake Because Of Tribal Issues by Chyz2: 1:58am On Oct 17, 2011
It's like this. Once you find what you like and the feelings become strong to DEATH, it's kind of hard to care about that other people say. If you are not strong headed or really not dedicated to the significant other, then if both parents are sternly against you marrying outside of your ethnic group then you will give in. Review your relationship. It seems like things are not as strong as it should be unless ur parents are warlords or something down that like then i can understand. My girl is yoruba and i couldn't give a damn less whether family members like it or not because truth is they are going to put up with it one way or the other. It may seem big now but later its nothing. This is if ur two's parents arent politicians and its SW vs SE or something lol.

@Andre,

About Igbo women going for yoruba guys, one thing u have to understand is that our people are widespread, our women are beautiful, and women just want to be treated right so is the right yoruba guy comes around then so be it. Truth be told, if anyone is to be blamed its the Igbo girls parents. Sorry to say but a lot of our women are too stuck on their beauty to the point their heads are way up there. Take into fact that Igbo men are naturally programmed not to bow down and take nonsense, on top of that, we are very industrious(so we keep it moving). When you put the two together it means those Igbo girls who are stuck up we usually rubbish them away and keep it moving. This happens even when we see then walk like they are high above. This is why you find a lot of our women getting married late. When they are late in age the yoruba man is still there to pick them up. This is what happens most of the time but not all. Hey if dude is young and got more swag than the rest them can you blame him,lol?

Yoruba women looooove Igbo guys, this is when they are still young,but we usually want to stick with Igbo women. That is why when it is around marriage age a lot of Igbo guys wont keep relations with yoruba women. Why we are like that exactly, idk. But inter-ethnic marriage aint that big of a deal.
CultureRe: Help, My Happiness Is At Stake Because Of Tribal Issues by Chyz2: 1:26am On Oct 17, 2011
Mod is their a reason why you spelled Igbo as "Ibo" when posting this thread on the front page? Are you not Nigerian, If you are, then you good and well know that it is Igbo and not Ibo! angry
PoliticsRe: Describe Bola Ahmed Tinubu In 2 Words by Chyz2: 1:38am On Oct 16, 2011
Typical Yoruba grin
CelebritiesChinua Achebe Is Africa’s Most Powerful Celebrity – Forbes by Chyz2(op): 11:51pm On Oct 14, 2011
[size=18pt]Achebe is Africa’s most powerful celebrity – Forbes[/size]

On October 14, 2011 · In News

By DANIEL IDONOR,  Abuja



American publishing and media company Forbes has named Nigerian novelist, Chinua Achebe better known as Chinua Achebe as the most influential celebrity in Africa.

Achebe ranks number one out of a list of 40 most influential celebrities which also includes actors, cerebral authors, musicians, movie producers, supermodels, TV personalities and athletes selected from all across the continent of Africa. The second position is occupied by Senegalese singer Youssou N’Dour, while the third position by Ivorian footballer and Chelsea FC centre forward Didier Drogba.

Chinua Achebe

The 40-man list selection involved picking out individuals with the highest number of votes from a vast nominations entry of 7,500 people. And then their media visibility (which includes exposure in print, television, radio and online), references on Google, TV/radio mentions and other mentions across continent.

A total of 11 Nigerians including Achebe are featured on the list. They include Noble laureate Wole Soyinka (6), Afrobeat maestro Femi Kuti (10), Nollywood star actress Genevieve Nnaji (19), Nigerian writer Chimamanda Adichie (32), hit producer Don Jazzy (36) and musicians 2face Idibia (34), Psquare (35), D’banj (37), Nneka (38) and Asa (39).


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/achebe-is-africa%E2%80%99s-most-powerful-celebrity-forbes/
PoliticsRe: Did Awolowo Have Friends From Outside The SW (read old W region)? by Chyz2: 8:28pm On Oct 14, 2011
Aigbofa:
Unconfirmed rumour? Of course he did. He also confiscated a lot of all ibo properties in Nigeria and gave them to Yorubas. Froze all ibo assets in Nigeria, gave them to Yorubas and gave ibos only N20 50 cents each [s]to buy guguru and epa for their garri.
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Sounds just about right. cool
EducationNsude Women Raise Funds For Projects by Chyz2(op): 8:18pm On Oct 14, 2011
[size=15pt]Nsude women raise funds for projects[/size]

On October 14, 2011 · In News , Tweet

By Ogechi Ohaegbulem



The Women Wing of Nsude Development Union (NDU), Lagos Branch on Saturday, October 8 gathered indigenes and friends of Nsude community resident in Lagos to raise the sum of N25m for the funding of some developmental projects in their community back home in Enugu state. The event which took place at the Digital Bridge Institute, Oshodi attracted the cream of the Igbo society.

Looking elegant in their yellow blouses and head ties on their grey wrappers, the women used the occasion to also showcase the richness of the people’s culture and true African womanhood with the determination to impact positively on their community.Giving an insight on the initiative, their chairperson, Mrs. Ngozi Udeh, said that the fund raised would be used to equip the Community Secondary School, Nsude with modern computers and a science laboratory. On that day, the women also launched their 2012 maiden almanac as well as uniform. Mrs Ude who is the Adadioranma of Nsude said the idea was conceived to support their husbands who had also been working hard to bring meaningful development to the community.

“As the saying goes, behind every successful man there is a woman. It was therefore our collective decision that we should not fold our arms and merely watch as spectators while our husbands toil day and night to make Nsude a better place”. She lamented that the Community Secondary School, which most of them passed through had degenerated into a deplorable state and needed the concerted efforts of all to return it to its rightful place.

Her words: “With the fund raised through your kind support, we shall embark on the establishment of an Information Technology Centre (ITC), in the school, with at least 10 computers with internet facilities for the students and even their teachers.” Chairman of the occasion, Sir Samuel Ude, who is Chief Executive Officer of Laudable Insurance Brokers Limitied, expressed joy that the women could conceive such a marvelous idea that would bring development to their community and allow students compete favourably with their peers worldwide.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/nsude-women-raise-funds-for-projects/
PoliticsRe: Why Did Awo Lose The 1979 Election? by Chyz2: 4:29pm On Oct 14, 2011
Eko Ile:
And we thank him for that. zik was not a tribalist, but kindly show us what ibo people benefited from that.
PoliticsRe: Why Did Awo Lose The 1979 Election? by Chyz2: 4:11pm On Oct 14, 2011
kbdrim:
Awolowo was a visionary leader for the yoruba race but he sure was an ethnic jingoist, Can anyone truelly tell me who awolowo's friends were outside of yoruba people, Im not talking of emergency alliances for election sake like his freindship with joseph tarka, Awo was a divisive leader and he could never had won elections in Nigeria. He was educated but politically he was very naive, he wanted to be seen as an icon and no one else could talk to him. he was an idealist but good politicians are realists. His friction with akintola and later joseph tarka showed that he lacked guile in dealing with conflicts, Its a huge challenge with intellectually minded people, they never recognise that being a student of life makes you a better leader in a multicultural country like Nigeria. Sir Ahmadu Bello knew that he was more of a regional leader and would have been a less successful leader at the national level hence his reason for picking tafawa belewa, Tafawa belewa is one person you might not like but you find it hard to hate him, ahmadu bello and awolowo sure had lots of haters,
cool
PoliticsRe: Why Did Awo Lose The 1979 Election? by Chyz2: 4:09pm On Oct 14, 2011
@Oko Ile

1.Which SW governors are paying the workers as we speak now?

2.SE govs were the first to agree on paying the minimum wage.

3. You listed Anambra because of strikes, so are you telling me there's no strikes/protests in Oyo, Lagos, Ekiti, now?
PoliticsApugo Condemns The Sacking Of Non-indigenes In Abia by Chyz2(op): 2:30pm On Oct 14, 2011
[size=15pt]Apugo flays Abia’s sack of non-indigenes[/size]

On October 14, 2011 · In News , Tweet

BY Anayo Okoli



Umuahia—ONE of the founding fathers of Abia State and an elder statesman, Prince Benjamin Apugo, yesterday condemned the ongoing disengagement of non-indigenes by the state government from its work force, saying that it would sow the seed of discord among states in the South East.

Describing the policy as “unpopular and ill-advised”, Apugo called on Governor Theodore Orji to immediately halt the exercise, pointing out that already, it had pitched Abia State against other states of the country.  He urged him not to allow the situation to escalate.

He stated that the unpopular policy would make nonsense of the unity of the nation in general and Ndigbo in particular.

According  to him, Abians are already being exposed to attacks and ridicule in public places such as the airports.

Apugo, the first prominent Abia indigene to condemn the controversial exercise, said  some of those affected by the sack policy were born in the state and contributed to its development, insisting that it would be inhuman to wake up one day and sack them from their work.

Condemning the action, the elder statesman faulted the reason of inability to pay N18,000 minimum wage given by the government, and advised the government to negotiate with the workers based on its resources.

“As a Nigerian, I don’t support what Abia State government is trying to do by disengaging non-indigenes. Many of them were born here and they were employed in the civil service by the state.

“It will look very bad for any government to throw them out because they have contributed to whatever development, if any, as at now.

“I am not in Abia State Government. I am speaking as a true Abian. Government can negotiate with its workers for salary. Disengaging them is not the best thing for the government to do. If the government goes ahead with this unpopular exercise, it will backfire.

“If the other 35 states retaliate, will Abia State be able to accommodate those to be returned to the state? The answer is no. The best thing for the government to do to avoid bad blood is to negotiate. The policy is unpopular; they should not go ahead with it.”


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/apugo-flays-abias-sack-of-non-indigenes/
PoliticsSacked Imo Indigenes Return Home by Chyz2(op): 2:17pm On Oct 14, 2011
[size=15pt]Sacked Imo indigenes return home[/size]

On October 14, 2011 · In News , Tweet

BY CHIDI NKWOPARA




OWERRI-About 19 Imo indigenes sacked from Abia Broadcasting Corporation, BCA, as a result of the indigenisation policy of Abia State Government have reported their plight to Imo State Government.

Confirming the development to Vanguard, the Commissioner for Information and Strategy, Dr. Obinna Duruji, also confirmed that those sacked from the health sector had equally returned home.

He said: “About 19 Imo indigenes sacked from BCA, Umuahia, have returned home. The same is also true of those from the health sector. They have formally reported to my office.”

He said government had not taken any retaliatory action against Abia indigenes working in the state, adding that it was still studying the incident critically.

“Government’s approach to the summary sack of Imo indigenes on the payroll of Abia State government is not to retaliate. Paying evil for evil will further destroy what remains of Igbo unity,” Dr. Duruji said.

The commissioner confirmed that the affected workers had already forged a common front, written Imo State government and attached their sack letters, stressing that even Abia daughters married to Imo indigenes were not spared the ordeal.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/sacked-imo-indigenes-return-home/
PoliticsRe: Imo State On The Road To Anguish by Chyz2: 2:16pm On Oct 14, 2011
Bad way for the PDP to build propaganda against Rochas. Using claim of "Masters from Anambra and other states"? Lol. Are people from Anambra not Igbo? Is Imo not Igboland? Look how many private businesses are owned by Imolites,especially in Onitsha. Abia the same. Also, who are the other states? PDP's time is up in Imo.
CultureRe: Ndigbo How Come? by Chyz2(op): 10:57pm On Oct 13, 2011
ezeagu:
I thought kwenu was more of a recent thing?
What makes you think that?

Not really, but maybe that's because of outside influence, most of the Niger Igbo (Anioma) have a solo man as their leader while the rest of the Igbo do not. There are also 'royal families' which are hard to find (well, any before 1800) on the other side of the Niger.
Lets take out "same" societal structure, because there are variances. As for Anioma, lets talk about the society before the benin invasion.


Yeah, there's a centre, probably inhabited by early bushmen as described in Nri myth, but that's all mostly forgotten now.
Some 'clans' didn't exist before 1500, let alone 1000. The Igbo groups just migrated from a smaller homeland and absorbed some influences/developed some variations along the way. That's just what I think.
Spot on.


Then we can't talk about religion or 1/3 of Igboland.
Was trying not to inflame the "independents". grin
CultureRe: Ndigbo How Come? by Chyz2(op): 10:46pm On Oct 13, 2011
ChinenyeN:
People want to claim to talk 'facts', but yet will ask "where is the proof?" that we lived independently of each other or that we were not united before the British showed up. Honestly, I don't get it. Traditions are rather explicit. History is rather explicit, yet some people are swearing on their progenitors' graves that there is/was a 'center' which we all acknowledged.
Well the fact of the matter is that you know no more than the next man so who is wrong and who is right?

How come it is only Igbo people who have this insatiable urge to forge an image of a time before time, when we all gathered around the same camp fire declaring our oneness, especially in the face of traditions which explicitly state otherwise?
Igbos the only people? And which traditions states "explicitly" otherwise?


Anyway, I don't know where the word 'eze' came from (though I have my presumptions), but one thing I do know though is that 'eze' as 'king' or 'ruler' or 'landlord' is a new thing, at least in my society/community.
Any proof?  grin


"Kwenu" is a call to order, used in oration if someone wants insure that he/she has the floor and the attention of the audience. I cannot attest to the antiquity of "kwenu" but what I am positive about is that it is not at all popular with my grandparent's generation. I can't even recall anyone from that time period making active use of that call in this day. My father and uncles and aunts sometimes use it though, but not as a primary call.
i guess the other call must be "keleni/nu"?

As for societal structures, I don't know what your facts are, but we did not all have the same societal structure and institutions. Tell me, can you honestly sit here and blatantly say that "Ngwa and Nri had the same societal structure and institutions", without feeling as though they are lying to yourself? Truth is we cannot make such a comment.
Like i said, there are variations.
PoliticsRe: Why Did Awo Lose The 1979 Election? by Chyz2: 9:24pm On Oct 13, 2011
T8ksy:
And the northerners who perpetuated the war acquiesed to the idea and enforced it!!!

The same northerners that the ibos in their infinite wisdom chose to s.uck up to 9years later.
Boo hoo! cry. . . He never became president and that is that. Gbam! Gbosa! cheesy
PoliticsRe: Why Did Awo Lose The 1979 Election? by Chyz2: 9:11pm On Oct 13, 2011
T8ksy:
Afoju!!! I suppose you haven't yet discern the folly in ibo's persistent support for the north.

Oh well, see how far your bootlicking (of the north) has got the whole country to.

Awo didn't starved millions of ibo people rather it was ojukwu who did by carrying on with the war even as thousands of his people were dying everyday from hunger.

The cold-hearted bas.tard even exploited the horrendous plights of his people to fund and maintain his egocentric war.
Agwo!!!


It was that nerd-looking coward of a bytch Awolowo that came up with the starvation idea.

The irony of a yorobo speaking of another group licking northern azz. . .lolz cheesy
PoliticsRe: Northerners Given Ultimatum To Quit Niger Delta By Militants by Chyz2: 8:36pm On Oct 13, 2011
phreakabit:
Nope I am Igbo. BTW I had no idea you were from the ND. Anyway shouldn't you be on the side of "Your people"?
well "My people" the Anioma(Igbos), are in the Niger Delta. "My people" are in Rivers(Igbos). I take offense when another ethnic group is trying to lord over "my people", Igbos in ND, which later on, as proved by recent actions of Ijo, will claim our land as theirs. Btw, stop being a hypocrite. wink
PoliticsRe: Why Did Awo Lose The 1979 Election? by Chyz2: 8:25pm On Oct 13, 2011
T8ksy:
And who did the east supported? A split between Zik's NPP (a no-hoper) and Ekweume's NPN.

The ibos allied with the north in both the first and the second republic. Even as the north continue to massacre them in their enclave.
So because of the "north" massacring Igbos we should have supported a yoruba(Awolowo) that starved millions of Igbos and minority groups? undecided

Hypocrite!
CultureRe: Ndigbo How Come? by Chyz2(op): 7:34pm On Oct 13, 2011
ChinenyeN:
I'm not sure if you know this, but a number of communities didn't have Eze's until the British showed up.
A number of the communites still do not have kings.  That is besides the point. Where did the "eze" come from? Was it a word solely from a particular Igbo clan or is it a word that was created not too long ago? Are we saying that "eze" was never used in igbo naming,even in communities who now have no king, such as 'Akobueze, Ezeagu, or chibueze?

Kwenu isn't anything special. "Kwe" (agree) is a common verb in Igbo. I hear that even Edo use "kwe". That aside, the whole point of gatherings is to come to a consensus. "Kwe" means agree, it would only make sense to have "kwe nu" as a calling to consensus during the gatherings. "Kwe" isn't unique.
The Kwenu is a unique calling. Also, the way it is done [Che,che,  Kwenu] is unique. The extra before the kwenu is not need for gathering. It is something that must have been put together collectively as a culture and people. It would make no sense for a people who are "different" and had "nothing to do with each other/independent" to be doing the exact practice through the gatherings and in the same way. I know what kwe is. The meaning of the word is not the point. Edos also use "oma"(good) undecided. There definitely a oneness that led to this "kwenu" thingy.


If I were you, I wouldn't go around making this assumption
Its not an assumption, it's fact. Of course there are variances but overall they are the same.
CultureRe: Ndigbo How Come? by Chyz2(op): 6:28pm On Oct 13, 2011
@chinenye, u don't believe in the Nri hegemony so I don't get how its not relevant if nri isn't talked of in this discussion. On top of that,since nri has nothing to do with ur clan then u should be able to answer the questions without mentioning Nri.
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo Will Produce Nigeria’s President In 2015 – Ohaneze by Chyz2: 5:54pm On Oct 13, 2011
Maximip:
Not a bad idea but the current stock of igbo politicians can't make it.
Neith yoruba or Hausa, so the country should just split.
PoliticsRe: Northerners Given Ultimatum To Quit Niger Delta By Militants by Chyz2: 5:51pm On Oct 13, 2011
phreakabit:
My comments were self explanatory. If it has to do with hostilities between to ethnic groups outside the Igbo race, stay away from it or at least tread with caution.
This has to do with my people, Niger Deltans. What are you talking about? undecided

Are you even from the Niger Delta?
CultureNdigbo How Come? by Chyz2(op): 5:48pm On Oct 13, 2011
It is believed that we Ndigbo come from different ancestries. Although I myself believe this assersion, there is nothing you unique about this happening; other ethnic groups(major and minority) also have the same story.  Assimilation and aculturation are major factors for the fattening of once ethnic group. However, if you cannot see your back to the point you are able to pin point what you were or came from,especially with documentation, you are stuck with what you are presently and what is in front of you;this is what you can speak about clearly.

We make come from different non-Igbo ancestries or claim to come from; however, now we speak a language, practice a culture, and are known as Igbo. For those who say we were different people who had a related laguage but were never united,where is the proof?

Questions to answer:

1. If the the people known as "Ndigbo" today never had a king which they all fell under were did the word "Eze" come from? It is a word that is definitely not new to us.

2. How is it that these "different and independent people" from the top to the bottom of todays "Igbo" land all practiced/practice the calling of "Kwenu" during gatherings?

3. Why do the people have the same societal structure and traditional govermental systems(titles included)?

There must me a centre/origin of the people who gave us our language and we had a name and i doubt it was "Igbo". Lets get real.


From my views, there various clans within the Igbo ethnicity may have come about from the fall of an old kingdom or empire. This could have happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. Our history definitely does not start at the recordings by Europeans. Many wars,treaties,etc. have come and passed ages ago even before the Europeans stepped foot on Africa.

What do you think?


[B]P.S. PLEASE DO NOT BRING ANY NRI OR JEWISH STUVS IN HERE![/b]
PoliticsRe: Northerners Given Ultimatum To Quit Niger Delta By Militants by Chyz2: 4:47pm On Oct 13, 2011
phreakabit:
Learn to stay out of issues that wouldn't be of any benefit to you! If they feel they can defeat those animal-like abokis so be it! A genoci_ _ _ will be very much appreciated.
Explain. undecided
PoliticsRe: GEJ Denies Favouring Niger-Delta Zone Over Others by Chyz2: 4:44pm On Oct 13, 2011
Where else do where here about FG projects going on outside of the Niger Delta, the "Real Niger Delta". We all no of course those major ND projects don't go to Imo,Abia, Edo, or Ondo just areas where there are losts of Ijaws.


“Also, the misleading analysis of Federal Government projects by Daily Trust deliberately excluded data from January and February, and from September to the end of the year, thereby ignoring the fact that while a region may appear to dominate project awards in quarterly or half-year reports, other regions may ultimately record higher figures at the end of the year.
^^^If this is the case why not release your proof?
PoliticsRe: Northerners Given Ultimatum To Quit Niger Delta By Militants by Chyz2: 4:34pm On Oct 13, 2011
Okija_juju:
I cant wait to see what happens when these Boko boys bring the fight to the militants in the creeks, That would be something.
There are no more militants in the creeks. That is the funny thing about it. The army/JTF has taken control of all the former "Militant" creeks. This is why these faceless people have now started a routine of coming out in newspapers once a month making the same statements with no actions.

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