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Negro_Ntns:
Chyz,

Until you meet my challenge to you, Edo is Yoruba.

The only way you can prove otherwise is to bring an Edo person of deep knowledge of his culture to come and erect a virtual foundation of his ancestry here.

Everyone is waiting I'm sure to witness the face off.

So shut up and walk the talk. All that "gbosa" you are doing will not resolve the distortions.

We want an A to Z reconstruction.

I am ready whenever your expert is.

And till you prove otherwise, yorubas came from Igbos-FACT. . .Liver with it!

tpia@:
^^what's with the americanese.

oya, post something good about yorubas here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-701804.0.html

i really dont have time for all this ethnic jingoism sha.

unless, of course, it becomes a problem.

Tpia, i will post something when the time comes . . .

I stay away from tribalism as much as possible. Im not a tribalist. . . .why u keep ignoring a brotha?

tpia@:
geez, what happened to you.

Gotta teach him. No offense to you though. You know i luuuuuv u girl! Too bad ya never reply a dude

tpia@:
didnt you post this

That post still stands;however, it doesn't mean i wont throw fire when need be.

tpia@:
and didnt you use to preach about the quran in the islamic section.

Oooh,lol. So you've witnessed my great works in the islamic section. Even though Im doing bad doesnt mean i cant encourage/teach others to do whats right.

Negro_Ntns:
Nobody is claiming Edo. I'm removing distortions from the stoiry

Yea, remove u distorted azz from this section.

Andre Uweh:
Have mercy on him Chyz nwa Ukwuani, Chinenye has given him some extra-moral classes today.

He's walked down the wrong street again nwannem. I will teach him.

Negro_Ntns:
Did you just repeat the same error you made couple of nights ago? You are dropping your Ibo identity and alling yourself Edo.

Teach us the history of Edo. Tell us the beginnings of Edo.

I was never ibo to begin with. I am Igbo(from anioma), though . Igbo is an ethnicity, edo is a group of related ethnicities.

You soooo badly want to be a part of the Edo people,lol. Sorry, too bad for you. You are a stinking Yoruba. Your culture is even boring and colorless. Lmao!

Negro_Ntns:
I see, I have taught you well. Good job!!

When you see an Edo man that says they are not Yoruba tell him Negro says the opposite and he should come talk to me and teach me what I don't know.

And when you see a Yoruba man who says is not Esan,let me know.

Negro_Ntns:
I say you go bring the challengers to my claim that Edo is Yoruba and then you can take a spectator sit and learn while me and the Edo representatives explore the archives.

Boy, get your pen and paper and take notes from Negro.

lol, you are claiming what I am a part of. Edo is not even a tribe or ethnic group. Stop this your gbogbo!

Negro_Ntns:
Lol!

If you couldn't give a sh+yt about Yoruba so then why is it causing you to hit your head on the wall?

Yoruba gave birth to Bini which gave birth to Lagos and which was on the verge of extinctuion but was sustained by the seed of Ijesha.

So Yoruba and Edo are one, beginning in Ife and ending in Lagos.

What's your pain? Lmao!

Wrong, not even your powerless obas would ever make that claim. lol

Also, now your saying you yorobos started in Ife again, didnt you just say you people came from the middle east,lol

The great Edo nation concured ur people. No Edo man will ever claim oness with the Yorubas. Stop land grabbing and claiming people who dont even speak the same language as you.

hadg33:
@Chyz,not bullshit,you should try and learn from him

Learn how to be illogical,lol? i think not. Na ur problem be that.

Negro_Ntns:
You said my claim that "early Bini kings were buried in Ife" was a lie.

So I'm asking you that if that was a lie, how would you classify the claim that "early Lagos kings were buried in Bini"?

Like i said binis concord various yoruba clans and established a kingdom in lagos. The king of lagos as we speak is Bini. Its the same way a fulani is ruling over your people in Ilorin,lol.

Negro_Ntns:
Lmao!

Chyz, was that your head hitting the wall? Please don't hurt yourself, this is nothing more that knowledge sharing.

Oh, you know what I forgot, to add that the draft of a book submitted by Bishop Crowther to the CMS for their help with its publication was reported lost by Oyiboman. In that book, the Bishop had outlined in specifics and connected the Yoruba people to their roots in Afro Asia.

One has to wonder why he was interested in such endeavor. For someone who was sold into slavery and but for the Grace of God would have remained permanently disconnected and lost from his people and culture and heritage, it was a personal challenge to see how far back in history he can actually go to the root of the culture he knew as Yoruba.

In the 1800s, English language has not been rooted as our tongue.

Like i made clear before, i couldnt give two shyts abt yoruba origin. As long as you dont drag the edo people into it then, you can go screw urselves as much as you want.

Negro_Ntns:
Lmao@chyz. You are funny! You lack the depth and endurance to spar with me on the Yoruba/Edo controversy. I suggest you go bring a true Edo man who has a deep knowlledge of his history to face me on this debate.

I did not spend 12yrs researching my roots for nothing.

Just like a funny Yoruba, all of you cunts run from my when it comes to talking logic. Read from page one and learn,k?

Negro_Ntns:
On the burial of Bini kings in Ife, is it also a lie that early Lagos kings are buried in Bini?

Do you hear yourself,lol? You just said that your previous claim of Bini kings having burials in Ife is a lie! LMAO! Dummy[i][/i]!

Also, it is a known fact that the former kings and king of Lagos are of Bini ancestry(they are Bini)!

Negro_Ntns:
[s]Edo is Yoruba.

You are Ibo, your sense and knowledge of heritage is pegged to language usage, which is a commonality across broad cultural backgrounds. The people you call Ibo today are those whose ancetral language were at one time Yoruba, Ibibo, Ijaw, Idoma and so on. Their unification under the Ibo grouping was cosmopolitan and not indigenous. For that reason your tribe is a little of everybody else's heritage. You are a contribution or a complement, in you everyone see a drop of their customs and heritage.

Yorubas use of language on the other hand is spiritual and has not departed from its roots which is old Hebrew, the language in which the Old Testament (Torah) was written. Matter of fact, the New Testament (Gospel) was also written in it.

When in 1850 Bishop Ajayi Crowther translated the English Bible to Yoruba, he contemplated using the "Ajami" (a literary style of writing shared among Semitic tongues but popularized in Islam) for the Yoruba version.

Yoruba language has stood on its own and survived through the ages, where other tongues have perished and lost to the times.

Ifa survived in Americas because its oral tradition was communicated in Yoruba language. If it had been in Engish it would have perished with the vagaries of slavery.

The language we call Yoruba is truly Old Hebrew. The ancestor of the Edos (Edomites) was the older brother of Jacob (later called Israel and the ancestor of the Children of Israel). They also spoke old Hebrew.

Through this analogy hopefully you will understand that language usage in Yorubaland is different from language usage in Iboland and when I say Yoruba and Edo are the same, their spirituality is tied together in customs, heritage and history, both are of old Hebrew. [/s] On the burial of Bini kings in Ife, is it also a lie that early Lagos kings are buried in Bini?

Bullshit, Gbosa!!!

I'm ressurecting this thread for all the Yoruba revisionist such as, Negro_Mtn.

Negro_Ntns:
You have to go by three fators.

1. Language
2. Customs and rituals
3. In accordance with customs, early Bini Kings were buried in Ife.

Yea lets go by those. Early Bini kings were NEVER buried in Ife. This is a lie thrown out by your shameless people because of an inferiority complex to the rich Benin Kingdom. As for language, come on son, even Igbo have more in common with the bini language than Yoruba does,lol. Customs and rituals? Dont make me laugh. The people they call "Yoruba" today dont even have a homogenous culture.

I couldnt care less about Yoruba culture, just dont bring Edo into,k?

Negro_Ntns:
Edo is clearly a Yoruba nation.

On the rest of what you wrote, that's your opinion, feel free to express it.

Edo will NEVER be yoruba anything!

How did Anioma, Urhobo, Isoko, Bini, Esan,Etsako because Yoruba? lol. . .

Yoruba have even gone as far as to start there history based on the coming of an Edo man, Oduduwa. Can you tell me the meaning of Oduduwa in your language? I can in mine.

Negro_Ntns:
Apparently you missed where I said I owe you no expression of wisdom.

I cannot have love for anyone who despises the foundation of who I am.

Ibos despise Yorubas. So do not expect a paddy-paddy response from Negro. The bet you will get from me is politeness and even that is conditional.

Igbos dont despise Yorubas, its just that Yorubas are so darn envious of us, you are a good example of that. One of the main problem of your people is that you people dont know how to mind your own. You base your achievements off of the achievements of others. Pretty pathetic. And like-wise dont expect any "paddy-paddy" response from Chyz neither or even politeness.

Negro_Ntns:
The Yoruba in Nigeria is a commonwealth of Nations. A race of people with roots in Afro Asia.

Ijesha, Awori, Egba, Edo, Itsekiri.

Yoruba is the umbrella or the aggregator of the different nations.

There are also others in Yorubaland who are of indigenous roots but trhough war and conquest became tributaries of Yorubaland.

The Yorubas of today contain the nations of Egba, Ijebu, Itsekiri, Edo, Ajashe, Ilaje, Ijesha, and so on.

For example, the Ijebus are Canaanites of old. The Edos are also Canaanites. The Oyos are Kushites of Old and so is Ife the Kushites of old.

There are several independent researchers, none of them with any personal interest in Yoruba who have clearly said that Yoruba is an Afro Asia root. Even a former Caliph (Sultan) of Sokoto even wrote a book in which he clarified it.

You are correct there are many Yorubas who do not know the history and need to know. So I'm glad that they are here to learn it.

Stop adding Edo. Speak for your own people. Its funny how you say that the people called "Yoruba" today dont know their own history but you do,lol. I guess you are the progenitor. Yorubas were never one. Dont you forget that. Yoruba is not a race and never will be one. It's also a shame how you regard a sultan of sokoto's words of orgination of some of your people and rubbish the beliefs of orgination that your people came up with. Sounds like an inferiority complex to me. A fulani man knows "your" history better than you.In fact, you might as well say he knows your history and you dont.

Negro_Ntns:
Chyz,

It is easy for people to quickly jump to conclusion that if you talk about Noah, Abraham or Afro-Asia or Middle East, then you are talking about Jews.

Unless the claim is explicit, you can't conclude as such.

Yorubas are proto-Semitic, not Jews, not Arabs, but a member of the Semitic roots.

That's complete nonsense. Its clear you people dont know where you're from. I thought you all said the world began at Ife? There's no proto-semitic, either you are or you're not. Some time ago one of you claim Yorubas were from an oriental background,lol. You dont know where yo're from and your so-called, Oba cant agree on that either. Seems to me you people came from different place and if thats not the case, you just dont know where you're from,period.

Gayigaskia:
Sambo is a fulani name ,you can find it all over west Africa.

If the bolded is true, then it supports the article even more because the Vp is said to be a full-blooded Hausa man, meaning not a drop of Fulani blood. In that case the sir name "Sambo" would be look at as a cover-up of his real identity.

Negro_Ntns:
Sango was a ruler of Oyo empire and was later deified after death.

On Ifa and its origin, I am of the opinion that it originated as one of the secrets given by God to Noah in the template handed down for the Ark.

Ask Pastor AIO, I'm sure he has a different and more specific origin to reference.

Like I said what I gave you is just my opinion and is formed from my understanding of the Torah, Bible and the Quran.

Ifa was with mankind before Abraham (AS) was even born, I said to clarify any thought of believing Ifa was derived from any of the scriptures. It existed before them!

Matter of fact some of the rituals of Ifa is also present in Islam as well as Judaism.

So Yorubas are Jews now? Lmao!

Negro_Ntns:
Chinenye,

It appears you are bothered by my persistence on this matter of roots and origin, right?

Just lettin you know what is. Stop tooting your own horn. Obviously, you get no babez,lol. Searching the net up and down all day for igbo matters. Like i said before stop this your gbogbo!

Whoever things David Mark is not Igbo is fooling themselves. GEJ, Nnamdi Sambo, and David Mark have succeded in carrying out a hidden Igbo agenda. It is actually an Igbo coup, ask katsumoto. Goodluck Jonathan and David Mark have converted their sirnames to english names in order to jump ship. Goodluck Jonathans actual name is Jonathan Goodluck(Ihuoma) and David Alechenu<---an igbo/idoma name. Goodluck jonathan is from Otueke,Bayelsa,which is an Igbo-speaking area of Bayelsa and David mark is from Otukpo, which is where the indigenous Igbo-speaking people of Benue State is located,hmm . I get it now, GEJ- from the Igbo outskirts of the SE, Otueke, Bayelsa State, Sambo- originally from the Igbo outskirts of the SE, Igbanke, Edo state, and David Mark- from the Igbo outskirts of the SE as well, Otukpo, Benue State! So David Mark's continuous wearing of the Igbo rap cap is just a big "fukc You, I'm Igbo and we still runnin shyt" to the northerners.


The Igbos have done it again!!!

ola_pluto:
Well, then we can count another 50 years of being 'secretary of state' or toothless Biafra champions. You need to wake up and smell the coffee. Nigeria is moving and we're not in 1970 anymore. Vote for who you like, I am quite confident a Yoruba man will be in Aso Rock within the next 3 elections, cant say such about Igbo though.

So be it. Another 50 yrs it is.

ola_pluto:
If indeed Fashola is 'rested' and an Igbo presidency develops enough storm, then Ngige will be a good sell. He has the sympathy of SW and hopefully his Igbo brothers can get themselves together to support one of their own. NC can produce the VC. I will especially choose a Kwaran to gather enough Yoruba votes, Muslim votes, Middlebelt votes, and worry less about the NW and NE. It is obvious now that the politics of any candidate from NE and NW anytime soon is going to be that of religion and tribe/region, hardly on any substance. Until a real MAN comes out of NW/NE region, I doubt they can get the sympathy of Nigerian voters. By real man, I mean someone ready to offer his brain and not his tribe as an election manifesto.

If you think we Igbos are going to vote for Ngige, then you can forget it.