₦airaland Forum

exotik:
^yeah ryt. it just seems everyone else are the migrants apart from the igbos.

so when did the yorubas in aniomaland migrate there? since u claim it happened recently, u must have dates and stories to back it up. and oh, don't tell me dat same old story used for other so-called migrants. the yorubas were at war with other and they had to flee. it just seems every other group was at war but the docile igbos were busy sleeping and licking each others arses while fleeing groups occupied their lands.

and why do i need to check my posts? any specific reason that i would give a shyte about?

Negro_Ntns:
I don't care what you call them. What we call them is what matters - and we call them Yorubas. That's what they have identified and wish to be known that's why Dede is upset with them and their oloza.

You didn't know that? you are worse than a dummy!

Negro_Ntns:
Dede,

I dare you to touch those people. Everything with Ibo written on it and located in the West will become ashes. We will then send the ashes to East in their respective caskets.

agbotaen:
[s]1. using the ika population projection of the 1996 census the ika people in delta state is put at about 500,000 people this year , while the population for ika as at 1996 was put at about 240,0000. thousand ,and we still have other ika people in edo state like the igbanke people and others like the owa people in owa iru ,owa nikeke and owa riuzor idu , and in obazagbon nugu areas so that is very much to form a country as there are some countries that are not up to 500,000 people , not to talk about ikas in diaspora outside of ika land in big cities , towns and many countries .
2. in ancient times ika area started as kingdoms and states of their own and later the area was conquered by benin kings and became part of the benin empire.
3. later on many of the kingdoms in ika land became independent of benin, and became entities of their own,.
4. ika is not the smallest ethnic group in nigeria , and so if nigeria breaks up God forbid , we will decided what to do and if we want to align with people , we know those to align with and those not to align with .
5. agbor was formerly a large kingdom , which had or controlled towns farther than were it is today, it controlled many towns even up to igbudu in the olden days , but later many of these towns became independent ,while some remained with agbor .
6. ozanogogo are edoic people and they are ika people because of the long history of relationship with agbor kingdom, they are a part and parcel of agbor kingdom. according to some traditions they were warriors stationed by the oba to prevent strangers from entering benin, while some agbor traditions say they migrated around the 10th century from benin into agbor and the then king of agbor called ogele ,later gave some of them land to reside near the ogele palace ,and they were used to protect the king because they were great warriors and medicine me- ewaise .they had the poison we call edide in ika. and they were later given chiefthancy titles too. they also play a role in the crowning of the dein of agbor.
the present dein of agbors mother is from ozanogogo , she is the queen mother of agbor , however what they want to do with themselves is their free right, as every one has the freedom to decide what they want to be, even if they decided to break from agbor they will still be related to agbor and ika people.
7. owa kingdom too experienced that too , according to some elders in owa they believe that idumuesah kingdom was part of owa and it was called owa idumuesah, but however they broke away to found their own kingdom, but many idumueash people i meet told we that they were never part of owa ,but were at a time subdued by the british and placed under owa and later they became free, however i do know owa and idumuesah has a contigous area ,as theya very near each other and i do know that every owa oyibu person has a family in idumuesah including my own family as one of my fathers uncle was the chief priest of olobume shrine , his name was erikume , he lived for 140 years.he was the fourth person to use iron roofing sheet to build.in idumuesah kingdom.
8. also the people of emuhun a town that is part of agbor also from time to time want to quit agbor kingdom as they believe they were a kingdom before they were subjugated , but some agbor elders say they were part and parcel of agbor kingdom, as during the regency period before the dein took over the sit of his ancestors some communities wanted to break away , like ozanogogo, emuhun and oki , but it was not successful - these people never said they were not ika people , they only wanted to be autonomous thats all .
9. one of the praises of the dein of agbor was -
do dein,
ogiazun gbome ohinmin- which means dein who used his back to cover or block the river niger .
10. actually in ancient times agbor was the most powerful kingdom in ika land and outside of benin they wielded great power they controlled many towns even close to the river niger and they collected tributes from many kings .
it is on record that it iwas agbor that seized the trade route of river niger from benin,during the time of oba ovarewen and that is why benin wanted to wage war against agbor , in fact it was the british conquest of benin that did not allow the war to take place,as the oba had stationed 10,000 soldiers at ologbo and another 10,000 at obadan ready for war , as at that time benin power was down ,because the itsekiris sized the benin river trade route with the great itsekiri war lord nana and chief don numa dealing with the british , while agbor had already seized the river niger trade routes .
11. agbor tradition tells us that when the dein/obi of agbor dies he is buried with many people including a king in the present delta north area[/s]

agbotaen link=topic=458875.msg8840894#msg8840894 [s:
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for the person , saying i am claiming agbor , right from the beginning of many of my write ups, i have always said i am from owa and i am very proud of my ancestory, i hail from the idumu-ezomor village of owa oyibu , headquarters of owa kingdom, and i am a descendant of kings and princes in owa.
2. not to bore readers in journalism we say facts are sacred and opinion can be twisted , owa kingdom is the second largest kingdom by size and population in ika land , second only to agbor in terms of population.
3. owa is the local govt.headquarters of ika north east local govt , while agbor is the local govt headquaters for ika south.
4. agbor and owa are very close as they are a stone throw from each other, infact the area many people call agbor today includes owa land, the most famous and developed area in ika land is bojiboji area, and it belongs to agbor and owa, the old lagos asaba express way is the demarcation. where you have zenith bank is bojiboji agbor and where you have oceanic bank is bojiboji owa .
5. out of these two , there is more economic development in bojiboji owa area , there is also development in bojiboji agbor , in these two places all the elites from ika land , always cheerish to own a house there ,.
6. owa is a famous kingdom , infact the dein of agbor and the obi of owa are the two most famous kings in ika land , and the two most recognised , in 1913 our obis of owa and agbor who were both edaiken - efeizomor hezekiah of owa and gbenoba of agbor were sent by the british to go for a 6 month course on how to govern the kingdom in benin., obi of owa -efeizomor the second , is in africa who is who ,year book and the dein of agbor is also there , no other ika king has made it till date .
7. owa kingdom become very famous ,when in 1906 we single handedly fougth a war with the british, and they suffered many losses ,and captain crewe reade was beheaded in owanta , then owa was conquered , this made the british to fear agbor district , because all ika area was called agbor district as at then
8. owa kingdom is the most politically powerful in ika land as per people who have been holding political office and other offices in ika land .owa has made ika people proud in many areas -
9. right now an owa man is the highest political office holder in ika and delta north in person of chief arthur ifeanyi okowa, and we have an ambassador godson echegile, and we have kingsley emu as commissioner of commerce and industry in delta state.
10. right from pre-colonial times we had chief edward anuku as a minister in old western region, we had chief iwerebor as a councillor in old western region, we had captain anuku as the first nigerian naval officer who trained in england, we also produce first ika person to win miss, nigeria in rita anuku, first ika person to be deputy governor in sam ebonka, the first african to head longman international ,in chief iwerebor, frontline journalist nduka irabor, and nduka obaigbena- president newspaper proprietors association of nigeria and this day publisher, rt, major generals usiade-former director army fianance, general osokogu, general osaigbovou, former deputy inspector general of police ugbaja and a host of others, we had chief ohen first ika lawyer , mrs olomu the first ika female graduate and others.
11. we also produced the first ika person and the first non-yoruba to become the head of the anglican church in nigeria in person of dekenriehi orogodo okoh and our obi is the most educated obi in ika land dr.emmanuel efeizomor the second .
12. those who dont know ika and owa history should ask and not speculate , no owa person would claim to be from another place ,because we have a proud legacy in ika , we are strong and influencial .
13. i want to make a point in owa history for those who do not know -
a. odogun was the first king of a unified owa kingdom and his brother was said to be ozomor who founded owa alizomor , according to owa history
b. OWA ALIZOMOR is a town in owa and it is made up of four villages , out of which three were founded by the children of ozomor while one was founded by another person.
c. ozomors three children were ogbe, ose and ille , while the ousider was iruh
that is why you have 1. idumu ogbe, idumu ose and idumu ille - these names were surely bini /edoic names , however owa also have migrations from igbo land also .
finally i am very proud to be an ika man and an owa person.[/s]

exotik:
leave bini outta your silly arguments cos for all i know, nri was the same ikhime the bini man who you igbos corrupted to eze chime. and it was ikhime that civilized present day igbos not the archaic nri/eri the son of gad that never existed.

[size=15pt]Jonathan is a very weak president – David-West[/size]
•Says he cannot handle Boko Haram problem
By Daniel Abia Snr. Correspondent,  Port Harcourt

For his delay in taking decisive actions on issues that threaten the unity of Nigeria, lives and property of the people, President Goodluck Jonathan has been described as the weakest Nigerian President so far.

Making this bold declaration in an interview session in Port Harcourt, the Rivers State capital, Professor Tam David-West said the President lacked the necessary biceps to tackle the numerous problems confronting the country.

According to the professor of virology of the University of Ibadan, President Jonathan cannot handle the Boko Haram threat in some states of the northern part of the country, adding that every rebel has somebody he respects within the system who should be consulted by government to find a lasting solution to the crisis.

He explained: “Every rebel leader has somebody in the system that he respects. Before now, I had told them that you cannot win the militancy in the Niger Delta by gun. You can only win by negotiation and consultation. Using JTF to bomb everywhere will not proffer solution to the problems. You don’t win a moral battle with gun.

“You can only identify those people in the system that the rebels can listen to, not by fanfare or rendition. You have to penetrate the elders they respect and talk to them. Penetrate them with subtle diplomacy, not begging them. But President Jonathan is “very weak” (shouting on top of his voice).

lagcity:
June 12, a disaster for Ndigbo–Alaefule
By ENYERIBE EJIOGU
Sunday, June 12, 2011

•Alaefule
• Photo: Sun Publishing
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Sixteen years ago the government of former military president, General Ibrahim Babangida annulled the June 12 Election of 1993, which was won by late Bashorun Moshood K. O. Abiola, in the country’s first free and fair polls. That decision set off crisis that forced Igbo people in Lagos to flee en masse to the South East as the Yoruba people embarked reprisal attacks against them in a manner that brought the country close to civil war.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/powergame/2011/june/12/powergame-june-12-2011-003.html

lagcity:
it was not 6 but ask Ezeuche, he knows what i'm talking about. read the previous posts on this thread, u'll find out. at least they return the ondo oba becos they got scared. what abt the ibo oba that was kidnapped and never returned?

lagcity:
^^^^^
http://allafrica.com/stories/200003140141.html

Lagos — As tension continues to mount in Seme Border following a bloody clash over the weekend between Yorubas and Hausas in the area, Igbos whose properties have been ravaged in the clash have migrated to their home towns.

The Ibos who mainly sell beer at the border got their shops burnt down completely by the rampaging Hausas, who set fire to a Yoruba woman's shop which eventually spread to the Ibo area. Narrating his experience to P.M.News at the border, David Nnakwe the Head of Igbo community in the area said his people had always suffered during clashes between Yorubas and Hausas in the area. He pleaded that the government should find a lasting solution to the problem since the Igbos would have no other option than to retaliate if pushed to the wall. "We have been injured enough," he complained.

lagcity:
u guys are very funny. a bunch of mr IBUs. Itshekiris have decimated the Ijaws b4 and they'll do it again. Itshekiris can handle both Ibos and Ijaw together. the ibos will be the first to scamper for safety like they usually do . biko when will u guys stop running. this is really embarassing.   when yoruba fought hausa, ibos ran away. when, ijaws fought itshekiri, ibos took off again. when 6 fulani teenagers went on rampage, ibo ppl took off. i know that u guys are still shell-shocked from the civil war but really it is not looking good for ibo team right now . remember that war is not gra gra that both groups are known for. We yorubas are very confident in our Itshekiri brothers, no shaking.

Obiagu1:
If you don't know about the travelling Nri priests, then let it be.

It's ok, Nri had no influence over Ngwa but don't speak for Mbaise people.

ekt_bear:
Afanna is not even Ijaw, he is from Akwa Ibom, iirc.

seanet02:
Nigeria must not cheat ibos again, this must be cited in the east

alj harem:
lets not turn this to ethnic reason. let be clear headed and objective

the north is too hot for a nuclear power plant

the west is to conjested and more over, they have given a lot of land to the country already

the SS is an oil area and would be silly if it is put there unless they are looking at the avilability of cooling water

just the middle belt and east left

the middle belt also carries our food and dumb if a nuclear power plant is there, also abuja is the capital

leaving the east.

SouthEast:
^^^
Solve flooding in SW (Lagos, Ogun, Oyo)
Solve the fact that Lagos will soon be swallowed by the Atlantic Ocean
Solve desertification in the North
Solve erosion in SE and Edo and Cross Rivers.