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alj harem1:
ChinenyeN, i agree with you that we can keep our dialect; whether ngwa, oku, nnewi, oka etc

but brother you have to see reason here, what i mean is that; there have to be common language that unite us igbos


think of it, in the future when all the igbos have adopted 1 dialect and ngwa is still differnet, do you not think ngwas then will say they are not igbos or do you not think discrimination will start

think if oka, nnewi etc drop there dialect for the greater good in aligbo what make ngwa different

remember unity is first before any dialect we are keeping, the more united we are in terms of language and culture the better it is for us.

i know you love ngwa dialect but at the end of the day,

please ChineneyeN give it a good thought

Good write up. Really makes you look at the long-term effect. Al haram, kedu?

EzeUche_:

It must be frightening for you the possibility that our "LECTS" may go extinct. Your clan is your identity, that is why you have been fighting me for the past year. My identity is my "igboness." Even though I was born of Arochukwu, I see you my Ngwa friend as a brother. I would hope that you would see me as the same as well.

What is more beautiful than having all Igbos speaking a unified language, without the fear of it going extinct? Your "lect" ill live on in a way, through a unified language.

I love ur passion for Igbo unity,but,i think our dialects are one of the most beautiful attribute that we have as a nation.If there is clan conscience is a great way to preserve it. We(Ukwuani) have a strong Ukwuani conscience.We were able to put together an Ukwuani dictionary. The language is preserved. When Biafra is actualized, we will be able to fully practice and strengthen our dialect in our district/province area. Hearing different Igbo dialects is kind of like touring a historic area/country to me, it is that amazing to me.

ChinenyeN:
I think you really misunderstood that statement. When I said I feel more comfortable speaking English, I meant that literally I feel more comfortable speaking English. For as long as I can remember I haven't really been able to grasp speaking central. I can write it okay, but speaking it is something completely different. I've been told that I actually don't sound right, and I stutter quite a bit when I try to speak it. Then there's the aesthetic factor, where forming my mouth in such a way to make those sentences feels very awkward. It has nothing to do with hating the idea of being Igbo. So, please don't misconstrue my statement.

Nice response.

Socio-cultural organization or political?

PhysicsMHD:
Well the Quran apparently says that apostates will be punished by God.


It doesn't take much imagination to twist that into a mandate for executing apostates, but the thing that those who do so forget is that the Quran says the Jews and Christians are fellow people "of the Book" (?) and clearly indicates that they are not "infidels". So I don't see how an apostate could justifiably be punished for converting to Christianity or Judaism.

Gbam! You have said it all. More or less they use Islam to manipulate things into their own favor.

PhysicsMHD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam


It's not from the Quran, but it's de facto Islamic policy apparently.

Thanks. That's the point I was trying to make. If the Quran doesn't permit it then it is not islamic. Bakare had that right as a muslim.

Kobojunkie:
You do have access to the dictionary, right? Now look up the word ATTACK and it's application. When someone says "Obviously its never beneficial to argue with a junkie", you instinctively know that the person is NO LONGER REFERRING TO THE OPINION EXPRESSED but the INDIVIDUAL EXPRESSING THE OPINION, hence the use of the word ATTACK.

I am not an English teacher and I certainly do not have my grammar down right, but I suggest you too go back and take some classes to maybe help IMPROVE on your comprehension abilities.

Now, back to the topic, as I suggested, next time, please learn to ask QUESTIONS to ensure you have your information right before proceeding to counter a claim!! It is usually the best approach. Worry more of getting that down, will you?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jason123:
Dumb poster.

I agree. Thank god I didn't post this shyt news,lol.

Kobojunkie:
^^^ And now you have proven yourself, yet again, a waste of time.

First you ask me a question that has nothing to do with thread. Then you assert I want Bakare dead just because you thought it. Now you feel attacking me validates your existence in some way? Again, I have to ask, are you dense??

Everyone is attacking Kobojunkie now,lol. This is what you were crying about in the Complaints section to the moderators right? ROTFLMAO! Maybe you will learn to stop doing all your nonsense that warrants those "attacks". ROTFLMAO!!!!!

I STILL LOVE YOU THOUGH.

Dumb thread.

Kobojunkie:
It's clear 

Maybe I should make my comment a bit more specific? How you, NEXT TIME, YOU make sure to verify before you rush off making assumptions of people that are not even connected in anyway.

Bakare is not the one asking why someone else was not stoned for making a different choice. Please take time to read the article, and than ask before you leap to conclude.

Obviously its never beneficial to argue with a junkie. We all know nothing ever goes anywhere with you. Look, just stop your nonsense mentality and your obsession with northern muslim rule.

Kobojunkie:
Why ask me the question? Am I the one who made the claim? Did you even read the article to know what my response was in reaction to? How does that question even fit into this discussion? ---- hence the reason I ask again, are you dense?

Kobojunkie:
That man needs to be put to death with immediate effect!

Its clear by this statement, you are say Bakare should be put to death for doing something that he had every right to do. Asuming not Bakare, maybe you should make your comment a bit more specific.

Kobojunkie:
Are you dense?

Meaning?

Kobojunkie:
That man needs to be put to death with immediate effect!

Can you give me a verse out of the quran, where these ingrates say permits the stoning of those who change their religion from Islam?

Justcash:
This is becoming alarming. So in Jos, anyone can be butchered for nothing?

It was indeed another bloody day for residents of Jos, Plateau State, at the eid-el maulud celebration Tuesday as 12 persons, including a riot policeman around whom the killings revolved, lost their lives in cruel and untoward circumstances in the Terminus area of the city.

Panic, tension and stampede, all enveloped the city centre, as cars collided headlong, smashing windshields and rending bumpers asunder in desperate moves by motorists to escape from being caught in the madness that began at the Abuja Market in the area.

It all began when the policeman, who was on duty but went to purchase meat from an Hausa butcher in the market, was allegedly slaughtered by the butcher.

The meat seller reportedly turned his knife and killed the unsuspecting policeman, who was simply identified as Mr. John, by tearing open his abdomen.

As if well planned, another butcher beside them, also an Hausa, went after his own customer, a young lady, standing before him, and also killed her with his knife. And before long, the entire market turned into a pandemonium as the people used knives freely on each other.

And before the arrival of soldiers, five people were already dead, while several others were seriously injured.
This provoked angry Christian youths to pounce on a commercial motorcycle operator, believed to be an Hausa, in the terminus area, who was also killed before he could escape.

While Muslim youths, who were reciting the Quaran at the Central Mosque that had earlier been restrained from their usual yearly procession, got  wind of the crisis, they immediately made to launch further offensive on the Christians, who were equally battle ready.  
But for the prompt arrival of the Commander of the[size=13pt] Military Special Task Force, Brig. Gen. Hassan Umaru, who was also observing prayers at the mosque[/size], more casualties would have been recorded. He quickly deployed troops in the area to contain the youths.

The crisis quickly escalated to Gada-Biu area of the city where four other persons were burnt beyond recognition. Three corpses were also found lying near Bingham University Teaching Hospital.

Confirming the incident, the state Police Commissioner, Alhaji Abdulrahman Akano, said four people had been arrested in connection with the pandemonium. He however denied that any other person was killed apart from the policeman, whom he said is of the Bomb Disposal unit.

Source: http://www.thisdayonline.com/

So the man who is suppose to be unbias and protecting all people of Jos, is mingling with these same killers. Who now can claim that this same Commander isn't giving these people valuable information that is causing the killing of innocent Beroms at night.

~Bluetooth:
But the president was not tribalistic when he called them rascals abi ?

Insulting? Yes. Tribalistic? No. If he called them cowards or snakes, then, although true, it would be considered racist-like.

wales:
Former Lagos State Governor, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu has totally denied reports making the rounds that he and the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN’s) presidential flag bearer, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu were on collision course.
He said the reports were from cunningly creative writers who, not only wanted to hatch a conflict between them, but preferred to use speculative means.

Tinubu, while speaking to aviation correspondents Tuesday in Lagos described the story as “Isi ewu” (goat head pepper soup) reporting with no substance in it.
“It cannot be true. Can you compare the two reporting? I read the papers. I read the one in Tribune and the one in The Sun and they are conflicting; go and digest it. Have you seen a party where there is no discussion, no debate, no rational thinking? Then with the two reporting, they want a conflict but they cannot create a conflict or crisis where one does not exist. It is most unfortunate that today journalism or reporting is taking another tone. It is just the kind of ‘Isi ewu’ reporting.

I’m no longer surprised about all of them; there are just speculations and imaginations of somebody being very, very cunningly creative. You yourself in your own little groups, you have discussions and you discuss characters, you discuss values, you discuss what sort of benefit a situation can bring to you; if there is any active debate, or even silent debate, and consultations, what are we getting out of this. How will the public react to one person or the other; how can you maximize the value or harvest the knowledge of an individual? Does that create any crisis? You discuss it and the reporting is a lie”, the former Lagos Governor explained.
On the recent comments of President Goodluck Jonathan where he called South West political leaders rascals, [size=13pt]Tinubu described the President as a drunk fisherman whose boat is about to capsize.[/size]

“I think the president is wrong because that is an insult to our parents. It is a speech from a drunk sailor fisherman whose boat is about to capsize. That is an insult to our parents, you don’t come to this land, seek our votes and then insult our parents that they raised rascals”, he stated.
When asked whether the ACN had plans to merge with other parties to form a stronger opposition to the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP), the former Lagos Governor said there was no such agenda.

“Who is prescribing that? Everybody is entitled to his or her own thinking. There are so many theories and theoreticians and forecasters and I deal with a political environment where gossip and ordinary speculations work better than deep rooted thinking and the ideological philosophy of a party is not taking into account. You talked about a party that has been in power for twelve years, isn’t it? Who says that ACN cannot do the magic? It is some thinking from several quarters. We believe that if we pull together, it will be better and easier. No one will dispute that, but I will never write off my party and I believe Nigerians are tired of PDP and they will speak through their ballot.”
On when the ACN will present the running of Ribadu, he said: “I am not the candidate. You talk to the candidate.”

I will be contacted and is it not very interesting to you too to keep the general populace in suspense? Is it not part of a good strategy?
However, he did not admit whether the party was rooting for former Finance Minister, Mrs Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as the running mate to Ribadu.
“She is a very qualified individual and she is an asset; she is an asset to the nation, an asset to Africa and international community, and no doubt about that. But you don’t know whether she is even free now. She will be ready to serve her fatherland as a patriotic citizen who is ready to serve her at any capacity and she will be willing; but it doesn’t mean that when you chose a running mate to anybody that he will be more valuable.

We have so much to gain from her, intellectually, in her character and professionally and for our reputation all over the world, so it doesn’t mean that she will serve the country better as a running mate to anybody. If she is to serve again as she once served as a minister, then she should be ready to serve the country. A patriotic citizen must be ready to sacrifice for his or her nation.”
The CAN Chieftain also expressed optimism that his party will beat the PDP in the April polls.
“We are winning. You cannot win it all but we are winning the majority and we are taking over from PDP, Poverty Development Party.”





http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/feb/16/national-16-02-2011-03.htm

Wow! . Yoruba leaders and their constant racist-like comments.smh. Totally uncalled for.

alex101:
Gbam!

This is why I've recommended that Igbo should only marry from any tribe east of the niger to preserve our good looks. We should prevent tainting of our blood.

As a typical 100% Igbo dude (both parents of Igbo extraction), people have always wondered if I'm related to Denzel Washington. I know say

tribalists go attack me for this fact!

My brother we thank God.

Uche2005=Alh haram

alj harem1:
first you do not have yoruba blood in you

second if you are lying here

speak to me in yoruba and what you typed

Must someone that is half one thing half the other, know how to speak both languages? You claim you are half Igbo but you can't speak Igbo(although we know u have no Igbo blood). Since you claim you are a mixed breed, according to your theory, you should know how to speak both Kanuri and yoruba. Also, you dont even like yorubas you were just talking about "We will slaughter them like man to chicken".

@OP, I couldn't have said it any better myself.

Digriz:
Why did d yorubas hate d igbos more than any other tribe even more than hw d hausas did.
Am a half yoruba and half igbo bt speakn d truth,yorubas are d most tribalistic than d igbos who ar more open minded and am a living example.

You speak the true. What the yorubas suffer from(no offense) is insecurity. Afraid to meet new minds and challenges so he would rather stay with who he knows. Igbos on the other hand, are confident, ready for the challenge, and will socialize with anyone because they see no threat.I'm just telling it how I see it. Here in the U.S., you will notice that people here favor Igbos more as friends. Some foolishly say its because we look like African-Americans, but that is not true obviously because of our names. It's our personalities.(Generally speaking though)

trueword:
But can't the party deny Onwuebu as being their flagbearer. I'm hopin Chime will fight this in court. If the party has chosen their flagbearer don't the courts have to respect that decision?

But how did this guy Onwuebu come out anyways. Did Chime not contest in the primaries or what?

There was no primary(if i'm not mistaking).

alj harem1:
yes you are missing a lot because igbos are the weakest people in africa

they never had an empire nor a king, thus no ruler to coordinate them in battle

hausa people, fulani people, kanuri people, even yoruba and edo people all have kings and leaders to coordinate them so it is a bit difficult to tell them NO if they want to secede

igbos are known to be secessionist even to there ethnic group

moreover igbos can leave so long it is just the 5 igbo states and nothing else unlike biafra that had, cross river, akwa ibom, baleysea etc

Its interesting that with all the "Kings", "Leaders", and "empires" the hausa,fulani,kanuri,yoruba, and edo had it took the british a snap of a finger to destroy them but to combined almost 35 years to get Igbo land under its arm,and still then, they never completely got control of the whole of Igbo land. . . . Who are the weak ones now.

We leave how he want and with what we want.Try and stop us.You are free to do so.

ChinenyeN:
. . . and we all speak the same 'Igbo language' how?

Various areas may not speak the same tongue verbatim but they still speak the language of the "Igbo people".

ezeagu:
Can anyone guess this dialect.

Ebe ki joko? Kiwuzi ohun? Yi e rizini igi?

This is Ika, if I'm not mistaking.

This is a welcome development. This is second nature to the people in Imo,as well as the whole of the SE, for it is in their culture. This will be a welcome development to the wider nigerian political atmosphere if the debate actually does take place. This been something talked about from left to right but hasn't actually taken place. I take my had off to the prompt preparation and set dates.

Tinubu is wasting time. It may be purposely. Anybody would agree that Okonjo-Iweala is Ribadu's best bet. I suspect that Tinubu could be working with Buhari trying to impose a running mate which would give Ribadu low votes and not take a chunk out of Buhari votes. Precious time is being wasted, no politician would jeopardize campaigning,especially with only 2 months left till the elections. After all, in Nigeria its all about personal interest and side deals,on top of that, the ACN at least still has a candidate.This stops them from ending up like the AD. I guess we'll know Tinubus intentions by Tuesday, the deadline to finalize running mates.

[size=15pt]April elections: Candidates to commence debate March 30 in Imo[/size]

News Feb 14, 2011

By CHIDI NKWOPARA



OWERRI — The debate being organized by Imo State Council of Nigeria Union of Journalists, NUJ, for candidates of the various registered political parties will commence with the governorship candidates on March 3, 2011, at Imo Concorde Hotel, Owerri.

According to a press release signed by the Chairman of the Organizing Committee, Mr. Innocent Igwe, the gubernatorial debate will be closely followed by the senatorial debate for those running for the three senatorial seats in the state.

He said: “The federal constituency debate for candidates seeking election into the House of Representatives will follow later.”

The NUJ also reminded all the candidates running for the different elective positions that participation in the debate is indispensable as it would be carried live by all the radio and television stations in the state simultaneously.

Imo NUJ also reasoned that the debate would provide the best platform for all the candidates to market themselves to the electorate.

“As the first of its kind in the history of Imo State, Imo NUJ political debate promises to remain a positive reference point where the highest possible standard associated with such a crucial activity in terms of equal treatment, fairness and neutrality are guaranteed,” Igwe stated.

He passionately appealed to corporate bodies, institutions and interested organizations to support the noble effort to ensure credible elections in the state.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/02/april-elections-candidates-to-commence-debate-march-30-in-imo/

[size=15pt]Tinubu, Ribadu clash[/size]
…Over running mate

From AMOS DUNIA, Abuja

Monday, February 14, 2011



Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) has set up a two-man committee made up of its National Secretary, Senator Lawan Shuaibu and the former national secretary, Usman Bugaje to meet its presidential candidate, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu to resolve the crisis over the choice of a presidential running mate.

Leader of the ACN, Senator Bola Tinubu had been engrossed in disagreement with Ribadu over the choice of a running mate to the presidential standard bearer. While the former Lagos State governor was said to be favourably disposed to the choice of former minister of finance, Mrs. Ngozi Okonje-Nweala as running mate to Mallam Ribadu, the former chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission had remained resolute, insisting that he should be given the free hand to choose his running mate.

It was the same scenario that emerged immediately after the emergence of Mallam Nuhu Ribadu as presidential candidate of the ACN during which he insisted on being allowed to choose those he would work with as members of his campaign team. He got his way.

However, at a meeting which took place last Thursday, at the national headquarters of ACN situated at Wuse II, Abuja and chaired by the party’s National Chairman, Chief Bisi Akande, it was agreed that the brewing crisis between Tinubu and Ribadu would not augur well for the party and in particular Mallam Ribadu.

Akande stressed at the meeting that the party and in particular Tinubu must put every machinery in place and work for the success of Ribadu, adding that going against every suggestion and input of the party by the presidential candidate could spell doom for its chances at the April polls. According to Akande; “the party did everything possible to ensure his (Ribadu’s) emergence as its presidential candidate.”
The meeting, which was attended by Chido Onuma, Lukman Salihu, and Uche Onyeagocha observed that there was an urgent need to amicably resolve the crisis between the two leaders of the party to kick-start the campaigns.

A copy of the minutes of the meeting in the possession of Daily Sun revealed that Mr. Onuma, who represented Mallam Ribadu, noted that there was no remarkable difference between Ribadu and Tinubu, saying that the duo only spoke their minds. Onuma further said the arguments made by both Tinubu and Ribadu at the earlier meeting were valid, adding that the perceived misunderstanding was healthy since both leaders merely spoke their minds and not that they quarrelled as it was being insinuated.

“Some of our leaders and members contend that the party needs a political figure from the South-east political zone as presidential running mate while others think other wise. I think it is healthy,” Onuma said.
In his contribution, Dr. Usman Bugaje said he did not believe in the array of presidential running mates lined-up except for two he considered as credible deserving the approval of the party.

Bugaje further said such deliberations were better handled at a smaller meeting where the issues involved would be dissected and expounded for better understanding and appreciation of the issues. Accordingly, he suggested that a two-man committee made up of the National Secretary, Senator Shuaibu and himself should be given the opportunity to meet with the party’s presidential standard bearer and to report back to the national chairman on decisions that would be reached at the meeting.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/feb/14/national-14-02-2011-001.htm

PhysicsMHD:
That's what I thought. But I'm always hearing this Ghana claim, especially (but not only) from Ghanaians. I wonder if I shouldn't post this same topic on ghanaweb.com, but with a more provocative title.

They've been in so much much internal war that I guess it went unnoticed to the world some how. Hey, whatever you post there, please give us the link to read and enjoy professa PhysicsMHD.

Yes. It Sudan got its independence in 1956 from both the british and egypt. Ghana got theirs 1957.