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CultureRe: Photo Of Ooni Of Ife's New Wife As Claimed By Women Of Rubies (But It Is Fake) by clefstone(m): 3:51pm On Aug 29, 2017
She looks so happy to assume the role of the embattled Wuraola. Women no get shame sometimes, she couldn't even wait for Wuraola's perfume to fade from d Ooni's bedroom
PoliticsRe: Biafra: Anyone Who Tries To Arrest Me Will Die - Nnamdi Kanu by clefstone(m): 5:56pm On Aug 27, 2017
this is going to get messy.
PoliticsRe: Osinbajo Panel Report: Witnesses Open Can Of Worms by clefstone(m): 11:50am On Aug 26, 2017
something tells me that Babachir Lawal will walk free
PoliticsRe: Obasanjo Rejects Calls For Restructuring Of Nigeria (Video) by clefstone(m): 11:44am On Aug 26, 2017
this man killed Nigeria's democracy twice
CelebritiesRe: Between Frank Edoho And Twitter User Who Called Him A Wife Beater by clefstone(m): 11:36am On Aug 26, 2017
The thing pain Frank. The shader got no chill a'all
NYSCRe: Kano Or Edo State, Which Is More Preferable? by clefstone(m): 10:47am On Aug 25, 2017
omosefeeguaibor:
I'm going with batch B, so I'm hoping it will be Edo.
you are an Edo girl that schooled in Edo state. Don't u think it wud be wise to experience life in other climes?
CelebritiesRe: Beverly Naya Was Bullied For Having Bad Eczema, Crooked Teeth, Lightbulb Head by clefstone(m): 9:48am On Aug 25, 2017
who else opened d thread to see the eczema?
CareerRe: Massachusetts Mother Quits Job After Claiming $758-million Powerball Jackpot by clefstone(m):
Why would she not resign when she can buy the company from the owner and dash the owner again
PoliticsRe: No Amount Of Hatred Will Obliterate Buhari’s Achievements – Lai Mohammed by clefstone(m): 7:25pm On Aug 24, 2017
Achievements? What achievements? A disunited country, a crumbling economy, an insecure nation, zero infrastructural development. All positive indices have headed south since Buhari entered aso rock
CelebritiesRe: Tboss Looks Stunning In Egyptian Costume (pictures) by clefstone(m): 4:32pm On Aug 24, 2017
this geh. hmmmm
PoliticsRe: N50 Million Paid For Funeral Rite Of Killed Crocodile By Agip In Delta State by clefstone(m): 12:27pm On Aug 24, 2017
It should be an Iguana, not a Crocodile. The Iguana is a sacred creature to d people of that area. Nobody is allowed to kill them. I am from that area
PoliticsRe: Work Begins At The Presidential Villa In Abuja After Rats Infestation. Photos by clefstone(m): 12:21pm On Aug 24, 2017
did the rats destroy those interlocking bricks? Those rats must have titanium teeth
PoliticsRe: No Law Says FEC Meeting Must Be Held Every Week – Femi Adesina by clefstone(m): 9:18pm On Aug 23, 2017
Buhari and APC have lost it completely
Christianity EtcRe: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by clefstone(m): 10:44pm On Aug 22, 2017
adelee777:
How would you interpret Jesus' statement in John 20:17?
it is important to understand the reason why Jesus came into the world before you can get a clearer understanding of that passage. Jesus came to redeem the world. In other to do this God desired that he dies AS MAN for the sins of the world, he is therefore the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

Now, Jesus' relationship with the Father when he was on earth had to be that of Man and God, he Man and the Father God, anything else defeats the purpose of his coming. He therefore related with God the way man relates with God, hence the reference to 'my father' and 'my God' in that verse.

Now, how do we know that Jesus is God?

1. The nature of his birth. He was born of a virgin
2. He existed before he was born(Luke 10:18). As what?
3. Jesus said no man born of a woman is greater than John de Baptist, yet John told his disciples that he was unfit to undo his sandals
4. It is explicitly written that Christ is God in the book of Philippians.
5. The main charge for which Christ was killed was that he called himself son of God. The Jews actually saw it as equating himself with God, and he didn't deny it
PoliticsRe: Rats ”chase” Nigerian President From Office- BBC Major News Story by clefstone(m): 9:20pm On Aug 22, 2017
illiterates are running this country, I swear
Christianity EtcRe: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by clefstone(m): 9:41am On Aug 22, 2017
parisbookaddict:
Jesus is the Son of God and part of God. Jesus saying he is God ignores the triune nature of God. there is God the father and he, Jesus God the son. Every bible reading christian knows this but muslims cant seem to grasp this.
Thomas the Apostle called Jesus God as recorded in John 20:28. 'My Lord and My God' he said. You skipped that ma'am
PoliticsRe: Nigerians Hold Vigil In Front Of Abuja House, London, Chant "Buhari Go Home" by clefstone(m): 7:38am On Aug 19, 2017
Has anybody else realized how difficult it is to have a 3year plan in Nigeria now. Things are so uncertain now that it's difficult to tell what will happen in the next 24hrs. That to me is my major concern about the present leadership, no focus. We don't know where they r carrying is to. In d immediate past, our only concern was fuel price, but today it's a myriad of issues with no practical working solution. God help us
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Church Excommunicates Rev. Patrick Edet Who Quit Priesthood by clefstone(m): 9:03pm On Aug 18, 2017
safarigirl:
my dear, is there any form of Christianity that does not lead to hell?

You all fight each other and drag members and curse at one another, you are a house divided and you think anything you are practicing will lead you to heaven? With this hate and division?

All of you are going to hell together, both Catholic and Protestants, safe journey
you want to be a maverick but u r just one attention seeking confused young woman. Do u really beliv u r wise? You r just one hell of an ITK
PoliticsRe: DSS' Attempt To Arrest Reno Omokri At Nnamdi Azikiwe Airport Fails by clefstone(m): 7:32am On Aug 18, 2017
arrest him for what? for speaking the truth and defending his former boss' name? Silly APC govt
PoliticsRe: Buhari’s Health Has Improved Tremendously, Says Dogara by clefstone(m): 7:29am On Aug 18, 2017
He looks much better in recent pictures but if he comes back and start engaging in the rigors of governance he will return to square one
InvestmentRe: MMM PARTICIPANTS: Una Mumu Don Do Abeg! by clefstone(m): 6:45pm On Aug 17, 2017
cornel9297:
Mmm has technically crashed and all these their new policies are just delay strategy. so sad that mmm participants still believe that mavrodi of Russia is the brain behind mmm nigeria not knowing that our yahoo yahoo brothers are using mavrodi ideology to defraud their fellow citizens
I never for once believed Mr Mavrodi is d brain behind MMM Nigeria. If he were, he would have made at least one video to address participants. And yes, MMM has crashed again, they r technically trying to restart another batch, 2017b as OP called it
FamilyRe: Boy Who Ran Away From Home In Abakiliki To Aba For Survival Suffering (Photos) by clefstone(m): 11:16am On Aug 17, 2017
The prodigal son
CelebritiesRe: 3 Nigerian Musicians Who Love To Flaunt Their Smoking Lifestyle by clefstone(m): 2:50pm On Aug 16, 2017
na their lungs so no p
InvestmentRe: My MMM Story by clefstone(op): 3:37pm On Aug 12, 2017
ucheuzor1:
Please those calling MMM a scam should leave it other than castigate it na...
Every business is a scam after all. The essence is to make profit. And mind you, no business is bound to last forever. Participate as much as u can.

The day it goes down, you take it, that's life. Am not a guider, neither do I have a referral under me.

I still stand to say that MMM is the best thing that has happened to the common man in this country.
show me one common man that MMM made in Nigeria and I will show u one thousand that it wrecked
InvestmentRe: My MMM Story by clefstone(op): 1:04pm On Aug 12, 2017
ExplorerReturns:
I love were you said that you read on the site that their is "NO GUARANTY" and only spare cash should be used. if anyone thinks there is nothing wrong with betting but sees mmm as morally wrong, my dear , that person is a hypocrite! betting gives you no warning but mmm does! the same money used to pay winners in bet was from the loosers but mmm made you know that their is no guaranty in the system but despite that, they made sure people get paid!!!

As for guiders telling lies na you sabi that one because in my telegram group I am always honest with them and that is why they appreciate me.

mmm is not a scam but a community of willing people ready to help each other financially, with no guarantees! that is the IDEOLOGY of mmm! so for anyone that claims mmm is a scam is only a fooolish hypocrite who is jealous of his mmm neighbour!


join my mmm telegram group through the link in my signature to be updated on the honest happenings in mmm
my guy, to say that people go into MMM to help people is a big fat lie from the pit of hell. Anybody doing MMM is doing it for one reason, and that is to make as much money from it as possible. How can u call what u r doing help when u eventually make profit from it. I don't have a problem with u doing MMM, what I hv a problem with is u lying to ignorant people in a bid to keep MMM up
InvestmentRe: My MMM Story by clefstone(op): 12:54pm On Aug 12, 2017
FX:
MMM is paying. Don't dull at. Nobody will put food on your table when you become hungry and nobody can help you with your rent when it expires. You are strictly on your own in this world. Make your own decisions and be accountable for the results when it comes. Everything in life is risk even the life you are living. Take a risk today and change your life if it pays. If it doesn't, then learn the lesson. MMM just matched my GH.
I don't have issues with u doing MMM, it's your life. But coming here to lure people into something like MMM without letting them know the attendant risk that it will surely crash one day is immoral. It's even worse now when the scheme is standing on one toe to lure people in, it's wicked, very wicked
InvestmentRe: My MMM Story by clefstone(op): 12:50pm On Aug 12, 2017
Primenet:
Pls go & ph you will be matched.

Ph any amount. I got that from a group and i ph this afternoon just discovered now that I HAVE BEEN MATCHED AFTER ONE WEEK OF GH.
my bro, mmm as it is now has crashed. It actually crashed almost a month ago. What is being done now is an attempt to steady a sinking ship but the inevitable will happen. Stop lying to people. If ur money is stuck in there, just pray u get it back somehow but don't decieve people just because u want to get ur moni back. It's immoral
InvestmentMy MMM Story by clefstone(op): 3:47pm On Aug 11, 2017
MMM is about the most popular acronym in Nigeria today. I first got to know about MMM from a client around middle of 2016. He was a guider in the scheme and one of the early participants. The young man was receiving so many calls, talking about money and wearing a customized MMM T-shirt so I was moved to ask him what this thing was all about. He tried to explain to me how the scheme worked but I couldn't really understand mostly because I was skeptical.

Fast forward 2 months later, a female friend of mine came to my house and asked me what I thought about MMM. She explained to me how the scheme worked and for the first time I understood how MMM worked. I told her that the scheme was doomed to fail and that the last people who paid money into it will be the ones to pay for all the gains those who r lucky will get. I also told her that it was morally wrong to participate in something that you know will eventually hurt people. She would later confess that she was already an active member of MMM.

Then in August 2016, I was persuaded by another friend to join MMM. I opened the site and saw where it was stated that there was no guarantee that you'd get your money back. This for me was d catch. It meant that participants knew that they could lose their money and they signed up for it notwithstanding. This removed the moral obligation as it was in essence a game of chance. I quickly joined and by October ending of 2016 I made about 300k from the scheme. I then decided to remove my capital and re-invest d 300k interest I had made. I would eventually lose about 200k of my interest, that is, in all I made a net profit of 150k from MMM in 2016

My philosophy of doing MMM was;

1. Any money I put in MMM I counted it as lost so that if the scheme crashes while my money is stuck in it I won't be frustrated

2. I didn't advice anybody to join because I didn't want to coerce someone into something that may end in disappointment, therefore I didn't have any referral

3. I always saw all gains in MMM as virtual since I knew I would re-invest it into d scheme.


THEN MMM CRASHED in December 2016


I did do MMM in 2017, made about 100k from it and ran away in early July when I sensed the system was getting choked again.


MMM Nigeria is a grand scam that Sergie Mavrodi knows nothing about. I call it a scam because the guiders lie like the devil. Last year they claimed that the scheme makes money through traffic on the site. When the scheme crashed and people were asking them to re finance the scheme, the story changed and we started hearing them say MMM has no central account and it would depend on participants to reactivate the scheme. This year there is no talk of traffic. This is just one of many lies they keep telling to decieve people. These guiders are even here on nairaland peddling lies and attacking those that speak against MMM.
CelebritiesRe: Angela Uyi: Charly Boy's Nudes Sent To Me, I'm Ashamed Of OurMumuDondo Pioneer by clefstone(m): 4:23pm On Aug 09, 2017
APC blackmail
PoliticsRe: Buhari’s Return Date Shrouded In Secrecy As Wife Returns To Uk by clefstone(m): 8:33am On Aug 08, 2017
I see the workings of karma in most of the recent happenings in Nigerian politics. Buhari is receiving back what he gave.


He called for Yar'adua's resignation on grounds of ill health, today they are calling for his resignation on the same ground

He insited the North against GEJ, albeit unjustly, today Nnamdi Kanu has insited the SE against him

He called the last administration incompetent, today they are calling his the worst in Nigeria's history.

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PoliticsRe: Buhari’s Return Date Shrouded In Secrecy As Wife Returns To Uk by clefstone(m):
I see the workings of karma in most of the recent happenings in Nigerian politics. Buhari is receiving back what he gave.


He called for Yar'adua's resignation on grounds of ill health, today they are calling for his resignation on the same ground

He insited the North against GEJ, albeit unjustly, today Nnamdi Kanu has insited the SE against him

He called the last administration incompetent, today they are calling his the worst in Nigeria's history.

YOU CAN ADD YOURS

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