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Ennyjay69:
Currently watching brugge vs ath

Why is onyedika not getting minutes for SE?

Because the Nigerian coaches don't value midfielders and call up small number of midfielders.

Iwobi, Nwakali, onyeka, Ndidi , onyedika, alhassan-yusuf, Samson tijani ( currently injured ), Bonke, dele bashiru, nwobodo should be getting minutes for the S.E...

HIScraziness:
My honest advice is to use somebody else’s card. None of these platforms will allow you get a card today unless u do KYC and 7 hours is not enough time to get verified.

ollybode don't use someone else's card...

If the name you registered on the site is not the same name on the card your site account may be flagged for fraudulent activity and blocked until you do a KYC ( Know Your Customer ) and verify your account..

Its better for the person to send the money to your card then pay with that card...

TheSuperNerd:
And that @bolded... partly explains why he should NOT have been invited in the first place. This is part of the tactical viewpoint I wanted Utonwanne to understand.

One, he is a Benchwarmer.

Two, he doesn't have the positional discipline for the role.

On a flip side, Iwobi wasn't even the closest to the ball. It was Moses Simon.
So no excuses made for Nigeria's best player yesterday.


Finally, Onyeka didn't make the right steps into that zone. If he did, we won't be analysing his second mistake which isn't obvious to the peripheral eyes.

How do you call yourself a defensive minded player with instructions to help protect the defence in defensive phases and you are defending space behind that do not lead to the goalmouth from where Atal's shot was taken?

SMH. Enough of this. You are just here defending a underpar showing from a player with very limited abilities but high energy for defensive actions. And even defensively, he still flunked.

Iwobi and the other players outside the box should have closed down the player.. he is on the bench because the team he plays for favors Danish players not because he is not good and he started been benched because he came for AFCON.

Before AFCON he was in the starting 11.

TheSuperNerd:
Mister. I have analysed Onyeka as a Pressing CM on this thread. I know exactly the kind of midfielder he is.

So stop making stale excuses for him.

Now, in the context of yesterday's game, he was the CDM. He was the one primarily tasked with defensive duties. He was the one meant to protect the defence. Did he do a good job of that? Not really.

He did have his defensive moments and won couple of duels, marking and tracking opponents but times and times again, he also left gaps in the middle, showing poor positioning and also didnt cover himself in glory as regards his passing range.

And again, shots like that sometimes get past the first Man trying to block and ends up at the block of the 2nd or 3rd man in the path of the ball.

Had Onyeka been present in his defensive Zone, we would/might not be talking Iwobi close to the ball. Iwobi did what he could.

All he had to do was take up his position centrally in his DM zone and act as a barrier in anticipation of a strike. But no... baba was ball watching.

Onyeka had a generally underpar yesterday. Don't sugar-coat it further abeg.

You're the one making excuses for Iwobi..

A player that is not a DM cannot play the DM position the same way a DM will play it.

When a team is in possession they are in an offensive state but when a team is not in possession they are in a defensive state so all 10 players are meant to protect the defense.

TheSuperNerd:
And he did what he could.

Had Onyeka taken a few more steps, instead of Ball watching and moved into his Actual Primary defensive zone as the CDM, he might have gotten the block that no one else could have achieved.

3 touches leading to the goal was enough time to see Onyeka take up position in his primary zone yesterday.

His tactical sense of positioning and anticipation is underpar. That is the whole point.

Iwobi was ball watching. Iwobi didn't do anything. What you fail to realize is that Onyeka is a CM not a DM.

S.E played without a DM yesterday and a DM would have also been in the box so it's players outside the box like Iwobi that could have prevented the second goal.

TheSuperNerd:
Damn it! How many more of this do I have to put up with this lunch break? Haba!!

And Onyeka wasn't expected to be near the guy taking the shot. Don't misquote me. I clearly explained the scenario.

And what was he defending with the ball already cleared??

All I said is he should have moved more centrally and upwards into his CDM zone at the top of the box. He had the time to do that but didn't even with the ball already cleared and headed outwards of the box towards another Algerian player who then rolled it into Atal's path who took 2 touches for that strike.

That is about 3 touches from Uzoho to Atal before he even struck.


He caused a penalty. Is limited in possession. Shows positional indiscipline for the CDM role leaving gaps in his primary defending zones. And only made a few meters of ball carries which you exaggerate as moving the ball from defence to offense.

Onyeka a gem? With all these limitations and errors yesterday? Really?

Iwobi was the one who should have prevented the second goal because iwobi was the closest to the ball...

charlesemeka85:
the best pivot will be ndidi and iwobi then aribo as the AM

If you play Aribo as AM then your formation will be 2-1-7 when Nigeria is in possession because the FullBacks will join the wingers, Iwobi and Aribo will join the attack which will make the midfield almost empty.

Aribo doesn't drop deep or drop to midfield so he should rarely be played as a midfielder.

In the WC qualifier it was Aribo, ihenacho and bonke... Bonke was the only one in midfield.

If we use your formation against Brazil they will beat the Super Eagles 13 - 0.

TheSuperNerd:
Onyeka cost us a penalty yesterday. Mahrez scored from it.

Onyeka wasn't occupying his DM Zone. Atal scored from that zone.

Defensively he had his moments and did okay. But I am meant to believe he is a gem?? Based on what Holistic Performance exactly?

In key moments of the game, He cost us. Let that sink in.

Onyeka should have only closed down the player instead of tackling the player in the box.

2nd goal wasn't Onyeka's fault. It was from a corner kick uzoho punched the ball and the players outside the box are the ones suppose to win such balls and prevent outside shot. Onyeka was defending in the box so how do you expect him to stop the shot when he was no where near the ball

Onyeka is a gem.. he is faster and more mobile than Ndidi and can run with the ball at his feet and was taking the ball from defense to midfield to offense which is what Nwakali was doing at the AFCON..

A starting midfield of Iwobi, Onyeka, onyedika and Ndidi is the solution to the midfield. Then their substitutes are bonke, Nwakali, alhassan-yusuf , nwobodo.

Utonwanne:
He said something like " imaging Alhasan or Nwakali playing with Iwobi (instead on Onyeka)"

And I replied that they are not an upgrade


So tell me sir, how is that putting words in his mouth?

He could also mean a midfield trio of iwobi alhassan-yusuf/nwakali and onyeka.

You didn't ask you just assumed he was talking about midfield duo of nwakali and onyeka.

komekn:
Height is not speed, strength and or physical resilience with stamina and endurance.

Ngole Kante is probably 5"5 maybe less but he is one of the best midfielder in the world.

In all honesty Nwakali would absolutely struggle in League two

Nwakali would not struggle in League 2... A Swiss Club was interested in signing but the coach that wanted him moved to another club so negotiations broke down..

Utonwanne:
Alhassan is not an upgrade.

He's just there!

elyte89 did not say Alhassan is an upgrade... stop putting words in his mouth...

he said "Iwobi can’t do it alone"... which means he needs other midfielders on the pitch playing alongside him...

elyte89 did not mean replacing Iwobi and the coaches themselves need to ensure none of the players get injured by subbing them off and using a lean midfield does not help If the midfielders on the pitch get injured or sent off... Ihenacho should not be used as midfielder..

Super Eagles already have at least 10 midfielders. so only the coaches know why they don't call up at least 6 or 7 of them:

Iwobi
Nwakwali
Alhassan Yusuf
Obinna Nwobodo
Ramon Azeez
Onyeka
Ndidi
Tijani
Bonke
Onyedika
Dele bashiru.

charlesemeka85:
nwaka wetin? If he was in this game the Algerians would hv bullied him like a toddler playing against men

Nwakali is 5'11 and aggressive, there is no way he would be bullied..

Truidstar:
Make una leave Nwakali to concentrate on his club football. He should forget about National team football for now. I will repeat it again. During international break the league he plays in has matches. You don’t expect the team paying his wages to lose him for international games. Dem go say na bad bele we get… make una free am to concentrate on his club career.

he should at worst be on the bench for International games he is available for...

If Nwakali had played against Ghana, the forwards would have been getting through balls from him and the forward players with pace will have more chances to score.. he would also attempt long range shots...

the national team has 5 players who give through passes and only 2 of those 5 are usually called up and play games.. the 5 players Ihenacho, Iwobi, Nwakali, Olayinka, Amoo... S.E needs players that play as a team not players that see themselves as the hero of the team...

Mujtahida:
Iwobi will. He's currently the most intelligent footballer in our team

Iwobi missed one on one against West Ham due to him holding onto the ball so you're not correct....

Iwobi won't shoot first time..

mostob:
I was actually countering the opinion. I was not the one who opined the idea. Check who I quoted again please

Okay

mostob:
I'm not sure you understand. If not, why would you say I'm used to a lean midfield? Isn't Nwakali and Iwobi a lean Midfield?

BTW, playing Iwobi, nwakali, Ndidi and Onyedika as a Midfield 4? Well, it's not impossible.

You didn't mention any DM so I assumed your forward players will be Simon osimhen moffi chukwueze and your midfield will be nwakali and iwobi with no DM then aina omeruo ajayi bassey in defense. That's what I assumed.

Due to the people and coaches Currently managing Nigerian football it's impossible to have starting midfield four.

mostob:
I don't think you understand my post. Oga Fan want us to have a Midfield of Nwakali and Iwobi in a 442 against Algeria!

We're talking of a lineup here not the general squad.

I understand your post and I'm also talking of a lineup.

typicalgamer:
What’s the difference between their attack now and the set we faces 3 years ago.

3 years ago vini jr was a scam
3 years ago ndidi was god of DM
No raphinha
3 years ago richalison was feather weight
3 years ago Neymar was the focal point of the attack

Which Nigeria player except iwobi, has made significant improvements in the last 3 years to stand toe to toe against this Brazilian. Team

Remember they’re Fxcking ghana without lube, same Ghana we couldn’t breakdown their midfield.

We drew with Algeria team B
All of a sudden Brazil is beneath us

Oga wake up to reality that Nigeria will never pass round of 16 in the next 30 years in a world up.

Brazil's goals came from the wing and set pieces. Brazil is not playing through the midfield.

Once Brazil plays the ball to the midfield the midfield plays it to any of the wings then the wings either plays a cross or cuts inside and passes into box or midfield which this time would be at the semi circle just outside the box.

mostob:
You can't have a Midfield duo of Iwobi and Nwakali especially against a top team like Algeria. Both of them are not so good defensively which means our midfield will be an expressway. Infact, Iwobi and Etebo played well because Sao Tome was a lesser team.

Your problem is you're used to the lean midfield Nigerian coaches use.

Nigeria should have a starting midfield four of iwobi nwakali Ndidi onyedika while bonke onyeka alhassan-yusuf etebo should be on the bench..

For Nigeria to be successful at least 7 midfielders should always be called up.

joelsteron:
Nigeria do not have mad squad anything. Just few average ball playing players. The rest are overrated that are just playing for the money.

Nigeria has a mad squad which like Ghana does not have coaches that prioritize chance creations.

typicalgamer:
Black stars look intimidated

Even super eagles will give Brazil too much respect

They’re playing against their idols duh

All of a sudden all Ghana players forgot how to play ball for friendly

And World Cup pressure never start o

zuchyblink:
Black stars are giving Brazil too much respect.

Ghana aren't giving Brazil respect. Brazil is creating and taking their chances while Ghana isn't creating and taking their chances..

Football is about creating chances to score, the Ghanaian players are not creating scoring chances.

Danielnino00:
The English might have invented football,but the Brazilians really perfected it... The squad depth in that team is mad!

You're right. But Nigeria also has mad squad depth just that our local coaches and technical coaches don't have a playing pattern and don't prioritize team work and also don't prioritize crossing and set plays or set pieces.

Brazil's teamwork, set pieces and wing plays and quick football is what making them beat Ghana.

2 of Brazil's goals are from set pieces. The second goal was Richalison's first time shot, most Nigerian players won't shoot that one first time.

I hope all the Nigerian coaches are watching how Brazil is using their wings despite having good dribblers none of their players is waiting for opposition defenders to catch up to them like the way Moses Simon plays..

fxexperts:
Mofo so Ojukwu was a British man. I am learning new things like this.

the bri:tish leave the people more devastated than they earlier met them. If not for the hardwork and peaceful nature of our ancestors in southern Nigeria, southern Nigerians will be in poverty because the bri:tish created Nigeria in a way where Northern and Southern Nigeria will engage in endless wars...

I intentionally did not mention the fu:lanis...

the N:igerian police force before it was created , was a group of rag-tag northern Nigerians ( history portrays them as H:ausas but in my opinion they were mostly f:ulanis ) formed by the bri:tish to carry out guerilla attacks on tribes that were fighting against the b:ritish by burning down villages, killing, raping e.t.c..

In summary,
the f:ulanis were trained by the br:itish to attack tribes in southern Nigeria who fighting against the british....

In full text,
southern Nigerians were always prepared to attack the Bri:tish if the Brit:ish attacked them. And southern Nigerians of that era empowered each other. When the Brit:ish left Nigeria there was no University in Nigeria.

before the br:itish left Nigeria, the Br:itish did not build one university, our number of primary and secondary schools were very low, br:itish did not build smooth roads all over Nigeria , no housing estates, no plans for clean water for communities, majority of the private companies where owned by the br:itish and they only gave Nigerians clerical work which is what the education system they gave us is meant to produce office assistants.

All the developments you see in Nigeria today from Abuja to lagos to calabar to Akwa-ibom to oyo to Enugu e.t.c are all built by Nigerians, our parents, our grand parents e.t.c the br:itish left Nigeria to rot. Everything you had and have the privilege of enjoying in Nigeria was and is through the hardwork of parents, grand parents, and other Nigerians.

christistruth01:
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The British were the best Government Nigeria had only Gowon did as well as the British

Anyone who thinks the British were bad should just take a good look at their own Nigerian leaders from Village to National level

If anyone wants to insult the British it shouldn't be somebody whose forefathers the British had to forcefully Stop from Going to the Market Naked and also had to stop from eating human flesh as a staple diet

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british was the worst government ever... there were riots and killings of Igbos during their time...

British sponsored the Civil war in Nigeria, they burnt villages and cities in the Bini, Oyo to the ground and killed thousands of children, men and women...

Awolowo was the best government the SW had... that time Nigeria was governed by regionalism..

Reference:
Abeg sit down and read your history before speaking.
America was a nation of British want aways, persecuted folks who would not bow to the crown on account of religion. That is its origins.
Australia on the other hand was dumping ground for British castaways, those who will not conform to society where sent there to eternal exile.
See what both nations have become today, friends and allies with their former tormentors.
It is not only blacks that have suffered in this world. All humanity has been inhuman to man.

Most blacks think history started in 1887 and that it is only Africa that was plundered and her people enslaved.

What you're saying is not different from what I'm saying.

U.S.A and Australia and New zealand are ethnically British.

Africa was plundered and still continued to be plundered after independence by the same colonialists.

Why didn't the British or France advise Azikwe and Ojukwu to create an Eastern Nigeria Petroleum company or Igbo petroleum company instead of advising and encouraging war.... Because they ( British and France ) wanted their own oil companies to get the oil blocks in Nigeria and despite Azikwe and Ojukwu been educated they weren't intelligent enough to know this..

The other countries you see are doing well because the U.S.A and Britain transferred their manufacturing to those countries which allowed those countries to acquire knowledge to build their own version of those things.

While the major thing they give to African countries is aid not knowledge transfer.

Reference:
America fought a brutal war with Britain between 1775 and 1783 that secured her independence and ended the First British Empire.
Since then America has developed itself to the point that today their President is given special privileges.

Much of Africa meanwhile negotiated its independence in and around the 1960's and ended the second British Empire in the process but has seen a steady decline ever since till the point they have assumed the position of third world nations whose leaders ride the bus.

Instead of introspection, her citizens are still punching at shadows.
In a world where everyone was practically conquered by the British at one time or the other from Asia to the Americas, from the Arctic to the Antarctic, in a world that is all but english speaking, with english customs and traditions dominating, it is only Africa that still cannot surmount this fact of history. Every other continent has moved on and are all bigger and better than the British today except Africa.

The endless whining and groaning and sighing is the clear sign where the problem is.... in the African head, the African mentality that has lent itself to excuses for failure and the inability to take responsibility for becoming great in itself.

I have said it time and again.
Britain did not become Great by excuses. They were overrun by the famous Roman General and Emperor Julius Caesar. Before then the Kelts, Vikings, even the French all at one time in antiquity conquered Britain and enslaved its people. They too fought to become what they are today. I do not see any Briton today hate on these people, the sons and daughters of their former foes for things done in generations past.

WHEN WILL AFRICA LET GO AND BEGIN TO RE CREATE ITSELF TO BECOME GREAT.
Every day of excuses will never move us forward as a national continent of blacks. FACT.

America didn't fight with Britain...

It was Britain vs Britain.. just that one decided to call itself America while the other maintained their identity...

Britain and U.S.A are one..

stamapro:
When you are able to put and build your house, and prove to the whites that you don't need them, but they need you, that is when they will look for you to shake hands with, other than that they shake hands with only their mates. A bitter pill.

learn from history...

when black americans were doing well for themselves , white Americans killed them and their businesses..

When Africa was doing well in the Egyptian Pharoah times, they attacked and destroyed Egypt.. then they demonized Egypt and its pharoahs and its totem ( the snake ) in their religious books..

that's why today, snakes are seen as devilish and evil animals and you also pray against Pharoahs...

mhizandrea1:
We all know most of these whites you see are racists, especially in the UK.
I was 'pained' when I watched the video
Imagine the way your fellow man who is not even God snubbed you, chaiii
The black man himself ehhhn you carry your two legs go meet person wey snub you, even their daughter in law received same all because she is coloured.
Nobody is superior to another, learn to treat people equally.
It's just doing me like I should knock his head mtcheeeew
We "blacks" should learn to stop seeing these "whites" as superior over everything. Nonsense..........
Look at the video closely.....it's as if he pushed the black man's hand when the man attempted to shake him again

people can never treat each other equally..

How you would treat your brother or sister will be different from how you treat your friends and strangers..

izuu20:
Before you judge...let's have the full video where the started shaking hands and where he stops... Don't come and show us the part you want us to see...

his bodyguard also prevented the black man from extending his hand..

the black man had to stretch his hand after charles pretended to be distracted.. charles still touched the black guy's hand after the black man stretched..

midehi2:
I am not checking any link, this video is enough for me

I didn't want to download the image.. it is a link to another NL user KingAzubuike post on the 1st page who first posted the image...

tofolo:
He was distracted that was why.

midehi2:
What have you build in your country


That video shows he was carried away at the moment, he still tapped the black guy with his left hand

he wasn't distracted.. he pretended to be distracted just to ignore the guy.. even his bodyguard prevented the black man from extending his hand..

check the post in the linkbelow

https://www.nairaland.com/7341685/did-king-charles-ignore-handshake#116824864