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TheSuperNerd:
Tell me one time even a fit Morata registered 20 league goals for any side. Just tell me one.

I doubt you would find one yet Morata has featured for most marquee clubs (Real Madrid, Chelsea, Atletico Madrid and Juventus).


Now... You just read facts and called it story, story, story.

But since you believe and know what a fit Osimhen can do... then that settles this discussion.

The wrong move would have been Osimhen moving to Man Utd this summer like some Shameless Man U fans in here wanted but thanks goodness that didn't happen.

Next Summer, Osimhen will likely get his big move after having another strong season in the Serie A under his belt. Maybe Man U will be a better place by then... time will tell. Other options also exist. Next Summer will tell it all.

So chill out with your "wrong move-destroy career" talks. He's been at Napoli for 3 seasons now including this current one. You make it sound like he's been on the move every other season.

must Osimhen move

Napoli is on an upward trajectory, they are thrashing the "marquee" clubs and will compete in UEFA competitions every season.

Osimhen needs to learn to take care of himself more and stop getting injured, If he needs to change his diet then he should change it and if he needs to rest more to prevent muscle tears then he should..

same thing goes for all Nigerian players, they should reduce whatever causing them to weaken their muscles and the Nigerian coaches should also help them by not calling them up for International matches...

Amoo, Sadiq, Tijani all have ACL injuries and Osimhen almost got an ACL injury but he was wise enough to stop running around and just lay on the pitch...

Okealaaye:
Fortune is smiling on the Igbo Clan these days and they seemed blessed on all fronts! Who wouldn't be happy having Davido as in-law! He's definitely going to bring light to their benighted enclave. Better days are here for the Igbo, because an opportunity has come to them to have a Yorubaman as tutor of good things. It's certainly praiseworthy having the Yoruba lead from front and the Igbo following in their wake. Maybe this will seal up their loose lips and tie up their loose tongue for once, who knows. It'll use it to kiss the ground before them, the mouth which the snail abuse the gods with, it will use it to sing their praise.

davido is I:gbo. the only thing Yoruba about davido is his Yoruba name ( he definitely has an I:gbo name )..

his grandma was an I:gbo woman while his granddad was Yoruba, that makes davido's father half Igbo half Yoruba.

davido's father also married an I:gbo woman, which makes all their children ( davido and his siblings ) 0.75 I:gbo and 0.25 Yoruba...

then davido's son ( Ifeanyi ) with C:hioma means Ifeanyi is full blood Igbo boy with a Y:oruba surname..

Valkrie:
Oga...the late former governor Audu Abubakar started that project as Kogi State Cement company, how it metamorphose into dangote cement company is what is baffling the house members and the state...dangote come and show paper dangote cannot show paper cos there was non, that shady deal could have probably happen when the former kogi governor Ibrahim idris took over from Audu....!!

No document at all showing when dangote aquire the company and that's what they are asking to see...!!! No such transaction is anywhere in Kogi State accounting books...!!!

okay... but if it was state owned then the same house members would have been the ones to approve the sale... so why are pretending to be ignorant of a deal they participated in...

Kogi state should build a state owned cement company..

komekn:
Bissouma, Partey, Gueye, Amadou Onana, Kouyaté, Keita, all came from Australia and are white.

the players you mentioned are mostly DMs and Amadou Onana is Belgian and not from Africa...

you didn't even mention Eze and Olise who are still eligible to play for Super Eagles

and are the only ones who can be described as CAMs or attacking midfielders because they are playing for a mid table team.... even Dele Alli is now out of favor...

charlesemeka85:
my football knowledge may be low to you because it doesn’t suit your narrative

De bruyne and others you mentioned are doing it in top leagues and clubs in europe so for nwakali to be in the same sentence with those you mentioned he should mk the leap to a bigger league and make a statement. He is over 5 seasons in europe now after showing so much promise as a cadet player

Imagine lil onyedika bossing ATM in the ucl after just 2 seasons of men’s football? Bro try Dey keep sentiment and bias aside pls

charlesemeka85:
if nwakali is half as good as lil gavi and pedri he won’t be in laliga 2

Okocha is one of the best Nigerian midfielders and he ended up playing for Bolton..
Mikel that was supposed to be a CAM was turned to a DM just to be in the starting eleven..

Our players especially CAMs or CMs no matter how good they are will never be rated high enough to be a top teams CAM in the top 5 leagues..

even Onyedika that we are praising now, If he moves clubs they can end up turning him into a defender...

Nwakali is not European so don't expect him to be highly rated...

charlesemeka85:
well you re right but I listed more deserving players doing it in top leagues in europe

Some may see it as hate but bossing the laliga 2 is not enough to deserve a call up to one of the best teams in Africa unless in a position on the pitch where the super eagles lacks better players in top European leagues

It's not about bossing laliga2. It's about what Nwakali brings.. most good teams have 2 creative midfielders in their starting eleven.

Man City has de bruyne and B. Silva
R.madrid has modric and kroos
Man utd has Eriksen and Fernandez.
Barca has pedri and gavi.

Not including Nwakali shows your football knowledge is low..

charlesemeka85:
dele bashiru, nwobodo and tijani is a no no no!

Sometimes I wonder the way you guys rate players

Bashiru and tijani are injured while nwobodo is in the mls. The latter at his prime shouldn’t be in the mls if he is as good as hyped here

U are making a case for dead woods and injured players but left out aribo who is doing decently well in his first season in one of the toughest leagues in europe

Nawaoooo!

Aribo is a forward player not a midfielder..

Aribo should be playing either left winger or supporting striker.

Anytime Aribo plays as a midfielder for the S.E the midfield is always looking
lean and with Iwobi also trying to join the attack the S.E ends up with a one man midfield and that's bad.

Ennyjay69:
Currently watching brugge vs ath

Why is onyedika not getting minutes for SE?

Because the Nigerian coaches don't value midfielders and call up small number of midfielders.

Iwobi, Nwakali, onyeka, Ndidi , onyedika, alhassan-yusuf, Samson tijani ( currently injured ), Bonke, dele bashiru, nwobodo should be getting minutes for the S.E...

HIScraziness:
My honest advice is to use somebody else’s card. None of these platforms will allow you get a card today unless u do KYC and 7 hours is not enough time to get verified.

ollybode don't use someone else's card...

If the name you registered on the site is not the same name on the card your site account may be flagged for fraudulent activity and blocked until you do a KYC ( Know Your Customer ) and verify your account..

Its better for the person to send the money to your card then pay with that card...

TheSuperNerd:
And that @bolded... partly explains why he should NOT have been invited in the first place. This is part of the tactical viewpoint I wanted Utonwanne to understand.

One, he is a Benchwarmer.

Two, he doesn't have the positional discipline for the role.

On a flip side, Iwobi wasn't even the closest to the ball. It was Moses Simon.
So no excuses made for Nigeria's best player yesterday.


Finally, Onyeka didn't make the right steps into that zone. If he did, we won't be analysing his second mistake which isn't obvious to the peripheral eyes.

How do you call yourself a defensive minded player with instructions to help protect the defence in defensive phases and you are defending space behind that do not lead to the goalmouth from where Atal's shot was taken?

SMH. Enough of this. You are just here defending a underpar showing from a player with very limited abilities but high energy for defensive actions. And even defensively, he still flunked.

Iwobi and the other players outside the box should have closed down the player.. he is on the bench because the team he plays for favors Danish players not because he is not good and he started been benched because he came for AFCON.

Before AFCON he was in the starting 11.

TheSuperNerd:
Mister. I have analysed Onyeka as a Pressing CM on this thread. I know exactly the kind of midfielder he is.

So stop making stale excuses for him.

Now, in the context of yesterday's game, he was the CDM. He was the one primarily tasked with defensive duties. He was the one meant to protect the defence. Did he do a good job of that? Not really.

He did have his defensive moments and won couple of duels, marking and tracking opponents but times and times again, he also left gaps in the middle, showing poor positioning and also didnt cover himself in glory as regards his passing range.

And again, shots like that sometimes get past the first Man trying to block and ends up at the block of the 2nd or 3rd man in the path of the ball.

Had Onyeka been present in his defensive Zone, we would/might not be talking Iwobi close to the ball. Iwobi did what he could.

All he had to do was take up his position centrally in his DM zone and act as a barrier in anticipation of a strike. But no... baba was ball watching.

Onyeka had a generally underpar yesterday. Don't sugar-coat it further abeg.

You're the one making excuses for Iwobi..

A player that is not a DM cannot play the DM position the same way a DM will play it.

When a team is in possession they are in an offensive state but when a team is not in possession they are in a defensive state so all 10 players are meant to protect the defense.

TheSuperNerd:
And he did what he could.

Had Onyeka taken a few more steps, instead of Ball watching and moved into his Actual Primary defensive zone as the CDM, he might have gotten the block that no one else could have achieved.

3 touches leading to the goal was enough time to see Onyeka take up position in his primary zone yesterday.

His tactical sense of positioning and anticipation is underpar. That is the whole point.

Iwobi was ball watching. Iwobi didn't do anything. What you fail to realize is that Onyeka is a CM not a DM.

S.E played without a DM yesterday and a DM would have also been in the box so it's players outside the box like Iwobi that could have prevented the second goal.

TheSuperNerd:
Damn it! How many more of this do I have to put up with this lunch break? Haba!!

And Onyeka wasn't expected to be near the guy taking the shot. Don't misquote me. I clearly explained the scenario.

And what was he defending with the ball already cleared??

All I said is he should have moved more centrally and upwards into his CDM zone at the top of the box. He had the time to do that but didn't even with the ball already cleared and headed outwards of the box towards another Algerian player who then rolled it into Atal's path who took 2 touches for that strike.

That is about 3 touches from Uzoho to Atal before he even struck.


He caused a penalty. Is limited in possession. Shows positional indiscipline for the CDM role leaving gaps in his primary defending zones. And only made a few meters of ball carries which you exaggerate as moving the ball from defence to offense.

Onyeka a gem? With all these limitations and errors yesterday? Really?

Iwobi was the one who should have prevented the second goal because iwobi was the closest to the ball...

charlesemeka85:
the best pivot will be ndidi and iwobi then aribo as the AM

If you play Aribo as AM then your formation will be 2-1-7 when Nigeria is in possession because the FullBacks will join the wingers, Iwobi and Aribo will join the attack which will make the midfield almost empty.

Aribo doesn't drop deep or drop to midfield so he should rarely be played as a midfielder.

In the WC qualifier it was Aribo, ihenacho and bonke... Bonke was the only one in midfield.

If we use your formation against Brazil they will beat the Super Eagles 13 - 0.

TheSuperNerd:
Onyeka cost us a penalty yesterday. Mahrez scored from it.

Onyeka wasn't occupying his DM Zone. Atal scored from that zone.

Defensively he had his moments and did okay. But I am meant to believe he is a gem?? Based on what Holistic Performance exactly?

In key moments of the game, He cost us. Let that sink in.

Onyeka should have only closed down the player instead of tackling the player in the box.

2nd goal wasn't Onyeka's fault. It was from a corner kick uzoho punched the ball and the players outside the box are the ones suppose to win such balls and prevent outside shot. Onyeka was defending in the box so how do you expect him to stop the shot when he was no where near the ball

Onyeka is a gem.. he is faster and more mobile than Ndidi and can run with the ball at his feet and was taking the ball from defense to midfield to offense which is what Nwakali was doing at the AFCON..

A starting midfield of Iwobi, Onyeka, onyedika and Ndidi is the solution to the midfield. Then their substitutes are bonke, Nwakali, alhassan-yusuf , nwobodo.

Utonwanne:
He said something like " imaging Alhasan or Nwakali playing with Iwobi (instead on Onyeka)"

And I replied that they are not an upgrade


So tell me sir, how is that putting words in his mouth?

He could also mean a midfield trio of iwobi alhassan-yusuf/nwakali and onyeka.

You didn't ask you just assumed he was talking about midfield duo of nwakali and onyeka.

komekn:
Height is not speed, strength and or physical resilience with stamina and endurance.

Ngole Kante is probably 5"5 maybe less but he is one of the best midfielder in the world.

In all honesty Nwakali would absolutely struggle in League two

Nwakali would not struggle in League 2... A Swiss Club was interested in signing but the coach that wanted him moved to another club so negotiations broke down..

Utonwanne:
Alhassan is not an upgrade.

He's just there!

elyte89 did not say Alhassan is an upgrade... stop putting words in his mouth...

he said "Iwobi can’t do it alone"... which means he needs other midfielders on the pitch playing alongside him...

elyte89 did not mean replacing Iwobi and the coaches themselves need to ensure none of the players get injured by subbing them off and using a lean midfield does not help If the midfielders on the pitch get injured or sent off... Ihenacho should not be used as midfielder..

Super Eagles already have at least 10 midfielders. so only the coaches know why they don't call up at least 6 or 7 of them:

Iwobi
Nwakwali
Alhassan Yusuf
Obinna Nwobodo
Ramon Azeez
Onyeka
Ndidi
Tijani
Bonke
Onyedika
Dele bashiru.

charlesemeka85:
nwaka wetin? If he was in this game the Algerians would hv bullied him like a toddler playing against men

Nwakali is 5'11 and aggressive, there is no way he would be bullied..

Truidstar:
Make una leave Nwakali to concentrate on his club football. He should forget about National team football for now. I will repeat it again. During international break the league he plays in has matches. You don’t expect the team paying his wages to lose him for international games. Dem go say na bad bele we get… make una free am to concentrate on his club career.

he should at worst be on the bench for International games he is available for...

If Nwakali had played against Ghana, the forwards would have been getting through balls from him and the forward players with pace will have more chances to score.. he would also attempt long range shots...

the national team has 5 players who give through passes and only 2 of those 5 are usually called up and play games.. the 5 players Ihenacho, Iwobi, Nwakali, Olayinka, Amoo... S.E needs players that play as a team not players that see themselves as the hero of the team...

Mujtahida:
Iwobi will. He's currently the most intelligent footballer in our team

Iwobi missed one on one against West Ham due to him holding onto the ball so you're not correct....

Iwobi won't shoot first time..

mostob:
I was actually countering the opinion. I was not the one who opined the idea. Check who I quoted again please

Okay

mostob:
I'm not sure you understand. If not, why would you say I'm used to a lean midfield? Isn't Nwakali and Iwobi a lean Midfield?

BTW, playing Iwobi, nwakali, Ndidi and Onyedika as a Midfield 4? Well, it's not impossible.

You didn't mention any DM so I assumed your forward players will be Simon osimhen moffi chukwueze and your midfield will be nwakali and iwobi with no DM then aina omeruo ajayi bassey in defense. That's what I assumed.

Due to the people and coaches Currently managing Nigerian football it's impossible to have starting midfield four.

mostob:
I don't think you understand my post. Oga Fan want us to have a Midfield of Nwakali and Iwobi in a 442 against Algeria!

We're talking of a lineup here not the general squad.

I understand your post and I'm also talking of a lineup.

typicalgamer:
What’s the difference between their attack now and the set we faces 3 years ago.

3 years ago vini jr was a scam
3 years ago ndidi was god of DM
No raphinha
3 years ago richalison was feather weight
3 years ago Neymar was the focal point of the attack

Which Nigeria player except iwobi, has made significant improvements in the last 3 years to stand toe to toe against this Brazilian. Team

Remember they’re Fxcking ghana without lube, same Ghana we couldn’t breakdown their midfield.

We drew with Algeria team B
All of a sudden Brazil is beneath us

Oga wake up to reality that Nigeria will never pass round of 16 in the next 30 years in a world up.

Brazil's goals came from the wing and set pieces. Brazil is not playing through the midfield.

Once Brazil plays the ball to the midfield the midfield plays it to any of the wings then the wings either plays a cross or cuts inside and passes into box or midfield which this time would be at the semi circle just outside the box.

mostob:
You can't have a Midfield duo of Iwobi and Nwakali especially against a top team like Algeria. Both of them are not so good defensively which means our midfield will be an expressway. Infact, Iwobi and Etebo played well because Sao Tome was a lesser team.

Your problem is you're used to the lean midfield Nigerian coaches use.

Nigeria should have a starting midfield four of iwobi nwakali Ndidi onyedika while bonke onyeka alhassan-yusuf etebo should be on the bench..

For Nigeria to be successful at least 7 midfielders should always be called up.

joelsteron:
Nigeria do not have mad squad anything. Just few average ball playing players. The rest are overrated that are just playing for the money.

Nigeria has a mad squad which like Ghana does not have coaches that prioritize chance creations.

typicalgamer:
Black stars look intimidated

Even super eagles will give Brazil too much respect

They’re playing against their idols duh

All of a sudden all Ghana players forgot how to play ball for friendly

And World Cup pressure never start o

zuchyblink:
Black stars are giving Brazil too much respect.

Ghana aren't giving Brazil respect. Brazil is creating and taking their chances while Ghana isn't creating and taking their chances..

Football is about creating chances to score, the Ghanaian players are not creating scoring chances.

Danielnino00:
The English might have invented football,but the Brazilians really perfected it... The squad depth in that team is mad!

You're right. But Nigeria also has mad squad depth just that our local coaches and technical coaches don't have a playing pattern and don't prioritize team work and also don't prioritize crossing and set plays or set pieces.

Brazil's teamwork, set pieces and wing plays and quick football is what making them beat Ghana.

2 of Brazil's goals are from set pieces. The second goal was Richalison's first time shot, most Nigerian players won't shoot that one first time.

I hope all the Nigerian coaches are watching how Brazil is using their wings despite having good dribblers none of their players is waiting for opposition defenders to catch up to them like the way Moses Simon plays..

fxexperts:
Mofo so Ojukwu was a British man. I am learning new things like this.

the bri:tish leave the people more devastated than they earlier met them. If not for the hardwork and peaceful nature of our ancestors in southern Nigeria, southern Nigerians will be in poverty because the bri:tish created Nigeria in a way where Northern and Southern Nigeria will engage in endless wars...

I intentionally did not mention the fu:lanis...

the N:igerian police force before it was created , was a group of rag-tag northern Nigerians ( history portrays them as H:ausas but in my opinion they were mostly f:ulanis ) formed by the bri:tish to carry out guerilla attacks on tribes that were fighting against the b:ritish by burning down villages, killing, raping e.t.c..

In summary,
the f:ulanis were trained by the br:itish to attack tribes in southern Nigeria who fighting against the british....

In full text,
southern Nigerians were always prepared to attack the Bri:tish if the Brit:ish attacked them. And southern Nigerians of that era empowered each other. When the Brit:ish left Nigeria there was no University in Nigeria.

before the br:itish left Nigeria, the Br:itish did not build one university, our number of primary and secondary schools were very low, br:itish did not build smooth roads all over Nigeria , no housing estates, no plans for clean water for communities, majority of the private companies where owned by the br:itish and they only gave Nigerians clerical work which is what the education system they gave us is meant to produce office assistants.

All the developments you see in Nigeria today from Abuja to lagos to calabar to Akwa-ibom to oyo to Enugu e.t.c are all built by Nigerians, our parents, our grand parents e.t.c the br:itish left Nigeria to rot. Everything you had and have the privilege of enjoying in Nigeria was and is through the hardwork of parents, grand parents, and other Nigerians.