₦airaland Forum

A woman can be a man's companion,Since God has already made it so.But shldn't be on any serious man's A list.

"It's a man's world but it don't mean nothing without a woman on it".(James Brown)

Orinkila or wateva u call urself,i'm restraining my self 4rm using strong language here.Why don't u just spik 4 ur self,plz we've got more pressing issues on our minds.Wat maqs u think i don't want to be the nxt Bill Gates.Hav u eva heard of the word misogynist b4,, guess not.So pls if u've got issues talk to me i can help u.

Wats guan ina di place?Another male bashing thread eh?Only had to look at the topic,didn't bother to read the posts. Pleeeeaaazzzzz ladies get a grip.

After all the hype what next?Remember;
James Ibori

Joshua Dariye

Nnamani

Saminu turaki,should i go on.Plz don't get too xcited,its all a charade.

Well i rilly wldn't blame for remaining docile.Jobs are not that easy to come by,wen u're lucky to get one u want to hold on to it tenaciously.Wasn't it on the same forum we were told how a female manager in Zenith bank made her subordinates to kneel down because they did not mit their targets?Wonders shall neva end.Why don't they have at least two of my type in these banks,walahi talahi them go hear am.

What if the babe meets all d specifications had only 1 b/frnd but has gone thru atleast 5 abortions,is it stiil ok.Guys help out here.

Yes o!I don come here again,gini mega?U all know me,i always says em as i sees em .It's easier said than done "quit the guy""break it off"bla bla bla.Listen girlfrnd b4 u do  anything foolish,think again.For you to fil this way for this other guy means you nid to think seriously abt ur present r/ship,smthing must be wrong.b4 u taq that marriage plunge step on the brakes & think again.I used to hav this female frnd who got involved with this dude just mnths b4 her marriage.She thot she'd get ova the guy afta her m/riage.Well it didn't wk out that way.D mriage crashed after 8mths(or less)Though she claimed her hubby turnd violent afta their marriage but not a few pple blvd her.So think long and hard the choice is urs.

Isn't it sickening the kind of sordid stories we hear coming out of Nigeria.How come one rarely hears anything good, It is either one scandal or the other.It is really pathetic.My people what must we do to salvage this country,is there any hope for the common man.Please read through & give me an honest opinion.


Only a few weak denials have followed the charge that each Nigerian senator now goes home with a minimum of N10 million each month. Surely, these are about the happiest times for the nation’s lawmakers and other public officeholders. The severance allowances and pensions paid to former public servants are simply mind-boggling. Yet, this is a country where 80% of young people have no jobs, more than 70% of the people are poor, and a teacher goes home with N15, 000 per month.

It does not matter that the Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission (RMAFC) - the body used by the ruling class to rig the income policy in Nigeria - recommended the huge sums for public officeholders. What, for instance, do the legislators do to deserve such huge income? How many of them even bother to attend the sittings of the Senate or House of Representatives?

Things cannot get better in a country where public officers are encouraged to loot the treasury by legal or illegal means. RMAFC and its thieving collaborators should be stopped. We all go to the same market.

Fellow nairalanders this has bcome a thorny issue in this country.Politicians & so-called men of God are cashing in on the impoverishment,gullibility and pliabilityof Nigerians.Borishade attributed the ill-fated plane crashes years bak to occultic powers.the governor of Plateau state claimed that his administration has bin bedevild by demonic powers since inception,Obasanjo told Nigerians to leave power problem to God.They have the audacity to maq such statements because they know that Nigerians are notoriuosly religious & wld blv any statement with God or spiritism in it.Plz Nigerians pull that wool off your eyes & see this these men 4 wat they rilly are-con artist. Don't get me wrong i'm not an atheist,i blv in an omnipotent God but i also blv in critical,logical & rational reasoning.

By

Ifedigbo Nze Sylva

nzeifedigbo@yahoo.com

I really did not intend this to be the sequel to my earlier piece “Nigerian Men Of God as Con –Artists” but some thing recently happened that has prompted my raising this issue again earlier than I had planned.

Some days ago in Umuolihe Village, Isiala-Ngwa Local Government area of Abia state, twenty two people lost their lives under questionable circumstances during a deliverance prayer session at a house that was (is) believed to be haunted. No disaster could have been more unfortunate.

Now, I don’t intend to bother myself with the exact circumstances that led to the incident. That would be appropriately the responsibility of the police forensic unit if they ever care to. What I am however bothered about is that these twenty two people whose lives was cut in its prime committed no other crime other than being very loyal followers of a Man of God and would have probably been well alive and hearty today had they stayed back at home with their families on that faithful day.

Perhaps even more dramatic and most worrying is that after the incident the people of the village deserted the area for what the papers described as “fear of the unknown” and non of them sited was willing to comment about the incident. This is unconnected with their fear that the evil spirit which allegedly inhabits the Bungalow and which must have over powered the Man of God (and his people) who came to exorcise it, was on rampage.

The Deeper life Bible Church whose members were said to have been involved in the ill fated deliverance session have in a move that smack of trying to exonerate it self from taking responsibility for the sad event, issued a press release saying that their church never authorized the said prayer session. What more?, they offered words of consolation to the affected families and prayed for the repose of the souls of the victims. Full stop…, end of discussion.

I have a feeling that such nonsense can only happen in Nigeria. People die in such number and it means nothing. By all intent and purpose, that is the last you will hear of this issue. The families will mourn their dead, the villagers will return, the church will continue its business and life will go on.

After my piece “Nigerian Men of God As Con-Artists” was published  on Nigeria Village Square some weeks ago, I got an avalanche of responses and comments which kind of opened my eyes to the extent this church issue has gone and of course to the fact that I am not the only one being nauseated by it.

Like I said in my opening remark in that piece, I knew I was about to steer the hornets’ nest and indeed, the bees went wild. A great deal of people responding either through calls or e-mail messages fell short of calling me a ‘Satanist’ and an ‘apostle of the Devil’ right from the pit of hell just because I had the effrontery to question the moral justification for the now unbearable show of shame in the name of preaching the gospel by our men of God especially as it concerns the ripping off of poor innocent church goers of their hard earned income just to sustain these men of God and their bourgeoisie life style.

The consolation however was that for every condemnation I got, there were five passionate commendations. These included people who shared my opinion, those who had actually been victims of the many gimmicks these Men of God are known for and those who altogether did not believe that there was even a God in the first place.

This piece Is taking a slightly different angle, I want to look at the penchant for our men of God to cash in on our fears to make us prisoners of ourselves and by extension, theirs.

Nigerians are not only very corrupt and the happiest people in the world as some publications had suggested, we are also a very religious people, in my opinion, the most religious people under the sun. Religion is in itself enshrined in the polity such that we have two national religious monuments of impressive architecture located in the heart of our nation’s capital. Our people are so tied to their religious belief which in most cases has been reduced to the tenets of the dictates, not of God, but of whoever was the founder or pastor of the church they attended that they’ve become unable to break free of their limitations and conquer the world like we were called to do in Genesis.

For most people, nothing just happens. Every event from the seemingly irrelevant act of striking their feet against a stone while walking on a stony path, to having a nightmare has a spiritual undertone. So they have been taught to believe by the men of God. So many find themselves incapable of doing anything themselves except as is popularly said “by the grace of God” and a whole lot will not make any effort on their own but will rather sit back and wait for “the grace of God” to perform the miracle.

For example, our national football team the Super Eagles makes a big show of praying before and at half time (if the first half was unfavourable)during matches, yet they would report late to camp ahead of important matches and will not kick a ball unless their fat bonuses are paid up front.

Before we embark on a journey, we pray for journey mercies, this is not withstanding that our tyres are long worn out and begging to be changed and that a component in the engine has been showing repeated signs of giving way, but we have decided to just manage it.

I had a friend back in school who would rather spend the whole of his time in one fellowship programme or the other including travelling out of town into some villages on what they call outreach-evangelism not withstanding his course load as a student of Veterinary medicine. When some of us accost him, he had a ready answer for us that “Pastor” the founder of the church he attended “had prophesized that all that do the work of God will have academic breakthroughs”. After the first professional exams, he was thrown out of the programme.

Our men of God have sustained the belief in and fear for witchcrafts and demons. Just so that we keep running to them for one help or the other, they make it sound like we were living in a world where every other person was an unknown enemy. They don’t fail to tell you that the reason for your problems was a particular member of your family or the actions (or inactions) of some of your long dead ancestors.

While I am not saying that the so called forces of darkness do not exist-I sincerely wish to spare myself such argument-I am only saying that it is wrong by every form of reasoning to tie down our lives in fear of them and by extension make ourselves willing toys to be manipulated by the men of God.

Why does it seem like of all places on earth, all the forces of darkness seem most concentrated in Nigeria? And they, we are told by the men of God, are responsible for all of our problems. They’ve been blamed for our poverty, prevalence of disease, leadership woes and even for the wanton rigging of elections. To advance as individuals and as a nation therefore, the men of God make us believe we have to come down in worship to chase the demons away.

Well, I have never heard of any developed nation that attributed her advancement to religion. Tying our selves to religion keeps us from thinking out of the box and this is responsible to a large extent for our pariah state.

In the unfortunate incident in the village in Abia state mentioned earlier, a house built of cement and block, in this 21st century was said to be haunted and responsible for a series of misfortunes in the family because it was being inhabited by some kind of demon. First and foremost, such a diagnosis could only have been that of a man of God and the decision to free the House of the demon must have also been his. At the end twenty two loyal followers are no more and the church turns around to claim they never authorized the mission. Isn’t it time we began to think?

There is a new church just around my neighbourhood, name withheld. Worshippers of this church can spend the whole night shouting prayers in chorus such as “Enemy, fall down and Die” or “fire, fire, fire” their voices reaching a crescendo. They call it spiritual warfare and I often wonder that if they (the worshipers) exerted the same energy and commitment to their various jobs, academics or business, Nigeria would have long overtaken the United States in terms of development.

This business of using the existence (or not) of an evil being-the devil- to make money has gone too far. You will be surprised to hear of the amount of money that is paid for deliverance to take place or for the man of God to conduct a particular course of prayer or for him to reveal the content of one of his many visions. The higher the pay the more motivated the man of God is and thus the greater the veracity and pitch of his prayer and perhaps the faster the response from God.

I know of a church that forbids its members from owning and watching televisions. Which kind of people do they hope to breed? An uninformed, intellectually bankrupt and retrogressively minded people. How can those people advance in life? I know of others who in the bid to advertise their modern status permit such levels of immorality among her member that it become difficult to reconcile their gatherings with anything Godly. This group tells you that God likes you the way you are and so even when you dress in such a way that leaves virtually all parts of your body that should be rather covered open to public glare, it doesn’t matter to God. 

And how they love money!, just yesterday –a Sunday-(20th july), a friend of mine returned from Church visibly angry. Reason? His pastor had shared out an envelop branded “ Seed Vow” which every member was to collect and indicate the amount he/she would be giving monthly to the church as a “seed” which was supposed to be a “vow” to God. After wards, the Church workers came around to write down what every one had vowed on the envelop so that at the end of the month when you turned in the envelop, the pastor can confirm that you had really paid what you vowed to. This was in addition to the tithe and all others. My friend, an applicant who was hardly surviving had every reason to be mad.

Bottom line is that church business is big business in Nigeria and like is the standard practice, every business fashions out strategies for winning and keeping customers as well as out witting competitors. For our men of God, this includes making us prisoners of such outdated fear inducing concepts as witchcraft and blood sucking demons that we are too powerless to fight ourselves thus the need for us to always run to them for help and continue to help grow their business and sustain their expensive life styles with our offerings, free will donations, seed sowings and compulsory tithes.

What do we do with these Men of God?

Ifedigbo Nze Sylva

www.nzesylva.

This matter has been dealt with & taken care of on a similar thread.No nid to exhume rotten corpses.

For all the talk about banking,i just see it as modern day enslavement,especially with the new generation banks.Enter international NGOs or local NGOs with intnl affiliations and your jaws will drop in awe of their remuneration.Coupled with constant training and human capacity development,NGOs is where its at for me.

Since my last post i'v bin thinkin and deeply too.Wldn't u guys agree with me that a naija babe bak home wld endure more stress of marriage than a naija chick living abroad.Because it can't be rosy all the time.

The truth of the matter is that most naija girls abroad are considered hustlers,if u catch my meaning.Naija guys biliv they're only in a r/shp 4 wat they can get out of it & send to their families bak home,so they avoid them like the plague.

hili666,i cldn't put it more eloquently myself.I wonder y all the strong language to criticise pple who blv in this thing when none of them have made any concious effort to see how tru it is.I personally don't blv a human can morph into an animal but i can't just wave it off as mere figments of ppl's imagination.I still ask, y do pple bliv in a God or Devil they hav neva seen & still doubt the efficacy of the devil?

Ujujoan,i feel u but blind patriotism neva helped anybody.Nigeria is more or less a failed state period.Save for oil where wld Nigeria be today.Other oil producing countries are changing the lives of their citizenry with the sky-rocketing price of oil,what is happening in this country,zilch.A country like the Netherlands which is one of the world's largest producers of oil is saving billions for future generations & also in any event the oil runs out.What obtains in this country,primitive accumulation for self and family.So plz spare us all this sermon abt patriotism,we know better.

what's going on here?Ask the sexclopedia.

But funny enough,this same people who deride others for believing in such stories believe there's a God and there's the Devil,biliv in a heaven & a hell,biliv in in a life hereafter.They also bliv in voodoo,ritual killings,seances.ouija boards etc.What a theatre of contradictions.If u blv that evil does exist then blv that anything is possible.(just my two cents).

Moni,wen i read thru ur list,i just had the feeling u had seen me somewhere b4 typing.

Are u sure u rilly want to hear my opinion?I don't want to get into an altercation this morning o.Hmmm.

Guy, if u nid an honest opinion i can giv u 1.But i know Nigerians are not good at taking the truth,so i'll reserve my comment.

Deepzone what is inflamatory abt the remark.Don't you think this guys need to be told the truth & point blank too in order to wake them up from their slumber.What have they contributed to this entity called Nigeria.They'll even come out to say that they have banned the sale/consumption of alchohol & still insist on sharing VAT with states that sell & consume alchoholic beverages.Bloody hypocrites!!!

Washing a man's cloth is not like cooking for him.I have no qualms with her taking the clothes to the laundromart and besides when u marry a woman in that capacity u already know what u're getting urself into,so row ur boat.(Even if it means washing them urself,though nothing wrong with that still)

But i used to think that masturbation was a better form of abstinence

Wow!! i've neva seen a thread that has piled up so much bile like this one.In as much as most of us wld disagree with Houston,we know that's the bitter truth and things will only get much worse before they get any better.I say this because we're yet to deal with the core of the problem;CORRUPTION.Every administration that comes in wants to be richer than the one b4 it,haba!Smaller African countries that hitherto were looking up to us are moving ahead while we continue to delude ourselves as the "Giant of Africa".I kip asking myself is it too much to ask for steady power supply,good roads,potable water supply,good health facilities etc?What is wrong with this country?Still i must say i'm a Nigerian & i luv u all.(Nice pics too)

Plz can smone xplain to me like i'm a 6yr old what nicer way is there in ending a r/ship without creating some bad blood.Well as 4 me i neva tell a girl off,i just let her read btw the lines.