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petra1:
Nonsense were the priests not levites ?

You asked if Priests aren't Levites. I'll reply you. All Priests were Levites but not all Levites were Priests. Only Levites of the tribe of Aaron could be Priests. You of all people should know this. Now it is common to separate them sometimes in the Bible as the following verse tells us. Read and learn.
Nehemiah 13:5 NKJV - "...the grain offerings, ..., the tithes of grain, the new wine and oil, which were commanded to be given to the Levites and singers and gatekeepers, and the offerings for the priests.
Can you see clearly that their tithes/offerings are separated? Here tithes were even given to singers and gatekeepers. Your pastors dare not!

That’s what they told you.

To gain a clear understanding of what and of who Malachi is speaking about all four chapters should be read and the context considered.
Malachi 1:6 and 2:1 offers evidence that God is specifically addressing the priest, not the people! These two verses are the keys which unlock the entire book of Malachi. God is rebuking His ministers, the priest who are guilty of dishonoring God and despising His name, not the people. This is confirmed if you follow the pronoun “you” from Malachi 1:6 on through the end of the book. Chapter 2:1 becomes the greatest key as for the second time God distinctly makes it clear He is specifically addressing the priest, not the people. Since there is no corresponding text anywhere else in the book of Malachi that God has changed his primary audience, then the conclusion must be that God did not change his audience for the remainder of the book.

He says THIS WHOLE NATION!

Yes, the priests robbed God and robbed the whole nation too by placing defiled food on God's altar and saying "the LORD's table is contemptible" (Malachi 1:7), and "bringing blind animals for sacrifice" (Malachi 1:8 ) when the people actually offered pleasant offerings (Malachi 3:4)

Do priests have farms?

Well I don't know about farms but the Levites(which may have included the priests) where given pasture lands for rearing their livestock (Numbers 35:1-4). There's no mention of the priests being excluded from this arrangement.

Loveaflame:
MY HUMBLE REPLY TO MR FREEZE’S BELIEFS ON TITHES AND OTHER ISSUES HE RAISED PART 2

POINT 2: HIS STANCE ON DEUTERONOMY 14:22-26


So, Mr. Freeze is wrong about his assertions on Deuteronomy 14:22-26. When you understand the three types of tithes, then you would have a clue as to whether such should continue or not. We shall look at this later.

After you're done with your copying and pasting, come back and we'll debunk every lie you tell.

petra1:
God bless you. It's appalling how far non givers will go to desecrate scriptures just to excuse their conscience .

Malachi 3:8 (KJV)
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me.
But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee?
In tithes and offerings.

Daddy freeze fed on the gullibility of Nigerians . There are so gullible that they didn't bother to scrutinize his lie.

God was talking to the Priests my friend. The people were paying tithes but the priests were not giving the levites their dues. They were diverting the tithes away from the storehouse. Let us hear word with this your Malachi 3:8 that you don't even understand abeg

Loveaflame:
I want to use this time to give a humble Bible reply to his beliefs because it seems so many believers have been carried away by his oratory prowess in convincing people to believe his personal opinions of The Bible concerning tithes and some other issues.

Okay. You are obviously the one who is being carried away by the oratory prowess of your Pastors who can't defend a Jewish law that they want to sneak into Christianity because it profits their pockets. The Bible is clear concerning tithes, don't be dogmatic. I'll list two incontrovertible facts with scriptures. If you agree with them, then you'll see clearly that there is no way there can be tithing in modern day Christianity. If you disagree with them, come with scriptures and facts. If you cannot refute them, then your teaching on tithes is invalid.

Fact #1
There has been money/currency since the time of Abraham down to this present day in the land of Israel.

Genesis 23:16 NKJV - "And Abraham listened to Ephron; and Abraham weighed out the silver for Ephron which he had named in the hearing of the sons of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, currency of the merchants."

Numbers 3:47 NKJV - "you shall take five shekels for each one individually; you shall take them in the currency of the shekel of the sanctuary, the shekel of twenty gerahs."

There are a hundred and one other bible verses that mention shekels of silver in use in the early days. So the fact remains that money was in use during the time of our early fathers. Transactions were ongoing in full force as the Bible records that there were merchants in those days.

Fact #2: God was clear and specific about tithes. Tithes was never money but food in form of crops or animals

Let's compare two verses in the book of Leviticus.
1. Leviticus 5:15 NKJV - “If a person commits a trespass, and sins unintentionally in regard to the holy things of the Lord, then he shall bring to the Lord as his trespass offering a ram without blemish from the flocks, with your valuation in shekels of silver according to the shekel of the sanctuary, as a trespass offering."
Notice here that Trespass offering = Ram without blemish + shekels of silver. This law came before the law of tithing and money is explicitly mentioned as a requirement. Now let's see if money was mentioned in the command of tithing according to the next verse from the same book of Leviticus.

2. Leviticus 27:30‭-‬33 NKJV - "And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord’s. It is holy to the Lord. If a man wants at all to redeem any of his tithes, he shall add one-fifth to it. And concerning the tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord. He shall not inquire whether it is good or bad, nor shall he exchange it; and if he exchanges it at all, then both it and the one exchanged for it shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.’”
Wow! No mention of 'shekels of silver'? Why? Not even one shekel? This can't be true. Sorry but that's not what God required for tithes. He wanted only food, whether grains or livestock and never money. But you can prove me wrong and show me where tithes was given as money. Don't bother quoting Deuteronomy 14:22-26, it would be an epic fail for you.

The priests were not the one’s robbing God but the whole people of Israel. His assertions are therefore not true. If you’re a true Bible believer, then you should believe The Word as it is written and never has someone intends it to be.

The Priests were the ones robbing God. The people were bringing their tithes of grain and livestock but the Priests were not giving the Levites their due portion as they were diverting(stealing or robbing) them. I can prove this to you whenever you're ready. It's a comprehensive topic on its own

hadow:
give me a scriptural reference

Genesis 23:14-20 NKJV
And Ephron answered Abraham, saying to him, “My Lord, listen to me; the land is worth four hundred shekels of silver. What is that between you and me? So bury your dead.” And Abraham listened to Ephron; and Abraham weighed out the silver for Ephron which he had named in the hearing of the sons of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, currency of the merchants. So the field of Ephron which was in Machpelah, which was before Mamre, the field and the cave which was in it, and all the trees that were in the field, which were within all the surrounding borders, were deeded to Abraham as a possession in the presence of the sons of Heth, before all who went in at the gate of his city. And after this, Abraham buried Sarah his wife in the cave of the field of Machpelah, before Mamre (that is, Hebron) in the land of Canaan. So the field and the cave that is in it were deeded to Abraham by the sons of Heth as property for a burial place.

petra1:
What do you mean out of context. I challenge you to prove me wrong by the scripture .Is The tithe to God the same that is used for feast and daddy freeze beer?

For God's sake, please how is it different?
Deuteronomy 14:23‭-‬26 KJV: "And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: Then shalt thou turn it(that tithe you could not carry) into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household."

Don't be stupid to try and change scriptures because you want to spare your Pastors' blushes. The Bible is clear on the matter of the Israelites converting their tithes (which is not money) into money (which was existent at the time) only on the condition that you could not carry your tithe to the place the Lord God chose.

Sure , what makes you think tithe is one of them. the things that shadows of Christ are fulfilled in Christ but yet in the law there are principles there which are forever among which is tithe , offering, alms giving,thanksgiving ,fasting ,etc

What make you think he didn't ? He was a Jew and he fulfilled all righteousness

There is no mention of Jesus and His apostles giving tithes. The onus is on you to prove to us that it happened. But there's a notable mention of Him paying tax. Which was more important? Tax or tithes? I don't think the Bible deliberately left that out, it would have been mentioned at least once in one of the Gospels. The Apostles didn't pay after His death either, it would have been mentioned. They didn't even admonish the Greeks on the essence/importance of paying tithes. My conclusion on the whole matter is that Tithes had been done away with. But if you come up with an instance (I mean just one) of either Jesus or the Apostles paying tithes or admonishing their followers to do same, I'll accept any other thing you say, even if it's a lie.

And for your information Jesus also endorsed tithing. He said men should tithe and not leave other important things out.
Matthew 23:23

Of course Jesus also endorsed the law of going to the priest after being cleansed of leprosy as seen in Luke 5:14 NKJV: " And He charged him to tell no one, “But go and show yourself to the priest, and make an offering for your cleansing, as a testimony to them, just as Moses commanded.”"
If you tell me this is obsolete, I'll tell you tithing is too. If you tell me it's not necessary, I'll tell you tithing isn't too. As long as we both agree they were endorsed by Jesus, same rule applies to them both.

Jesus is our Passover. It's fulfilled in Christ. But there's no fulfillment for tithes and offering and alms and honoring your parents . If there is, show me

Our priestly calling is also fulfilled in Christ because He "...has made us kings and priests to His God and Father..."(Revelation 1:6 NKJV). He didn't say this priestly privilege is only for your pastors but for us all. We have all become one tribe in Christ.
So if there was still the practice of tithes, we (the Sons of God) should be receiving tithes instead.

javakind:
No.

4.Now in the new Testment Jesus told us in Mathew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

Quick question bro. When Jesus said the above words, what did He really mean? What does "fulfilling the Law and the Prophets" mean? How did Jesus fulfill the law? How did Jesus fulfill the Prophets? This is a test of your scriptural knowledge and I want you to answer it comprehensively. Then we'll proceed to trashing your bunch of gobbledegook and free you and your ilks from the curse of the law of tithing.

royalbeauty:
I wish u can spare some time and be humble enough to learn.

My dear, don't waste your precious time on that dogmatic fellow. He is irredeemable! His bias is of immense proportions. Very illogical in his approach to the topic, baseless and most times quotes irrelevant bible verses.

DadaStephen1:
Tithing: A Scriptural Analysis.
By Dada-Stephen

INTRODUCTION:
There has been a lot of controversies and confusion on the subject matter of tithing, who tithes should be paid to and whether it is important to tithe or not.
I am not attempting therefore to be correct or prove anyone right or wrong, rather I will attempt to bring together what the scriptures say about tithing and possibly share a bit of personal tithing experiences.

My attempt is to prove some of your statements wrong, of course by quoting the bible in the RIGHT context, to the glory of God our Father.

It is imperative and of great quintessence to note above all that tithing is only a CHRISTIAN concept which ought to be understood and discussed by Christians only since it doesn’t apply to people outside of the Christian faith.

This is where you started to get it wrong. Tithing is NEITHER a Christian principle NOR a Christian concept. It is a JEWISH principle whether Abrahamic or Levitical. So if we are to go by your argument, only the Jews should discuss tithes.

As it is written in II Corinthians 2:14
...Ecclesiastes 9:14 – 18

These two verses you quoted here are not within the context of this discussion. In 1Corinthians 2:1-15, Paul was talking about the importance of having the Spirit of God (The Holy Spirit), so as to understand God's secret wisdom (v7). He's saying that the rulers of that age - including the Pharisees and Saducees who understand tithing more than you do - did not have the wisdom we have through the Holy Spirit, for if they had, they would not have crucified our Lord Jesus (v8), but that God has revealed it to us by his Spirit (v10). I would love to go further but let's stay on tithes please.

Ideally, priests (pastors) are usually called to work on full time basis and our tithes are expected to be the sources of their remuneration...Pastors today are seen as Levites/Priests.

Here we go again. For the umpteenth time, Pastors are not Levitical Priests but if you say they are just priests, you are right. But aren't we who are not pastors also priests? Peter says it in 1Peter 2:9. John also corroborates it in Revelations 1:6 & 5:10. So no Christian is left out of this heavenly calling by the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Jesus Christ (Hebrews 3:1)

They are not expected to be involved in anything else apart from mediating between divinity and man. However, they must never lack anything since they are the representatives of God on earth.

You are wrong again bro. Whyyy? The perfect rebuttal for this is in 2Thessalonians 3:6-15.
"For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies." Tell your Pastor to go and get a job so that he won't be a burden to you.

It was so specific that tithes must be paid to the house of God and to the priests.

Tithes was never money to be paid. Albeit there was money/currency (Numbers 3:47-50) during the time of Moses, God was specific about what tithe he wanted. "...tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord’s. It is holy to the Lord...tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord. Leviticus 27:30‭, ‬32 NKJV

Remember I said tithing used to be a law, Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. See what He said in Mathew 23:23

First of all, Levitical tithing is a law, just like the Sabbath, Pentecost, Passover all all the other ordinances and customs in the Old Testament.
Now let us deal with the famous Matthew 23:23. Jesus could not stop the Israelites from giving tithes yet because, he had not died. His blood was needed to be offered once and for all so that, the law could be changed.
Let us read Luke 5:13‭-‬14 NKJV "Then He(Jesus) put out His hand and touched him, saying, “I am willing; be cleansed.” Immediately the leprosy left him. And He charged him to tell no one, “But go and show yourself to the priest, and make an offering for your cleansing, as a testimony to them, just as Moses commanded.” " This is Jesus recognizing and recommending a law of Moses in the book of Leviticus 13:1-3 & 14:2-32 to a man He just healed. Please tell me this is still relevant today. You guys never fail to amaze me with your cherry picking of the parts of the Bible that favour you.

God never makes anything compulsory, so tithing is not compulsory.

Quick question for you. Is a law binding or voluntary? You shall not kill. Does it mean you can either kill or not kill? Tithing is a commandment, it was a commandment in the law to give it, it wasn't freewill. But Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law (Galatians 3:13), so we now give the Christian way, which is as a man purposeth in his heart (2 Corinthians 9:7), not according to a formula, not to Pastors, but for the ministry and those who lack.

The rest of what you wrote is just a bunch of gobbledegook.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

Veraatabeh:
For the past few month i have been seeing freezer comment concerning tithe to pastor adeboye. Firstly i want ask wat happened to our adage of "the words of our elder re always right nd wat will take a young man to carry ladder to climb a mountain to see properly an old man sitting on a chair has already see it.Back to daddy freezer that has no respect for an elderly man old enough to be his grandfather let me put it in ur mind tithes dont make pastors rich. Wat is tithes: tithes is a sum of money given by people in church to the pastor. But the question how many Christian pay tithe nowadays those ranting nd shouting check their tithe book they haven't pay anything, frm the little tithe giving to pastor he will used it to build the house of God, pay his minsters nd choirsters and lastly take the rest to less privileged.Tb Joshua, oyedepo etc where do u think they get that money nd foodstuffs to give the less privileged.Muslims re the ones even paying tithes becos they knw they re nt doing it becos of man but God.Mind u those private jets was brought by someone to daddy adeboye nd oyedepo.Christians shld pls stop washing their dirty linen outside for the whole world to see instead we shld leave God to judge.Thanks for giving this small girl privilege to speak on narialand

You write like a teenager so I'll give you some advice instead of refuting your post. If you are still in secondary school, you're doing great but if you're in the University, then you'll need to start learning asap how to write better, how to organize your thoughts and how to argue. This is the time to improve on your person and not rely on conjectures. There's a compulsory first-year course in our universities called Philosophy and Logic, take it seriously especially the part that has to do with fallacies in reasoning. Apostle Paul used philosophy when he preached the Gospel to the Philosophers at Athens, in case someone here "warns" you against it. You'll thank me later for this as you'll become less dogmatic as you read and be able to sift the serious from the mundane. A lot of your fellow senior tithe apologists have a poor show of objectivity when they discuss tithes and most other issues. Read books that would broaden your scope. Read your Bible too, and then get ready to win souls for Christ. God bless you

sarrki:
Also, according to Mr. Abdullahi, present at the meeting was “Emeka Ihedioha, who had just contested and lost the governorship election in Imo State and was challenging the results”. How could this have been possible when the gubernatorial elections did not hold until April 11, 2015, 11 clear days AFTER this purported meeting?

Can Mr. Abdullahi explain this? Did Emeka Ihedioha travel to the future in a time machine and return to the past with a prophecy?

You see, no matter how far and fast falsehood has traveled, it must eventually be overtaken by truth.

APC men are known for lies and propaganda.

michaelwestern:
1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

1Co 14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself;

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in anunknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

There are times when speaking in tongues is just personal prayers to God through the Holy Spirit.

Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holyfaith, praying in the Holy Ghost.

For starters, the word "unknown" does not appear in the original Greek manuscripts. Recent English versions of the bible have corrected this error so you won't find "unknown" or "heavenly", it's just tongues. Thus, it is not an unknown language but one that exists on earth but miraculously never learnt by the speaker. Acts 2:4-12

Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:27-28 guides on how we should conduct our services with regards to speaking in tongues and says tongue speakers should keep quiet if there's no interpreter. It's quite simple; No interpreter, no tongues. How many of our churches adhere to this?

Very weak argument by SageTravels. Trying to convince us to pay tithes with emotions like your pastors do instead of facts. When you bring in emotions or sentiments into an argument, you don't sound intelligent like Christ or even Paul did. They were equipped with the scriptures. When will you people ever realize that tithes was food (farm produce or animal) and was never money? Leviticus 27:30-34.

The Christian ministry ought to be supported but did the early apostles collect tithes to support the gospel? Until you point to a bible verse from Acts to Revelation where the Christians gave tithes or where admonished to give tithes (if you find it, I promise to come and pay tithes in your church but I bet you won't because even your Pastor is still looking for it), keep reading your Bible and learn from the likes of paxonel who read their bibles and cannot be swindled.

Read 2Thessalonians 3:6-15 & 1Thessalonians 2:1-12 and be wowed. No tithe-preaching pastor ever reads these bible passages to their congregation.

My brother, God bless you for this. You hear the tithe apologists' views on this topic and you cringe. Their arguments are most of the time baseless. "You're missing out on the blessings of God if you don't tithe", "If you like pay, if you don't like then don't pay" and so on. No relevant biblical quotations from them. If they manage to quote a bible verse, it would be totally irrelevant to the topic of discussion but trust them to find a way to twist it to try and fit into the context they want. There's no way to spin it, tithes have gone with the old covenant as seen in Hebrews 8:13 NKJV "In that He says, “A new covenant ,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away."

But if you insist you must tithe, then be true to the tenets as is contained in the book of the law. Leviticus 27: 30-34 & Deuteronomy 14: 22-29 is replete with how to go about your tithing. It is stated clearly how, what and where you should tithe. Don't attempt to twist scriptures in your favour. Good luck on that.

For the Abrahamic tithe people, it is stated explicitly in Hebrews 7:4 that Abraham "...gave a tenth of the spoils" (I know somebody in one forum that said he disagrees with the writer of Hebrews on this) and he only tithed once. Never again was it mentioned that he gave tithes. There were no priests to collect tithes so logically who would he pay it to? The only mentioned priest in Abraham's time was Melchizedek who was "...without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually." Hebrews 7:3 NKJV

True story: This happened two weeks ago. My cousin got married at an Assemblies of God Church here in Lagos. The reception was held at the church hall. He paid "tithes" from the proceeds of the wedding. I wept for Christianity that day. Like how do you pay tithes from wedding gifts? Someone said its an income too. Damn!
Back in the uni, we were inundated with stories of students that were mandated to pay tithes of their school fees, monthly allowances and scholarships. It's just sad. Teach people to give to God out of their volition and stop calculating for them. Teach the rich amongst you to give to the poor and stop extorting from both.

Ken4Christ:
Do the priest of old give financial records to the people for auditing? Did the Apostles did that. Men of God are only accountable to God and not man. If they mismanage or misappropriate the fund, it is God who will judge them and not man.

Oga no vex, the apostles did not collect tithes. And your arguments are weak and baseless. It's one of the problems I have with most of these tithe apologists. I'll tell you this for free, the tithe controversy is one of the many problems that Christianity of today is riddled with. After this, we will now talk about the sole-proprietorship businesses that we call churches today. We must return the churches to the path of the models set by the early apostles/disciples by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

Gombs:
Tithing was before the law. Get a bible

I talked extensively about this on the first page of this thread. Bro please look it up and refute. There are some unanswered questions in there. Thanks

felixomor:
Before judaism, there was already tithe

There were other (somewhat more important to God than pre-Judeo tithes) things that existed before Judaism and later became an ordinance in Judaism. A good example is burnt offering like the classic case of Cain and Abel, Abraham and so on, but you cherry pick tithing and leave the others. For the sake of argument, I'll indulge you.

There are only two biblical accounts of pre-judeo tithing;
1. Abraham: Genesis 14:18-20 - He tithed of the spoils of war, not of his possessions or income. And it is recorded he only did it once as there were no earthly priests to offer them to. Note that Melchizedek was a "priest of the Most High God...without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God and remains a priest continually." (Hebrews 7:1‭, ‬3 NKJV)

2. Jacob/Isreal: Genesis 28:20-22 - He made a vow to give God a tenth. Mind you he said God not a priest. There were no priests or prophets as at this time. So please pray tell how he fulfilled this vow because the Bible didn't give us a feedback.

My point is simple, if you're going to abide by a principle, follow through. If you want to do pre-judeo tithing, give the tithe of your spoils to a "priest of the order of Melchizedek" like Abraham did or be like Jacob, that is, of course, after you find out how he fulfilled his.

But there's good news. Giving in Christianity has a model that is still applicable today, as recommended by Jesus Christ himself. Read up Matthew 25:35-40.
The Apostles of Christ also had recommendations that are still applicable in our time. 1 Corinthians 16:2; 2 Corinthians 9:7. You should also support evangelists and ministries who intend to preach the gospel to people around the world, not Pastors who only preach prosperity and live a life of luxury on members' money gifts and refuse to labour.

Apostle Paul did not burden his members whenever he went to preach the gospel and so he worked for his food, instead of exacting it on his members

II Thessalonians 3:6-15 NKJV - But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us. For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread. But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good. And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

Thank you.

Hier:
Compulsory as how

Was your giving in church at anytime compulsory, were you held at gun point

by the way, you are required to give

Galatians 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

Wow! So you don't know that tithing is a commandment? Just negodu

felixomor:
Its not your business!
You are not a Christian.

Just as the tenets of budhism or any other religion wont make sense to me, so dont expect Christian tenets to make sense to you

Funny thing is, it's not even a Christian tenet. It's a Jewish practice.

Most of these tithers never ever have strong logical arguments. Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils of war to Melchizedek. No mention was made of his livestock or produce, but spoils of war, and he gave it willingly. Tithing as practised in the Mosaic law was a commandment and there were specifics on what you could give. You couldn't offer fish as tithes for example. There was only one condition for tithing silver/money - if your tithe was too heavy to carry to wherever the Lord commanded - otherwise come bearing your tithes. But all these was Judaism.

Fast forward to the New Testament, the teachings of the Apostles, the model for Christianity
1 Corinthians 16:1-2 KJV - Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

oyinlove15:
As in ehn same here too o. Please what was your course of study?

Got my reject mail yesterday. I guess dragnet used a random selection process in sending invites for the aptitude test. Very unfair and unprofessional of them but we move on. They should have given every qualified candidate a chance to write the aptitude test like they did during the NBC technician trainee recruitment.
PS. I have a 2'1 in Elect/Elect Engineering

adakoleagbenu:
we wey never get invite nko

Same here. No invite till now and the test is tomorrow. Dragnet just wan frustrate person life more. I just hope and pray they're sending invites in batches and that this is probably the first and others will come

You won't go for NYSC if you gain admission into the university at 28 or over

I just dey here dey see people comments. How young guyman dey starve himself say he dey use 4k chop in a month.

See current price of food items and other things and how I buy them as a Corper serving in Kwara state. I get N0.00 monthly from my PPA.

Airtime - 500 (Necessary for calls)
Sub - 1500 (Glo don dey mess up so Airtel)
Tea - 700 (2 rolls of Cowbell coffee @350)
Milk - 800 (Three crowns 500g sachet)
Rice - 2400 (4 Congos of long grain @ 600)
Beans - 1000 (2 Congos @ 500)
Spag - 500 (2 sachets @ 250)
G. Oil - 900 (1 litre of Kings oil)
P. Oil - 1400 (2 75cl bottles @ 700)
Garri - 1400 (2 Paint rubbers @ 700)
Yam - 500 (2 tubers)
Gas - 1300 (3kg)
Water - 880 (1 bag @ 140 - 11/2 bags p week)
Soups - 4000 (At least 1k/wk for Soups & stew)
Misc - 3000 (List includes toothpaste, bathing soaps, detergents, bar soaps, sugar, sachet tomato, knorr seasoning, bleach, starch, onions etc)

Total = 19780

How much remain to save na?

PS: There's still a lot more to add to the above list like transport, drinks, barbecue fish, suya and beer with friends over the weekend, football games etc.

The beginning of the death of all Ponzi schemes in Nigeria

Smellymouth:
Nigeria 3 --- Algeria 1.
Moses, Mikel, Moses (MMM)
Nairalanders ======>

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/ayne.gif

Pls remind me the title of dis movie

A country of clueless leaders

Seriously, this useless Abang is beginning to get on my nerves
Na dat stupid Sheriff give u mouth sha

But why hasn't the Supreme Court been called upon to resolve this seeming conundrum? Abi party matter no dey consign dem

Anyway Abang can go to hell, our convention will hold

Zombies never chi chomtin

Dondave11:
Mehn.. Ah swear betting no easy..

Na real hardwork plus brainwork..

Broda no be small. The annoying part na say after all the permutations, one game go come cast you. That has been my curse bruh

But I chop last night sha Anyway, today is another day.

“A luta continua, Vitoria e certa”

Will they also change their names from Polytechnics to Unversities and start awarding degrees instead of diplomas

Will an HND student now proceed directly to do his/her masters like the BSc grad or still go through the PGD route?

Will an HND grad still be called a Technologist after his COREN certification instead of an Engineer like his BEng friends?

These are some of the many pertinent questions we need to ask

If you ask me, i'd say Universities >>> Polytechnics cos I've tasted both worlds from two of the best federal institutions in this country of ours. Whoever has had such opportunity will tell you same.

It doesn't change the fact that our standard of education is abysmally low tho.