EarlyCareer:


True. Inflation seems to compound many of their present challenges too, the bills keep piling up. The wealth inequality is also shocking, and the form of capitalism they practice is also partly the reason why in many parts of their country, workers are threatening to unionise e.g. John Deere. People especially blue collar are also silently revolting. - they've tagged it "the great resignation". Folks are just tired of working. If you'd ask me, they work non stop there. That's a recipe for health disaster

I thought that Nigerian work environment is generally toxic, but after reading a few posts there, I can say its almost the same or even worse there. You can get fired in a second. And once health insurance is lost, one bad illness can throw you into much deeper debt. People are still making it there, but I'm not sure that that number is part of the majority.

Remote work is a game changer for freelancers, and many highly skilled workers. You get the best of both worlds - sort of. Great income via forex, low cost of living, low tax, and in some cases, great benefits and bonuses. If you have a good savings habit and can keep such jobs or gigs for at least 5 years, you'd have accumulated good money which can be invested.

You are so right!

I am always thankful that I discovered this thread and this section. The discussions have really been enlightening and helped in getting my finances in order.

Thank you for the conversation.

emmanuelewumi:



I agree with you, even if you studied Busines Administration and you have built duplexes in Europe and US that experience is enough for you to build 30 storey skyscraper in Lagos and our big men will buy an apartment for a minimum of $1.5 million in that paradise in the sky project

For the first time I know this one!
But let me drink warra and mind my business

EarlyCareer:


Haha. I joined that subreddit a while back.

Such an eye opener. Abroad is not the eldorado that many young and uninformed Nigerians think it is. The stories of toxic work environments, very low wages and their struggles to make ends meet is quite revealing, and sad too. Many European countries are faring better than the USA in terms of better living and work standards. Blue collar workers are worse hit.

Bottom line, as it has been discussed many times here, if you have a good source of livelihood, forget abroad., or take your time to pick a good country. Some African countries are even better.

This is an understatement!!!

As a freelancer, I recently interviewed for a $40/hr position. I was bummed when I did not get it but that feeling vanished when I stumbled on that subreddit.

Much of the people there are earning between $7 - $22/hr. I even saw where someone is earning $2.50/hr in America! To put it in context, I started freelancing a while back and I was charging $15/hr as a newbie, in Nigeria.

And these positions over there require you working 80 hours a week, at least. For me, it’s a very busy week when I work up to 30 hours. Sad thing is that most of them are juggling 2-3 jobs and still can’t make ends meet!

I am presently camped on that sub and just reading. I am still reading. The fact that this is mostly the experience of white Americans is another thing that makes me shudder. Like they say over there, “If white America catches a cold, black America gets pneumonia, not cough.” So if the whites are shouting like this…

It is well.

Still on this US subject, I stumbled on the antiwork subreddit where Americans where bemoaning the fate of their country and how they are poorly paid, with many even calling their country a shithole and asking for Europe to colonize them.

I almost thought I was on nairaland.
It made me realize that maybe the true divide is between the haves and the haves not. All these issues about race, tribe, religion are just mere distractions.

pocohantas:




When I talk, one redpiller will start quoting me with terrible English.

Despite the fact that our mothers married early, if you come for their 20yrs old daughters in 2021, they will pursue you! Affliction shall not rise a second time. They will tell you to allow her to graduate. Next they’ll tell you to allow her to serve. Then they will tell you to allow her to get a job. All this is to buy time!

The major exception is if you both are relatively young or they are so broke they need you to elevate. If not, they will look out for their daughter because the kind of men you would meet when you are working in KPMG is different from the ones you meet as a broke undergraduate.

If you are a man above 34, you must bring more to the table. If you want a very young educated girl from a middle class home, you must make her very comfortable. She can’t be trekking under hot sun and jumping Obalende bus with a man that conductors would mistake for her uncle/father.

I can so relate.

My parents married very early. In fact, my mama don born all her children finish at my age.
But my papa no even wan hear 'mar' not to talk of 'rriage' from me now.
He will ask me where I am rushing to or who dey pursue me.
His own na to send me every news about NOI, Christine Lagarde, Chimamanda et al. But I just want to be a baby girl

So when I see some girls talking about pressure from family to marry, I find it difficult to relate.
Indeed, times are a changing.

pocohantas:


Except her father himself is a professor, I don’t think it is a question that comes up when the man is doing well for himself. A man that they saw physically.

I hope with time men will begin to understand the times we are in. An educated YOUNG girl in her prime won’t just marry the average advanced bachelor when she has options. That thing ended in 1998 when Anambra traders were marrying doctors/lawyers and keeping her in their shops.

In this generation of iPhone and fur-slippers-girls, she will chop your money, help you to waste your time till you clock 40. Then she’ll disappear when you least expect it.

Love is not enough. Let’s all be realistic and strategic in this thing.

Shebi you have started again.
You want them to accuse you of wanting this high value mail for yourself, okwaya?


@op, someone once said that "men are the prize" is only for men with money o!
Do with that what thou will.

WoundedLamb:


I read this post along with a friend, and he called me "social media influencer!" Haha...

Actually, it's a heart warming feedback cause sometimes, it feels like no one really wants to understand that we can't achieve the society we dream of if we keep thinking certain people don't deserve the privileges we enjoy.

Oh most of us understand but it's a battle of egos. It doesn't help that there is also a massive indoctrination going on.

This site was never this bad; the toxicity was usually contained to the politics section. This section was primarily for lighthearted banters and flirtings. That was until a Zimbabwean baby daddy arrived with his redpill ideology to 'free men' from their chains. Imagine Nigerian men believing they are victims of women! This same Nigeria that a man can throw out his wife of 30years from "his house" with nothing and no one blinks an eye.

You've been around long enough so you must have known about the NL pageants that used to be a massive buzz around here. I shudder to think of the dehumanization those women would be subjected to if it were to happen today.
The site is fast turning into a sausage fest and I think they prefer it that way.

Anyway, they can bark and vent online about how we should be like their mothers; we've allowed them that space. It won't stop the already changing tide.
They also know the tide is turning which is why the screeching is at an all-time high.

WoundedLamb:


Oh... and thanks for attempting to write me in French. I'm not even going to tell you how you destroyed the language.

Thanks, really.

Gah!
I'm sorry I won't apologize for the destruction. That's an acceptable rookie mistake for a native English speaker.
I've been learning the language for some months now on Duolingo and it's been...sigh. I just don't understand why words have to be male and female. Sexism is just everywhere
It was fun understanding some of the sentences you wrote in French, though. It lets me know my lessons are not in vain.

I'll try again.

Tu es genial

WoundedLamb:


That's awesome. Javascript is not my stronghold but I use Typescript for POS and React for UI when I have to. Working for a company in the US while you're in Nigeria gives you the economic advantage. Actually, that makes you much better than most of us here who earn and spend in dollars. Best of luck!

Regarding your question, I don't subscribe to labels cause definitions are subjective and they come with baggage. But I am an apologetic advocate of fairness/equality in all its kinds, and I really don't see why everyone shouldn't be.

Hmm...
Some hours ago, I was really incensed about a post on nairaland and logged in to "enter the gutters" with the poster. But first, I calmed myself down a bit to look through the profile of the offending nlder.

And that was where I stumbled on a post of yours he quoted.

I immediately thought you were female. And so I went through your posts.

Some hours later, I have all but forgotten about the anger that made me log in. Seeing Nigeria through the eyes of a non-native is sad and hilarious at the same time. Couldn't help chuckling at your honest reactions to some things deemed normal here especially the insults.

I really don't know why I am writing this but thank you for being a male with empathy. It's difficult finding it around here.
Thank you for your civility and choosing to share your experiences without being condescending.

Tu es génial personne

pocohantas:


You know we have one of the largest (I dare say the largest) representation of black immigrants abroad. So we are well represented in good and evil. The ratio is just grossly imbalanced.

You are right

Men with money are always givers. That’s why their cash flow never runs dry. The joy dey get from giving is something they love.

But you see those hungry ones whose eyesight have been destroyed by too much garri drinking
Na dem dey see gold diggers everywhere

Op well done. I am sure you will get valuable advice.

AlphaLion:
So fintechs with the tashere money Dey handle are the ones driving the economy

When dey beg some of you to read and be informed, una no go gree. Just spewing trash everywhere.

Mumu calling other people dumb.

Off your mic

pocohantas:


I don’t know why they keep doing that conversion, because earning almost 1m is a lot in Nigeria. Someone earning that amount would be far from poor by Nigerian standard.

Black kids are more interested in sports and entertainment. Someone once complained to me that he went to the UK and he kept looking for Nigerians (blacks) in certain sectors. I guess they are okay with earning and sending some back home for building projects. Every other thing is jara.

But yet they always claim they are the most successful immigrants in the abroad

I am making this post to thank Rawlingsko for a very seamless transaction. This was my first purchase on nairaland and of course, I was a bit apprehensive.

But he not only reassured me, he went ahead to deliver exactly what he promised. I got my stuff today at a bargain price and I am thankful.

Thank you to Rawlingsko and to everyone else who keeps this corner of NL sane.

This one no concern African men.

They are busy monitoring toto mileages.

Good evening guys.
Please can I get a vouch for chelseaaman?
Is it okay to transact with him?

Thank you

emmanuelewumi:



You know what, don't be surprised if it was the business that was paying his bills in the UK.

When his father died, the business suffered and could not pay his bills again, so he decided to come and manage it himself.

I have relatives in Nigeria that are sending annual grants of up to $30,000 from their family business to each of their children in the US, the family business also pays the school fees of their grandchildren, assists with mortgage payments etc. The parents are now in their 80s, let us hope the workers will be faithful by the time the founders are gone. If not the children might be forced to sell the business to the workers and management at giveaway prices.

I am sure some workers are already warming up to divert their share for long-term service.

swedbase:


Many of you in the Zoo are suffering from one thing.... Poverty. You people's loyalty lies where they gives you something. Same value system with your leaders and that is one of the many reasons the Zoo will never develop. I will always goes with a man who believes in justice and equity than a man who gives me something.

These people pushed Jonathan ''Your so called Niger-Delta brother'' out of power just to become vice after Obasanjo ruled for 8 years? Where is your sense of reasoning? I am not even sure you 're from Akwa Ibom otherwise you should know that they are benefitting more from you than you have ever benefitted from them

See painment

I am from Akwa Ibom o!
But I have always said that I will follow wherever the Yorubas are going to if Nigeria decides to break up.

I have been a beneficiary of that tribe's kindness and it's something I will never take for granted.

emmanuelewumi:



My parasite is not your parasite, in management 1+1=3 due to synergy.

In a parasitic association

1+1= half or zero.

I can't be the sole provider for her 8 sibblings.

Words on marble.


Bless

Apologies in advance for my meddling, Igboquin.
But don't you think you should also create threads on your products in the food section? The people you want to advertise to mostly stay there.

Here na computer village o!

Apologies in advance for my meddling, Deemond.
But don't you think you should also have a thread on this product in the food section? The people you want to advertise to mostly stay there.

pocohantas:


From her chat with her friend, she was scared. She had the feeling something could go wrong. She told her friend “let me share his contact, in case I loss”. Her friend told her to put on her location and she confirmed it is on.

What kind of interview holds by 4pm in the outskirts of a town? Everything was wrong from the onset.

Poco, there is a book that talks about this type of scenario. It teaches how to pay close attention to your guts and fears as they are nature's alarm system.

The book is titled 'The Gift of Fear' by Gavin de Becker. Please if you can find time to read it, do so. You can also recommend it to your friends, especially women.

Edited to add that it is available as a free PDF on pdfdrive.com

I tried this recipe exactly as it was written.
I almost added onga at the last minute because I believed it was what made my stew sweet. And also because I doubted I would like it. Before onga, my stews used to be apology.
But since I wanted to follow this recipe to the letter, I omitted it as directed.

The result?

I cannot stop eating my stew. Something that I made to last me for one month is almost finishing in two weeks!
I am even planning on getting the nonstick pots so I can properly fry the stew for long, as directed. Couldn't do so with the regular pot because the stew was burning.

I am also considering trying some of the other recipes posted by the op. And this is coming from a slay queen that does not like cooking

Thank you Pocohantas. I am no longer born throway, you have helped me increase my bride price

champeeon:


The verification is something else. I'm tired of turning my head around already. However, how do you link your Payoneer to the app? Do you need to have a Payoneer card?

Yes you need to have payoneer card

champeeon:


Thanks for the information. It's their rate for me. Kuda bank is easy and fast but the rate is just 370-372 there about. I'll try it and see what rate they'll give me.

The rates are also why I am using them. It also helps that transaction is fast and easy. Their verification might be a bit of hassle but for that rate, it is worth it.

Guys, you can use Eversend app to withdraw your money from Payoneer at competitive rates.

Eversend is a Ugandan fintech company. Simply go to play store and download the Eversend app or use this link:
https://eversend.page/7cKe

You will be asked to fill in your details including mode of identification.
During identification, you will have to take a video selfie to verify your account.
Once your account is verified, you can then input your Payoneer card details.
At this point, the app will request permission to withdraw $1 from your Payoneer account. They won't chop your money; it will be in your account.
When this is completed, you can then start to use the app.

My last withdrawal which was early this month was $1 - 455. The exchange rate follows the fluctuations in the market so it is not steady.

Note: I am not a marketer for the company, just a freelancer like you. But if you sign up with the above link, we both get #400. Enough for data

duality:


Very interesting indeed. And she just finished NYSC ooh her one month salary can pay for her rent in an upscale neighborhood.

That's why one has to be careful with what we read on the internet.

Some people never baff but them dey talk about smell.

Are you saying this to someone who is top-rated on Upwork with passive income from Amazon Kindle?
It's a simple secret; earn in dollars and spend in naira.
Don't let poverty becloud your reasoning.

What job?
Make it specific and post your qualifications before someone offers you a housemaid job.

Another reason I love First Bank. They have never told me that.

joyandfaith:

a room or flat?

Room

I love this thread.
#following